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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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1,297 Reviews
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Reviews: 1,297
Hads: 2,886
Avg: 3.89
pDev: 18.25%
Wants: 88
Gots: 356 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

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Photo of Carb-Overlord
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Wenn ich nach Munchen bin, drinke ich viel Spaten Optimator. Diese Bier smecht am bestens mit Blut und Zahne Wurst. Die farbe ist dunkel braun. Ich finde das Bier ist sehr gut fur eine dobbelbach. Komm! Drinken Spaten Optimator mit mir!


... and, this is really a very fine Dobbelbach. Brings back memories of Munich... anyway, pours a rich dark brown with a creamy 1/4" head. Rich sweet flavor; very smooth. This is just bond warming on a chilly autumn night. Would share this with friends or guests any day of the week.

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Photo of KonigObHops
4.39/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a very deep brown with a thick light brown head.

The aroma is smokey with a hint of raisins.

The initial taste of the beer is sweet with toasted malt in the middle. The beer finishes smooth with a smokey raisin aftertaste.

The mouthfeel is extremely smooth almost to the point of being creamy.

Overall this is a very good dunkel. It is smooth and very drinkable with a complex taste that you would expect from the style.

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Photo of Troy-Hawaii
3.44/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bought from Liquor Collection. Very dark brown color, slightly heavy mouth feel, you can taste a feel the alcohol in it so it is a sipping beer but is smooth, strong malt taste.

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Photo of bluntman86
4.11/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.75

stronger than expected while hittin very very clean yumi I first tasted it in 2011 it put me down within 4 12oz beers would rather drink it from a stein I say damn good

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Photo of delcobrewzzz
4.56/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured into seidel mug...

dark amber...actually reminds me of 12 year or older whiskey...nice creamy head that dissipates quickly

nose is not too assertive....bready caramel but a bit thin

flavor is full but mouthfeel less full-bodied (a bit more carbonated than i remember)...getting that lovely dark dried fruit preserves (raisins), bready/malty backbone that lingers a bit then fades fast...sure, the ABV is sensed, but very easy to drink....complex enough for what this is...an excellent example and a go-to for seasoned and newbies....

wait! hold the presses! i just felt something was missing...

i decided to pour the 3/4 that was left into a tall mega-pilsen glass...what a difference...skinnier, undimpled glass allows more light into this still very dark amber doppelbock...head lingers much longer and continues to lace as it slowly settles....nose stays the same...taste alters quite a bit, so am pleased to get more malt backbone, a more mellowed sweet dried-fruit marmalade note (actually a lemon-meringue instance, too)...so a citrus, oranginess comes through...the mouthfeel 'seems' less thin and the effervescence is not so distracting. interesting. still highly recommended.

choose your glassware wisely...!

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Photo of KYGunner
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

This drinks with an array of dark fruits like prune, date, crabapple, dark cherries and plums. It has a backdrop of chocolate malt, grain and molasses. The feel has just a bit of alcohol warmth.

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Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L: A brilliant dark brown pour crowned by a dense, clingy, cream 2” cream colored foam collar that slowly recedes. S: Fresh dark bread, spice and a hint of banana. T: Bready malt, a hint of cola, spice and a dark bread crust bitter. F: Very smooth medium low carbonation, medium full body. O: A wheel of Rocchetta, a fresh baguette and an Optimator and you have "Le petit Jésus en culotte de velours."

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Photo of Catracho5
4.04/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle poured into a tulip glass

A: Dark brown, some light comes through, no head, tan colored before it dissipated.

A: Sweet malts, caramel, roast, toffee, smells complex with some depth.

T: Like the nose, sweet and roasted malts, caramel, toffee, hint of alcohol, very enjoyable.

M: Creamy, average carbonation, finishes dry, medium mouthfeel.

O: This is good, easy drinking beer, I could enjoy this with dinner, it's like an enjoyable middle of the road beer, doesn't really impress but it satisfies. Feels a little lighter than other Dopplebocks.

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Photo of OldManMetal
3.76/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Spaten's Optimator doppelbock looks the part: a brief medium off-white creamy head atop a nice deep brown body. On the nose it is very sweet and malty: lots of nice caramel with lesser amounts of dark toffee and hints of molasses. The palate follows the nose: lightly roasted malt notes, largely caramel and toffee again, mostly balanced by a bit of hoppy bitterness but still a bit sweet; alcohol has a significant presence on the palate as well. The finish is malty and a bit sweet, followed by a slight bitterness; both the malt flavors and the bitterness linger a bit. Mouthfeel matches the medium body; the texture is creamy with a prickly feel from some very assertive carbonation. Pretty smooth-drinking for the ABV. (12 oz bottle, 329 days after pkg.)

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Photo of 360logic
3.86/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

L: Standard dark amber of most doppelbocks. Medium thick head.

S: Dark cherry, toasted pumpernickel bread, sight yeastiness. A distinct metallic odor stands out though. Kind of unpleasant.

T: A somewhat indistinct dark maltiness interplays dark fruitswith . The finish is pretty strange, a weird sour funkiness gives way to a very flat maltiness before it disappears. Again, not an overly pleasant detail.

M: Medium body without too much carbonation. Pretty nice.

O: Pretty good. If I had never had the other major german doppelbocks I'd hold this in higher regard, but as it stands, this lies near the bottom of that list.

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Photo of DoctorZombies
4.22/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Almost black pour with lite tan head; good lace. Sweet prune nose. Pruney malty flavors. Medium lite mouthfeel and crisp. I liked that I could taste a little alcohol in this dopplebock.

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Photo of bwood06
3.81/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - dark brown in color with a very think white head. moderate carbonation. 3.75/5

S - grapenuts cereal. toasted dark bread. 4/5

T - toasted wheat bread. cereal. very little hops. 3.75/5

M - heavy body. not as carbonated as expected. 3.75/5

O - good beer with dinner. light but heavy. straightforward. 3.75/5

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Photo of ralph-pine
4.02/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This german Dock iis very honest, very transparent and very tasty. It feels lighter than others of the same category, despite its more than 7 degrees of alcohol. Very refreshing, perfect for anytime.

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Photo of Premo88
3.77/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into pilsener

L: crystal clear amber, almost scarlet red; lots of bubbles flying up middle of column, leaving a good skin and huge collar; head is not big, maybe 1/3 to 1/2-inch tall of beige/tan foam; no stick or lace

S: musty caramel; figs ... quite sweet, candied figs/fruitcake; very fruity ... peach, apricot and plum

T: very fruity and light ... like a toasted English pale ale; some earthy/dirt hops ... in fact, the hops really chew into the sweetness; slight bit of medicinal alcohol flavor; hint of skunk from the green bottle

F: very light, crisp ... full from the carbonation

O: pretty easy-drinking doppelbock, full of lighter dark-malt flavors -- only as it warms does it start to take on a raisin flavor ... until then, it's more fig and even peach.

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Photo of MarkStewart
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Good but not great. Subtle hints of roasted malt on the nose with a smooth flavor and body with a creamy finish. So smooth in fact that you will not notice the slighty elevated ABV, I will definitely have it again.

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Photo of tconboy
4.6/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark brown. I like the flat coke analogy. Head dissipates. Light lacing. Tastes of sweet delicious malty goodness with a hint of brown sugar and caramel. Incredibly smooth and very drinkable. Thankful I decided to pick up this as a throw in on a pick your own sixer so that I could celebrate the week's end today. Takes me back to Germany.

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Photo of headbangingteacher
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Looks like flat Coke after the thin but aromatic head dissipates. The malts are pronounced from start to finish. Not as good as the Heffe, but a quality brew nonetheless.

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Photo of 29mikoyan
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of the best doppelbocks in the world. Molasses and nice dark bread define this beer. A beautiful fruity finish. One of the best lagers in the world and also the best beers in this world.

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Photo of Marraybay
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This has been my #2 mainstay of late. Overall, really like the flavor, which has a nice sweetness buried in the background. As a stout/porter fan, it's a nice deviation, without totally straying from the things I enjoy about that style. As others have stated, I find it does hit me a little hard as well, particular when consumed without food. I do very occasionally get a little bit of a metallic note in the mix --that's a little off-putting--but otherwise like the flavor. I also find that I prefer it throughly chilled and don't let it sit before drinking.

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Photo of CraigS119
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.25

Lots of nostalgia with this brew.. along with Delirium Tremens, this was my go-to beer at the local world-of-beer when I turned 21 back in 2011. Purchased the single bottle at Total Wine just for this review. Pours a cola brown, lots of bubbles, quickly fading head. Not as hoppy as I remember from draft.. notes of brown sugar malts, sweet potato in the nose. Taste: what a malt bomb; not what I remember at all (though, in my defense, I was probably quite inebriated and with this beer's well-masked abv, it's no wonder I loved it), the malts just over-power any inkling of alcohol, roasted caramel at the finish. Smooth, crisp, goes down real smooth. I remember when 7.6% abv was considered one of the manly beers, which is no doubt, the real reason why I drank it. Anywho, even though I love my IIPAs these days, Spaten and their Optimator will always have it's place. 8/10

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Photo of Gerald51
4.15/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

One of my favorite Doppelbocks from my time spent in Bavaria. Poured into a glass the first thing noticeable is the strong brown color with hints of Amber followed by a nice fruity aroma and nice brown head with lite lacing. Optimator is a very malty Doppelbock with great caramel and fruity flavors. It drinks easy and goes great with meals or by itself. It drinks so easy that the 7.60% ABV will sneak up on you before you know it.

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Photo of DevAJ
4.39/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Hit me surprisingly hard for only being 7.6% abv, but then again I could have just downed it too quickly. If I downed it too quickly it's because it was surprisingly easy to drink.

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Photo of vette2006c5r
2.97/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Optimator pours a dark brown color with a small lacing head. There is a sourish, grainish aroma. The taste has a sharp malt bite to it, grianish. A bit hard to drink. Overall its the worst, its a tad hard to drink, grainy.

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Photo of Mike707
4.6/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into an over sized wine glass Optimator is a delicious malty Doppel Bock with Caramel and toasted malt notes. Definitely a cooler weather brew. Not as good as Paulaner Salvator Double Bock though!
Still can't go wrong with Optimator!
Why don't any American or Californian's brew a Bock or Doppel Bock ? All the so called "Micro Breweries" think the more Hops the better. Adding more Horsepower to a car doesn't necessarily make it better unless you add bigger brakes, suspension etc...
I don't drink those "New Jack" beers that taste like my Dad made it at home. Unless I'm drinking his.

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Photo of majorbase2
3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into New Glarus Pilsener. Pours a dark brown color with a big foamy, very light brown head. Recedes quickly. Leaves a small ring of lacing around the edges.

Aroma is of dark fruits and lightly roasted malts. Molasses. A good deal of sweetness.

Taste is roasted chocolate malts, a bit of molasses, and dark fruits led by fig and dark cherry. Light hops. A small amount of bitterness on the finish. THe chocolate is very smooth a silky, a very pleasant touch on the tongue with results in some excellent drinkability.

Medium bodied. Low carbonation. Goes down very smooth. Drank this one in about 15 minutes, and normally I take 30+.

Overall, and excellent example of a doppelbock. Distinct flavors and easy drinking make this an ideal introductory doppelbock

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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