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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,539 Ratings
very good

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Ratings: 2,539
Reviews: 1,264
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 64
Gots: 154 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999)
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

hmmmbeer10, Jun 03, 2014
Photo of artemh
4/5  rDev +2.8%

artemh, Oct 14, 2013
Photo of dwtyler
4/5  rDev +2.8%

dwtyler, Nov 03, 2012
Photo of Toddv29424
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer pours a dark brown color with a minimal head. It effervesces for a long time, and establishes little points on the side of the glass where it keeps moving bubbling from. The smell is predominantly of dark malts, much like other German beers of the same vein. The taste also has lots of malts. It doesn't take a definitive shape until about half way through, but when it does it tastes like many German bocks with a heavy consistency and a light carbonation that takes the load off your tongue. A good beer, although I feel like it fails to differentiate itself from many like it.

Toddv29424, Nov 23, 2006
Photo of musicforairports
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown, one-finger head goes fast and leaves minimal lacing.

Smells like thick caramel malts, notes of raisins, grapes, alcohol. Kind of smells like a Scotch ale to me, actually.

Taste is sweet caramel malt at first and other fig and raisin malt characteristics come in the middle. Finishes with burnt caramel notes. Relatively complex.

Mouthfeel is slightly creamy.

This isn't the best doppelbock out there, but it's a really good one. And the fact that it's not priced like a specialty beer at all--cheaper than good American crafts around here--make this a go-to of the style.

musicforairports, Jul 17, 2011
Photo of scaliasux
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - Dark brown with maybe a little red. Looks clear, but hard to tell with beer as dark as this. Thin tan persistent head.

Smell - Strong dark malt aroma. Prominent molasses, maybe caramel scent. I don't notice any hoppiness. Smells tasty.

Taste - Strong dark malt flavor. Molasses, raisin, toast flavors. Little hops. A little alcohol warming. Tasty and interesting.

Mouthfeel - Medium to full.

Drinkability - I'm a doppelbock lover and this is a fine doppelbock. It has a nice interesting full flavor like a doppelbock should have and plenty of alcohol so you don't drink too many.

scaliasux, Nov 04, 2008
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3.6/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer pours almost black with some red showing through. The aroma is chocolate, anise, and roasted malt. It's flavor begins with chocolate with molasses, coffee, and finishes with dark chocolate, very well balanced. It's mouthfeel is medium-full. Spaten Optimator is a very good beer, filling yet satisfying. A good representation of the style. Highly recommended!

B967ierhunter177, Apr 11, 2011
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

JSkone09, Nov 22, 2011
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

MisledTitan, Sep 14, 2014
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

xbrettfavrex, Nov 21, 2013
Photo of sinistrsam
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Brown-red color with a medium head.

Smell: Aroma was mild, but had hints of malt and hops.

Taste: The taste was bitter and had a lot of flavor, and finished sweet. Very pleasurable.

Mouthfeel: Mild carbonation. Finished crisp and refreshing.

I most certainly need to try more Doppelbocks but enjoyed this one very much.

sinistrsam, Oct 24, 2005
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

akinsja, Nov 27, 2011
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3.5/5  rDev -10%

SicemWT, Oct 30, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

jhhollier, Aug 19, 2012
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

crownrl28, Jun 07, 2014
Photo of SpecialK088
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Had on tap at old Chicago

A-rich brown in color. About a one-finger head on the pour. The head retention is good.

S- sweet maple syrup brown sugar small roasted nutiness. Earthy hop character.

T- very earthy hops and malts. Warming due to alcohol content very toasty and nutty. The finish is boozy but not overbearing.

M&D- thin consistancy for a dopplebock, but overall medium bodied and very smooth and complex. Carbonation is solid and an easy drinking 7.5 percent

This is my fiances first review ever I think she did damn well

SpecialK088, Mar 05, 2010
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

jcb7472, Jun 23, 2014
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3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

d5001986, Nov 15, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -10%

Beric, Jun 01, 2013
Photo of dbalsock
3.68/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a deep reddish brown, almost purple with a one finger head (at most) and seems to be highly carbonated.

Smell: Molasses and brown sugar immediately hit the nose, followed with a hint of lager yeast. A little chocolate and coffe followed by cherries make for the feel of a dan cake.

Taste: I immediately noticed the alcohol, which is rather unpleasant, but soon the coffee, chocolate and molasses take over; making this a very rich and sweet brew. The molasses and alcohol appear again in the aftertaste, but improve as it warms. I think I like this at room temperature better than cooler or even fridge cool (boo).

Mouthfeel: This is very heavily bodied with good carbonation, but the alcohol gives it the feel of a malt liquor. The layering is quite nice, especially by the aftertaste as it starts strong, but ends kinda soft.

Drinkability: I found this beer incredibly easy to review: the aromas and taste were clearly distinct and very intense. Also, I imagine it to be great with desserts and red meat.

dbalsock, Aug 08, 2006
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4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

edwardkersh, Jan 17, 2012
Photo of AtrumAnimus
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This good draft was very malty. The nose was also very fruity and sweet. the mouthfeel was nice and somewhat watery. The head a bit to be desired. Overall a drinkable beer. Though not a great beer. I still enjoy this one every now and then but it is a middle of the road beer for me.

AtrumAnimus, Jan 23, 2003
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4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

this glugs out a deep dark ruby color with minimal head. aroma of big sweet malt, caramels, raisins and just all out sweetness come up swingin. upon first sip you realizes how filling and big this beer is. huge sweet malt is overpowering. raisins, toffees and alcohol kick eachother in the nuts and all fall down letting the huge malt once again be the star. a semi thick slightly sticky yet smooth mouthfeel round everthing out. this is def. a belt buster and is a great beer to warm up with. awesome.

$5.99 a 6 pack.

DESTRO, Dec 03, 2003
Photo of diamondc
4.28/5  rDev +10%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A = deep dark scarlet, hmm, hardly any head or lace.

S = chocolate & mocha right away right when I pried the cap off. whipped cream. also getting a fried food type smell, unusual but intriguing. some banana sundae too.

T = root beer float flavors.. vanilla, chocolate, coconut, toffee, subtle hop flavor in the background.

M = briskly carbonated, very chewy mouthfeel.

D = kind of threw me off with the heavy aroma, but I'm really digging it with some dark chocolate. one pint is gonna do me just fine for the rest of the night.

diamondc, May 10, 2008
Photo of beerprovedwright
4.05/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured to a one finger head of light brown color with a velvet like head. The head was not long lasting, evaporating after about forty seconds. The lace around the glass is thick, but has no clinging power. Smells like nothing discernable, just a little sweet flowery aroma. OOOO the taste is nothing like the smell. Reminds me of licorice, something like Jagermeister, but missing the big kick. Color is a 29 on the SRM Beer Color Chart, but the color is not reprehensive of the flavor. The flavor is rich and mellow, with a hint of sweetness. The licorice really comes through, with a wave of sweet hops. There is very little bitterness although there is a definite flavor or hops. This is a beer that I would spend hard earned cash to drink.

beerprovedwright, Aug 18, 2010
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
87 out of 100 based on 2,539 ratings.