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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,443 Ratings
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Ratings: 2,443
Reviews: 1,260
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 55
Gots: 115 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

05-23-2014 04:00:15 | More by Getalegup
Photo of doppelmeup

North Carolina

3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had this in a pilsener glass. It poured with a nice dark, garnet color and about a half inch head. It was really cold coming from my refrigerator, so I let it warm to before I drank it. I tried one another time and it was too cold, which really affected the taste.

Nice sweet, malty aroma. Not much hoppiness.

Taste was sweet as the style goes. It felt heavy in the mouth and had a lingering sweetness, which tended to stay around a bit too long.

Not as good as Celebrator, but also about half the price. I'd buy it again.

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2005 14:26:44 | More by doppelmeup
Photo of berserker256


4.3/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I poured it into a pint glass because I my 1 Liter Oktoberfest mug is dirty. This is one of my favorite types of beer so I'm going to show that in my review. The color is dark reddish brown with a moderate and lasting tannish head. It gives off an aroma of sweet roasted malt and quite a bit of alcohol. I taste a mild carmel-like sweetness with the warming sensation due to the higher-than-average alcohol content. Very nice. Not too overpowering. Just right. Smooth and perfectly carbonated. Very drinkable for a beer with a 7.2% alcohol content. Very good beer.

Serving type: bottle

10-08-2007 16:36:01 | More by berserker256
Photo of erz316


3.93/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

poured a couple of these guys into my huge new Spaten seidel!

A - a dark red brown color, like that of coke-classic, thick tan head with little or no lacing. as light shines through it, there are some nice ruby hues coming through.

S - the malt smell comes through like a good thick molasses, very pungent. there are some spicy alcohol notes as well. not very complicated, but still very attractive.

T - great roasted malt right up front, with some chocolate like bitterness. a very creamy smooth beer finish is a bit bitter, with some stronger coffee biterness. aftertaste is a light sweetness and roastedness of malts.

MF&D - a very thin beer, would have liked it thicker. too much like water in my case. the drinkability is fine, but the texture from the lack of viscosity is a bit off putting.

Serving type: bottle

01-30-2009 20:19:53 | More by erz316
Photo of berlinabb


3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

12-16-2013 21:54:25 | More by berlinabb
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

09-29-2012 17:47:27 | More by buzzed
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5/5  rDev +28.5%

11-26-2013 12:13:21 | More by Beergelden
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5/5  rDev +28.5%

11-12-2013 03:15:14 | More by spikechiquet
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

01-09-2013 22:10:32 | More by Stoutlad
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New York

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

02-12-2014 22:56:43 | More by Swaino
Photo of AtrumAnimus


3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This good draft was very malty. The nose was also very fruity and sweet. the mouthfeel was nice and somewhat watery. The head a bit to be desired. Overall a drinkable beer. Though not a great beer. I still enjoy this one every now and then but it is a middle of the road beer for me.

Serving type: on-tap

01-23-2003 11:19:43 | More by AtrumAnimus
Photo of Tayloraphilips


3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

08-16-2013 01:16:51 | More by Tayloraphilips
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-21-2013 03:04:42 | More by xbrettfavrex
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New York

4.33/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Finally tried this at the Hop Devil grill after seeing reviewed on BA as well as wanting to try something beyond the Spaten Munich.

A: Poured into a pint glass with thick 2 fingers khaki head, receding promplty to a cap that broke into a ring after a few quafs. Lacing comes with each shake of the pint and good but mild retention to my tongue.

S: Nose gave me rich chocolate and toasted malts and smoked hops.

T: Followed the nose closely with coco coming first but overlayed by big malt presence. Deteted an ester and ABV ensuring balance of taste does not get muddled.

M - Medium to light, low retention, with sublte sweet finish but again nothing pushes any other ingredient out of the way.

D: Having less than a dozen dobblebocks under my belt, I would say this one is not as sweet as a Troegenator and tarter and tighter in many aspects. Thinner and more complex in the style, I enjoyed and will pull for again.

Serving type: bottle

07-28-2008 17:46:08 | More by Brianmerrilyn
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3.58/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a nice mahogany color with a small white head sitting atop it. Some spotty lacing on the sides of the glass.

S: Hints of molasses and chocolate mixed in with some sweet malts and spiciness. Overall, not a very impressive aroma.

T: Lots of Munich malt flavor. Hints of molasses, caramel, and other nondescript grains. Good, but lacking in complexity.

M: Pretty clean with a medium body and some nice crispness from the carbonation.

D: A decent brew, but nothing to write home about. It lacks the "meal in a bottle" quality that I expect from a really good Doppelbock.

Serving type: on-tap

03-28-2010 04:42:17 | More by MrDanno96
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South Dakota

3.5/5  rDev -10%

11-20-2012 02:33:49 | More by Pacioli1445
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3.5/5  rDev -10%

06-01-2013 11:54:53 | More by Beric
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New Jersey

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

06-08-2014 15:30:23 | More by amano_h
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2.65/5  rDev -31.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Pours dark brownish black with plenty of ruby red highlights. Head is one-finger, white, and dissipated quickly. Lace is nonexistent.

Nose is of dark fruit and sweet malt. The sweetness is one part molasses and one part candy sugar, and it's a bit too much for my taste. Plums are the fruit that comes out the most, and they are definitely enjoyable.

Taste follows the nose pretty much exactly, with plums and figs making up the fruit profile, and a sugary sticky sweetness coming from the malt. It's a wee bit roasted, but not much. The beer is too sweet to me, and booze coming out at the tail end of sips doesn't help matters.

A medium body and prickly carbonation make for a decent combination in terms of mouthfeel, but I just dislike the dry finish combined with the sweetness in the taste. Drinkability is ok, but held back by the finish and alcohol - both the taste and abv components.

Serving type: bottle

05-04-2011 04:03:27 | More by madvermin
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4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip glass. Dark brown color with a fairly thick off-white head. Smell was malty as was the taste. A touch of caramel and hardly noticeable alcohol flavor. Very smooth feel.

I like this beer. It didn't blow my mind, but it was thoroughly enjoyable and despite approaching 8% it's very drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

08-29-2011 02:51:10 | More by TheRealBigC
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3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

11-15-2012 23:57:36 | More by d5001986
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-03-2012 03:14:48 | More by dwtyler
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

05-27-2014 02:48:27 | More by neil2me
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4.15/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Head is thick and fizzy, quite thick at first, creamy and uneven, and then subsides to a "don't give up" skim. Good lacing.

Body is very clear and the color of cherry wood.

Deep malty aroma, sweet with hints of caramel.

Has almost a barley-wine taste, burning, slightly chewy, rich, and slightly sour afterward.

A very pleasant beer. Taste becomes almost nutty as it warms up.

This was one of the first very dark beers that I ever tasted, many years ago, and I returned to it when I saw one sitting there, almost forlorn, on the single beer shelf. Perhaps a bit sweet for some, but a reliable and deep beer, full of character.

Serving type: bottle

06-01-2003 17:58:32 | More by Darkale
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3.65/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a chalice with only one finger head that was tan . Colors a deep dark brown with ruby hints. Aromas are faint and malty. Tastes malty in general a light chocolate flavor followed with some very faint fruitiness and alcohol spiciness. Feels good on the palate with a light tickling of carbonation and an oily finish. Overall a nice drinkable beer.

Serving type: bottle

01-11-2010 05:32:41 | More by jacobseyb
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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