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Makeweight - Furthermore Beer

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86
very good

134 Ratings
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Ratings: 134
Reviews: 96
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 13.39%
Wants: 14
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
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Wisconsin, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian IPA |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Golden2wenty1 on 01-11-2008)
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Photo of Sammy
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Belgian IPA - I do not know, howoever the facts I do have: I bought this at Riley's in Madison based on recommendations by staff. I had no idea what I was drinking when I opened it, it smelled like a yeasty Belgian, and tasting akin to an old ale/American strong. Dark brown body with tremendous spider lacing. Very smooth, understated hops and great malting. I should have bought more bottles!

Photo of ProudBeerSnob
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into tulip glass from bottle. Big airy head looks very nice, but very little lacing.  A bit dark for the style, more amber in color

Fruity Belgian nose a bit muted, But still appropriate for the style

Belgian yeast comes through here, a bit of banana and clove action here a bit too sweet in the finish. Where are the hops?

Not a bad beer, but more of a Belgian style ale than a Belgian IPA.

Photo of bsp77
2.73/5  rDev -28.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Chalice.

Appearance: Cloudy, dull orange that turns fiery in the light. Massive foamy head with loads of lacing.

Smell: Dry, musty and earthy, with clove, banana and black pepper.

Taste: Strange upfront sweetness with caramel, raisins and banana. The finish is a little peppery and spicy, but also has a massive metallic flavor. So it goes from a sickly sweetness to licking a penny. Not good.

Feel: Moderate carbonation, medium body with a very chalky finish.

Overall: First of all this is not a Belgian IPA. But why do I care, because I will never drink this again. I may try again in case I had a bad bottle, but there is no reason that it should have been bad.

Photo of Knapp85
2.95/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This brew poured out as an interesting copperish amber color, the head vanished quick. The lacing is non-existent. The smell is of Belgian yeast, and some floral hops going on. The taste to me seemed a little strange, not sure if the blend of things going on here really goes that well together. The mouthfeel Is bubbly and leaves a bite on tongue. It's really wasn't that great to me, I'd probably pass on this one in the future.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.45/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of BeerFMAndy. Served in a Russian River TION goblet.

Pours a cloudy dark copper color with a small white head that quickly fades into a thin collar and leaves only a spot or two of lacing behind. The nose brings forward some light caramel malt plus a bit of pepper and earth. Mild floral character and a bit of extra spice. The flavor really adds in the Belgian yeast factor, though there is little in the way of hops. Some floral and herbal hops, though they are not prominent. Bready malt in the background. Medium body and a finish that is heavy on the booze. Not a bad take on the style, but needs more hops and the alcohol has to mellow out a bit.

Photo of IronCitySteve
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a hazy orangish amber color with a small off white foam head with good retention. There is some spotty lacing.

S: A small amount of citrus hops is most noticeable. There are also some mild caramel, brown sugar and alcohol.

T: Starts off with a mild citrus hop taste that is immediately followed up by a nice candied brown sugar taste. The middle and back end produces more of the same. A lot of sweet sugar, caramel and bread with a mild undertone of citrus and fruit.

M: A nice medium bodied beer leaves a nice sweet malt taste on the palate.

O: A nice overall brew. Definitely worth trying.

Photo of uwmgdman
4.1/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This ale pours a slightly hazy copper-orange color with a moderate white head. The aroma is very Belgian--phenolic and spicy with some bready, sweet malt. The flavor is highly spicy and peppery with moderate bittersweet, doughy malt and a bit of hops shine through at the swallow....a bit floral and spicy. The body is moderate and carbonation medium. Overall this triple mash-up certainly is dominated by the Belgian component, but I find it quite enjoyable.

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.2/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Furthermore MAKEWEIGHT -
"A SINGLE BATCH CONFLAGRATION OF ENGLISH-, AMERICAN- AND BELGIAN-STYLE PALE ALES".

It's an interesting concept, but how well do the styles all work out in the mix?

The Belgian component is the most obvious, being yeast, and its clove character is quite obvious in the nose. Its phenols carry through into the flavor as well, and there's a bit of 'burnt-plastic' and spiciness to it as well.

The English component, to me, is the second most obvious. The body is a hazy deep amber with golden highlights beneath a creamy head of off-white that leaves short but solid walls of lace around the glass. Clearly there's a little bit of caramel malt in there, which would make it more English than American - but not necessarily more Belgian than American. Regardless of how you resolve (or not resolve) that, the malt's a bit caramelish and bready. But I also find what I'd consider to be English hops in here... floral, slightly leafy, and a touch grassy - and even a bit slightly mettalic or mineralish. I'm thinking East Kent Goldings and Fuggles.

What about the American side? I'm guessing there are some American hops to it, but I think they're over-ridden by the Belgian yeast. I did find some fruitiness (fresh cut red delicious apple, pear, cherry, red berry, and perhaps a hint of pineapple and citrus), and that could be coming from some Amarillo or another hop (...or from the Belgian yeast... ?), but I don't clearly find them. So, noting that the yeast component is clearly not American, and the malt component is clearly not American, and the hops don't appear to be distinctly American - I think the U.S. has been short-changed! Even the bitterness level seems a touch low to be American.

But let's go back to the malt. It's English in nature, but there's far more going on than that. It's too heavy to be English pale - perhaps an old ale or a barleywine, but not a pale ale. And it's too sugary as well. That leaves us with just some English hops in an otherwise Belgian-style pale ale. But even that doesn't seem to fit. It's just too big and malty. The name is appropriate (Makeweight), because it's a weighty beer.

So what is it? Ahhh, it's Belgian, who cares? Belgians don't really categorize their beers like we do (or at least they didn't until recently). "Belgian IPA" works for me. But what about the beer? Despite its kind of odd-ball premise of throwing together three different recipes, it somehow works. It's rich and spicy, and sweet and phenolic, and hoppy and mineralish. The alcohol is present, but it never really steps forward. There's enough bitterness to balance it, and it finishes dry with some residual yeast spiciness and dull phenols.

Overall, it's worthy endeavor.

Photo of woodychandler
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Leave it to us Americans to inspire a new style and to Aran Madden, a Pittsburgh guy, to bring us one iteration of it.

From the label: "An Ecumenical Mash-Up"; "A Single-Batch Conflagration of English, American and Belgian-Style Pales".

My pour resulted in two fingers' worth of tawny head with good retention. Color was an oh-so-slightly hazy deep amber. Nose was a riot of grassy hops, yeasty mustiness, and caramel malts. Yoi! Mouthfeel was medium with an intial sweetness, like a mixture of honey and carmel, then followed by a very yeasty mustiness, finishing with just a kiss of the hops. Sorry, Schlitz. Finish was almost mead-like with its dry honey flavor that lingered well after the swallow. Wild, but just one at a time, thank you very much.

Photo of OWSLEY069
3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazy orange-ish to copper color with an off white head. In the aroma, green apple fruitiness and candy sugar. In the taste, green apple, candy sugar, and a small dry alcohol. An alcohol bite and medium bodied mouthfeel, with a semi dry green apple in the aftertaste. Almost a sour, nice fruit presence, decent.

Photo of Miketwolf21
4.1/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First off, this beer is best if you let it age for a few months, the hops add to the complexity as they fall to the background. But if you like the unique taste of citrus hops in a dubbel then try it fresh. I am really digging the idea of mixing yeasts.
S: Smells slightly of lemony/grapefruity hops that are dominated by the smell of a sweet belgian dubbel.
T: You are welcomed with mostly a delicious belgian dubbel. Seriously, malt background is great stuff. The hops hit you midway through the pallet and complicate things in not a bad way. These hops tend to make it more refreshing and less sweet tasting. I think the hops are a touch too much fresh, but after six months- its perfect.
M- Great. Better than most american belgian beers. Its medium bodied.
Furthermore is one of my favorites. Creative flavors that are well constructed and articulated. Go out and buy a six pack. If you don't like it know, age it and you will be surprised.

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.38/5  rDev +15%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy dark amber, darker than I was expecting. A blend of three beers apparantly, the yeast interaction perhaps making it a few shades darker? Nevertheless, a nice looking beer. Fruity in the nose, some floral hops and belgian yeast fruityness. The flavor of this beer caught me off guard. Lots of belgian flavor, candied date and fig right off the back, dark fruits and light earthy hop bitterness. Pretty damn tasty. Medium bodied feel, smooth and creamy. Overall a very impressive beer from Furthermore.

Photo of PSUDREW
4.13/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: pours a nice amber color with a white foam head that does not last
S: honey, biscuits, wildflower, and sweet malts, and hints of citrus
T: such a huge blast of sweet upfront. hints of bubblegum, but the citrus and honey flavor is there and biscuit malt at the end. very interesting combo, as the standard pale ale hop presence at the end, and the crazy Belgian malt up front.
M: sturdy, but not heavy
D: pretty high

Photo of goblue3509
3.3/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a copperish color with a slight skim of off white color. The head gives way to a sticky like gob on the glass but not real lacing. The aroma is of belgian yeast and belgian candy sugars, with hints of a floral hop and a boozy finish. The taste is of belgian yeast and belgian candy sugars along with a boozy touch. There isn't really much of a hop presence, and it could stand to be slightly more balanced. The mouthfeel is slightly carbonated and slightly oily and slick. The drinkability is okay, after a couple the flaws could be more pronouced, but in small doses it is very enjoyable.

Photo of Lukafer
3.48/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to MilwaukeeCrusher for this!
 

Pours a medium-dark amber with 1 finger of tan head.  Smells are sugar, yeast, molasses and booze.  Tastes are yeast at the front, sweet caramel, burnt sugar, and a slightly drying boozy finish.  Mouthfeel is good and sticky.  Drinkability is kind of low, I think one of these is enough for me in one sitting. Interesting beer, but not one I would seek out.

Photo of rfgetz
3.55/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazed copper color, thin bubbly head, minimal retenion and lacing. Scent is a huge whiff of belgian yeast, belgian candy sugar and carmel and faint floral hops with a boozy note. Taste brings all the qualities of scent but each of them big and bold, making the beer come across as unfocused and muddled... yeasty, malty, sugary and hopy all at the same time with some notes of boozyness. Medium bodied, despite the look with acive bubbles, decent lighter carbonation. A beer that tries to have multiple bold flavors and comes across as somewhat cloying with each.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Poured into my Newcastle pub glass. Produced a really dark brown with orange tone in color and a nice pillow of fluffy head. Looks nice.

S - Ow god! Extreme Belgium yeast in the nose! It may have been sitting on the shelf too long since all I smell is yeasty, yeasty, yeast.

T - eww straight up! When I read the label I thought that a clash between an American, English, and Belgium ale was a bad idea but now I can taste it. Yeast everywhere and whats worse is the ABV is really noticeable so the brew made me gag if not influence me to vomit.

M - Heavy and cloying. Like drinking Gran Met on steroids.

D - Well damn it I have like five more of these! And whats worse is that it probably made the variety box so expensive was because of this crappy beer. Maybe I can give them to people I hate or friends that like yeast more than me. Pass!

Edit: tastes really more like a triple than a Belgium IPA. Really no hops at all in the nose or taste. Way to go Furthermore!

Photo of errantnight
3.63/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A fine beer, if not really a Belgian IPA. Thanks, mn6, for a few of these extras. I'm reviewing the first one, here, look forward to drinking the next couple.

This beer is a lovely, faintly hazed amber with copper highlights, superior retention and solid lacing.

Despite the blend of yeasts, two things stick out on the nose, Belgian esters and Belgian candy sugar. There is a note of hops just at the finish, faintly floral and a touch earthy.

On the palate this is a superbly textured beer. Round and full with a smooth, lingering sweetness. The alcohol doesn't present itself, but it shows up in the body. This reminds me of Dogfish Head in this regard, dried out to not be unbearably sweet, but lots of sugar remain the leave for a full, and still distinctly sweet beer. There's not quite the malt complexity to call this a dubbel, but it trends that way. Solid hoppy bitter to the finish before the sweetness takes over.

I might be dinging it a bit much on flavor, there toffee and dried fruit notes present themselves solidly and cleanly, if not with exceeding complexity.

Overall, seems like an excellent evening tipple to warm the soul. And for our relatively cool summer here in LA, I know I've got a couple more evenings of enjoyment in place thanks to this brew.

Photo of Katahdin
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured a nice medium brown color almost like a toffee color. Luscious head that held together nicely in the glass. Smell is interesting, almost a bitterness like citrus smell but none of that came through in the taste. Definite hints of caramel and roasted malts in the flavor and the hint of roasted malt lingers a bit on the palate along with a candied sugar taste. Goes down OK, a good session beer.

Photo of kenito799
3.85/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into a Duvel glass.

This darkish reddish amber brew raises just a bit of a head which fades to a ring, spots of lace trickle down the sides of the glass.

The aroma is heavy malty with definite Belgian bubble gum notes. Fruity cooked apples and pears.

The flavor is definitely a mash-up, some nice hoppy bitterness holding up the American perspective with candi sugar maltiness. Not sure if there is anything English about this. Overall quite a good beer, but it is heavy and creamy, if that is what you are in the mood for great, but the high alcohol and heaviness make it tough to consider drinking more than one of these.

Photo of philbe311
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - A dense two fingers of tightly packed creamy slightly off white foam with a slightly rocky top... Excellent retention... A beautiful rusted bronze color with an ever so faint reddish hue... Filled with moderate paced carbonation that rises throughout...

S - Grassy notes... Lemon zest... Subtle yeast... Some European hops... Very lite caramel... There's a lot of potential in the nose, but unfortunately everything is too understated and subdued...

T - Candied sugars... A minor yeasty component... Muted caramel and toffee... Perhaps even a hint of rye... Some bitter hops... The flavors blend well and work together...

M - Much richer and denser than your average Belgian IPA... Creamy... Lush... On the fuller side of medium bodied... A subtle tinge of carbonation... Slightly dry finish and an even slighter lingering bitterness...

D - A very solid offering and welcome introduction to Furthermore... Quite enjoyable, though it tends to stray from the guidelines for the style... I would gladly welcome again and even welcome a six pack in the fridge...

Photo of Slatetank
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks to tenderbranson69 for sharing this -poured chilled in a tulip pint

A - a lightly hazed medium brown - caramel color/tea like color w/ rocky light cream which clings like ribbons of lace. The bead is fine and so is retention

S - A smell of sweet malt and candy sugar is pretty prominent with light toasted malt and mild yeast ester. There is a minimal amount of hops and spice in the nose

M - the feel is creamy up front w/ sweetness in moderate range w/ mild carbonation and moderately full body w/ subtle spice making the sweetness come into balance in the middle w/ dry malty finish

T - The flavor has a caramel malt and light candy sugar taste w/ smooth yeast backing it and hop spice restrained yet there in the taste w/ mild fruitiness and gentle vanilla notes from malt and sugar continuing form mid to finish w/ mild creaminess in the flavor

D - The drinkablity is pretty good for this beer, not exactly sure what to expect given the description, but for what it is it isn't bad at all. I could probably handle having a few over time -like a dubbel with more hops and toasty malt. Not something to go out of your way for but worth trying for sure

Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle to chalice. No date on the bottle (nor indication of the ABV). But someone at Furthermore is a crafty wordsmith. The bottle says "An ecumenical mash-up" meaning in it's simplified sense 'a worldwide brew.' An appropriate description for an ambitious creation combining European malts with hops from England and American plus yeast from Belgium, England and the states.

A: Wow. This brew is much darker than expected. The body is a black walnut color that takes on a copper tone when backlit. The head is tan, creamy and sudsy at the same time, and 2 fingers high. It quickly disappears and leaves spare to no lacing. A sudsy film and collar hold on till the very end.

S & T: Partly roasted, partly toasted. Heavy malts of caramel, grain plus dark and sweet bread. Incredibly interesting malt bill. The hops are very much subdued, providing light herbal, grassy notes in the background. The yeast qualities are earthy and leathery and of average intensity.

M: Medium body, creamy smooth with an average but pleasant level of carbonation.

D: I believe this beer was conceived as a Tripel Pale Ale to confuse the hell out of people. I'm not even sure what I would call it and I am definitely not reviewing to style here. The lack of hop prominence strips the "I" out of IPA. It certainly has Belgian qualities from the yeast. But it's too dark to be a Belgian Pale Ale. I give up and it doesn't even matter. This is one unique brew, definitely worth the experience.

Photo of ChopperSmith
3.95/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a chilled standard pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a nice clear medium brown with amber tints. Nice two finger tan foamy head with good retention and big sticky lacing on the sides as it fades to a frothy cap. Nice!

Smell: Sweet fruity Belgian yeast phenols of green apples, pear and some lemon. Some nice sweet floral hops underneath. Very nice!

Taste: Wow. Very nice combination of citrus hops and sweet Belgian yeast flavors. I don't think I've ever tasted another beer quite like this one. It's a hybrid between an India Pale Ale and a Belgian style ale, and since I like both, I really enjoy this beer. Another winner from the Furthermore brewery.

Mouth Feel: Medium to low carbonation & nice balance. I would have liked a little more carbonation, but it's not bad either.

Drinkability: A very good session beer for me, since I love the hybrid of styles. Has a good sweet Belgian-like flavor, but with a Pale Ale hoppiness to the finish. I will be getting more of this beer...after I finish this six pack off over the next day or two. Great stuff!

Photo of robbyc1
4.38/5  rDev +15%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Into my Sam Adams glass, nice 1+inch head, off white, clear light brown look.

Spicy yeast like belgian combined with orange/lemon hops, very nice. Fresh smell as well.

All kinds of malty hoppy goodness here. Most of all it combines well, very tasty. Bready malt, deep across the palate, with a slightly dry finish telling you to drink more. This is a keeper. Big flavor is no surprise from these guys, and given the abv I expected a good beer. Combination of English, American, and Belgian pales, maltier than some hop heads would like, but fits my style well.

Bold body, well rounded. Nice drinker as well, keep em coming Furthermore.

Makeweight from Furthermore Beer
86 out of 100 based on 134 ratings.