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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,491 Ratings
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Ratings: 2,491
Reviews: 1,261
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 62
Gots: 139 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999)
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Photo of SometimesIfart


2.98/5  rDev -23.4%

Poured a transparent black, With a one finger head, Looks like a glass of Pepsi. the smell is of dark cherries, Cranberry fig newtons, And blueberries. Alright I guess, though I prefer nothing but the blueberries. the taste follows the smell, Except the cherry flavoring comes through a wee bit more. The mouthfeel matches both of the previous, And nothing else come's through. The beer was a large disappointment, Considering how highly my father and brother had talked about it

07-29-2012 00:13:44 | More by SometimesIfart
Photo of BeerDocT


4.13/5  rDev +6.2%

I'm seeing more and more German beers on sale as we get closer to October. All I have to say about that is, "prost!"

Poured into a wide-mouthed glass.

-Appearance 3.0: Dark brown in color when poured, almost black. Not much head at all and what little there was...you guessed it, disappeared quickly. Interesting soda-esque carbonation visible at the line of the beer.

-Smell 4.0: Nice, warm smell of toasted oats and barley and some hops. All of it smells very organic with no harsh notes. Smell is slight and not overpowering and adds to the enjoyment of the beer.

-Taste 4.5: Delicious. First taste is of nothing really, only noticing the carbonation, this is followed by a big burst of flavor: brown sugar and hops and toasted oats. The aftertaste is of toasted grains, with a slight, satisfying alcohol tinge. I have to imagine that this was the plan of the brewers. Delicious.

-Mouthfeel 3.5: The carbonation in this beer enhances the taste and the mouthfeel. Its mouthfeel is smooth, cool and almost creamy.

-Overall 4.0: An excellent beer that is enjoyable as a session beer and delicious with food. Its 7.6% ABV is something to watch out for, but is only slightly noticeable in the taste of the beer and even then is a taste I consider an enhancement, not a detriment. If you have never had this beer you need to try it.

$12.99 for a twelve pack in Atlanta, GA.

09-25-2011 03:09:01 | More by BeerDocT
Photo of Sarmartay


3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

05-14-2013 20:03:10 | More by Sarmartay
Photo of bigdaddypolite


5/5  rDev +28.5%

11-19-2011 03:15:27 | More by bigdaddypolite
Photo of angelmonster


4.03/5  rDev +3.6%

Pours a 1 finger tan head which faded kinda fast. Very dark brown in color with almost no lacing at all

Smells of sweet roasted malt, some chocolate, and raisins. Not much on the hop side

Taste is of slightly smoky roasted malt, some chocolate and raisins. Alcohol is hidden well for being a Doppelbock

Perfect amount of carbonation, smooth, medium bodied.

Great beer, full of flavors. Full bodied yet highly drinkable. Another high quality product from Spaten

01-17-2009 16:49:21 | More by angelmonster
Photo of ElijahRivera

New York

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

04-10-2013 19:40:36 | More by ElijahRivera
Photo of Rob315


4/5  rDev +2.8%

05-30-2013 13:38:05 | More by Rob315
Photo of Jimboe

3.5/5  rDev -10%

10-10-2012 18:52:28 | More by Jimboe
Photo of dwtyler


4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-03-2012 03:14:48 | More by dwtyler
Photo of curasowa

New York

4/5  rDev +2.8%

Appearance: Dark red with 1 finger of head that fades quickly to a ring with little lacing.

Aroma: Rich and sweet toasted malt with notes of chocolate mixed in.

Taste: Full bodied and almost sticky sweet right off the bat, with a big dose of toasted malt flavor before a generous amount of earthy hop bitterness cuts the sweetness. The malt returns for this finish, which is lingering with some nice nuttiness and a bit more syrupy sweetness.

The Rest: Full, fairly creamy body with decent balance, this beer has the bitterness to support what could have been an overly sweet beer. Pretty tasty.

04-08-2011 00:02:08 | More by curasowa
Photo of TwoTrees


4/5  rDev +2.8%

07-30-2013 19:21:14 | More by TwoTrees
Photo of AtrumAnimus


3.85/5  rDev -1%

This good draft was very malty. The nose was also very fruity and sweet. the mouthfeel was nice and somewhat watery. The head a bit to be desired. Overall a drinkable beer. Though not a great beer. I still enjoy this one every now and then but it is a middle of the road beer for me.

01-23-2003 11:19:43 | More by AtrumAnimus
Photo of beerandcycling88


3.38/5  rDev -13.1%

Poured from a bottle into my Iron Horse mug.

A Pours a dark brown, with a white 2 finger head.

S Has a almost fruit like nose that hints of apples.

T Kind of sweet, with some dark fruits. A bit of hops, and a metallic kind of taste that kind of kills it for me.

M A very smooth light mouthfeel.

Overall this isn't a bad beer, its kind of enjoyable but there is nothing about it that really stands out to much.

04-28-2011 23:18:15 | More by beerandcycling88
Photo of Beric


3.5/5  rDev -10%

06-01-2013 11:54:53 | More by Beric
Photo of SicemWT


3.5/5  rDev -10%

10-30-2013 03:37:07 | More by SicemWT
Photo of 99bottles


3.45/5  rDev -11.3%

Appearance: Pours a rich amber-brown body with a weak fizzy head that had poor retention. Thin off white lace remains atop the beer while being drank. Some slight lacing on sides of the glass.

Smell: Not very impressive. Some very sweet malt notes, but not very strong. Soft and round buttery smell.

Taste: Bland, I thought. The main taste is of sweet carmel malt and rich dark malts. Somewhat good interplay between a dry toasty aftertaste and a syrupy sweet forefront. This really lacks the nice fruity esters of some of the better dopplebocks. Alcohol is not obvious, but it is apparent. Very understated hop taste.

Mouthfeel: Decent. Smooth and rich, minimal cloying. Very faint carbonation.

Drinkability: Nothing wrong with it, I could have a few. The question is, why would I go to town with a boring dopplebock with the likes of Celebrator and Salvator out there? Take the training wheels off and go for a slightly more interesting take on the style. This is not bad in any way though. Oh yeah, this review was for a green glass bottle from a cooler, but I don't think that threw it off any, as I've had it before and thought it was constant.

06-08-2004 19:01:01 | More by 99bottles
Photo of beerceller99


3.73/5  rDev -4.1%

12 oz. bottle with a code of L09841S, what ever that means.
Pours a garnet hue with a big brown head. Has a black licorice sweet smell. Taste is a strong, dark caramel, black licorice and chocolates. Full bodied, almost syrupy mouthfeel. Finishes with a slight bitter alcohol taste.
This brew tastes best at warmer temps. 60-65 degrees.

11-07-2004 18:06:51 | More by beerceller99
Photo of Yesac


3.6/5  rDev -7.5%

A- Brown with a ruby hue. Semi translucent. Small head that quickly fades to a ring on the outside of the glass.

S- Sweet malt, candies, brown sugar. Not to complex.

T- Mild caramel, dark fruits, slight sweetness and slight hint of the 7% at the end.

M- Texture is very thing and watery, medium carbonation.

D- Not the most complex brew, but how complex can this style be? It's definitely an easy drinker due to the malty dominance. Nothing to special here, but I could easily buy a sixer for a campfire.

08-17-2010 22:57:06 | More by Yesac
Photo of Stoutlad


3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

01-09-2013 22:10:32 | More by Stoutlad
Photo of almychristopher

New York

4.03/5  rDev +3.6%

this beer pours a nice clear brown color with a tan head that recedes to very fine lacing. the aroma is very malty with a bit of caramel in the nose as well, maybe a bit of fruit esters from the yeast. the taste improves upon the nose with the caramel and roasted malt flavor very well developed and complimented nicely by the bavarian yeast esters. the full body and smooth carbonation are good for the style, a petty drinkable doppelbock.

12-03-2009 22:56:45 | More by almychristopher
Photo of Johnroby


4/5  rDev +2.8%

02-28-2014 04:26:51 | More by Johnroby
Photo of palma

New York

4.08/5  rDev +4.9%

Appearance: Dark brown body. Creamy looking beige head. Very good head retention.

Nose: Molassas, chocolate, and raw alcohol. Tangy fruit, cherries maybe. Also some light nutty notes.

Taste: Very malty as expected. Notes of chocolate, coffee, rum cake. A good nuttiness. Significant raw alcohol cannot be missed, though it's not a bad thing. This is a strong beer.

Mouthfeel: Medium carbonation. Very full mouthfeel. Pretty sticky.

Though Doppelbock is not one of my favorite styles, this beer fits the bill perfectly. Overall, this is a very good beer of this style and is exactly what I had expected. Wish I'll one day have the oportunity to taste it fresh in Germany.

10-07-2005 08:22:04 | More by palma
Photo of naterock


3.6/5  rDev -7.5%

poured into a mug from a tap. deep cloudy brown with a offwhite two finger head that sticks heavily. It's hard to tell from the frosty glass, don't you hate that?

smell is moderate and malty with a hint of yeast.

taste is traditionally thick and creamy malty goodness. a little like cough syrup in consistency. There is a little malt charachter that leaves a bitter finish.

mouth is viscous and creamy. Just like any doppelbock, the drinkability is minimal. I don't think I could keep drinking this for a extended period of time. Good but not great.

03-21-2009 18:49:34 | More by naterock
Photo of nealbert


3.5/5  rDev -10%

03-05-2014 17:17:35 | More by nealbert
Photo of wiscokid920


3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

01-22-2012 05:19:32 | More by wiscokid920
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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