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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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BA SCORE
87
very good

2,441 Ratings
THE BROS
86
very good

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Ratings: 2,441
Reviews: 1,260
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 55
Gots: 114 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

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Pahn

New York

3.53/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into Duvel tulip.

Appearance: Reasonably aggressive pour yields a 3/4 inch offwhite head that dissipates quickly, leaving a ring around the surface of the beer and minimal lacing. Color is a rather attractive opaque dark red. Not much subsequent lacing.

Smell: Too mild. Some grassiness, raisin, chocolate. It smells sort of like Harp Lager, with the aforementioned notes present but barely. Dark fruit notes get stronger and deepen as the beer warms. Pleasant, but not particularly inviting, nor does it really enrich the flavor, unfortunately.

Taste: First sip, nutty, roasty malt, faint raisin, and a mild bitterness near the end. Finishes a bit dry. There's an occasionally cloying sweetness. As the beer warms, a hint of breadiness comes out, but the flavor remains bland. Breadiness disappears, rather ugly and flavorless bitter finish persists, and dark fruit flavor deepens with some plum notes.

Mouthfeel: Decent, medium to heavy body, but a bit unpleasantly sticky. If the flavor were stronger, this wouldn't be a problem, but it doesn't compliment the bitter ending and borderline cloying sweetness. Carbonation is good (not too little, not too much; helps the beer).

Drinkability: Alcohol is pretty well-masked, though it catches up. Neither the flavor nor the mouthfeel are very good, but they kind of grow on me. To be honest, I can't imagine ever buying this again, but that's more because beers like Ayinger Celebrator exist than because this beer is that bad.

An underwhelming doppelbock, but also a little bit confounding. It promises some deep malt and doesn't deliver, so I want to hate this beer. Then again, the dark fruit character to the taste is occasionally very nice, and near the end of the bottle some of the sips are wholly enjoyable. I think this would be a great beer to give to someone who likes things like Harp lager, because it has significantly more flavor than Stella/Harp/BMC/etc. At the same time, everything this beer does well is done better by another beer (and not *that* well done by Optimator).

Serving type: bottle

02-07-2010 02:47:04 | More by Pahn
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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
87 out of 100 based on 2,441 ratings.