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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,590 Ratings
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Ratings: 2,590
Reviews: 1,267
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 63
Gots: 174 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999)
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Photo of AmericanGothic
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a Sam Adams pint.

A: Pours a dark, translucent copper brown color with 1/2 finger of tan head. Some retention and lace.

S: Malty caramel, light floral notes and some buttercream.

T: Spicy caramel up front slowly transforms into peppery molasses. Long, lingering finish. Faint coffee in the slightly sweet aftertaste. Light herbal/floral notes emerge as the beer warms.

M: Smooth, not too heavy, carbonation has a gentle, creamy feel.

O: A solid doppelbock, tasty and quite drinkable, widely available and reasonably priced. Not my top pick, but one I would likely buy again.

AmericanGothic, Sep 03, 2011
Photo of buzzed
4/5  rDev +2.8%

buzzed, Sep 29, 2012
Photo of hoegaardenhero
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

the beer is a nice mahogany with a little bit of off-white head sticky head. it smells pretty fragrant with nice darker malts, some coffee flavors, hints of hoppy bitterness. it tastes of sweet dark roasted malts with some very smokey flavors. there are also hints of tobacco and other herbs. light hop bitterness kicks in during the lingering finish of the sip. the beer is thick and a little on the syrupy side (not for the style) but smooth. a real good indicator of the style. it has all of the smokey malty flavors you want with no excess. kind of the ur-doppel.

hoegaardenhero, Jan 24, 2008
Photo of brewmudgeon
3.78/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

dark brown/mahogany, not as dark as some brown ales. short head fades to a ring, leaving scant lace
smell is sweet malts, caramel, and dark brownies
taste much like the smell, but the chocolate is less brownie and more baker's chocolate. sweetness builds toward the bottom of the bottle.
body is on the full side of medium, low to moderate carbonation (much better than what i had on tap)
this beer seems not very complex but highly drinkable, though maybe a bit too sweet to have more than one or two.

brewmudgeon, Sep 12, 2008
Photo of ezperkins2
3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

ezperkins2, Oct 18, 2012
Photo of Dmann
4.6/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Now this is some good shit! I have heard a lot about this beer and other Doppelbocks but since I'm such a hop-head, I usualy pass them up when it comes time to go to the store. I will pass them no more. This poured a great brownish color with great head that settled on top till the last drop. The smell was filled with toffee and carmel. The flavor was out of this world with a great carmel taste and just a touch of hops in the end to round it all out. For an import macro, this is about as good as it gets.

Dmann, Nov 28, 2003
Photo of BigBarley
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

BigBarley, Oct 22, 2012
Photo of Oboogie
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Oboogie, Dec 05, 2011
Photo of Leschber
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Leschber, Mar 13, 2012
Photo of wakajawaka76
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%

wakajawaka76, May 30, 2012
Photo of AtrumAnimus
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This good draft was very malty. The nose was also very fruity and sweet. the mouthfeel was nice and somewhat watery. The head a bit to be desired. Overall a drinkable beer. Though not a great beer. I still enjoy this one every now and then but it is a middle of the road beer for me.

AtrumAnimus, Jan 23, 2003
Photo of blakelive784
3.08/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

11.2 fl oz bottle served in a pint glass:
A - Pours an incredibly dark ruby/amber color that's transparent when held to the light. It has a soapy head of 2 fingers, and retention is solid.

S - Strong malty goodness, cotton candy, and fruity esters abound. Medium strength.

T - Full malt foundation gives way to candy, fruity and peppery notes. Finishes with a nice ethanol bite. Not as yeasty as the nose predicted, but built well for the style. I wish it had a bit more character though.

M - Nearly full bodied, slick and smooth, Carbonated rather highly. Contradicts the flavors.

D - A good beer within the style, but I think it lacks character. I'd have it again, but certainly not a go-to.

blakelive784, Dec 04, 2011
Photo of Beric
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Beric, Jun 01, 2013
Photo of scaliasux
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - Dark brown with maybe a little red. Looks clear, but hard to tell with beer as dark as this. Thin tan persistent head.

Smell - Strong dark malt aroma. Prominent molasses, maybe caramel scent. I don't notice any hoppiness. Smells tasty.

Taste - Strong dark malt flavor. Molasses, raisin, toast flavors. Little hops. A little alcohol warming. Tasty and interesting.

Mouthfeel - Medium to full.

Drinkability - I'm a doppelbock lover and this is a fine doppelbock. It has a nice interesting full flavor like a doppelbock should have and plenty of alcohol so you don't drink too many.

scaliasux, Nov 04, 2008
Photo of SteveO1231
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Grabbed a brown bottle of the Optimator.

Poured a dark drown with a thick ass foamy head.

Light malty aroma, I can smell the alcohol.

Thick as hell!, almost a chewy texture. Big caramel malt sweetness of followed by a mild bitterness.

I can taste and feel the alcohol as I drink.

Not my most favorite Dopplebock.

SteveO1231, Dec 02, 2005
Photo of wo87810
4/5  rDev +2.8%

wo87810, May 29, 2012
Photo of ScottieD
3.5/5  rDev -10%

ScottieD, Jul 17, 2013
Photo of Antonius08
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Antonius08, Dec 30, 2011
Photo of Gaisgeil
3.65/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This one pours a deep and clear amber with an ample tan toned head.

Nose is quite malty with an odd spicy overtone to it, maybe even a bit smokey. Taste is much more robust than many, very dark and roasted but with a fruit overtone to it, figs, a bit of grape, raisin. Body is heavy for the style but quite smooth. This is quite sessionable too despite the ABV, which hides itself well.

Something I may pick up on occasion if the mood strikes.


Gaisgeil, Mar 02, 2005
Photo of ElijahRivera
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

ElijahRivera, Apr 10, 2013
Photo of orangemoustache
4.15/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A-deep dark reddish transparency,with a very light brown inch of head,with little to no lacing

S-fruit,dripping in syrup(like fruit cocktail,but with quality dark fruits)lots of sweetness in this one,and a hint of roasted malts

T-my mouth is in amazement,this thing is like a pancake breakfast on a sunday morning like only your grandma could make! The maple syrup is the first thing I am reminded of ,and after that wonderful overwhelming sweetness,you can taste a doughy buckwheat pancake that is only as great as the syrup dripping from your chin,time for a swig of creamy hazelnut coffee(oohh yeah,thats in there too)

M-wonderful,thick,very creamy,and heavy!!!

D-I dont mind the heaviness of this one,it was my first dopplebock, in my opinion two or three if the time was right!

orangemoustache, Dec 13, 2007
Photo of jadpsu
3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bought in 6-pick in Laurel, MS.
Pours a dark red, looking like a Red Ale. Has a tan head that has average retention, fading to some thin lacing.
Raisen, caramel and toasty malts are strongest at the start.
Some sharp twangy hops appear in the mouth along with some lively carbonation.
Started out with some sweet maltiness, finshed with some acedic hoppiness, while the 7.6% ABV creates a warming effect.

jadpsu, Jul 28, 2013
Photo of artemh
4/5  rDev +2.8%

artemh, Oct 14, 2013
Photo of TwoTrees
4/5  rDev +2.8%

TwoTrees, Jul 30, 2013
Photo of Flashyspoons
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Flashyspoons, Mar 02, 2013
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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