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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,635 Ratings
very good

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Ratings: 2,635
Reviews: 1,270
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.6%
Wants: 63
Gots: 190 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu visit their website

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

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Photo of fdig23
4/5  rDev +2.8%

fdig23, Jun 25, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -10%

gunclubchris, Jun 25, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

Joefisherman, Jun 24, 2012
Photo of NuclearDolphin
3.3/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a pint glass

Appearance - Clear, dark fiery red with tons of carbonation rising up. Head is a dirty white/brown color with a soapy appearance

Smell - Caramel, Yeasts, Malts and Barley. The smell has a very strong, penetrating quality to it, as the smell seems to go right into your sinuses which feels rather strange. Aside from that, it smells decent

Taste - Caramel, Roasted Malts, Toffee, Yeasts and Barley. It's not as strong as the flavor, but it still tastes rather sweet. The aftertaste is quite strange, with a burnt malt/burnt barley flavor; tastes kind of ashy.

Mouthfeel - Moderate body weight with a moderate carbonation feel. It's crisp feeling, but not what I would call smooth. Still, it's easy to drink and that's what really counts

Overall - I was expecting more from Optimator, in terms of flavor and smell. Had the aftertaste not been so dry and ashy, I would've been more impressed.

NuclearDolphin, Jun 23, 2012
Photo of mk66
4/5  rDev +2.8%

mk66, Jun 21, 2012
Photo of Kevin79
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

Kevin79, Jun 21, 2012
Photo of haddon
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a caramel color with an off-white head.

starts a bit dull on the nose but eventually displays some nice caramel and dark fruit sweetness, as well as some doughy bread.

pretty typical flavors on the palate that one would expect from a Doppelbock: caramel, raisin, and black cherry came through.

Medium in body with a medium level of carbonation.

DB is not my favorite style of beer but I rather enjoyed this one. pleasant experience from start to finish.

haddon, Jun 20, 2012
Photo of RickS95
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours and extremely dark brown. Despite the dark color, it's clearish, similar to cola. The head is a dirty white, very thick and creally creamy looking. As the head falls, a beautiful lace is left stuck to the glass.

All malt. Some earthy floral notes, and maybe even some licorice, but very malty on the nose.

Like the nose, it's very malty. There's a nice hop presence in the finish. The middle is mostly earthy grains and some smoke.

I haven't had many lagers that had a good feel. This one was better than average as it was slightly sweet and creamy, however there was a watered down feel that I've come to hate in lagers. This one wasn't as bad, and that's keeping with the style.

Despite my not liking lagers, I could get used to this one. A bit thin for me, but overall a good beer.

RickS95, Jun 20, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

bpasquetti, Jun 19, 2012
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2.75/5  rDev -29.3%

aaronblain22, Jun 19, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

NodakEric, Jun 15, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

jdcooper88, Jun 15, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -10%

kb2250, Jun 14, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

JeepinJJ, Jun 14, 2012
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

shizzy77, Jun 14, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

FLBEERGUY25, Jun 12, 2012
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3.25/5  rDev -16.5%

Warwick, Jun 10, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

nyrblue2, Jun 09, 2012
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4.25/5  rDev +9.3%

jas30060, Jun 09, 2012
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

eaphikap, Jun 08, 2012
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5/5  rDev +28.5%

Will_Turner, Jun 07, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

ccozzi, Jun 05, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

ret3, Jun 03, 2012
Photo of matjack85
4.13/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I bought this single 12oz green bottle at the Binny's store in Plainfield, IL for $1.39. No freshness date or anything about the beer on the label.

The beer poured a clear dark mahogany color and made a huge tan colored head that took up 3/4 of the glass. I had to wait several minutes for the head to subside in order to drink it without getting a mustache. The only disappointing thing about the appearance was that lacing was minimal.

Big malty smell to this beer with some raisin/plum aroma underneath.

Lots of good flavors in this one. Sweet malt and dark bread are the easiest flavors to pick out. After that comes a mildly bitter coffee taste along with some dark chocolate and some raisin/plum fruitiness. A touch of both spicy and herbal hops round things out.

Lighter in body than I expected for such a flavorful brew. Carbonation level was low and a bit disappointing. The 7,2% alcohol is not even noticeable.

This is a pretty good doppelbock and it comes at an affordable price.

matjack85, Jun 02, 2012
Photo of whatthehull
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4


A - Dark mahogany, half finger tan head and a bit of head lacing

S - Bready yeast, huge malts, nice earthy toned hop, sugar, slight fruit, lots of pilsner smell, sugar and more yeast

T - Huge malts sweet and bitter, German pilsner hops, foliage, soil, wood, wine grapes, very dark fruits, very sweet bready yeast and a nice very slight booze

M - Medium body, low acidity, nice balance, decent complexity and a well rounded, very smooth and long sweet finish

D/O - Very refreshing, tons of taste, nothing over the top. just the right amount of everything. Well made. One of my favorite German beers and I am not a German beer fan

Final thought - $2 a pop and a very nice 7+% abv. Give this one a ride

whatthehull, Jun 02, 2012
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
88 out of 100 based on 2,635 ratings.