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Makeweight - Furthermore Beer

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very good

134 Ratings
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Ratings: 134
Reviews: 96
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 13.39%
Wants: 14
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Furthermore Beer visit their website
Wisconsin, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian IPA |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Golden2wenty1 on 01-11-2008)
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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.95/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Dark pumpkin orange sporting an impressive blizzard of fine yeast. There may be rust red in there as well. In any case, it's a wonderful hue. The ecru colored crown is on the small side and looks far more American than Belgian. Makes sense.

Furthermore describes Makeweight as a triple pale ale, by which they mean a combination Belgian-English-American pale ale (boozed up with candi sugar) rather than a tripel. I don't know that Belgian IPA is an appropriate style choice because the beer doesn't smell very hoppy. In fact, other than light caramel malt and spicy Belgian yeast, there isn't much to smell at all.

I decided to forego reviewing a 6 month old bottle and waited until I could get my hands on a super-fresh sample, which happened on a recent trip to Madtown. Yeah, this is pretty good beer, but it really needs a flavor focus. For my money, it isn't the equal of Fatty Boombalatty.

I'm not sure what getting three countries involved really accomplished. The malt is from Belgium and England. The hops are from England (Kent Goldings) and America. And the yeast is from Belgium, England and America. The malt tastes significantly toasted bready, earthy, woody and nutty, reminding me of a strong Belgian amber ale... or even a Belgian bock.

The hops are still going strong with respect to bitterness, though there isn't a huge amount of good hop flavor. As is the case with most good Belgian (and Belgian-style) ales, estery yeast dominates the flavor profile. This one is especially zesty, almost peppery. In the end, the beer is good, but doesn't sniff great.

The highlight of this whole shootin' match is a mouthfeel that is more full (and equally as creamy) as the best big Belgians. I could go for another bottle right now just for the pure pleasure of feeling it slide over my tongue and down my gullet.

Makeweight (noun): 1. a weight added to the scale to reach a required weight. 2. anything added to fill out a whole. Furthermore filled a hole in their lineup with this intriguing Belgian-style brew, but it falls short of their best. Having said that, I'd be happy to drink it again. And probably will.

BuckeyeNation, Mar 14, 2009
Photo of KeefD
4.35/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a nice amber color with a tan head that leaves behind some very generous lacing and had a lasting cap. Aroma is loaded with American hops, English caramel malts, and Belgian yeast. Very nice, but I was expecting more hop aroma. It's mostly sweet and fruity smelling. Taste is very good! Plenty of caramel malts are in play, some notes of apple and other ripe fruits, and then a nice biting bitterness on the finish. It's sweet, but not cloyingly so and it's very well balanced between the hops and malt. Medium body, low carbonation. I'm thinking this is an older bottle and the hops have faded a bit, but it's still delicious, nonetheless. I can't believe this actually clocks in at 8.5% because the alcohol is completely hidden and drinks like a sessionable pale ale rather than high ABV IPA. Very good, definitely Furthermore's best!

KeefD, Mar 11, 2009
Photo of mjryan
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep ruby colour with lots of sediment, I poured carefully but must have shook it a bit pulling it out of the fridge. Nice head with good retention. Minimal lace. Aroma is of toffee and slight bannana. When fresh, their is a defenite citrus hop character in the aroma as well. The bottle I drank last night had pretty much lost its up front hoppiness. Flavour is of toffee with a bit of a roasted edge. A little sweet at first but finishes with an assertive bitterness. Medium bodied and smooth on the palate. I cant believe this beer is 8.5% ABV as I tasted only the slightest alcohol presence. Fresh this beer is very hoppy, but it aged well. The slight roasted and toffee character of the malts steped in to where the hops were. A fun beer and something Id recommend to anyone who appreciates unique beer.

mjryan, Feb 18, 2009
Photo of CHSLBrew
3.05/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a pint glass.

A-Light red-copper beer, relatively clear. Tan head rises small off the pour, retained mildly.

S-Spice, mild and sweet bready malts, and a little bit of chocolate crisp. Slightly yeasty with a bit of hoppiness.

T-A hodge-podge of spicy Belgian yeast characters, hop character is spicy with some slight citrus and resiny characters. Some other spiciness in there melds with a big bitterness and some toasty malts. A little warm on the aftertaste, with bright sticky hops and bready malt.

M-Moderate small-bubbled carbonation, feels fluffy. Medium-bodied brew, but still felt heavy, in a way.

D-OK. Interesting to try this time, though I don't think it's a brew I'd want to pursue in the future. Of course, I wouldn't turn one down :D

CHSLBrew, Feb 12, 2009
Photo of darklordlager
4.13/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a chalice a ruby amber colour with a 1" head that recedes to nothing after less than a minute. With a light swirl, a head is easily roused.

Smell is a sweet maltiness up front, fading into a pleasant hoppiness. Lingers with a biscuity taste. Carmelly, a hint of rye, with a bit of brown sugar.

Mouthfeel is medium to heavy.

Drinkability is a bit limited due to the huge flavours (and alcohol).

darklordlager, Feb 09, 2009
Photo of solargoat
4.45/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured this beauty into a chalice.

A- Dark red, cloudy. Nice head that dissolved into a thin rim all the way through.

S- A lot of aroma going on, wheat, vanilla and what I think is a earthy yeast.

It tastes extraordinary, Sweet at first finishes dry, Spiced like a belgian
I like it in my mouth and I would like it too stay in my mouth for all time. I could drink this one all night, and not regret it.

solargoat, Feb 01, 2009
Photo of br3wmeister
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A- one inch light tan head with good retention and minimal lacing. The color of the beer is deep orange almost red. Reminds me much of Autumn leaves.

S- Initially very sweet with caramel, toffee, brown sugar and roasted almonds. There is also a lot of piny and citrusy hops in the nose with hints of spicy earthy yeast.

T- Chocolate and caramel up front then some roasted nuts and and piny hops. The hops take over the palate in the end and stick with you. Very good balance all the flavors blend together nicely. It almost taste like a heavily hopped brown ale.

M- smooth medium bodied beer with good carbonation with a hoppy and alcohol bite in the end.

Overall- This is an interesting beer that I would recommend trying though it might not be everyones favorite.

br3wmeister, Jan 28, 2009
Photo of zeff80
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a dirty brown color that was very cloudy. It had a small, thin, tan head that left little lace.

S - It smelled floral, grassy, and somewhat malty.

T - It tasted very malty, spicy and earthy. There was some citrus and a slight funkiness to it.

M - It was smooth and crisp with a dry finish. A medium-bodied beer.

D - This was a pretty good beer. It didn't really seem like a Belgian IPA, but it still was good.

zeff80, Dec 31, 2008
Photo of dancinwillie
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy dark amber. Small beige head is quick in it's retreat. Ruby highlights. Looks, and pours quite heavy.

Aroma is mostly yeast, the Belgian third of the brew. A bit of bready malt sweetness as well. I'm picking up a bit of citrus hop aroma as well.

Citrus hops mingle with fruity Belgium yeast flavors wonderfully! This is a new style to me, and a I've picked a very good ambassador in Make Weight. Malt is present, however restrained, and a bit bready, with some good sweetness to balance out the bitter hops, and tart fruit yeast. This is a tasty brew, and the flavor makes good on the aroma's promise.

Mouthfeel is thick and heavy, but somehow, doesn't seem out of place. Low carbonation, maybe too low, is the only thing stopping this from being a 5 category.

Overall, this is a fantastic beer. No alcohol comes through, and delicious, and sessionable to a certain degree. As soon as I'm done reviewing this, I'll be having mine with some homemade gumbo, which I made with homemade chicken stock, chicken, andouille sausage, and shrimp. I'm hoping they will go together well.

dancinwillie, Dec 31, 2008
Photo of tempest
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Stub and Herb's next to the U of M. Appeared a dark amber with a short off-white head, no lacing. I don't get a lot of hops out of this beer, but it's still a very fine Belgian pale ale. The around has bubblegum and mild clove phenols that follow up in the flavor along with spicy herb, grapefruit and citrus rind hops. It's deceptively drinkable, and at the $3.50 happy hour price, I could get myself in trouble all too easily. It's moderately bitter, and certainly bitter for a Belgian ale, but no stronger than your average American pale ale. Still, it's delicious and worth a try.

tempest, Dec 24, 2008
Photo of morimech
4.1/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark, clear copper with a small head even after an aggresive pour. The head quickly settles to a thin ring of suds. Minimal lacing is left on the glass. Darker version of the style but it lacks the visual attractiveness of Belgian versions.

Has a sweet aroma of caramel malt and candied sugar. Some hints of dark fruit. Hops add a citrus aroma of oranges and grapefruit. A little alcohol is picked up as well.

Hops really make an appearance in the taste. Citrus flavors are first and foremost. Belgian in the sweetness and boozy characteristics. American in the hop profile. Even the caramel malt adds a nice flavor.

Nothing spectacular about the mouthfeel. Feels heavier than it should and the carbonation does nothing to influence the score.

Earlier in the day I asked what would happen if darker malts where used in this style. I think it works. Maybe not perfectly executed in this beer but I think it is something others should use for inspiration. And why does this style require the ABV to be so high? This beer would of been just as good, if not better, at 5-7% ABV.

morimech, Dec 21, 2008
Photo of brewbucker
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one pours a dark very clean copper and has a medium off white head. Aroma is sweet hops and malts, light spice. The flavor has a wonderful spiciness to it. Mildly bitter hops, peat, and sweet malts. Also hints of pepper. Lots going on with this beer. As it warms now I am getting a bananna aroma. Mouthfeel is mildly silky. Overall I am quit impressed with this one.

brewbucker, Dec 18, 2008
Photo of JoeyBeerBelly
4.22/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I got this beer in a trade with josephhaugen, Thanks Joe!

12oz bottle served in a pilsner glass.

L - hazed amber color with a small beige head that left some bits of lacing. carbonation bubbles were constant.

S - sweet, yeasty smell, some apple/pear aroma as well.

T - sweet and somewhat fruity taste upfront with a light bittering mixed in finishing sweet and dry.

F - medium bodied with good carbonation.

D - goes down too easy for 8.5% abv.

JoeyBeerBelly, Dec 10, 2008
Photo of eyncognito
4.22/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle served into pint glass.

Amber color with reddish/golden highlights, hazy with a thin white head. Plenty of sticky lacing. Nose is quite inviting, citric, piney hops, with sweet, sugary malts. I can smell some fruity Belgian yeast. Delish.

Some citrusy hops: oranges, tangerines with a hint of pine resin. The English/Belgian malts work well, candied sugar and spices (clove?) are present without dominating the smooth caramel backbone. Not too sweet, thankfully.

Relatively light to medium bodied, easy drinking despite higher abv. A truly interesting and satisfying mash-up of a beer. Somewhat like jazz riffs, varying on a theme. The American, English, and Belgian riffs all get their time, without dominating the beer. Furthermore sure knows how to invent some note-worthy beers.

eyncognito, Dec 08, 2008
Photo of mynie
4.35/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a regular pint glass. Whoops. Still, I can tell that it would look mighty fine in a chalice. Looks mighty fine in a glass, actually. Deep, dark haziness with a head that's like heat vision.

Smells of rich, intense beligan malt. I know there are other malts in there but they just ain't coming through. (Or wait, they do. When it gets a little warm you really pick up the British Pale malts, and then when it gets a little warmer still you pick up the American ones. They blend together wonderfully.) The yeast is lightly alcoholic and spicy and the hops.

Okay, the website says this is a Flanders yeast that should be the main attraction right here but I'm picking up none of that. Tastes a lot like the Chimay strain, believe it or not. The hops are fairly big and very British, but the real star of the show is the divine combination of malt profiles. Those APA nodes that I picked up in the nose were just imagined, I think, because all I'm getting is a mind bogglingly complicated-yet-mellow balance of a BPA and an EPA. West coast American hops finish things off, along with a good dose of that sugary Belgian aftertaste that a lot of American brewers take too far but Furthermore has gotten just right.


mynie, Dec 05, 2008
Photo of feloniousmonk
4.3/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear and crimson, slim off-white head.

Bright, fruity, hoppy aroma. A cornucopia inside, citrus, apple, melon, tropical fruits. Lovely.

In the taste, the hops are high again, but matched well with sweet caramel malt. Almost too sweet, I could go for more hop taste.

"An ecumenical mash-up." Hmmm. "A single-batchconflagration of English-, American-, and Belgian style pales." Okay, I get it now. Belgian yeast, English malt, American hops. Or the other way around.

Tasty stuff. Excellent blending. I could go for a few of these! Nice work, furthermore!

feloniousmonk, Dec 05, 2008
Photo of wheatyweiss
4.28/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a medium amber with a slight cloud and a thin head that recedes quickly to a cap (glass).

Aroma is of sweet candy sugar. Cotton candy and candied hops. Really does smell like they took some hops and candy coated them.

Taste up front is sweet candy sugar and roasted grain, then the hops come in. Hops are strong but not overpowering. Small amount of banana and clove that hint at weiss yeast. The grain is strong enough to keep up with the hops. Almost perfect balance. The best things about a Belgian and a DIPA all in one.

Nice thick mouthfeel with a good livey carbonation to keep up.

Balance is the trump card here. Balance on flavor and mouthfeel.

Excellent offering.

wheatyweiss, Nov 30, 2008
Photo of DefenCorps
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got a 12ozer in a recent trade with the awesome Scoobydank. Thanks, Bill! Furthermore's beers have always piqued my palate and I can't wait to try this, despite it not being a style I enjoy much. Into my Duvel tulip

A: Pours crimson with brilliant clarity and a thin tan head that recedes to a ring rather quickly. The color and clarity are just plain awesome, though.

S: A very pleasing amalgamation of floral hops, Belgian candy sweetness and yeast. Up front are the hops, light and delicate with floral and pine notes. The Belgian yeast character shines through with a mild spicy note (clove) and some sweetness. Solid

T: Opens up with a citrus hop note with a good deal of tangerine juicy character. This is followed by a spicy and herbal note with a hint of clove and some mint before yeasty flavors take over on the finish, leaving the palate rather dry with notes of bubblegum and sugar

M: Light in body with a nice finish and moderate carbonation

D: For the style, this is pretty solid. Not a session beer but one that I've enjoyed

DefenCorps, Nov 24, 2008
Photo of madtowndmb1
3.08/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Poured a murky brown with a nice little head that stuck around for a bit.

S: I got malty sweetness with a some fruity, hoppy flavors in there.

T: Right up front I tasted malt with some fruit with a decent hop flavor that lingered on the back of my tongue.

M: It was just OK for me, didn't coat my tongue or leave me wanting another drink. Just didn't draw me in.

D: I wouldn't want more than one in a sitting, but it will be a decent beer to revisit every once in a while to see if it grows on me.

madtowndmb1, Nov 17, 2008
Photo of mikesgroove
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Grabbed this one as an extra recently, needless to say I was thrilled to get such a nice extra! Twelve ounce bottle served at cellar temp and poured into a snifter. Consumed on 08/11/2008.

Poured a very dark brown, very hazy with some light reddish highlights on the side. Nice head about one inch high faded quickly but left behind some nice side glass lace a good amount of broken crown.

The aroma was mixed, started out almost like a triple, with that deep yeast like grain aroma, mixed with some fruits and a light touch of alcohol. As it warmed a little, lots of light hoppy notes started to filter through. Hints of light citrus with touches of fruit The flavor was more of the same, except in reverse. It started with some nice light hop notes, hints of lemon and tangerine. Some nice bready malts in the middle and a nice overall profile. Medium body was slightly chewey at times, but still very solid with good carbonation throughout. No real sense of the alcohol here at all, as this was remarkably refreshing.

Overall I thought this was a very solid beer. Not sure quite what the style was, but very solid all around. I would have no issue in trying this one again anytime, really a solid beer all arounnd.

mikesgroove, Aug 15, 2008
Photo of Winter
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Deep brownish garnet with a quickly rising light tan head. Malty nose with candied sugar, some caramel and alcohol. The mouthfeel is medium with airy carbonation. Interseting blend of malts. There's a spiciness from the yeast that's noticed right away. This definitely reminds me of a Belgian Pale ale the most in its flavor profile. Warming alcohol toward the back. Finish is dry with a very light hopping. A different kind of brew that hits the mark. I'd definitely try this again.

Winter, Jun 23, 2008
Photo of akorsak
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 12 oz bottle courtesy of JAYW.

A: The ale is darker than most Belgian IPAs that I've seen. The label calls it a hybrid of the Belgian, English and American pale ale styles, so it seems that the darker, fuller English malts are at play here. The color is dark amber, a rich brown-red meld. A finger or so of head has laced in spots around the glass.

S: The nose has a solid malt backbone, caramel and touches of toffee. The Belgian aspect is dark candi sugar with lots of equally dark fruits.

T: As I ruminate on the beer, the Belgian influences strike me as yeast and sugar. The mouth has the full, happening taste of dark alefruits, raisins et al, and tart green apple. The caramel malts aren't nearly as pronounced as in the nose. Dark candi sugars further push the BSDA aspect. The American contribution, I surmise, is hoppiness. Unfortunately that element never really stands out. This is no Hop-It but I like that it veers far off of the path.

M: The mouthfeel is complex, packing the flavor of a Belgian dark ale and an English pale ale together.

D: The 8.5% is a little high but one bottle to sip over several hours will do you good.

akorsak, May 11, 2008
Photo of grandq
4.22/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a caramel redish brown hue just short of ruby with a fluffy khaki head. Smells just lovely. Biscuit and toffee, apples and tropical fruit. Perhaps tea of some sort? Taking a sip I'm getting a caramel apple sweetened with candi sugar. Some softly bittering hops kicking in with very little citrus flavoring contribution, contrary to the nose. Green apple holds court at the back of the tongue. Sweet, crisp and dry, not overly so on any count. Letting this warm a touch to see what other flavors emerge: It grows a bit creamier, revealing some nutty notes, a touch more peppery spice and maybe lime in lieu of the pineapple I was smelling. The alcohol becomes a bit more evident on the back end as well, though not in an obtrusive way, lending some whiskey-like qualities before being overtaken with bubble gum and orange zest. I should revise that as it sounds gross, but hey, thats what I'm tasting and I kinda like it. Warmer, the mouthfeel begins to resemble a tripel more than anything to me. Just a touch too sweet overall - a bit of a hit to the drinkability tally, but its such a joy to taste the evolution of this beer I can't take too much off.

Seems like the Belgian pale is winning out in the end in this three-way battle, but even as it emerges victorious, the grainy malt of the American pale seems to want to drag it back into the ring. A wild ride of a complex beer. Really hard to peg just what this should be classified as. Several characteristics do point to Belgian IPA, but award points to Furthermore for stylebusting. Creative effort, and a great introduction to a brewery I'll be seeking out more from. Thanks to autumnaldave for this highly karmic extra. Very tasty unclassifiable brew.

grandq, Apr 23, 2008
Photo of blackie
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

a: Low head with decent retention over a pretty, ruby-brown colored beer.

s: Intoxicating aroma, a complex "mash-up" of contrasting scents. Sweet, sugary malts fermented with an estery strain carry aromas of dark, concentrated and caramelized fruit sugars on, as another reviewer observantly mentioned, a base of black tea. Big presence of somewhat pulpy hops...papery English with a touch of lemony American. Herbal aromas include dried sage and thyme. Alcohol becomes a bit fumy as it warms, maybe some hot high-order alcohols (might be misidentifying, but in any case I enjoy how it works here), and contributes to a tart green apple aroma...the Flanders influence? Even a little bourbony with the blend of spicy alcohol and fruity tobacco.

m: lively medium carbonation and body

t: Not as complex as the aroma might suggest, but quite nice. Pale grains steeped in black tea; deeply accented with a range of dry, dark and light fruits. Green apple, white grape. Herbal flavors similar to those in the aroma. Dries very quickly. Alcohol a little hot. A variety of hop flavors, with the bulk being English and a nice balancing citrus from the Americans. A moderate bitterness comes in the long, dry finish.

d: very enjoyable, but limited...I'll let the drinkability take the hit for what may or may not be off alcohols

shipped Southward by dirtylou, and consumed over the course of a lovely Kansas U vs. UNC-CH match

blackie, Apr 06, 2008
Photo of brewcrew76
3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a medium brown with a tan head and spotty lacing.

S - Pineapple and tropical, fruity hops, Belgian candi sugar, pale malt and toffee.

T - Fruit flavored black tea, touch of alcohol, slight taste of caramel and toffee, sweet Belgian candi sugar and a touch of fruity hops.

M - Medium body and slightly bubbly with a slight tea like astringency, a dry finish and a slight alcohol hotness.

D - Another very unique and tasty beer from Furthermore. Like most of their beers this one is very difficult to squeeze into a style. I look forward to more of their creative creations.

brewcrew76, Mar 23, 2008
Makeweight from Furthermore Beer
86 out of 100 based on 134 ratings.