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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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87
very good

2,429 Ratings
THE BROS
86
very good

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Ratings: 2,429
Reviews: 1,260
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 55
Gots: 112 | FT: 0
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Germany

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

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BeefyMee

Connecticut

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I poured this and was surprised to find out that the bottle is actually green. The beer has a wonderful reddish hue when held up to light. The smell was a disappointment, as it was hardly even there. I only got a whiff of a little alcohol, malt, and a faint lager-like aroma. The taste, however, makes up for this. I'm a sucker for malt and this one has it in spades, like I was hoping it would. A little more complexity would have driven this beer into the upper echelon of great tasting brews, but I thoroughly enjoyed it nonetheless. Some alcohol is present in the flavor, and a butteriness dominates the aftertaste. The hops come through ever so slightly in the aftertaste as well.

Serving type: bottle

12-30-2003 07:15:05 | More by BeefyMee
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BeerBuilder

Minnesota

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This one pours to a ruby-brown color with a light brown head. The aroma is malty, bready, and roasty. The flavor is malty, bready, chocolatey, with a bit of roastiness. This is a full-bodied, alcoholic brew. Very malty and tasty. I really enjoy the malty doppel bocks.

Serving type: bottle

05-13-2003 05:02:58 | More by BeerBuilder
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OtherShoe2

Massachusetts

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep ruby brown with a decent head to start, then nothing but a slight ring down the pint. No lacing.

Boozy stone fruit, brown bread, and malt aromas.

A nicely balanced doppelbock with rich roasted malt, pumpernickel bread notes, some burnt sugar, and a fairly clean but bitter finish. Nothing extreme here.

The carbonation helps this one tremendously, where the flavors are instantly cleared from your tongue. Keeps this one lighter and more drinkable than others. Body is medium, but a bit on the light side of that spectrum.

Overall, very good. A decent version of the style. Simple, but full of flavor. A good one to try if you are getting into doppelbocks. And cheap too! I bought this as a $1.80 single.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2010 20:59:59 | More by OtherShoe2
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mnj21655

Massachusetts

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark brown with hints of red. Had a 1/2" white head that disappeared completely and fast. Smells of chocolate and vaguely reminiscent of red wine. Tastes like it smells. Licorice is also present as is a hint of bitterness at the finish. Nice mouthfeel. Not as thick as I had expected. Great drinkability, ABV is on the high side but I haven't let that stop me yet. Overall this is a good, solid beer. Not something I'd go out of my way for but should the opportunity arise I would certainly have it again.

Serving type: bottle

08-21-2006 02:57:48 | More by mnj21655
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proc

Michigan

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Full of flavor, nice malt taste with just tinge of sweetness. Easy to drink with a nice aftertaste. The alcohol has a warming effect as you drink it. More of a cool weather offering. For some reason, drinking this outdoors on a crisp evening brings out the beer's flavor and enjoyment.

Serving type: bottle

06-21-2002 06:38:56 | More by proc
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RoamingGnome

Wisconsin

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured out of a 12 oz bottle into a tulip style pint glass

A) Dark brown with a nice inch of tan head. The head settles pretty quickly. There was no lacing. In the end it kind of looks like a Pepsi Cola with less carbonation.

S) There is malt upfront and a sweetness that seems like a combination of brown sugar and a bit of booze.

T) Roasted malt with a bit of toffee, light chocolate and hazelnut. This has nice balance, and the 7.6 ABV is hardly detectable.

M) A medium to full bodied brew that is lightly carbonated. This one is soft and creamy. My palate has no complaints.

O) The double shovel is tasty, and almost always means good times are around the bend. As my uncle says, let's get Optimated!!!!

Serving type: bottle

09-16-2011 22:57:21 | More by RoamingGnome
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jlh8643

Indiana

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a green bottle with no date into my HB mug. Dark brown body with red highlights. A thin, creamy tan head that fades fast. Very malty sweet aroma, like a lot of caramunich malt. Some prunes and rasins in there too. Some noble hops play a minor roll in the aroma. I almost think I can smell a hint of mint there too. Full bodied. Sweet with a bit of chocolate malt and some kinda nuttiness. Finishes with a grape or wine taste. I wouldn't have minded to have another but I only had one bottle.

Serving type: bottle

03-11-2006 04:57:36 | More by jlh8643
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jettjon

Florida

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Highs: Appearance, nose, flavor
Lows: Thin mouthfeel

Pours a dark, clear amber brown with no visible carbonation. Head is thick brownish tan, fading down slowly to 1-finger, great retention, good lacing. Nose heavy on yeast, some alcohol, sweet malt, sorghum, and maybe some dark fruit. Taste sweet malt well balanced again mild hops, yeast, a tiny bit of alcohol, finishing on a yeasty/fruity note that lingers for a bit toward the back of the tongue. Mouthfeel is a little disappointing, mostly watery with just a bit of creamy substance to it. Drinkability is very good.

Overall: A good and surprisingly inexpensive dopplebock (about 8 bucks for a sixer, versus 2 bucks plus each for Celebrator). Not as good as Celebrator or Samichlaus, but a darned good dopplebock nonetheless. Try it.

Serving type: bottle

07-30-2006 21:17:27 | More by jettjon
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afordney

Tennessee

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark Reddish Brown color, one-finger off-white head dissapeared quickly, pretty attractive bubbly look and nice color

Smells malty, slight hops, and hints of caramel.

Tasty roasted malt gives way to caramel and toffee notes, slight hop bitterness and earthy coffee flavor in the finish.

Full flavor, well balanced between bitterness and malty sweetness

A fantastic dopplebock, one I will use as a standard.

Serving type: bottle

05-11-2006 01:55:12 | More by afordney
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atpben

Texas

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured it into a pint glass and it came out a nice reddish brown color with a deep head. Aromas of mostly brown sugar and some hops. Very smooth in the taste with chocolate, brown sugar, and very light caramel. This beer is very drinkable. It ends nicely with the typical Spaten bitternes with a very light metallic aftertaste. Very nice beer.

Serving type: bottle

07-09-2009 01:13:37 | More by atpben
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kylehay2004

Florida

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: half finger head on a deep amber hazy body.

S: sweet caramel and chocolate malts and cocoa.

T: malts with dark fruit and lots of dark chocolate with some toasted malts.

M: medium body and moderate carbonation.

Overall: This is a nice beer but a little less spicey than I like for the style. Still a good beer to have routinely.

Serving type: bottle

05-11-2012 01:28:22 | More by kylehay2004
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goindownsouth

Pennsylvania

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is really an area of German Biers that I have not gotten into much just yet. But I will be visiting it again soon. This malty and rather herbacious brew was a real winner. The roasted goodness stayed in the nose, and lasted through to the last sip. This is a solid Bier.

Prosit!

Serving type: bottle

03-13-2004 16:17:29 | More by goindownsouth
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techtatu

Texas

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured a nice caramel color with a cream color head...it was about 2 fingers width and lasted quite a while. Very little lacing on the glass and bland smell. It had a dark caramel taste to it and no bitter after taste.

This beer is definitely going into the fridge with the Salvator. Something I would enjoy after a long hard and drawn out week, and it's not a beer I would suggest to a buddy who has never drank before.

Serving type: bottle

10-18-2008 16:47:03 | More by techtatu
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OlRasputin989

Arkansas

3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: dark brown brew that is ruby red when held to he light. decent off white head

S: dark chocolate and cherries. very simple but nice

T: dried fruit, brown sugar and an oak barrell flavor. finishes with a hoppy and spicy, chocolatey oarnge peel fade

M: medium body with good carbonation and an oily entry fades to slightly oily and dryish

Overall, This is a very good dopplebock and a fine example. This beer is always good when i don't know what to buy.

Serving type: bottle

08-10-2009 00:54:24 | More by OlRasputin989
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Geegmasta

New York

3.99/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Purchased: 30 Jan 2014
Poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance- Pours dark amber red with a mid-sized head that is stark white in comparison. The head slowly retreats leaving little to no lacing. Carbonation bubbles gather at the bottom of the glass, releasing themselves into the deep crimson abyss.

Smell- Semi-sweet and fruity. Not overbearing. No hints at higher than average ABV.
Taste- Comes on sweet, yet dark. Malts and hops battle for taste bud conquest yet neither achieves victory which makes for a nice mix. There is a crispness about this beer and it finishes smooth and quickly. You’d never know that this beer is 7.6% ABV.

Mouthfeel- Little carbonation and a nice medium coating of the mouth. It retreats down the esophagus leaving a brief tickle on the tongue, memoirs of the low carbonation.

Overall- Spaten really did a great job with this beer. Price point is right on at $15.99 USD for a 12-pack that really hides a high ABV compared to most other beers. This doppelbock is fantastic in the middle of winter thanks to the warming alcohol content but refreshing enough to be drank on the hottest days of summer. When in doubt in my local beer store, I always turn to Spaten’s Optimator.

Serving type: bottle

01-31-2014 00:24:09 | More by Geegmasta
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Altair


4/5  rDev +2.8%

07-07-2012 01:02:36 | More by Altair
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DavyJones

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +2.8%

05-27-2012 17:19:10 | More by DavyJones
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kaimcm

California

4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: strong body thats black in the room, but not quite opaque. ruby edges reveal
a deep hue when held up to light. creamy head leaves a splochy glass.

S: plums, molasses, nuts, maple, sweet malt, alcohol

T: creamy body is oily slick and quickly coats mouth with a sweet malt flash that gives way to a softer chewier malted milkball quality. vanilla comes through, dark fruit, some maple from the nose, red grapes, chocolate. finishes with a touch of bitter, lingering sugar, and as the beer warms, a barely tart spice.

M: a bit light, and not as chewy as I would like for the style but otherwise nice.

D: I have been impressed by this beer and could enjoy it often, though considering better examples of the style are easy to find, dont know how often I will.

Serving type: bottle

01-22-2006 06:27:36 | More by kaimcm
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tbryan5

Louisiana

4/5  rDev +2.8%

05-24-2014 03:50:17 | More by tbryan5
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csmartin6

New York

4/5  rDev +2.8%

07-28-2012 20:04:07 | More by csmartin6
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grynder33

Wisconsin

4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer poured a dark brown color.It had a strange unexpected aroma, sort of like sourdough bread. The taste that followed however was typical and nice. Nice molasses sweet roasted flavor. This became a nice carmelly taste in the middlewith a sweet coffeeish aftertaste. Very little bitterness. It had a nice light feel to it, one of the few doppels you could drink after strenuous exertion on a hot day.

Serving type: bottle

09-27-2003 16:23:52 | More by grynder33
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BuckeyeSlim

Ohio

4/5  rDev +2.8%

04-22-2012 23:19:05 | More by BuckeyeSlim
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warriorsoul

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed a bottle w/ my brother at the Flying Saucer in downtown Raleigh, NC...
Poured (by staff) and arrived in a standard pint glass a dark worn-rust color w/ a 1/2 finger of off-white head. A nice lacing produced...
Aroma is sweet malt w/ some raisins...
More raisins in the taste...quite sweet w/ no alcohol detected.
A slight chocolate character, but not a chocolate beer by any means...just a subtleness to make this one true to the style.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied....carbonation is perfect.
I could enjoy this one all evening if given the chance...will hunt this one down in the future.

Serving type: bottle

09-04-2005 21:10:17 | More by warriorsoul
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dcevans

Texas

4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-27-2011 07:34:11 | More by dcevans
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Mora2000

Texas

4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pint served at the Fort Worth Gingerman.

The beer pours a dark brown color with an off-white head. The aroma has notes of caramel with some dark fruit mixed in. The flavor is just as good if not better. I get some caramel malts, bready malts, grapes, dark fruit and molasses. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Serving type: on-tap

07-08-2010 05:30:25 | More by Mora2000
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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