Makeweight - Furthermore Beer
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3.9/5 rDev +2.6%
Belgian IPA - I do not know, howoever the facts I do have: I bought this at Riley's in Madison based on recommendations by staff. I had no idea what I was drinking when I opened it, it smelled like a yeasty Belgian, and tasting akin to an old ale/American strong. Dark brown body with tremendous spider lacing. Very smooth, understated hops and great malting. I should have bought more bottles!
09-16-2011 03:47:14 | More by Sammy
3.45/5 rDev -9.2%
Bottle courtesy of BeerFMAndy. Served in a Russian River TION goblet.
Pours a cloudy dark copper color with a small white head that quickly fades into a thin collar and leaves only a spot or two of lacing behind. The nose brings forward some light caramel malt plus a bit of pepper and earth. Mild floral character and a bit of extra spice. The flavor really adds in the Belgian yeast factor, though there is little in the way of hops. Some floral and herbal hops, though they are not prominent. Bready malt in the background. Medium body and a finish that is heavy on the booze. Not a bad take on the style, but needs more hops and the alcohol has to mellow out a bit.
05-16-2011 23:40:21 | More by Thorpe429
3.95/5 rDev +3.9%
Dark pumpkin orange sporting an impressive blizzard of fine yeast. There may be rust red in there as well. In any case, it's a wonderful hue. The ecru colored crown is on the small side and looks far more American than Belgian. Makes sense.
Furthermore describes Makeweight as a triple pale ale, by which they mean a combination Belgian-English-American pale ale (boozed up with candi sugar) rather than a tripel. I don't know that Belgian IPA is an appropriate style choice because the beer doesn't smell very hoppy. In fact, other than light caramel malt and spicy Belgian yeast, there isn't much to smell at all.
I decided to forego reviewing a 6 month old bottle and waited until I could get my hands on a super-fresh sample, which happened on a recent trip to Madtown. Yeah, this is pretty good beer, but it really needs a flavor focus. For my money, it isn't the equal of Fatty Boombalatty.
I'm not sure what getting three countries involved really accomplished. The malt is from Belgium and England. The hops are from England (Kent Goldings) and America. And the yeast is from Belgium, England and America. The malt tastes significantly toasted bready, earthy, woody and nutty, reminding me of a strong Belgian amber ale... or even a Belgian bock.
The hops are still going strong with respect to bitterness, though there isn't a huge amount of good hop flavor. As is the case with most good Belgian (and Belgian-style) ales, estery yeast dominates the flavor profile. This one is especially zesty, almost peppery. In the end, the beer is good, but doesn't sniff great.
The highlight of this whole shootin' match is a mouthfeel that is more full (and equally as creamy) as the best big Belgians. I could go for another bottle right now just for the pure pleasure of feeling it slide over my tongue and down my gullet.
Makeweight (noun): 1. a weight added to the scale to reach a required weight. 2. anything added to fill out a whole. Furthermore filled a hole in their lineup with this intriguing Belgian-style brew, but it falls short of their best. Having said that, I'd be happy to drink it again. And probably will.
03-14-2009 15:05:14 | More by BuckeyeNation
4/5 rDev +5.3%
Grabbed this one as an extra recently, needless to say I was thrilled to get such a nice extra! Twelve ounce bottle served at cellar temp and poured into a snifter. Consumed on 08/11/2008.
Poured a very dark brown, very hazy with some light reddish highlights on the side. Nice head about one inch high faded quickly but left behind some nice side glass lace a good amount of broken crown.
The aroma was mixed, started out almost like a triple, with that deep yeast like grain aroma, mixed with some fruits and a light touch of alcohol. As it warmed a little, lots of light hoppy notes started to filter through. Hints of light citrus with touches of fruit The flavor was more of the same, except in reverse. It started with some nice light hop notes, hints of lemon and tangerine. Some nice bready malts in the middle and a nice overall profile. Medium body was slightly chewey at times, but still very solid with good carbonation throughout. No real sense of the alcohol here at all, as this was remarkably refreshing.
Overall I thought this was a very solid beer. Not sure quite what the style was, but very solid all around. I would have no issue in trying this one again anytime, really a solid beer all arounnd.
08-15-2008 00:55:17 | More by mikesgroove
2.95/5 rDev -22.4%
This brew poured out as an interesting copperish amber color, the head vanished quick. The lacing is non-existent. The smell is of Belgian yeast, and some floral hops going on. The taste to me seemed a little strange, not sure if the blend of things going on here really goes that well together. The mouthfeel Is bubbly and leaves a bite on tongue. It's really wasn't that great to me, I'd probably pass on this one in the future.
05-31-2011 00:53:06 | More by Knapp85
3.98/5 rDev +4.7%
Poured this into a fluted Bokrijk tulip, and it produced a rising cylinder of tan foam that worked it's way above the rim, forming a convex bow. The fluffy cap stayed in place long enough to be impressive. Color was a deep crimson, with slow upward carbonation. Hazy suspended sediment in the glass, but nothing residual in the bottle. Patches of lace hang around the glass.
Mild nose of toffee and light apple. Some Belgian character from the yeast.
Caramel and apple flavors, with moderate carbonation that is welcome. It was a little fizzy at first but has mellowed after sitting a few minutes. Mildly bitter hops are detected in the background, but understated. Lightly spicy phenols suggest a higher alcohol content. Notion of tea or berry linger in the background too, more of a dried cherry. The fruit and spice character reminds me most of a Dubbel. Glad I tried the single, might look for it on tap when in Wisconsin.
Thanks to malcontent for snagging this in WI...
03-04-2008 00:39:02 | More by emerge077
3.98/5 rDev +4.7%
A - Poured out a dirty brown color that was very cloudy. It had a small, thin, tan head that left little lace.
S - It smelled floral, grassy, and somewhat malty.
T - It tasted very malty, spicy and earthy. There was some citrus and a slight funkiness to it.
M - It was smooth and crisp with a dry finish. A medium-bodied beer.
D - This was a pretty good beer. It didn't really seem like a Belgian IPA, but it still was good.
12-31-2008 19:57:15 | More by zeff80
4.2/5 rDev +10.5%
Furthermore MAKEWEIGHT -
"A SINGLE BATCH CONFLAGRATION OF ENGLISH-, AMERICAN- AND BELGIAN-STYLE PALE ALES".
It's an interesting concept, but how well do the styles all work out in the mix?
The Belgian component is the most obvious, being yeast, and its clove character is quite obvious in the nose. Its phenols carry through into the flavor as well, and there's a bit of 'burnt-plastic' and spiciness to it as well.
The English component, to me, is the second most obvious. The body is a hazy deep amber with golden highlights beneath a creamy head of off-white that leaves short but solid walls of lace around the glass. Clearly there's a little bit of caramel malt in there, which would make it more English than American - but not necessarily more Belgian than American. Regardless of how you resolve (or not resolve) that, the malt's a bit caramelish and bready. But I also find what I'd consider to be English hops in here... floral, slightly leafy, and a touch grassy - and even a bit slightly mettalic or mineralish. I'm thinking East Kent Goldings and Fuggles.
What about the American side? I'm guessing there are some American hops to it, but I think they're over-ridden by the Belgian yeast. I did find some fruitiness (fresh cut red delicious apple, pear, cherry, red berry, and perhaps a hint of pineapple and citrus), and that could be coming from some Amarillo or another hop (...or from the Belgian yeast... ?), but I don't clearly find them. So, noting that the yeast component is clearly not American, and the malt component is clearly not American, and the hops don't appear to be distinctly American - I think the U.S. has been short-changed! Even the bitterness level seems a touch low to be American.
But let's go back to the malt. It's English in nature, but there's far more going on than that. It's too heavy to be English pale - perhaps an old ale or a barleywine, but not a pale ale. And it's too sugary as well. That leaves us with just some English hops in an otherwise Belgian-style pale ale. But even that doesn't seem to fit. It's just too big and malty. The name is appropriate (Makeweight), because it's a weighty beer.
So what is it? Ahhh, it's Belgian, who cares? Belgians don't really categorize their beers like we do (or at least they didn't until recently). "Belgian IPA" works for me. But what about the beer? Despite its kind of odd-ball premise of throwing together three different recipes, it somehow works. It's rich and spicy, and sweet and phenolic, and hoppy and mineralish. The alcohol is present, but it never really steps forward. There's enough bitterness to balance it, and it finishes dry with some residual yeast spiciness and dull phenols.
Overall, it's worthy endeavor.
05-02-2011 13:39:47 | More by NeroFiddled
3.83/5 rDev +0.8%
It doesn't really matter so much to me anymore, but I feel compelled to comment about it this time: the color of this one is what I consider unusual for the style. Perfectly clear and nearly brown. Nose is the typical Belgian tone with some spice from hops to it. Flavor is along those same lines: standard Belgian fare. An minimal Earthy tone gives way to a spicy and slightly hot character that stays constant. Mild tang. This is a good Belgian ale. No severe complexity, but there is an excellent and consistent delivery of flavor.
08-15-2012 08:50:22 | More by RblWthACoz
3.3/5 rDev -13.2%
Appearance light bronze tea colored body with a light khaki head forms thick with fine speckled evenly coated lacing on the sides of my Allagash chalice. Aroma has some citrus peel notes with solid earthy hops as well with some mineral water and fruit undertones present from the caramel malt profile. The label says it's a mix of English, American, and Belgian pale. Flavor has a deep rich sweetness bringing about mildly spice raisin bread tones, orange peel, with a touch of yeast funk. The spice or citrus peel really holds down the flavor and a bit of residual sugars and alcohol bring out a very harsh finish. Mouthfeel has moderate carbonation levels a bit heavy at times, body is medium bodied there are some resins tea leaf bitterness left on the palate with a bit of residuals from fermentation making it a bit cloying. Drinkability overall it's just not my cup of tea, I don't think the fusion of three types of pale ale produces a new style that is better than any of it's parts. So is it innovative? Maybe, but is it a better creation overall...absolutely not.
03-06-2010 17:56:30 | More by WVbeergeek
3.93/5 rDev +3.4%
Got this from imperialking, cheers Jeff!
Pours a rich amber/copper with 1 finger+ of tan head. Zero head retention & lacing, nice oily sheen to this
S: Apple peels, mushrooms & general orchard fruit
T: Apple peels, pears & a bit of white grape up front, plus lemon & grapefruit hops. Fruitttyness asserts itself as this warms with plenty of herbal & citric hops lurking in the background. Fruittyness with a touch of brown sugar & caramel in the finish, plus some more citric hops
MF: Fairly chewy with low carbonation & nice balance
A bit too rich to session on, but an interesting slant on the style, skews American West coast IMO. Hides the ABV well, this makes want to try more from these guys!
11-12-2009 04:16:04 | More by russpowell
4.3/5 rDev +13.2%
Clear and crimson, slim off-white head.
Bright, fruity, hoppy aroma. A cornucopia inside, citrus, apple, melon, tropical fruits. Lovely.
In the taste, the hops are high again, but matched well with sweet caramel malt. Almost too sweet, I could go for more hop taste.
"An ecumenical mash-up." Hmmm. "A single-batchconflagration of English-, American-, and Belgian style pales." Okay, I get it now. Belgian yeast, English malt, American hops. Or the other way around.
Tasty stuff. Excellent blending. I could go for a few of these! Nice work, furthermore!
12-05-2008 00:38:44 | More by feloniousmonk
3.65/5 rDev -3.9%
thanks to tenderbranson69 for sharing this -poured chilled in a tulip pint
A - a lightly hazed medium brown - caramel color/tea like color w/ rocky light cream which clings like ribbons of lace. The bead is fine and so is retention
S - A smell of sweet malt and candy sugar is pretty prominent with light toasted malt and mild yeast ester. There is a minimal amount of hops and spice in the nose
M - the feel is creamy up front w/ sweetness in moderate range w/ mild carbonation and moderately full body w/ subtle spice making the sweetness come into balance in the middle w/ dry malty finish
T - The flavor has a caramel malt and light candy sugar taste w/ smooth yeast backing it and hop spice restrained yet there in the taste w/ mild fruitiness and gentle vanilla notes from malt and sugar continuing form mid to finish w/ mild creaminess in the flavor
D - The drinkablity is pretty good for this beer, not exactly sure what to expect given the description, but for what it is it isn't bad at all. I could probably handle having a few over time -like a dubbel with more hops and toasty malt. Not something to go out of your way for but worth trying for sure
04-21-2010 16:42:15 | More by Slatetank
4.1/5 rDev +7.9%
Really rich and tangy concoction. I like the mix of flavors and hops. It works out to a malty brew with a nice dose of hops. Beautiful golden amber in the glass. Sudsy with a fine carbonation.
There is a resiny flavor that lurks around the edges of the flowery hops. The complexity and weight of the malt is what makes this so good. Well balanced with a serious amount of hops, but restrained biterness. Excellent mouthfeel with the tangy suds and an aromatic burst in every sip. To my taste, it's what an IPA should be.
From the 12 oz bottle purchased at Food and Friends in Philadelphia.
05-25-2012 02:49:33 | More by mactrail
3.85/5 rDev +1.3%
Thanks to morimech!
Pours deep copper. A thin white head leaves some lacing.
The smell is of caramel with herbal notes. It has some citrus and tropical fruits mixed in. Interesting nose.
The taste is of caramel with citrus and herbal/peppery spicing. The spicing becomes more tea-like as it progresses. It proclaims to be, on the label, a mix of American, English and Belgian ... each is noticeable... yet, it comes together well under the caramel character. Sweetness blends with some sour and bitter in the finish.
It has ample carbonation, but not prickly. Medium-bodied.
The alcohol is well-covered. It's a unique brew, for sure. It does have American, English and Belgian attributes, as stated. Odd, but nice!
02-24-2010 03:22:50 | More by jwc215
3.73/5 rDev -1.8%
Appears a hazy, dark brown with ruby highlights when held up to the light. Spotty bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is of caramel, herbal hops, citrusy orange, and a touch of pine. A touch of biscuit and sugary dough.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas with an herbal zing that sips across the palate with a tiny margin of ripe fruit and bread poking it's head out.
Mouthfeel is full bodied, zingy, highly carbonated, and a tad refreshing with the citrus-like hops pulling through.
03-12-2010 01:21:40 | More by weeare138
3.65/5 rDev -3.9%
Leave it to us Americans to inspire a new style and to Aran Madden, a Pittsburgh guy, to bring us one iteration of it.
From the label: "An Ecumenical Mash-Up"; "A Single-Batch Conflagration of English, American and Belgian-Style Pales".
My pour resulted in two fingers' worth of tawny head with good retention. Color was an oh-so-slightly hazy deep amber. Nose was a riot of grassy hops, yeasty mustiness, and caramel malts. Yoi! Mouthfeel was medium with an intial sweetness, like a mixture of honey and carmel, then followed by a very yeasty mustiness, finishing with just a kiss of the hops. Sorry, Schlitz. Finish was almost mead-like with its dry honey flavor that lingered well after the swallow. Wild, but just one at a time, thank you very much.
04-22-2011 22:43:59 | More by woodychandler
4/5 rDev +5.3%
On-tap at Stub and Herb's next to the U of M. Appeared a dark amber with a short off-white head, no lacing. I don't get a lot of hops out of this beer, but it's still a very fine Belgian pale ale. The around has bubblegum and mild clove phenols that follow up in the flavor along with spicy herb, grapefruit and citrus rind hops. It's deceptively drinkable, and at the $3.50 happy hour price, I could get myself in trouble all too easily. It's moderately bitter, and certainly bitter for a Belgian ale, but no stronger than your average American pale ale. Still, it's delicious and worth a try.
12-24-2008 05:38:36 | More by tempest
3.98/5 rDev +4.7%
A 12 oz bottle courtesy of JAYW.
A: The ale is darker than most Belgian IPAs that I've seen. The label calls it a hybrid of the Belgian, English and American pale ale styles, so it seems that the darker, fuller English malts are at play here. The color is dark amber, a rich brown-red meld. A finger or so of head has laced in spots around the glass.
S: The nose has a solid malt backbone, caramel and touches of toffee. The Belgian aspect is dark candi sugar with lots of equally dark fruits.
T: As I ruminate on the beer, the Belgian influences strike me as yeast and sugar. The mouth has the full, happening taste of dark alefruits, raisins et al, and tart green apple. The caramel malts aren't nearly as pronounced as in the nose. Dark candi sugars further push the BSDA aspect. The American contribution, I surmise, is hoppiness. Unfortunately that element never really stands out. This is no Hop-It but I like that it veers far off of the path.
M: The mouthfeel is complex, packing the flavor of a Belgian dark ale and an English pale ale together.
D: The 8.5% is a little high but one bottle to sip over several hours will do you good.
05-11-2008 19:09:42 | More by akorsak
4.38/5 rDev +15.3%
Pours a hazy dark amber, darker than I was expecting. A blend of three beers apparantly, the yeast interaction perhaps making it a few shades darker? Nevertheless, a nice looking beer. Fruity in the nose, some floral hops and belgian yeast fruityness. The flavor of this beer caught me off guard. Lots of belgian flavor, candied date and fig right off the back, dark fruits and light earthy hop bitterness. Pretty damn tasty. Medium bodied feel, smooth and creamy. Overall a very impressive beer from Furthermore.
03-16-2011 19:15:15 | More by Stinkypuss
4.35/5 rDev +14.5%
Hazy scarlet red. Thin beige head. Bubbly collar. Stringy and sticky lace. Aroma is a mix of belgian like candy sweetness with some citric and piney hoppiness. It's a good aroma. Flavor smacks you in the face with bold flavors of Belgian yeast spice and esters and piney hops and slight alcohol. Malt base is that of warm biscuity bread tones. This is a great tasting beer. Probably my favorite from Furthermore so far. Full bodied and lightly carbonated. Alcohol is present, but not significantly so.
03-16-2009 03:49:29 | More by Bighuge
4.18/5 rDev +10%
12oz single, riley's
always excited for a new furthermore release, consumed during giants-packers q2
appearance: poured into a bells tulip glass, dark garnet body, shines in the light of the tv and candles, nice beige froth head with decent lacing
smell: aromas favor the belgian side of this belgian/american/uk hybrid, yeasty and candy sugar, crisp floral hops, smooth malts and alcohol noticed
taste: served this up at a warmer temp on the advice of Cokes' review...not sure what to make of this interesting concept beer. there is a whole lot of complexity in this beer that really defies any classification...its big and boozy - the alcohol smacked me right in the face...belgian characteristics drive the flavor profile - brown candy sugar, lots of belgian sweetness, floral hops, smooth malt. A very nice beer from furthermore who continues to earn high marks in my book
mouthfeel: smooth and full bodied, strong alcohol
01-21-2008 01:11:07 | More by dirtylou
Makeweight from Furthermore Beer
85 out of 100 based on 131 ratings.