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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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very good

2,639 Ratings
very good

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Ratings: 2,639
Reviews: 1,270
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.6%
Wants: 63
Gots: 192 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu visit their website

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999)
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Photo of ncstephen
4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

ncstephen, May 20, 2012
Photo of TimH
3/5  rDev -22.9%

TimH, May 19, 2012
Photo of SeriousALEment
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

SeriousALEment, May 18, 2012
Photo of Ryan011235
2.13/5  rDev -45.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Poured into an E&J Cask & Cream glass on 4/18/12

Deep tobacco brown with a copper sheen. Ambitious head of over three fingers that drops moderately slowly.

The nose finds aromas of plum, dark fruits, dusty yeast, husk and buttered bread. Hints of toffee. Something odd is going on, though the bread comes to the fore over time.

Leading off are dark fruit flavors are a bit too juicy for my liking and they have a tangy bent that doesn't jive. The middle finds hints of faint, earthy hops and decay. Toasted grains and bread pick up on the back half, but not enough to salvage this one.

The first aspect of the feel that come to mind is a pervassive booziness that stays long on the finish; it isn't gnarly hot, per se, but the modest heat doesn't subside. The body is medium-thin and a touch on the watery side.

Overall impression - Could be worse, but I'm not particularly impressed with this one.

Ryan011235, May 16, 2012
Photo of ejimhof
3.5/5  rDev -10%

ejimhof, May 16, 2012
Photo of consumerjim
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

consumerjim, May 15, 2012
Photo of K-Andrews
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

K-Andrews, May 15, 2012
Photo of biboergosum
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

355ml bottle, from a grocery store in Waikiki. Waves currently crashing outside on Kona-area beach, screwing with my beer appreciation environment-ometer...

This beer pours a clear, dark reddish amber hue, with two fingers of dense, cake-like foamy tan head, which leaves a few broad streaks of lace around the glass as it quickly recedes.

It smells of raisin-heavy dark fruity malts, some secondary, but still prolific caramel/toffee, and a mild nutty chocolate twinge. The taste continues with the big dark fruity malt, a bit of toasted bready yeastiness, and very subtle earthy, leafy hops. A slight warming pervades once things near room temperature.

The bubbles are quite sedate, lending well to a medium-full body, that is quite smooth, with silky tendencies. It finishes fairly sweet, the prune and raisin malt seeing just faint challenge from the tingly hops and booze warming.

A pretty decent doppelbock, nice and sweet, and balanced, mostly, with a deftly integrated elevated ABV. I would recommend this, especially if the weather wasn't so, well, tropical.

biboergosum, May 14, 2012
Photo of JeffTheJuice
4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

JeffTheJuice, May 13, 2012
Photo of KimbarkBrewCrew
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

KimbarkBrewCrew, May 12, 2012
Photo of Profchaos20
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Profchaos20, May 12, 2012
Photo of Riverared
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%

Riverared, May 12, 2012
Photo of MrBillyMac
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

MrBillyMac, May 12, 2012
Photo of Metal4Breakfast
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Metal4Breakfast, May 12, 2012
Photo of tdm168
3.58/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - dark brownish amber with a red hue; half of an inch of thick, soft, brownish head; great retention

S - musty, caramel, yeasty, toffee, faint chocolate, very faint dark fruit

T - chocolate, caramel, dark fruit, faint cherries, faint alcohol, toffee, lingering bitterness in the finish

M - medium bodied, smooth, a crisp carbonated finish, a bit warm

This is a pretty decent beer. The flavor is solid, but the bitter finish doesn't mesh well with the rest of the profile. The nose is also pretty decent, but it has that traditional euro musty note. Overall, it's definitely worth checking out

tdm168, May 12, 2012
Photo of dmargittai
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

dmargittai, May 11, 2012
Photo of IrishGermanAmerican
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%

IrishGermanAmerican, May 11, 2012
Photo of kylehay2004
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: half finger head on a deep amber hazy body.

S: sweet caramel and chocolate malts and cocoa.

T: malts with dark fruit and lots of dark chocolate with some toasted malts.

M: medium body and moderate carbonation.

Overall: This is a nice beer but a little less spicey than I like for the style. Still a good beer to have routinely.

kylehay2004, May 11, 2012
Photo of IBU99
3.5/5  rDev -10%

IBU99, May 08, 2012
Photo of Bobhoya
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Bobhoya, May 08, 2012
Photo of Dave1999
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown/red with some a small amount of bubble and tiny bit of off white head.

The smell is malts, treacle and dark fruits like raisins, plums and figs. There's also a bit of alcohol on the nose.

The taste is big on sweet malts, prunes, grapes a bit of alcohol and little bit of bitter grassy hops.

The mouth feel is smooth and slick with a medium body and very little carbonation. The also a bit of a tingle from the alcohol.

Overall a pretty enjoyable beer with a high abv. The abv is hidden slightly but the taste and nose definitely contain some alcohol. Not the best dopplebock I've ever had but is reasonably easy to find.

Dave1999, May 08, 2012
Photo of kgibson
4/5  rDev +2.8%

kgibson, May 07, 2012
Photo of BeerLover99
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: dark chestnut brown body, trace off-white head,
mild lacing

S: roasted malt, nutty, caramel

T: same as the nose, hint of ripe fruit,
mild boozy finish

M: med body, smooth mouth

O: Very nice beer. Would get again
and also recommend, but there are
American craft doppelbocks that are superior.


BeerLover99, May 07, 2012
Photo of avisong
3.5/5  rDev -10%

avisong, May 07, 2012
Photo of grantino9
4.75/5  rDev +22.1%

grantino9, May 07, 2012
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
88 out of 100 based on 2,639 ratings.