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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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87
very good

2,392 Ratings
THE BROS
86
very good

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Ratings: 2,392
Reviews: 1,259
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.08%
Wants: 51
Gots: 99 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

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soper2000

Texas

3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed on tap at Chumley's in Lafayette.
Pours a nice brown color with a minimum head. Smells very sweet, almost sickly sweet in my opinion with faint notes of alcohol. Very interesting flavor on this one. Malt flavor sticks out the most followed by a sweet finish. Nice mouthfeel on this beer and drinkability is good. I like this beer but I was just put off by the aroma, maybe it's something i'll grow to love.

Serving type: on-tap

04-18-2004 01:12:21 | More by soper2000
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Biscuit033

Pennsylvania

4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a clear dark amber with a one finger light tan head with minimal lacing.

S: Toffee, chocolate, caramel, and bread.

T: Explosion of bready malt in the mouth, with bitter chocolate, caramel, and molasses.

M: Full body, chewy, with a lingering bitter, malty finish.

D: This is as drinkable as a doppel can be. Even sweetness and fullness while the alcohol is warming but not perceptable in the taste.

Serving type: bottle

02-09-2008 23:27:17 | More by Biscuit033
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headyhopzhead

Indiana

3.5/5  rDev -10%

12-26-2011 02:50:45 | More by headyhopzhead
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Pacioli1445

South Dakota

3.5/5  rDev -10%

11-20-2012 02:33:49 | More by Pacioli1445
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neil2me

Connecticut

4/5  rDev +2.8%

05-27-2014 02:48:27 | More by neil2me
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rph97

Texas

4.25/5  rDev +9.3%

09-07-2013 20:00:38 | More by rph97
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Tayloraphilips

Texas

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

08-16-2013 01:16:51 | More by Tayloraphilips
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1p5v

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +2.8%

12-23-2011 04:32:39 | More by 1p5v
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WetCoaster

California

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours an absolutely beautiful clear ruby with active carbonation and a finger of off-white head. Decent retention and thin lacing.

Smell: The usuual suspects. A bit of apple and bready yeast up front, followed by a big blast of brown sugar/pineapple malt. Simple, but pleasant.

Taste/Mouthfeel: The mouthfeel is very good, full, but the zesty carbonation keeps it lively and dare I say a bit crisp? The flavor isn't quite as interesting. It's smooth and tasty--sweet, malty, bready, a bit roasty--but pretty straightforward otherwise.

Drinkability: Fot a 7%+ brew, very. It tastes good, the alcohol is very well concealed, and the carbonation makes it seem much lighter than it is.

Again, nothing really stands out about this bock, but there's certainly nothing unpleasant about it either. Simple, but solid.

Serving type: bottle

06-21-2004 17:01:04 | More by WetCoaster
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JMD

Connecticut

3.78/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Deep mahogany color with small off white that fades quickly. Very little lacing.

S: Malty aroma, some carmel and dark fruits. A little too faint.

T: Malty and sweet. Hints of carmel and brown sugar. Some dark fruit flavors liek raisins and prunes. Alcohol is slightly present as it warms.

M: Medium to full bodied with little carbonation.

D: This lager has good flavor, but I couldn't drink more than one or 2 of these because of the sweetness.

Serving type: bottle

02-17-2010 23:18:44 | More by JMD
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Kraken

Maryland

3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes. Consumed 2/17/09

Poured from a 12oz bottle into an oversized wine glass. Firm pour calls fourth 1/4 inch of head that fizzles somewhat quickly. Moderate lace. Color is a deep dark brown, cola colored. Very pretty.

Nose- Some alcohol, plums, raisins, and some light coco. As it warms the nose really develops. Fairly subtle.

Palate- Excellent, Deep caramels, coco, bakers chocolate. Some light sweetness, dates and raisins. Alcohol is very well hidden. Very good.

Mouthfeel- Finishes short and dry. Not as heavy as it looks.

Drinkability- Excellent.

Serving type: bottle

07-07-2009 02:57:05 | More by Kraken
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d5001986

Wisconsin

3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

11-15-2012 23:57:36 | More by d5001986
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AtrumAnimus

Texas

3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This good draft was very malty. The nose was also very fruity and sweet. the mouthfeel was nice and somewhat watery. The head a bit to be desired. Overall a drinkable beer. Though not a great beer. I still enjoy this one every now and then but it is a middle of the road beer for me.

Serving type: on-tap

01-23-2003 11:19:43 | More by AtrumAnimus
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snpub540

California

3.33/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured a deep amber color out of the bottle. Some scarlet in there when held up to light. There was an off white thin ring of bubbles that topped it all off. Not a whole lot of lacing.

Aromas were pretty subtle. A little nuttiness from the malts but not a whole lot else going on there.

My tastebuds picked up a little toasted maltiness as well as a little diacetyl taste. Hops were a little spicy and they balanced out the sweetness in the finish. There is also a hint of warm alcohol in the end as well.

The mouthfeel was light and it left a dry aftertaste that was only quenched by another sip of the beer. Drinkability is good because the alcohol is not aggressive at all. I would have another.

Serving type: bottle

10-02-2007 23:07:09 | More by snpub540
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CMW

Missouri

3.45/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The pour yields a dark almost amber color with a nice thick head of around 2 inches. After just a few seconds the brew settles and gives you the perfect trace of head to accompany the darkness of the beer. The smell is roasted malt with a hint of caramel.

The taste is thick and full flavored but very smooth. Many different tastes come to mind. Roasted malt and hops are the first things to hit the taste buds. As I savor the drink a little more I taste hints of chocolate and fruit. There is a slight bitterness in the aftertaste but it finishes dry.

Serving type: on-tap

01-27-2009 20:01:01 | More by CMW
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disemgrowler

Rhode Island

3.5/5  rDev -10%

01-05-2012 00:34:17 | More by disemgrowler
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Beric

Illinois

3.5/5  rDev -10%

06-01-2013 11:54:53 | More by Beric
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majorbase2

Wisconsin

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

09-09-2013 19:54:09 | More by majorbase2
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Keananmichael5

California

3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

03-17-2014 18:08:57 | More by Keananmichael5
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NuclearDolphin

Minnesota

3.3/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a pint glass

Appearance - Clear, dark fiery red with tons of carbonation rising up. Head is a dirty white/brown color with a soapy appearance

Smell - Caramel, Yeasts, Malts and Barley. The smell has a very strong, penetrating quality to it, as the smell seems to go right into your sinuses which feels rather strange. Aside from that, it smells decent

Taste - Caramel, Roasted Malts, Toffee, Yeasts and Barley. It's not as strong as the flavor, but it still tastes rather sweet. The aftertaste is quite strange, with a burnt malt/burnt barley flavor; tastes kind of ashy.

Mouthfeel - Moderate body weight with a moderate carbonation feel. It's crisp feeling, but not what I would call smooth. Still, it's easy to drink and that's what really counts

Overall - I was expecting more from Optimator, in terms of flavor and smell. Had the aftertaste not been so dry and ashy, I would've been more impressed.

Serving type: bottle

06-23-2012 00:54:21 | More by NuclearDolphin
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craigmj7

Kansas

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

02-23-2013 18:19:51 | More by craigmj7
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xbrettfavrex

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-21-2013 03:04:42 | More by xbrettfavrex
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RenoZymurgist

Nevada

2.78/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Poured a clear, deep red beer with a thin off-white head that wouldn't retain itself even when i swirled the last bit of beer in the bottle then dumped it into the glass. Aroma is of rich sweet dark caramel and no sulfur to be detected means the lager yeast was treated correctly. The taste is an initial blend of deep caramel sweetness, munich malt roastiness, and a subtle noble hop bitterness which segues to an even malt flavor and finishes with a touch of anise, more malt flavor, and an alcoholic warmth. Mouthfeel leaves a bit to be desired however as it dosent lend a smoothness to the beer. The carbonation is artifical and it leaves a harsh carbonic bite which i dislike in a lager. Overall not too drinkable as the higer alcohol isn't compensated by smoothness and the beer dosen't lend itself to truly exemplify the rich body of the Bock style.

Serving type: bottle

10-27-2004 19:30:03 | More by RenoZymurgist
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jopezu

Georgia

4/5  rDev +2.8%

09-26-2013 20:59:25 | More by jopezu
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scottg

Vermont

4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

Pours a dark brown color with garnet hues and a thin tan head that dissipates quickly. Aromas of molasses and grains. Up front flavors of malasses and caramel with some light coffe flavor leading to a stone fruit and raisin middle with a strong malty aftertaste. Medium body and carbonation, this is a mouth cleansing beer. Very smooth, easy drinking dopplebock.

Serving type: bottle

11-10-2008 20:05:51 | More by scottg
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
87 out of 100 based on 2,392 ratings.