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Black Hole (Red Wine Edition) - Mikkeller ApS

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85
very good

176 Ratings
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Ratings: 176
Reviews: 99
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 17.72%
Wants: 9
Gots: 31 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Denmark

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  13.10% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed at De Proefbrouwerij.

(Beer added by: ShogoKawada on 05-26-2010)
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Photo of Urbancaver
3.03/5  rDev -19.8%

7 barrel varieties with the base beer.

Pours a dark dark brown, almost black.

Minimal head.

Smells sweet, and chocolate heavy. smells a touch oaky.
Very cloying on the nose and tongue. Lots of tannins as well. Wow harsh!
Tastes sweet and cloying. Overall way way to sweet and way too tannin heavy.
Mouthfeel is thick and boozy. Overall pretty bad

Urbancaver, Oct 08, 2011
Photo of AgentZero
3.05/5  rDev -19.3%

A - Almost black beer that looked brown in the light and on the edges. Small tan head, not much else.

S - Coffee, Mikkeller char, vinous sweetness, wood, little chocolate, some booze.

T - Oak, wine, roasted malts, char, little sweet fruit, some vinous taste. It's not bad, but it's not great and not worth what I had to pay for the bottle.

M - Medium bodied, lower carbonation.

O - Pretty average, flavors are strong and not so easy to get down. Something I'd pass on in the future due to the price.

AgentZero, Jul 19, 2011
Photo of DaveHS
3.15/5  rDev -16.7%

A-Pours deep black with almost 2 inches of foamy mocha head. Deflates over the course of a minute,leaving behind almost no head.

S-Loads of vanilla,flaked dried coconut and oak. If I didn't know better I'd swear this was the bourbon version. There's a hint of vinous sharpness.

T/M-Sharp tannic bitterness right up front. Whereas some of the other barrel aged versions take the edge off Black Hole's intensely bitter roastiness, but this iteration actually enhances it. The finish is marked by unpleasant, tannic bitterness and strong warming booze. Gets less bitter as it sits, but only to a point. There is an interesting note of musty old red wine playing into this, but I wouldn't call it pleasant, or a flavor that is well integrated.

O-Not a fan. The cognac version is still the best one I've tried to date.

DaveHS, Sep 22, 2011
Photo of kbutler1
3.2/5  rDev -15.3%

Bottle. Pours a really dark brown color with zero head, surprised at that. Coffee, dark chocolate, vanilla, dark fruit, and minimal grape wine type notes. Swirling coats the glass with a dark film. Slightly sweet up front with notes of dark chocolate, coffee, and red wine. Roasted bitterness in the end that lingers on a bit. I wish they didn't roast the grains as much as they did. Medium mouthfeel. Booze shows a little.

kbutler1, Nov 07, 2010
Photo of Mebuzzard
3.23/5  rDev -14.6%

Found a bottle at Vine St. Pub and ordered it. Black pour, what else would I expect? Soapy off white, brown lacing. Thin lacing.

Aroma of vanilla, oak, red plum, leather and cocoa. Nothing spectacular, nothing bad.

Flavors are mingled well with nothing taking command. Red plum back bone. Vanilla and leather dance around. This beer has a nice mix of flavors, but nothing stands out. It's a bit thin or subdued for an RIS. The abv is well hidden and is not difficult to drink. The cocoa/coffee that we come to expect from this category just don't pass mustard.

Slight tannin on the end. While good, not a re-order for the price

Mebuzzard, Jan 28, 2012
Photo of GRG1313
3.25/5  rDev -14%

GRG1313, Oct 26, 2013
Photo of jsanford
3.25/5  rDev -14%

jsanford, Jan 29, 2014
Photo of zestar
3.25/5  rDev -14%

zestar, Aug 02, 2014
Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.28/5  rDev -13.2%

Appearance: Pours the same unapologetically cheerless, black body with a medium-small, mocha-toned head. Let's see where the red wine barrel takes it from here.

Smell: Burnt malted barley, ashen and charry, with a hint of bittersweet chocolate and a boosted fruitiness, assumably from the red wine barrel.

Taste: Moderate sweetness over the roasted malts, still ostensibly harsh, and the bittersweet chocolate taste, still a bit crude. Small hints of vanilla, caramel. A singe of tart, salty red wine. Those malts just remain harsh, chalky, and acrid throughout. Boozy, harsh, sugary finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation.

Overall: I'm not too terribly keen on this one either, no.

ChainGangGuy, Feb 15, 2012
Photo of marvin213
3.4/5  rDev -10.1%

Black like the crayon color, it's definitive blackness. Aptly named, no light's getting thru this beast. The thin layer of froth is dark brown, as you'd probably expect. It's just super black with a dark brown head. Like a black man with pantyhose on his face, it's a little scary.

I smelled a cabernet sauvignon from the bottle, but my pour offers more stouty options: malt, a touch of that vanilla perhaps, and a tad of smoky charred oak, I'm guessing from the barrel. Though cold, I don't sense any honeyish sweetness. The red wine element is still present, but it's more of a table wine now. With everything going on with this beer, its aroma is underwhelming.

I feel thinness before I really taste anything. I like the red wine influence, but the wine seems cheaper and cheaper the more I discover it. Whatever makes a stout "chewy" isn't in here. It's SO thin! The vino might be overbearing, as I detect very little vanilla and coffee's an afterthought. Better than an average beer certainly, but short of its apparent potential.

What's the correct, objective way to measure that thick chewiness--density? I wonder how the density here compares with other big stouts--regular Black Hole even. The thinness makes it easy-to-drink, particularly for a 13+%er, but a $15 handle seems more shipping than sensing.

marvin213, Mar 05, 2011
Photo of nickd717
3.4/5  rDev -10.1%

375ml bottle thanks to chswimmer. Sorry you had to buy this whole mediocre series, Ted. I feel for you.

Pours black in color with a small tan head leaving swirls on the beer.

Aroma is really nice: roast, sharp coffee/espresso, dark fruits, earth, and vinous notes.

Flavor has a lot of alcohol, but a decent imperial stout behind it. Sharp bitter roasty espresso, red wine, sweet chocolate, and a tart earthy finish.

Full and boozy on the palate with some serious heft to it and low carbonation.

Not a great barrel aged imperial stout, but could be a lot worse - stay tuned for my reviews of the other Mikkeller -bal aged Black Holes.

nickd717, Aug 18, 2010
Photo of 7ways
3.43/5  rDev -9.3%

Pours like the original Black Hole, nice but nothing spectacular. Coffee colored head, less than 1 cm after about 15 seconds, with above average retention after that. Sludgy but lasting lace. Smells like unidentifiable semi-sweet red wine, though a wine I would like to drink. Light ashy smoke and charred malt are the biggest aromas for me. I had a mini flashback to the first time I had a Mikkeller Black, only 10 times less pungent. If there's a real coffee presence, I have to use my imagination to say it's really there... the wine and raw alcohol overpower it. But overall, very inviting.

The taste is seriously lacking complexity. There's just not a lot going on besides oak, old coffee, booze, and an intense and slightly overbearing vinous twang. It wants to be fruity, but something overpowers that quality. Drys out my tongue exactly the same way red wine does, which is not totally unpleasant, but overall the combination of tannins from the coffee/wine/wood are a little too much. Hops may be adding to that, but I have a hard time distinguishing hop bitterness from tannic acid in this beer.
Describing the mouthfeel as medium would be generous. It's just barely substantial enough to carry the massive presence this beer brings. OTOH, carbonation is very pleasing.

Drinkability really doesn't mean shit for a 13% beer, does it? I was easily able to drink it in an above average period of time for an above average abv imperial stout.

This is not a bad beer, however... maybe it's just this guy's palate, but why the hell would you want to marry wine and coffee? Not exactly a winning combination. The fact that Mikkeller kind of pulled it off really makes me curious about the whiskey versions.

7ways, Jun 04, 2010
Photo of wyattshotmaker
3.48/5  rDev -7.9%

poured into a tulip, looks great. nice lacing. bought as dark as you can get. vanilla, soft honey, faint coffee, bit of oak. pretty good.

to me this beer really leaves something to be desired. it really lacks that big roasted character from an imperial stout that i come to expect. the flavor is fairly one dimensional. slightly roasted, mostly sweet, touch of vanilla with a slightly tannic finish. flavor comes out a little bit more when i suck some air into my mouth after taking a sip.

mouthfeel is pretty good, thick and viscous without being disgustingly sweet. overall i thought this was a good beer. barrel character didn't come out too much. i dunno, worth a shot i suppose.

wyattshotmaker, Oct 15, 2011
Photo of SPRichard
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%

SPRichard, Dec 27, 2011
Photo of allouez86
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%

allouez86, Dec 23, 2011
Photo of quilty
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%

quilty, Feb 29, 2012
Photo of brewcrew76
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%

A - Deep brown, black with no head.

S - Roasted malt, oak, red wine, vanilla, coffee. Becomes vinous and almost burnt malt/coffee as it warms.

T - Black coffee, bittersweet chocolate, ashy and roasty, almost burnt malt. Red wine in the finish with some red wine acidity. Some vanilla lingers in the aftertaste.

M - On the thin side of medium body with little carbonation. Lingering red wine acidity.

D - A little bit of a mess of flavors. The burnt taste doesn't play well with the red wine acidity but I like the red wine stout combo.

brewcrew76, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of JxExM
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%

JxExM, Jun 21, 2013
Photo of dirtylou
3.55/5  rDev -6.1%

consumed post US-England, 1st in line with the others in the series (rum, scotch, whiskey)

12.7oz bottle purchased at Star

appearance: corked (synthetic), caged and foiled. all 4 barreled versions have a strong appearance - served in snifters - very dark mahogany, creamy chocolate crests with strong retention

smell: extremely strong - heavy roasted malts, potent alcohol, coffee, dark chocolate

taste: this one didn't work out as well as i had hoped, and really the whole series was kind of dissapointing. The wine barrels provide interesting tannic notes, some slight tartness, and a touch of wood. This is a coffee driven stout and it didn't necessarily pair perfectly with the wine barrel. The alcohol is extremely strong which detracts from the enjoyment

mouthfeel: heavy bodied, forcefull alcohol presence

drinkability: average

dirtylou, Jun 13, 2010
Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.55/5  rDev -6.1%

375ml green caged and corked bottle sealed with a plastic cork. Bottle purchased from Star Grocery in Berkeley, CA, a funny little grocery store, with a very small, but exceptionally well selected range of craft beer, particularly from Scandinavia.

Pours rather lighter than expected, a bronze-brown hue that is translucent at the edge, but which traps light at its black heart. Head is a sheen of yellow-beige, like the froth of light sweet crude oil. Exceptionally fine carbonation, when it forms, although the static nature of this beer makes it hard to imagine carbonation forming spontaneously. Looks good.

Intense and crazy nose even from several metres away. Big boozy notes which are tempered by a lovely sweet oaky character giving off coconut, vanilla, and a slight tannic acidity. Dark cocoa comes forward very robustly too, giving chocolate-rich overtones to everything else, which is already dark, sweet and mellow. Just gorgeous; so heady and robust, but so complex and intertwined. Fantastic.

Taste is... disappointing. Certainly particular disappointing over the promise on the nose. Here the depth and the sweetness just fall out as though the beer has a trap door. Big, roasted notes form the basis here, and even then, they're not full, or addressing the entire palate. Rather, we get a boozy entree riddled with an ashy back palate that feels thin and ends bone-dry. No depth, no breadth and certainly no complexity.

How very, very disappointing. To have a beer so fantastically delicious on the nose and so very thin and insipid on the palate. My guess is that Mikkeller was disappointed with this brew as well when they sampled it. I certainly would be.

lacqueredmouse, May 07, 2011
Photo of fastsrt
3.55/5  rDev -6.1%

12.7 ounce bottle in snifter

A: black, small head

S: roasty a bit of sourness

T: I was looking for a bit of wineyness but it was hard to find I was waiting to drink this one as a birthday beer wow what a let down.

M: good

D: at 13 dollars a bottle, this is the first and last time i will buy this one I still have the bourbon black hole and I hope it is better but the bar is now set lower.

fastsrt, Aug 03, 2010
Photo of billab914
3.55/5  rDev -6.1%

Poured from a 375ml bottle into my Dogfish snifter. It poured black in color with a very thin tan lacing for a head.

The aroma has a good dose of sweetness to it, with honey and vanilla leading the way. I get some of the roasty, coffee flavors to it as well. The wine barrel character is light, but adds a bit of a red wine flavor to it.

The taste starts off with the sweeter flavors of the honey and vanilla. Midway I start to get more of the roasty coffee and dark roasted malts. The honey sweetness and coffee roastedness really seem to compete with each other. In the finish I get a good amount of tannins coming through in the wine barrel character.

The mouthfeel is on the heavier side with carbonation being low. Drinkability is decent, it had a lot of flavor to it but I don't think everything integrated all that well. The wine barrel flavors were interesting, and probably one of the better barrel treatments of black hole I've had. Not a bad beer overall, but not one of my favorite barrel aged beers.

billab914, Mar 12, 2011
Photo of mdfb79
3.58/5  rDev -5.3%

Had at a small tasting thanks to nimbleprop; thanks Mac.

a - Pours a dark brown color with one inch of tan head and light carbonation evident.

s - Smells of oak, roasted malts, alcohol, and roasted malts.

t - Tastes of oak, wine, roasted malts, dark fruit, and alcohol.

m - Medium body and low carbonation.

d - A decent version of black hole but the wine barrels didn't really add anything for me. Would try again.

mdfb79, Aug 07, 2010
Photo of thetomG
3.58/5  rDev -5.3%

Pours a very nice deep dark brown with just a slight amount of foamy head.

Aroma is malty with some strong notes of alcohol coming through with just a hint of red wine.

Taste is primarily STRONG booze with some bitterness from the hops but the alcohol burn is a bit overpowering with just a shadow of the other elements you smell. it's good, but the booze is a bit overpowering.

Its good and I'm glad I tried it, but I don't think I'll be seeking this one out again... just not my ideal flavors.

thetomG, Jun 13, 2010
Photo of ShogoKawada
3.58/5  rDev -5.3%

12.7oz Black Hole- Wine Barrel edition. Into chouffe tulip.

A- Deep brown, almost black, and some ruby highlights. I wonder if there was a good amount of wine in the barrels? Hmm. Head is very impressive, 3-fingers, dense, coffee ice cream in color.

S- Smoky, roasty. Some hodgepodge of spices that I can't pick out and of course the wine influence. I don't know anything about wine but it's a nice red, I'd guess.

T- The base black hole is a great beer... pretty tasty. Bitter chocolate, coffee and a hint of clove. Nice fruity sweetness and a mild tartness from the wine- Kinda mishmashed.

M- Very good. the flavors blend easily and the heavy RIS flavors pair well with the fruity tartness that the wine barrels provide. Great mouthfeel and good carbonation.

D- Moderate. A slow sipper, I liked this one a lot more than the rum barrel black hole. Still not the all-star I was hoping for, but good stuff. Again I think some time might do this one some favors to round it out. Worth seeking out.

ShogoKawada, May 26, 2010
Black Hole (Red Wine Edition) from Mikkeller ApS
85 out of 100 based on 176 ratings.