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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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Reviews: 1,297
Hads: 2,886
Avg: 3.89
pDev: 18.25%
Wants: 88
Gots: 357 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

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Photo of angelisauce
5/5  rDev +28.5%

From the first time I had this I loved it. It has a strong dark malty flavor slightly touched by hops and a heavy body. It seems only available very seasonably in WI and I make the most of its fall and winter availability.

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Photo of PanzerFaced
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This beer takes on a rich flavor with a distinct malty taste. I enjoy it's chocolate and amber flavors. You get just enough without it being to overpowering. This beer also has a nice alcohol percentage of 7.2% which is just right for this style of beer, you tend to not notice the alcohol with the balance of the malt.

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Photo of jeffjeff1
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of my all time faves!

Appearance- dark brown translucent color with nicr head

Smell- strong aroma of caramel( was in heaven when i smelled it)

Taste- caramel and chocolate

Mouthfeel- heavy body

Drinkability- very drinkable, very smooth going down

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Photo of 29mikoyan
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of the best doppelbocks in the world. Molasses and nice dark bread define this beer. A beautiful fruity finish. One of the best lagers in the world and also the best beers in this world.

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Photo of Optimator7
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I will only write this review, to profess my love for this beer. Ok, I've had 3 and feeling pretty damn good right about now.... yes they are 7% so you may get the idea that they will give you that warm fuzzy feeling pretty quick...

I've tried a bunch of beers and I keep coming back to this one. Thankfully it isn't the hardest to get. I was recommended to it by a German doctor. The point is, the guy has the money to buy what he wants and this was the one he liked. I'm usually disappointed by the rest of the beers I try and wish I had my Optimator instead. Ok, the Korbinian was damn good and so was the Celebrator. But they're more expensive and not more impressive. Seriously. This is the one to buy. A+++

Ok, just a bit about it. It is dark, rich, and sweet. If you want dry and bitter look elsewhere. This one will pair with a nice dessert or just about anything as far as I'm concerned. Yes, it does get better as it approaches room temperature but I haven't made it all the way there because it tastes too damn good. Enjoy and only rate it if you can appreciate a truly damn good Doppelbock.

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Photo of SteveoNY
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Presentation: 1 PT .9 OZ Brown bottle with crushed gold foil around cap. day code on lower left of label, but no freshness date.

Appearance: Dark amber color, with 1 finger of tan head, head retains very well, with lacing ring throughout the pint.

Smell: Hints of caramel, sweet and toasted malt, chocolate, slight hint of orange.

Taste: lovely rich malt flavor similar to a brown ale. abv very well hidden.

Notes: one of my favorites, Breakfast beer it is. a little thrown off by the label reading "malt liqour" on the side, guessing no hops.

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Photo of jmeador85
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Appearance - Dark enough to black out the sun with a creamy off-white head. Inviting.

Smell - This beer has a great aroma, like most doppelbocks, but this beer takes it to a new level. It's something like campfire s'mores if you were smelling them from your tent.

Taste - Delicious, and no mistake. The great aroma seems to go right back to your nose as you drink it, and it tastes malty and semi-sweet all the way down.

Mouthfeel - Again, superb. With a taste as great as this, you really MUST let it linger in the mouth a moment before you swallow it.

Drinkability - Damn good. My only note would be wary of the alcohol content. Doppelbocks generally have much higher ABV (alcohol by volume) than your typical can of Budweiser.

Verdict - Germans know beer. Spaten Optimator is a testament to that. I tried this on a stranger's recommendation a few months ago, and I must say it's become one of my favorites. When I go out for beers, I typically try something new and then finish off with something I know I like. This has become a frequent finisher for me. If you haven't tried Optimator, then you're missing out. Seriously - this is one of those beers that's so good that it makes you sad when you find your glass empty. On a side note, this beer still tastes exquisite out of a bottle. Some beers, e.g. Young's Double Chocolate Stout, taste much better from a tap than from a bottle.

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Photo of Braheem
4.99/5  rDev +28.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Love this beer! A friend brought this over to enjoy with dinner and I've bought this ale many times since.

This is a manly beer with a dark nut brown complexion and full frothy head. It's taste and smell remind me of homemade bread.

A staple beer at a great price point try it!

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Photo of mcoh1030
4.97/5  rDev +27.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Have been drinking this beer since I was a kid. Was hard to find may years ago and originally it was only available to me at one place and on tap.

Sat down with a couple of bottles of it last night in order to write this review. First, make sure your drinking this beer very cold. Not frozen mind you, but very very "cold". I like pouring it into a frosty mug or glass.

Before pouring, let the bottle sit open for at least 3 minutes. Pour it moderately fast so as to get a nice head. Loads of smells here. Liquorish, coffee and fruits are easily detected.

The color and texture could be stronger/deeper. But I'd still give them a 4.5 to 5. Drinkability is outstanding. This is a beer that's made for empty stomach pounding. It's a meal within itself. So make sure your not drinking it on a full stomach. Lite food fair or a small amount of prezels at most with this one.

Taste is perfect. Lots of fruit but underneath not too out front, as it should be. Makes for a great drinking doppelbock.

Best in winter. Very heavy for a hot summer day/evening.

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Photo of nortmand
4.92/5  rDev +26.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Ruby red/amber pour with a head that disappears too fast.

Rich caramel and noble hops in the nose.

Complex sugars mingle on the tongue. Ripe fruit, caramel, a little chocolate. Leaves a rich, sweet caramel aftertaste.

Full, slightly slick body. Very drinkable.

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Photo of beer256
4.92/5  rDev +26.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I tried this beer at a german pub in South Carolina and i thought it was great. I had two 16oz. glasses,the smell was nice with a variety of aromas pretty typical for the style. A touch of molasses and a lot of sweet malt.The taste is delicious and addicting. .A fantastic Doppelbock, I'm definitely going back for some more!

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Photo of pkalix
4.92/5  rDev +26.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

tall paulaner .5 L glass allows the dark ruby transparency with a small amount of head.
smell is sweet and caramel-ly
taste is sweet and malty and caramel-ly. and yummy.
mouthfeel is thicker, heartier; richer.
overall, has always been one of my all time favorites. all time. kind of like coming home again, ya know? love the style. love the brewery (even if it is very commercial). love the beer. this is what i think of when i think of a good german brew. not bitter, not tart. if anything, guilty of being sweeter than most might prefer, but i like my sweets. i thought twice about the three 5's. and this IS my first beer of the evening (afternoon?), so i'm not yet buzzed. i love this beer.

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Photo of BoilerMo
4.91/5  rDev +26.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

a: Copper and browns, tanish head.

s: Carmel and sweetness

t: complex carmel and sweets through out.

m: thicker with a sweet and smooth finish

o: My favorite dopplebock by far and I've tried many German and most American versions. That being said I like the carmel, sweet, bread like finish personally. This is a fridge beer(let it warm before drinking of course) for me. Easy to drink, high alcohol per volume but you would never know it.

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Photo of Jmaths
4.9/5  rDev +26%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: A gorgeous beer...darky ruby and earthy brown with a strong tan head.

Smell: Malty, barely hoppy, sweet, inviting.

Taste: Malt dominates, with slight molasses/burnt sugar, perfect amount of sweetness and smoky undertone, with very slight hoppy bitterness to balance the sweetness.

Mouthfeel: Feels somewhat thick, perfect amount of carbonation, alcohol is warming and slightly noticeable, mouthfeel magnifies as the beer warms and loses carbonation.

Drinkability: Very drinkable, but keep in mind, a six-pack of Optimator is worth a twelve pack of lesser beers in terms of the "effects". Where I live, a case of this stuff goes for about $31 (tax included), which is almost impossible to beat.

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Photo of RBorsato
4.85/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Seems like everyone is selling this one short ... maybe it's because it's Spaten or in a green bottle ... trust me - try this one side by side with Salvator and Celebrator and it holds up very well.

Dark reddish-brown (mahogany) with a nice creamy tan head, decent carbonation, an nice lace rings. Malty dark carmel-ish aroma and taste. Dark fruit notes throughout. Medium-full (leans full) with a rich creamy finish.

A bargain in price compared to Salvator and Celebrator and just as good as Salvator... now, Celebrator, that's in a class all by itself.

Per Label: Since 1397

Per Spaten website: Original gravity: 18.2. Alcohol content: 7.2%

($1.79 / 12 oz. bottle)

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Photo of Sixpack595
4.85/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I would put this squarely between Salvator and Celebrator in nearly every aspect. Color, mouthfeel, and strength of flavor are all a bit lighter than Celebrator. A dark beer, head is much better on tap than from bottle. I would put this as one of the more approachable doppels, great for introducing someone to the style. This is a doppel you can sit down and drink all night.

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Photo of Kopp
4.85/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is probably my favorite beer - I've had it in both bottle form and on tap in Epcot Center, in the Germany Pavilion. The guy working at the beer tap urged me to try this beer and I am glad I listened to him. You can get it at many liquor stores and it isn't expensive, and the alcohol content (7.2%) is a bit higher than regular beers, but not overpowering.

A: dark brown/reddish, almost black color, slight head that does not stay around for long

S: glorious. Has a roasted malt and somewhat sweet smell

T: even better than it smells. Malty flavor that is sweet. Slight bitter but not until the very end.

M: smooth and nice, a bit syrupy but full - not really carbonated

D: would drink at any time

Overall: It was one of the best beers I've ever had, highly recommend. It is smooth, tastes malty, almost bready, and a little sweet, barely carbonated, and looks and smells as good as it tastes.

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Photo of Jordan
4.84/5  rDev +24.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Cocoa flavor in the background, strong malt flavors. This has been my introduction into the world of doppel-bock. One of the most satisfying beers I've had the pleasure of drinking.
Contemplative, superb.

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Photo of kegerator
4.8/5  rDev +23.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

what can i say about this one. its one of my favorites in this style.
pours out deep brown with a good head that dissipates fairly quick and leaves decent lacing.
smell is very malty with slight hints of chocolate and dried fruits(very slight but they are there).
taste is all malt with some brown sugarish taste in the backdrop very nice. mouthfeel is very nice, smooth and crisp.
very drinkable as i buy this one all the time. If your planning on a German meal with brats etc. buy this one. it pairs up perfectly.

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Photo of sillyswa
4.78/5  rDev +22.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

pours a dark walnut nearly black with a beautiful tan head which doesn't stick very long, lacing that last to the center of my glass.

smell of roasted malts, some bread with a sweet scent perhaps honey? or really light maple syrup and i'm getting dried fruit like raisins. a cinnamon raisin bagel anyone? very much like walking into the local "Noahs Bagel" with the aromas of fresh brewed coffee.

taste of sweet malts that leads to roasted walnuts, tasting a little wheat bread. coffee-like and not that weak mild crap, but the dark bold potent brew. taste like what it smells.

creamy mouthfeel that lingers, not much carbonation. almost like that "going down on your woman" type of feel. hehe! oh boy i need a woman

overall this is very nice, well balanced and easy to enjoy. i'll def have this again. perhaps after i finish this one. lol!

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Photo of billybob
4.77/5  rDev +22.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

am i the only one that has a problem with the name of this beer. it sounds like a name for a arnold schwarzenegger movie. this is a very nice beer, pours dark brown red color half to three quarter head with good lacing. smell is of sweet bread. taste is of bread and honey sweet and smooth. mouthfeel is light smooth not over carbonated. drinkability excellent, buy and try this beer.

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Photo of BerkeleyBeerMan
4.76/5  rDev +22.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Appearance: Dark, non-transparent

Smell: Malts: Caramel, butter-scotch candy. Hops: Mild and clean hops that don't interfere with the malty characters.

Taste: The Malts come out strong and thick. It has a grainy coffee-like character to it. It is strong on the hops. The hops accentuate the body of the beer but never intefere with the overall flavor.

Mouthfeel: Heavy body with a mild coarseness like a well pulled espresso. Not very carbonated. Doesn't go flat.

Drinkability: This has been a favorite beer of mine for a while even before I thought about reviewing beers. It's a heavy beer that doesn't require a refill because it satisfies so much. You'll want to pick up an Optimator to help you wash down your dinner or to celebrate.

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Photo of karst
4.73/5  rDev +21.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From Spaten of Munich where lagering had its start. The high quality of this dopplebock is apparant in it absolute clarity and rich decoction produced aromatics and flavors.

My Stone barleywine glass showcases the outstanding appearances of a dense head and deep ruby-garnet beer. At 45-55° the toffee, toast, bready, Munich malt aromas are a little reserved.

A very complex taste dominates the nose and at first sip, eclipses the initial stellar charistics. I keep the beer in my mouth warming it and letting it beome chewy as the perfect carbonation expands it into a full chewy mouthful of sweet Munich malt, complex melaniodins. On swallowing the quiet hop bitterness combines with the alcohol of 7.2 ABV finish clean as the toasty malt flavors and delicious sweetness return again to the palate and esophagus to finally dry.

This is more that drinkable and above 55°F the aroma is awesome. Alcohol emerges with those toasted Munich malt aromatics. MMmmm mmm Munich!

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Photo of K270
4.72/5  rDev +21.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I'm not one to drink a dark beer. When I poured the beer into a clear glass the head was bountiful. Nice thick white head about 3 fingers thick. It stuck around a while then went away. A had a very nice smell, almost a mild spiced smell is the best way I can describe it. I might have to change my position on dark beers. I picked this up because it looked intresting and it's a very interesting beer. I'll definatly buy this beer again.

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Photo of acevenom
4.72/5  rDev +21.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a 1 pint 0.9 ounce bottle into a 22 ounce brandy snifter. Pours dark brown with a dissipating tan head that leaves some lacing. The smell is of sweet dark roasted malts and a bit of caramel. There's maybe a bit of fig in the smell. The taste is of lightly sweet malt, fig, caramel, a little bit of bitterness on the back end. It's not cloyingly sweet and the ABV is not noticeable. The mouthfeel is full and the flavors linger in the mouth, but it is very pleasant. The carbonation is well done. Overall, this is an excellent beer and is still one of my favorites.

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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