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Thermo Refur - Furthermore Beer

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81
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37 Ratings
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Ratings: 37
Reviews: 33
rAvg: 3.51
pDev: 20.23%
Wants: 6
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
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Wisconsin, United States

Style | ABV
Fruit / Vegetable Beer |  8.10% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: EliteDigger on 02-28-2009)
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Reviews by roadhouse:
Photo of roadhouse
4/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle into a snifter

Pours a deep mahogany-red color with a gigantic two inch off-white head. It takes a while to subside and ultimately leaves decent lacing on the glass.

Aroma is very interesting. On one hand it's very sweet, I'm not sure how the beets play into this as I've never had a beet before, but I'm guessing it has something to do with it. The pepper is also noticeable here, quite strong actually. It makes for an interesting combo between the two. There might even be a bit of Brett in this, as there is a certain funk to it.

Taste is sweet up front as anticipated, it's a sugary sweetness, but not really a big malty sweetness. Hard to explain. Midway though the spicy notes from the pepper come in and they linger into the finish, leaving a slight "zing" in the back of the throat. Again, some funk is apparent leading me to believe there could be Brett?

Mouthfeel is medium-light, very creamy, but the carbonation is too high to the point where if you try to move it around the mouth it just creates a big foamy mouthfull.

A very interesting beer and probably not something I am likely to come by again. I recommend trying it just for the fact that it's so weird, and shit it's actually good too. Now I want to try an actual beet and see what it's like.

roadhouse, May 17, 2009
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Photo of orbitalr0x
4.35/5  rDev +23.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a single of this last time I was in Wisco. Pours into my glass an extremely deep garnet red not unlike some borscht I've had before. A big creamy off white head with a pink highlight to it. Aromas start off with black pepper spiciness tickling the nose. Earthy, vegetal scents mix in. Kinda smells like the beets were just picked out of the ground. Sweetness underneath with a bit of a funky twist.

First sip brings a bold upfront entanglement of earthy distinct beet flavors and heavy handed black pepper. A nice sweet dark maltiness run throughout. It moves down with a bit of a sour twang with yeast esters and a nice kick of hops as well. Pepper lingers in the back of the throat. This one opens up more as it warms as well. I found it interesting, original and tasty, albeit I do love pepper beers.

Mouthfeel is on the lighter side with a big blast of fast moving carbonation that makes it champagne like as it flows down. Overall, I can't help but enjoy the bold peppery aspect this beer has and that fact that it's just weird...but somehow very tasty at the same time. I'm very glad I picked this up and wish I would have grabbed another. I hope Furthermore does something like this again.

orbitalr0x, Sep 01, 2009
Photo of bpfrush
2.5/5  rDev -28.8%

bpfrush, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of degerbah
3.4/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Foud a bottle buried in my beer fridge as a result of a DLD trade. Oops. Poured a hazy dark brown with a ton of head, like half of my glass. Once the head settledI tried it and was kind of surprised at the intense set of flavors. Initially it tastes almost like a kind of off bock. There is an earthy beet-like taste that hops up quickly and then fades to the background. The aftertaste is what gets me. A little peppery spiciness, but also the salty quality I get when I drink a good baltic porter. It goes down easy for a high abv, but the craziness of the flavors blows me out of the water and makes it harder to appreciate. Still glad I got to try it.

degerbah, Jun 27, 2009
Photo of cokes
4.6/5  rDev +31.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pour into a glass the color of spilled blood- that red-black-purple hue-adorned with a mountainous stack of bleached mocha froth that doesn't budge much for a minute or so.
Uber-funkt aroma of iron, old pennies, bing cherries, beets, peppercorns (or peppercorns squared), dough, doughnuts, brandy,lemongrass, and hay.
It enters the mouth with a small nod towards caramel-tinged dough, then ventures in a much fruitier direction. Cherries, beets, apricots. The brett is thrown in and turns it kaleidoscopic, and leathery dry. It's a trail bag of dehydrated fruits: pineapples, apple, banana chips, and raisins. All whipped with a trace of vanilla cream. The brett brings some farmy influences that stop just short of manure. Or perhaps the pepper stops it. Sprightly black peppercorns add spice, almost-heat, basement floor mustiness, and dryness. Hops add lime oil and wintergreen. Almost all this is going on at the same time, in a whirling tempest of a beer. This is stupid deep.
The thickish body is given levity by the swirling and eddying carbonation. It's drinkable beyond its strength and the ridiculousness of its parts.
This is plainly and simply, fucking delicious. I figured this to be quirky for quirky's sake....and it is. I just never expected it to be so thoroughly owned and complete and amazing.
My opinion of Furthermore climbs several more pegs. This is absolutely world class.
I hope this isn't a single batch oddball.
I think I'm in love.

cokes, Mar 21, 2009
Photo of dirtylou
4.03/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thermo Refur (aka: beet beer in select circles)

appearance: poured into my hopleaf tulip...full garnet body with a huge beige cap and great retention...lovely

smell: funky brett yeast all over the place, dominating the nostrils...beet puree, black pepper

taste: leave it to furthermore to combine brett, pepper, beets and whatever the hell else they have laying around the kitchen into a beer. their new releases are as exciting as any around these parts. this one has an initial blast of brett yeast that is quickly met by huge notes of black pepper (i love black pepper in beer - see Knot Stock). beet puree is an interesting addition for sure but might add more to the beautiful color than the flavor. ridiculously complex, probably will not appease the masses, but keep on keeping on furthermore

mouthfeel: highly carbonated, active and lively, spicy

drinkability: sipper

dirtylou, Mar 16, 2009
Photo of emerge077
3.53/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A review mentioning Brett in this beer intrigued me enough to seek it out. 1st batch bottled.

Burnt orange color, billowing head in an Oerbier glass, served cool around 50º. Initial "Belgian" aroma I can't place but it leans toward a certain yeast. Swirling it pulls out a rich potting soil aroma and a definite beet sweetness. An A for creativity, but it seems a little subtle at first. Tastes dry, dirty. A bitter root finish like raw ginseng. Any Brett that might be present seems restrained and doesn't manifest in typical fashion. Pepper is in the back for sure. Very effervescent, it seems to dance for a moment and disappear, then leaving the impression that I just licked clean some root vegetables from the garden. A novelty, but not in the one hit wonder sense...I want to like this more, but it's just not convincing enough.

emerge077, Apr 05, 2009
Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.2/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle in a snifter. "Serve in a snifter or wine glass at 55° F" no date.

A - Refur pours out a brilliant clear red copper color with an off-white low but persistent foamy head. Moderate retention ended up leaving the head in a film of bubbles with no lace.

S - The red beets and black pepper certainly give the olfactory senses a rude awakening! Spicy pepper overshadows everything with a glorious "Bruery-like" scent that's unexpected. The beets add an odd but good vegetal aroma that subtly pokes out between the pepper. Toasted caramel malts and mild hops hide in the background of the spiciness.

T - Red beet flavor takes a shocking turn as it overwhelms both the pepper as well as the malty beer flavor. It's far too powerful as it elevates the nice vegetal hint in the nose to astronomical heights. Malts are all but lost offering only a sliver of toasted bread up.

M - Dry astringency bombards the mouth with an unwelcome "green" vegetable feel and sour finish. Otherwise it weighs in with a medium body and a crisp carbonation finish.

D - This turned disappointing quickly. The nose didn't predict what the flavor had going on at all and it's unique taste that first took me by surprise now grows to be off-putting. I applaud their ingenuity with the red beets but they seem to only effect the appearance of the beer positively.

BeerFMAndy, Jul 05, 2010
Photo of mikesgroove
2.68/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

This is how we ended our little session, and I feel I am glad I did as it might not have worked earlier in the night. Let this one warm up a bit per the instructions on the bottle before splitting it into two wine glasses.

The pour was wrong. Way over carbonated with most of it losing out to the insane amount of foam on top. I had to go through five or six pours just to get the whole contents out, but once I did a brown colored liquid was left in the glass with foam all over the glass. Odd aroma, light fruit maybe, definite pepper here and a touch of some light caramel perhaps. But then I take a taste, hmm. Pepper all over the one for sure. Prickly on the tongue with a fiery finish. What I am assuming is the beats comes off more like a light grape or plum note that is drown out by loads of malt and that rouugh pepper note. Hard to drink too much of it as it really starts to get to you on the finsih..

Overall anything with pepper or chilis can be a mixed bag to say the least and no exception here. Not that this was bad persay, it was just lost i think. Carbonation issues killed it in the front and a bad mix of flavors in the end.

mikesgroove, Jul 12, 2009
Photo of blackie
4.6/5  rDev +31.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

a: thick three-finger malted milkshake head floats atop a deep brown ale painted heavily with beet-red hues, the cap settles down to a full frothy coating and persists throughout

s: what strikes me first is the current of delicate brett sourness and wet hay funk, soft but assertive, and nearly identical to that found in Orval - though the beer underneath is quite different but equally or perhaps more complimentary, the malt is hard to describe - not quite fruity and not quite toasty - perhaps some combination of dried cherry and woodiness, and carrying a not-too-subtle flavor of raw freshly dug beets and a cracked pepper spice, some banana esters and brown sugar flit around as it warms, absolutely love this beer already

m: carbonation appropriately on the full side, with a body riding the light-medium line

t: malt body of woody dried tree fruits with a pale underside carries a farmhouse funk of rain soaked hay that gives a moderate sourness, dry all through - oxidized red wines, beet influence somewhat subtle but present in the crisp form of the uncooked root, the fresh pepper adds a graceful note of spice that's very well matched with the brett, finishes with a combination of funk and spicy dryness that just begs for another sip

d: by far my favorite of Furthermore's cutting-edge and disgracefully under-appreciated line to date, drinks more like a Belgian of modest abv, though the impact soon catches up, I'm a beet lover was initially attracted to this beer for that reason - but it turned out to be so much more than that

went pretty well with some aged gouda...single from the dirtman, bring me another dawg

4/14/2010 - highly carbonated, nearly a gusher, still a nice blend of funk and pepper, completely dry - somethings been going on in there, nose still exceptional - beet root and peppery with loads of hay, tons of brett here and on the tongue, really smacks the tongue hard, tart and lovely

blackie, Jun 09, 2009
Photo of supercolter
3.43/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Its ok but not really my cup of tea. Appearance is decent, red in color with some slight head, and no lacing. Smell is decent with some vegetableness and a slight amount of hops. Taste is not that great to me, very beety, I've had a lot of vege/fruit beers that I enjoyed more than this. Mouthfeel is alright, medium in body, some carbonation. Drinkability is alright.

supercolter, Sep 13, 2009
Photo of ppoitras
3.55/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle obtained in the No BS 4 BIF via dirtylou. Thanks for the opportunity.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a big ol' 3" tan head over the slightly cloudy deep red brew. Thick head is going nowhere fast, with sticky chunky lace. Aroma is sweet with ample funk. Taste is wow, lots of stuff going on. A peek of sweet to start, then spicy pepperiness, with middle to close of tart funkiness. Mouthfeel is a bit prickly, with drinkability having interesting flavors pushing you to revisit, but the oddity of those flavors possibly limiting same. An adventure, from beginning to end.

ppoitras, Apr 05, 2009
Photo of grub
3.83/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

EliteDigger hooked me up with this as an extra in a recent trade. thanks scott!

12oz bottle. sampled may 15/09.

pours deep purplish-red with a big white head. yep, like with everything else they touch, the beets have stained this beer. the head drops fairly fast but is easily roused with a gentle swirl. spotty lace. swirling a little more strongly shows a big thick head with a light purple tint.

aroma is wacky. lots of pepper. loads of earthy and woody character. fruity too. beet. date and plum. touch of caramel. bit of alcohol. floral too. white bread and cracker. leather. bit of horse blanket, but it seems to be more fruity/woody/funky than sour.

taste is wacky too. the first thing you notice is the high carbonation, but a little swirling helps to dissipate that. earthy and woody. floral and slightly perfumey. beet and notes of other root vegetables. pepper. bit fruity too. white bread and cracker. bit of leather and horse blanket too, but it's pretty mild. really more of an earthy/woody/veg/pepper thing.

mouthfeel is ok. carbonation is a little high. fairly light body with a nice dry finish.

drinkability is nice. the alcohol is hidden really well. it's a pretty complex and interesting beer. didn't really know what to expect going in, but it wasn't this. i think i like it!

grub, May 16, 2009
Photo of AgentZero
2.08/5  rDev -40.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Brought by scubarex to our Epic Chicago Tasting.

A - Brownish red colored beer, little bit purple. Decent sized head with little retention.

S - Wow, talk about a pepper bomb. I like some beets, and I like some pepper, although I've never thought of peppering beets. This smells more like someone tried to beet some pepper and failed.

T - Pepper pepper pepper pepper pepper... get the drift? Of course you do, you're much smarter than I give you credit for. This is just a massive amount of black pepper in this, which I actually like for about 3-4 sips, but then it becomes way too much. The beets are there as a buried backbone.

M - Moderate carbonation, medium bodied.

D - Ouch, I drank some, but then the pepper becomes too much. Interesting experiment, but this didn't work.

AgentZero, Dec 25, 2010
Photo of Gavage
3.2/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: pours a cloudy reddish light brown color with a short 1/4" head. No lace develops.

Smell: sourness, pepper, and a bit of fruit-like sweetness comes through.

Taste: pepper is a bit strong here as the beets provide an almost fruit like sweetness and there is a mild yeast tone. There is a mild sourness throughout and a mellow bitterness wrapping it up.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Smooth and dry throughout.

Drinkabiltiy: this was a one glass beer but a very interesting flavored one. Personally I thought it was a bit all over the place, but I don't regret ordering it.

Gavage, Mar 18, 2010
Photo of Dotcubed
3.65/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

I had this in the back of my fridge for a month or so.

I was intrigued by the beets. Sweet, earthy, and red. All interesting things for beer.

Pours out a massive head of foam. High carbonation visible with the Sam Adam's glass. Smells peppery and earthy or musty. Like pink peppercorns.
Dark brown color.

Sweet. Dry and tangy. Kinda weird. Is this Belgian inspired?
Has a bitter vegetal aspect with up front fruitiness of some kind. Long heat from some black pepper capsaicin. Caramelized sugar.

This is clearly weird as hell. No wonder no one likes it.

It's too fizzy. And with the clumsy flavors and hot pepper it is hard to enjoy.

I like the idea. I like the beer, but I can't recommend people drinking it who have well developed tastes or don't like Belgian beers.

Dotcubed, Jul 17, 2009
Photo of DefenCorps
2.58/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

I've enjoyed all the Furthermore beers I've had, and I had no idea this was coming out. Thank you, Joel!

Pinkish red with a dense, off-white head with good retention and nice lacing, this is a pretty good looking beer. The nose is pretty intriguing. The beets are immediately noticeable. Sweet, sugary and definitely beet-like, there's also a touch of pepper. There's a definite rose water present, and the entire package reminds me of rooh afza.

The palate opens with an intense beet flavor, super strong and almost astringent, as well as with some alcohol. Again, the rose water and rooh afza/ faluda-like. The pepper character is light, and hardly noticeable over the intense beet character. The finish has a blend of sweet beets and rose water with a touch of pepper. The alcohol is quite noticeable too, and is not particularly well-integrated. Drying, this beer has a medium-light body and is moderately carbonated. Unique but not particularly enjoyable.

DefenCorps, Sep 13, 2010
Photo of InspectorBob
3.5/5  rDev -0.3%

InspectorBob, May 20, 2013
Photo of BarrytheBear
4.4/5  rDev +25.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours deep ruby with a monstrous, billowy head that subsides only minimally.

Smells like a vegetable garden. Serious veggies, some fertilizer, a bit of dirt and garden funk. Amazingly, it's really appealing.

Fat beets, serious fresh peeper, robust smack of vegetative goo. Gunky dank salad mix fresh from the earth. Brett is added, which makes this funk nice and sour as well. Funky dank sourness, gitty up.

Walking the line between allowing this beer to continue opening up as it mellows, and pounding this bad boy down with vigor. A surprise treat.

BarrytheBear, May 05, 2009
Photo of jwjon1
2.05/5  rDev -41.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

I love beets. I love pepper. I love beer. Mix all three together and it is a match made in heaven right?

Wrong. Smells tempting and looks inviting enough, but the pepper component dominates the taste and is bitter to boot. I could barely put down half a glass, and the remainder is sitting in my fridge likely awaiting a drain pour.

Creative enough idea, but the execution is not for me. Take away the pepper, and I may be interested again. You can certainly smell the beets, which would have been fun to taste as well.

jwjon1, Apr 17, 2010
Photo of Viggo
3.5/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle, thanks for sharing grub!

Pours a lightly hazed dark reddish brown, kind of muddy looking, thick but big bubbled light tan head forms, quickly drops to a thick ring around the glass, tons of thick lacing sticks to the glass. Smell is pretty wacky, very sweet and funky, sour fruit, honey, very sugary, kind of beet like, very spicy and peppery, brown sugar, biscuity, really weird but kind of cool. Taste is very sweet and fruity, honey and brown sugar, very biscuity in the middle, lots of fruity character, cherries and strawberries, lightly sour, kind of tart and acidic in the finish, very peppery with some significant spice. Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied, with very high carbonation, very rough character to it. Pretty neat fruit and spice character but theres something about it that doesn't sit right. Thanks Russ!

Viggo, May 16, 2009
Photo of HopHead84
4/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received as an extra in a trade with eyncognito. Thanks!

Poured into a snifter. The beer is dark ruby and crowned with a large pillowy beige head that fades after two minutes. There's just a little lacing left on the glass.

The aroma is pretty interesting. It's peppery, spicy, and sugary, with some Brett that imparts mustiness. I don't know that I could have picked out the beet juice without having read the description, but it's noticeable now that I'm aware of it. Beet juice sounds pretty disgusting, I know, but it's subtle and actually complimentary. The sugar character becomes more candied as the beer warms past 55 degrees. Earthy hops are noticeable.

The flavor is very spicy up front, with notes of black pepper, segueing into dry and subtle Brett funkiness. Once again the beet juice is present, and once again it's pretty good. Dried fruits are evident, mainly banana and apple. The malt has notes of caramel underneath the candied sugar sweetness. The bitterness is at a low-medium level in the finish. The finish leaves my mouth completely dry.

The beer is medium bodied and I dig the high level of carbonation. This beer is very flavorful and definitely a sipper.

Serving type: bottle

HopHead84, Jun 09, 2009
Photo of WastingFreetime
3.9/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

AGED REVIEW

This one has been kept at ambient concrete poured basement temperature in Madison, WI for two years.

Pours out a cloudy burnt sienna with orange highlights and a flash head that leaves behind no lacing. Lighter side of medium body, light carbonation levels, dry crisp finish.

It still has a surprisingly strong aroma of cracked black pepper and sweet beets with a side of dill, rosemary, sage, and other savory sort of herbal notes. But compared to the nasal skull explosion of black pepper it had fresh, aging it two years has been just the thing to get it mellowed it down from "too much of a good thing" to "the right amount of a good thing." As it warms up it gains a subtle background bloody mary tomato and chili / lemon-lime peel aroma that blends well with a small amount of yeast phenols. As a fresh beer, none of these elements were allowed to truly shine over the pepper. As an aged beer, it smells amazing.

It tastes of a rather challenging level of leathery Belgian phenolics that wasn't as apparent in the nose, combined with that time-softened pepperpot sting that gradually pulls back from over the top of a bone-dry biscuit-cracker malt remnant with some medium-light cardboard oxidation popping up in the mid-sip alongside lemon peel and a vague vegetal (tomato) ghost in the finish. Where's the beets?

And here is where I realized that I should have checked it somewhere between one and two years, because the sweet spot was probably in that time period. I overshot. It's still drinkable and even pretty tasty, but nearly all of the beet sugar has converted into Brett phenol funkiness, and I wanted to retain a higher level of that beet essence in the flavor than this. The pepper levels are tamed, but the Brett murdered the beet flavor. Even so, it does make an amazing glass of peppery-seasoned sweaty horse saddle for the Brett-lover.

WastingFreetime, Sep 10, 2012
Photo of wryepicures
3.75/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

So almost any style notes kinda go out the window with this one. Odd, cool- very appropriate geographically speaking.

A: Poured into a tulip. Big old head that I waited patiently to go down...for...ever. Cloudy swirling yeast flecks and $god knows what else. Dark red/brown color. It looks purty and evil.

S: Now here's where I will sound weird: smells of pepper, vegetal, decay, fridge smell, bread, dark fruits, citrus, berries, malt, chocolate, blood. I swear I think I even smelled my grandmother's garage.

T: When the head went down, I taste the crazy yeast, veggies, fruits, and sugars first. Then what I can only describe as 'dark veggies', earth, mushrooms, shoes? and pepper. The finish was peppery and astringent. Leaving me wanting more. I also detected some herbs with the fruits. I didn't really taste beets so much as root veg and dirt. It was barnyardish, but nice- a hippie barnyard with happy animals and singing flowers.

M: Thick and coating. Not cloying sweet or hoppy bitter, but filling your palate with such an odd amount of flavors its hard to taste anything else. Alcohol burn down in the chest- or was it pepper burn? A medium carbonation.

D: I would pair this with an appetizer we used to order in Atlanta- candied beets with creamy blue cheese and truffle oil. I'm not sure how drinkable it is, I'd have some again and maybe even down the yeasty dregs if I was really feeling frisky. I know I like it, but I doubt it will be something I search out.

wryepicures, Mar 24, 2009
Photo of PrinceDarren
2.53/5  rDev -27.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

My grandfather used to pour Pabst into a frosty mug, crack a raw egg on top, and then toss in a dash of pepper. He drank it because he said "it puts lead in your pencil". At the time, I didn't understand what that meant. Actually, I still don't understand...

When I saw that this beer was brewed with Beets and Black Pepper, I thought "that sounds awful". So, of course, I had to try a bottle! I'm happy to report that this meets expectations.

The black pepper is too hard on the palate and dominates the flavor. The beets seem only to add color. Not much more to say...

In all, this is not a "flawed" beer. It's just that the whole does not surpass the sum of it's parts. There was never a reason for me to believe that these flavors would go well together in a beer. It was a worthy experiment, however, so it is appropriate to grade it with at least an average score.

Unlike my grandfather, I just don't like the dominance of the black pepper in this beer (or any beer). I drained-poured the second half. It was fun to try, though.

PrinceDarren, May 20, 2010
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Thermo Refur from Furthermore Beer
81 out of 100 based on 37 ratings.