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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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Ratings: 2,709
Reviews: 1,282
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 68
Gots: 232 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

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Photo of pburland23
4.17/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into my Gaffel Kolsch glass.

Appearance: Beer pours a cola colored brown with about two fingers of off white head. No lacing and not much in the realm of head retention either

Smell: Lots of grassiness and sweet malts. Touch of molasses.

Taste: Really nice tasting doppelbock. Sweet malt is the dominating flavor but it's well balanced and not overpowering. Little hint of bittersweet chocolate on the tail end. Smooth and full of flavor

Mouthfeel: The mouthfeel is full bodies. Not a lot of carbonation but it works. At 7.2% it's not sessionable but the alcohol isn't noticeable.

Overall: I love a good doppelbock and Optimator fits the bill. A malt lover's dream.

Photo of stella77artois
4.38/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle poured into Weizen glass.

As a long time fan of Spaten Original and being a fan in general of Bock's and Doppelbocks, I naturally wanted to try this. Unfortunately, no local stores carry it. Was lucky enough to find some across the lake in VT.

A - Average looking doppelbock. A very dark red-brown, slightly lighter in the light. A very thin off-white head which dissipated quickly, but left some residual. No carbonation noticed.

S - Not a whole lot here. Lot's of malt, some caramel and a general creaminess. A nice smell, just a little on the light side.

T - Damn, this tastes good. A very good representation of a bock. Malt and caramel noticed in the taste as well. Also some toffee, and even some cinnamon. A very creamy and malty taste, without the huge amount of sweetness that many bocks carry. A very, very good taste beer.

F - This is where the beer seperates itself. This is one of the more drinkable bocks. Don't get me wrong, I do greatly enjoy the thickness and feel and a normal doppelbock, but sometimes it can get a little heavy. Not the case here. Still a thick and powerful feeling beer, but a lot of carbonation was felt on the tongue, and the beer wasn't as heavy feeling. First doppelbock I've tried that I consider crisp.

O - A damn good doppelbock. Plenty of taste, not so heavy that you can't drink a few. Highly recommend this beer to any bock fans, or anyone who enjoys dark lagers in general.

Photo of Sinewave
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

Photo of Loveyourbeer
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Photo of mquinn919
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of canders0927
1.5/5  rDev -61.4%

Photo of DoubleMalt
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of markdrinksbeer
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of iceball585
3.7/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Dark reddish brown color, semi-transparent, this white creamy head that lasted well

S- Very malty, dark fruits, alcohol, bit of hops

T- Roasted malts, caramel, dark fruits, alcohol, bready, slightly burnt taste

M- Medium weight, low/medium carbonation, smooth, warming feeling of alcohol throughout

D- Definatly good but couldn't drink too many

The alcohol in this beer will definatly creep up on you if you're not careful.

Photo of ElijahRivera
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of yokken
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Photo of Beric
3.5/5  rDev -10%

Photo of Kingcurio
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of sacfly
3.71/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz, no fresh date
Pours a deep red color with a thick tan head of small bubbles. Aroma is all malt. Caramel candy. Taste is caramel candy with a slight burnt quality. The burnt/charred flavor comes out stronger in the aftertaste. Not overly sweet like some bocks can be. Medium to full body. As it warms, the alcohol becomes more noticeable in the aroma and taste. Standard, by the book bock. Nothing earth shattering, but easy to drink and representative of the style.

Photo of brett606
3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

Photo of grayburn
4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is the doppelbock that is easiest for me to find here in south carolina, and a nice example of the stlye.

She pours a burnt amber color with a one finger head. The head falls rather quickly but leaves some decent lacing.

The smell is all bready malts, you can really tell that this is the legendary liquid bread. There is some warm alcohol mixed in with the bready malt.

The taste is the same, thick and chewy. This beer really is a meal. I would glady fast for a bit with this by my side. Very bready.

The mouthfeel is huge and chewy, bordering cloying sweetness. Nice.

I could drink more of these than any other version of the style that I have had so far, very nice beer.

Photo of Jack_Frost79
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of jaluria
3.58/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appeared opaque and almost black in color with a tan colored head that was thick and left behind a touch of lacing. Aromas of dark fruits, roasted nuts, and malt were detectable. The taste was sweet with a blending of malt flavors with fruit undertones. Somewhat chewy and viscous in my mouth. Not as flavorful or as complex as others in this style, but still a good beer. I wouldn't want another one for some time.

Photo of nasty15108
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A - Poured dark brown, almost black with slight ruby edges. Thick head of slightly off-white foam subsides into a spotty film with thick soapy lacing throughout.

S - Malt, chocolate and ripe fruit.

T - More of the same. Malty and slightly sweet with the flavor of chocolate covered raisins.

MF&D - Chewy with a creamy feel to it. Goes down nice, I'd love one of these with a good cigar!

Photo of Portertime
3.97/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer was a little thin for a doppelbock but had a pretty decent taste. I had it chilled in my Warsteiner mug. Poured a deep milk chocolate brown with not much head. Aroma was of slight chocolate and some brewed coffee notes. Taste was thin but pretty complex with a good balance of chocolate malts with some mocha and bittering hops in the background. If I ran out of bread I would have no problem imbibing this Lenten beer.

Photo of cj8311
3/5  rDev -22.9%

Photo of mnrider
3.86/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. Green Bottle. Pry-Off. Some numbers on bottom of the bottle.

A: Pours a nice dark brown with a creamy off-white head. Nice retention with adequate lacing.

S: A mixture of malts and hops. The high alcohol of the beer comes through in the aroma.

T/M: Nice malty caramel. On the toasted side. Herbal hops try to balance as an alcohol taste comes in. Goes down smooth and finishes on the dry side.

O: A solid Doppelbock. Good taste, high ABV and easy to drink.


Photo of xgrigorix
3.46/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Twelve ounce green bottle - no dates.

Deep chestnut brown, dense off white head.

Caramel malt aromas, along with some faint vauge hop notes.

Plenty of malty caramel goodness. A touch of dark fruit, and subtle hints of chocolate. Herbal / grassy hops lead to a dry finish. Medium bodied, modereate carbonation.

Photo of depechemode1983
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown in color with deep red hues when held to the light. The head is a thick light brown foam with a frothiness to it. Retention is excellent and lacing is decent. The nose is very sweet. Lots of light toasted malts, maple syrup, caramel, and brown sugar in the aroma. Still there is an upfront brown sugar sweetness only this time with a more pronounced toasted grain character. Hops balance through the middle and take it to a bitter/sweet finish. Full bodied and soft on the palate. Carbonation is done right and feels refined. Extremely tasty, affordable, and available. This one is worthy.

Photo of BamaBeerBuff
3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: A brilliant body the color of dark cherry stained wood with a massive caramel-colored head that leaves a wonderful little Mount Fuji of foam sticking up in the middle of the glass on its way down. Nice rings of sudsy lace all the way down. My roommate commented on the thick, meringue-like head as I was leaving the kitchen after the initial pour.

S: Dark fruit, some grainy malt aromas, and a hint of alcohol. Not quite bready, definitely more of an astringent, harsh grain aroma. Quality nose on this one.

T&M: Malty flavor is balanced with some bitterness on the back end, before giving way to a finish reminiscent of burnt brown sugar and some booziness. Perhaps a bit too dry for my liking, as well. I feel like there's more opportunity for complexity and boldness here, but it's missing out. As far as mouthfeel, I've got no major complaints--it's a medium bodied beer with a moderate level of fine-bubbled carbonation.

D: It can be a tad on the boozy side, but it's still fairly drinkable. A decent substitute for Celebrator, I suppose, but I'd much prefer the alternative from Brauerei Aying.

Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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