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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,635 Ratings
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Ratings: 2,635
Reviews: 1,270
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.6%
Wants: 63
Gots: 191 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

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Photo of drxandy
3.68/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz to standard pint, pours a reddish brown, clarity is high (filtered), head fades

smells of heavy malts, slight appley alcohol, bready

taste is bitter, heavy, malts hit in, roasty, hop load overtakes everything, alcohol present, way drinkable, pleasant flavor - lighter than most of the dopplebock's i've had in the past

mouthfeel is heavy, bitter, a flavorful offering, slightly creamy, delicious! i would buy again since the price point is low :D

drxandy, Jun 18, 2008
Photo of brett606
3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

brett606, Jul 06, 2013
Photo of TheBierBand
4.68/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

OK... I've previously reviewd this as served on tap. But I recently purchased a case to have on hand at home.

The 12 oz green bottle poured into a pint glass seemed so small when compared to the normal serving I enjoy at Mecklenburg Gardens in Cincinnati (1 Big ol' Litre!). But it poured nicely producing a 1" head of frothy beige foam. The color was dark brown... very dark.

I sniffed the edge of the glass to catch the aroma of chocolate sweetness with some fruity character... perhaps spiced prunish. It seemed more hoppy than as served on tap and also a bit more carbonated, but not overly so. Actually very well balanced.

The mouthfeel was smooth. Very nice without a hoppy bite. The aftertaste leaves a sweetness in your mouth for a long time!

Drinkability is excellent with this strong Dopplebock. This is and probably will remain as my preferred Bock. I might be in the minority, but I prefer this one over Celebrator... although, I've never had Celebrator on tap.

TheBierBand, Jan 09, 2007
Photo of jkn09
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%

jkn09, Feb 08, 2013
Photo of BeerBob
4.38/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Optimator pours a extremely dark red that looks just as black as coal with a casual glance. The tan head formed a good three fingers, then leaves lace down the side of the glass as the Brew is consumed, for a picture perfect presentation.

Nose of burnt malt and fig, with whiffs of alcohol. Palate is a yummy sweet burnt malt, light in character, not syrupy. Also present are notes of coffee, fig, and caramel.

Optimator could easily become just about anyones number one or two favorite Beer of style.

BeerBob, Sep 21, 2002
Photo of Sycodrummer
2.2/5  rDev -43.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

After reading the reviews here i thought i would enjoy this one as i enjoy others of the same style. Recents had a 5oz. sampler of it at Sunset Grill and Tap and I'm glad it was only 5oz.

The appearance looks great; a nice copper/dark brown with a thick one finger head that lasted the entire serving

Smell was okay, a little off what i expected, smelled a bit sweet and some caramel as well.

Taste was not good, at first could not quite detect what it reminded me of then i realized it was molasses. I very thin but similairly flavored type of molasses, almost tempted not to finish it.

Mouthfell was close to the taste, a thin molasses that if left to long on the palate became almost "un-swallowable"

Drinkablity was nearly impossible, i finished the 5oz but it was indeed a chore, will not have again any time soon and can't in good conscience recommend this brew

Sycodrummer, Dec 14, 2004
Photo of DioS
4/5  rDev +2.8%

DioS, Aug 28, 2012
Photo of ScottieD
3.5/5  rDev -10%

ScottieD, Jul 17, 2013
Photo of velosuds
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 16.9 oz bottle into a clear pint glass. No freshness date apparent. Paid $2.29 on sale at local grocer. Normally sells for $2.99.

A-Pours a medium chestnut brown with a one + finger light tan head that recedes quickly leaving only scant lacing.

S-Somewhat subdued but roasted and caramel malts with a slight chocolate aroma.

T-Malty sweetness followed by the balancing bitterness of the hops finished with a nutty-chocolate flavor reminiscent of chocolate covered cherries.

M-Tad harsh from over carbonation.

D-This is my first Doppelbock and although good, it was not especially impressive.

velosuds, Oct 16, 2010
Photo of DrGonzoDDS
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

DrGonzoDDS, Mar 10, 2012
Photo of whatthehull
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4


A - Dark mahogany, half finger tan head and a bit of head lacing

S - Bready yeast, huge malts, nice earthy toned hop, sugar, slight fruit, lots of pilsner smell, sugar and more yeast

T - Huge malts sweet and bitter, German pilsner hops, foliage, soil, wood, wine grapes, very dark fruits, very sweet bready yeast and a nice very slight booze

M - Medium body, low acidity, nice balance, decent complexity and a well rounded, very smooth and long sweet finish

D/O - Very refreshing, tons of taste, nothing over the top. just the right amount of everything. Well made. One of my favorite German beers and I am not a German beer fan

Final thought - $2 a pop and a very nice 7+% abv. Give this one a ride

whatthehull, Jun 02, 2012
Photo of cambabeer
4/5  rDev +2.8%

cambabeer, Jun 06, 2013
Photo of beerbtl
3.5/5  rDev -10%

beerbtl, Jun 28, 2013
Photo of LouDogg114
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

LouDogg114, Jan 14, 2012
Photo of jar2574
4.13/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours ruby black with red tints if held up to the light. Decent sized cream colored head that dissolves slowly. Smells good, malty sweetness. Great taste. Malts, roasted without being burnt, and a slight hint of raisin sweetness. Creamy without being thick. A full, refreshing, smooth mouthfeel. Good level of carbonation. Fairly high alcohol content but you wouldn't know it. Very drinkable for this style. Could have several. A very good beer.

jar2574, Feb 14, 2011
Photo of josefnewsong
4/5  rDev +2.8%

josefnewsong, Dec 05, 2011
Photo of mobyfann
3.58/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Paid $2.09 for a 500mL bottle.

The appearence is a beautiful amber lager type base with a fluffy thick light-brown head that lasts for a few minutes, then fades. The lacing is pretty evident but not too much... The aroma hints of something sweet and something of a grain, that's about it.

The taste is pretty sweet with touches of malt, nothing supreme, maybe a bit to much sweetness??? The mouthfeel is pretty nice for a 7.2% bock bier and the drinkability is also good as I enjoyed this very much.

Final Thought: Like most German biers, this one fits in with the crowd, especially the Spaten-Franziskaner crowd. Prost!

mobyfann, Jun 16, 2004
Photo of Mavajo
3.25/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown slightly opaque with hints of red. Off-white head with decent retention and lacing. Aroma is pretty much just malt - taste brings a bit more to the table, but not much...slight hints of caramel or nuttiness. All in all, both taste and aroma are a bit weak. They're not bad, but not particularly interesting. Mouthfeel is likewise underwhelming - too thin. Carbonation is okay, but a bit more might help. Drinkability is good.

Mavajo, Jan 01, 2010
Photo of stevehagy
4/5  rDev +2.8%

stevehagy, Sep 17, 2014
Photo of jdkitchi
4/5  rDev +2.8%

jdkitchi, Nov 20, 2013
Photo of SWMeyer4141
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I used to feel so cool drinking this beer years ago, thinking this was as hardcore as it gets. 7.6% alcohol, it's not fizzy and yellow, and its from Munich. After drinking one for the first time in a while, this beer is still badass.

Appearance-At first looked like a very dark brown, but after going into a lighed room It's more of a dark amber. 2 inches of creamy tan head that leaves a ton of nice lacing.

Smell-Toasted Malt with some caramel. Definitely picked out the prune being that I eat 2 a day. A nice combo of sweet and smokey as well.

Taste-I remember this taste completely. At first you pick up the Malts and Caramel w/ some nutty characteristics, followed by some sweetness, and finsih with prunes that stay on your tongue for a while.

Mouthfeel-Very well carbonated, Medium bodied, good feel.

Overall-I want to leave room for improvement right now because I have a special bond with this beer, and with all the dopplebock talk lately I wanted to grab this and a Salvator(which I may drink next). But for the price, this beer is outstanding and highly underrated.

SWMeyer4141, Apr 29, 2011
Photo of Chrixsus
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Chrixsus, May 21, 2012
Photo of Beric
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Beric, Jun 01, 2013
Photo of xbrettfavrex
4/5  rDev +2.8%

xbrettfavrex, Nov 21, 2013
Photo of bushbeer75
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a mug

Spaten Optimator poured a clear reddish brown color with a bubbly 1-finger light tan head that fades slowly leaving behind a ring of foam.

Aroma is of toasted malt and little hops. Taste is of sweet toasted malt, a little nutty, and a slight chocolate flavor with light hops thrown-in to keep the taste balanced. Optimator has a medium body with medium carbonation and smooth on the palate.

This is my favorite Doppelbock to date and my favorite brew from Spaten.

bushbeer75, Sep 08, 2009
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
88 out of 100 based on 2,635 ratings.