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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,501 Ratings
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Ratings: 2,501
Reviews: 1,262
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 62
Gots: 144 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999)
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Photo of Jmaths


4.9/5  rDev +26%

Appearance: A gorgeous beer...darky ruby and earthy brown with a strong tan head.

Smell: Malty, barely hoppy, sweet, inviting.

Taste: Malt dominates, with slight molasses/burnt sugar, perfect amount of sweetness and smoky undertone, with very slight hoppy bitterness to balance the sweetness.

Mouthfeel: Feels somewhat thick, perfect amount of carbonation, alcohol is warming and slightly noticeable, mouthfeel magnifies as the beer warms and loses carbonation.

Drinkability: Very drinkable, but keep in mind, a six-pack of Optimator is worth a twelve pack of lesser beers in terms of the "effects". Where I live, a case of this stuff goes for about $31 (tax included), which is almost impossible to beat.

01-09-2011 18:26:47 | More by Jmaths
Photo of RBorsato


4.88/5  rDev +25.4%

Seems like everyone is selling this one short ... maybe it's because it's Spaten or in a green bottle ... trust me - try this one side by side with Salvator and Celebrator and it holds up very well.

Dark reddish-brown (mahogany) with a nice creamy tan head, decent carbonation, an nice lace rings. Malty dark carmel-ish aroma and taste. Dark fruit notes throughout. Medium-full (leans full) with a rich creamy finish.

A bargain in price compared to Salvator and Celebrator and just as good as Salvator... now, Celebrator, that's in a class all by itself.

Per Label: Since 1397

Per Spaten website: Original gravity: 18.2. Alcohol content: 7.2%

($1.79 / 12 oz. bottle)

10-07-2003 20:11:56 | More by RBorsato
Photo of Sixpack595


4.88/5  rDev +25.4%

I would put this squarely between Salvator and Celebrator in nearly every aspect. Color, mouthfeel, and strength of flavor are all a bit lighter than Celebrator. A dark beer, head is much better on tap than from bottle. I would put this as one of the more approachable doppels, great for introducing someone to the style. This is a doppel you can sit down and drink all night.

01-01-2003 12:16:38 | More by Sixpack595
Photo of Kopp

New Jersey

4.88/5  rDev +25.4%

This is probably my favorite beer - I've had it in both bottle form and on tap in Epcot Center, in the Germany Pavilion. The guy working at the beer tap urged me to try this beer and I am glad I listened to him. You can get it at many liquor stores and it isn't expensive, and the alcohol content (7.2%) is a bit higher than regular beers, but not overpowering.

A: dark brown/reddish, almost black color, slight head that does not stay around for long

S: glorious. Has a roasted malt and somewhat sweet smell

T: even better than it smells. Malty flavor that is sweet. Slight bitter but not until the very end.

M: smooth and nice, a bit syrupy but full - not really carbonated

D: would drink at any time

Overall: It was one of the best beers I've ever had, highly recommend. It is smooth, tastes malty, almost bready, and a little sweet, barely carbonated, and looks and smells as good as it tastes.

03-20-2009 21:16:00 | More by Kopp
Photo of Jordan


4.85/5  rDev +24.7%

Cocoa flavor in the background, strong malt flavors. This has been my introduction into the world of doppel-bock. One of the most satisfying beers I've had the pleasure of drinking.
Contemplative, superb.

10-28-2001 19:34:17 | More by Jordan
Photo of kegerator


4.83/5  rDev +24.2%

what can i say about this one. its one of my favorites in this style.
pours out deep brown with a good head that dissipates fairly quick and leaves decent lacing.
smell is very malty with slight hints of chocolate and dried fruits(very slight but they are there).
taste is all malt with some brown sugarish taste in the backdrop very nice. mouthfeel is very nice, smooth and crisp.
very drinkable as i buy this one all the time. If your planning on a German meal with brats etc. buy this one. it pairs up perfectly.

06-23-2004 13:27:04 | More by kegerator
Photo of billybob


4.8/5  rDev +23.4%

am i the only one that has a problem with the name of this beer. it sounds like a name for a arnold schwarzenegger movie. this is a very nice beer, pours dark brown red color half to three quarter head with good lacing. smell is of sweet bread. taste is of bread and honey sweet and smooth. mouthfeel is light smooth not over carbonated. drinkability excellent, buy and try this beer.

10-13-2006 04:26:37 | More by billybob
Photo of BerkeleyBeerMan


4.8/5  rDev +23.4%

Appearance: Dark, non-transparent

Smell: Malts: Caramel, butter-scotch candy. Hops: Mild and clean hops that don't interfere with the malty characters.

Taste: The Malts come out strong and thick. It has a grainy coffee-like character to it. It is strong on the hops. The hops accentuate the body of the beer but never intefere with the overall flavor.

Mouthfeel: Heavy body with a mild coarseness like a well pulled espresso. Not very carbonated. Doesn't go flat.

Drinkability: This has been a favorite beer of mine for a while even before I thought about reviewing beers. It's a heavy beer that doesn't require a refill because it satisfies so much. You'll want to pick up an Optimator to help you wash down your dinner or to celebrate.

12-05-2010 09:14:40 | More by BerkeleyBeerMan
Photo of sillyswa


4.8/5  rDev +23.4%

pours a dark walnut nearly black with a beautiful tan head which doesn't stick very long, lacing that last to the center of my glass.

smell of roasted malts, some bread with a sweet scent perhaps honey? or really light maple syrup and i'm getting dried fruit like raisins. a cinnamon raisin bagel anyone? very much like walking into the local "Noahs Bagel" with the aromas of fresh brewed coffee.

taste of sweet malts that leads to roasted walnuts, tasting a little wheat bread. coffee-like and not that weak mild crap, but the dark bold potent brew. taste like what it smells.

creamy mouthfeel that lingers, not much carbonation. almost like that "going down on your woman" type of feel. hehe! oh boy i need a woman

overall this is very nice, well balanced and easy to enjoy. i'll def have this again. perhaps after i finish this one. lol!

03-25-2009 03:21:14 | More by sillyswa
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New York

4.76/5  rDev +22.4%

09-01-2014 01:57:13 | More by ssdarius
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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

06-14-2014 16:46:24 | More by Spaten454
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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

04-21-2012 20:32:34 | More by EROCK83
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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

03-25-2012 20:21:01 | More by tyleeis
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South Carolina

4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

10-29-2013 03:28:43 | More by breedsimpsonville
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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

08-03-2012 02:07:04 | More by blubaja
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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

11-08-2012 05:29:23 | More by apg1014
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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

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New Jersey

4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

03-23-2014 15:42:51 | More by ZCW
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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

From Spaten of Munich where lagering had its start. The high quality of this dopplebock is apparant in it absolute clarity and rich decoction produced aromatics and flavors.

My Stone barleywine glass showcases the outstanding appearances of a dense head and deep ruby-garnet beer. At 45-55° the toffee, toast, bready, Munich malt aromas are a little reserved.

A very complex taste dominates the nose and at first sip, eclipses the initial stellar charistics. I keep the beer in my mouth warming it and letting it beome chewy as the perfect carbonation expands it into a full chewy mouthful of sweet Munich malt, complex melaniodins. On swallowing the quiet hop bitterness combines with the alcohol of 7.2 ABV finish clean as the toasty malt flavors and delicious sweetness return again to the palate and esophagus to finally dry.

This is more that drinkable and above 55°F the aroma is awesome. Alcohol emerges with those toasted Munich malt aromatics. MMmmm mmm Munich!

06-23-2005 04:00:29 | More by karst
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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

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4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

08-17-2012 14:38:03 | More by NateMac13
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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