Spaten Optimator | Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator
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Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
Germany | website

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.60%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

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Reviews: 1,312 | Ratings: 2,959
Photo of beerguy101
4.35/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown color, medium white foamy head. Aroma is malty and rich. Deeply roasted malts. A full-bodied Dopplebock. Malts are slightly sweet with a nice caramel flavor. Mouthfeel is full. Finish is clean and smooth. Aftertaste is malty and dry. Great beer.

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Photo of Gavage
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was my first experience of this on tap. It poured a lovely dark brown / burgandy color with a very thin head. The aroma was nice, but I expected some more sweetness and roasted malt in the nose. I expected a thick malty beer, and that's exactly what I got. The malt lingered long on the tongue and the sweetness was not overpowering. The drinkabilty of this good, as I could have easily had more than one in a session. This would be a great to drink on a cold winter night, as the alcohol definitely warms the insides.

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Photo of Shaw
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Optimator is my favorite doppelbock. My local frequently has it on tap, which is a treat.

It's nice and dark, with a real malty-sweet-molasses taste. But it isn't overpowering like some other doppelbocks. Not much of a head.

A great beer to drink a liter of! With an above-average alcohol content, however, I would suggest limiting yourself to one liter.

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Photo of BeerResearcher
4.23/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This Dopple Bock is in a league of its own. Its Ruby/Cordovan color and rich creamy head invite you to gulp. A pleasant aroma of roasted malt, hops and mild alcohol lasts. A heavy, thick body is creamy and lush. Sweet, yet sharp edged. Smooth and creamy...an enigma. The flavors jump out and introduce themselves separately then sort of meld and balance towards the end of the glass. A must try!

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Photo of steelreign
4.57/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Jeez, if the bar I had this at didn't have about 60 more comparable beers like this, I would have drank this all night! What a fantastic display of the style....rich, dark brown in color with tons of sweet malty goodness balanced nicely by the hop level. Smooth, luxurious mouthfeel, with some spicy notes along with the roasted malty complexity. Very much recommended, especially if you typcially like big beers in this mold (Celebrator, etc...)

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Photo of 86MonteSS
4.65/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sure, why the hell not.

It's a deep brownish coloration with just the right head.

A sweet, full-bodied aroma made my heart cry for joy... seriously.

The taste is thick and malty, but just hoppy enough to keep the kids from loving it.

The finish says "hey, you just had one hell of a beer, ya fat, lazy bastard."

And I say, Spaten Optimator must be the best German beer I've ever had.

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Photo of Boilermaker88
3.82/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on tap at Heroe's Bar & Grill, La Verne, CA

Appearance: clear brown with a thin tannish head. No discernible carbonation.

Smell: strong sweet malty aroma with hints of raisins and plums. Faint alcohol astringency.

Taste: nice malt flavor with pleasant fruity undertones. Slightly bitter finish. Mild alcoholic bite.

Feel: medium-bodied, smooth, slick.

Drinkability: easy to drink, thanks to smooth and velvety feel and good taste. % ABV is a small detractor. Overall, a good beer to sit back and relax with.

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Photo of BierManVA
4.15/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A very smooth bier with a malty, alcoholic caramel smell. Pleasant aftertaste (I also like scotch) and good mouth feel. Not as sweet as some dopplebocks, no chocolate or burnt taste.

I'm sitting here drinking it and I am near to the bottom of the glass already! All and all a very good Doppelbock.

Oops! guess I need another!

John

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Photo of woemad
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured a dark brown color with an off-white head. Generous lacing. Smell of toasty malt and dark fruits. Tasted of toasty malt, with a figgy, raisiny dark fruit flavor. Hops were minimal. Creamy mouthfeel. This was a nice dopplebock, but not terribly remarkable.

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Photo of clvand0
4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a very dark amber color with a small tan head and a little lacing on the glass. The aroma is very malty and strong but still pleasant. I found this beer to be extremely smooth - slid down very nicely. The maltiness is very apparent in the taste and it is just sweet enough. There is also some chocolate that can be found in the taste. The carbonation is there in the taste, but it is very thin - almost like the bubbles are extremely tiny - dunno how to describe this. The aftertaste is malty with a hint of alcohol. Nice beer.

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Photo of TheDM
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This brew poured a large head of light brown bubbles that were of fine to medium sizes. It had a dark brown almost opaque body with no carbonation evident. With a mild aroma of malt, it has a complex flavor full of spices, malt, caramel, some chewiness and a very mild aftertaste. It goes down very smoothly and leaves a good lacing as it does.

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Photo of HardTarget
4.27/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4.5

Aroma: A rich dark malt. I noted some toasted hints, with a slight alcohol nose, but not strong.
Appearance: Dark, looks kind of like coke. When back lit shows nice clarity. I got a nice thin tan head that lasted throughout the beer. The carbonation, while not overly bubbly, was strong and lasting.
Flavor: There are just enough hops to balance the first impression, but the malt quickly takes over for a long sweet aftertaste. I couldn’t note any real hop taste, but again, just enough to keep the beer from being too sweet. You can note the alcohol in the aftertaste, but not very strongly.
Mouthfeel: As dark and rich as the malt is, the mouthfeel is a bit light. While this detracts from a completely satisfying experience, it does lend itself to drinkability.
Overall Impression: A rich dark malty drinkable beer. Fine German craftsmanship.

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Photo of LarryKemp
4.48/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This dopplebock poured a clear deep brown with a tall stand of a fine dark tan head. The head did not last particularly long but left a nice lace on the glass. The aroma is malty and has no hoppiness. The taste follows suit and is dominated by malt. Their seems to be a fruitiness that hides behind the malt. This beer is not sweet but yet malty. No roasted taste. Not hops. With a little alcohol taste. The biggest weakness in this drink is its less than full-bodied mouthfeel. I would rate it medium at best. Overall, this is a great dopplebock. I find it a very good beer to sip and enjoy its delicious varieties in aroma and taste.

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Photo of jcalabre
3.6/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Originally sampled on 1 March 2003. I am writing this review from my notes. draught: This pours a dark brown color. The body is a lot lighter than I expected. It has a lots of malty, roasty flavors. it's a very nice beer, enjoyable, but not outstanding in my opinion.

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Photo of JohnnyDuvel
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The first couple of times I had the Optimator, it seemed so sweet and strong, and quite powerful. It was my first doppelbock. I hadn't drank it in quite some time, and had one last night along with a Celebrator and a Korbinian (in a head to head taste test). The Optimator was outclassed. It tasted like a Beck's dark, only stronger. It had that sweetish, almost skunky smell and taste (green bottle?). Not bad, but in that competition, clearly not at the same level. You can save a little money on this one, but it's not in the top 5 for doppelbocks (IMO).
(the next time I had this, it was much better. Maybe the green bottle did the other one in. Nice taste, good balance. Still not in the top 5 for doppels, but good nonetheless).

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Photo of Elemental
3.97/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ahhh....a nice doppelbock. I have had this both on tap and in the bottle and out of the bottle the beer is almost as good as the draught beer. Its got a fair amount of head as you would expect for a doppelbock. Dark yet clear with a good hop aroma. This beer melts in the mouth as it goes down. Its smooth and flavorful with the perfect balance of hops.
Bottom line: For this price you won't find much better...

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Photo of Darkale
4.17/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Head is thick and fizzy, quite thick at first, creamy and uneven, and then subsides to a "don't give up" skim. Good lacing.

Body is very clear and the color of cherry wood.

Deep malty aroma, sweet with hints of caramel.

Has almost a barley-wine taste, burning, slightly chewy, rich, and slightly sour afterward.

A very pleasant beer. Taste becomes almost nutty as it warms up.

This was one of the first very dark beers that I ever tasted, many years ago, and I returned to it when I saw one sitting there, almost forlorn, on the single beer shelf. Perhaps a bit sweet for some, but a reliable and deep beer, full of character.

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Photo of Indybeer
3.62/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle. Pours a dark brown with little to no head and no lace. Aroma and taste of malt is strong, with little to no hop bitterness. Lack of any real carbonation, brings out an almost sweet, syrupy flavor. Not a bad doppelbock but nothing really stands out.

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Photo of AudioGilz
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It's brilliant dark amberish brown in color with a fairly large head. The aroma is very malty and slightly alcoholic. It's toasty and medium bodied....doesn't really come across as "chewy" as other doppels. It's very malty nonetheless with a lingering sweetness. Alcohol shows up after it warms a bit and adds a nice touch.....great doppelbock.

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Photo of hotstuff
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This brew poured a large tan head. There was virtually no lacing observed on the sides of my glass. It had an amber body to it. There was no carbonation observed with this brew. It had a fairly smooth taste to it. All in all this was a very good drink.

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Photo of BeerBuilder
3.99/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This one pours to a ruby-brown color with a light brown head. The aroma is malty, bready, and roasty. The flavor is malty, bready, chocolatey, with a bit of roastiness. This is a full-bodied, alcoholic brew. Very malty and tasty. I really enjoy the malty doppel bocks.

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Photo of kbub6f
4.42/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The smaller, 12oz green bottle bought locally (Grapevine refrigerated shelves), a few days in my fridge, reviewed 45F-65F.

A dense tan head coughs up big bubbles. It collapses slowly. Lacing is thin but sticky. Ruby highlights show up in the dark dark beer if you hold it to the light.

What a nice, toffee malty smell. Mere traces of fonk. The front is malty, but also quite fruity. Creamy caramel takes over in the middle leading to a toffee finish with a touch of spice. Aftertaste is sweet toffee caramel and a surprisingly pleasant alcohol flavor.

Man, what a great beer! Deep. Complex. Sweet but not too sweet. Yum!

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Photo of Winter
3.07/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

1 pint, 9 .oz bottle. Gold foil around the neck with the words "Imported" printed several times diagonally across it. The red Spaten logo also appears centered on the front. Poured a clear, very dark copper in color with a khaki-colored head. Decent aroma consisted of roasted malt, toffee, caramel and a hint of sweet spice. Medium-bodied mouthfeel. The taste is decent, yet very uninspiring. Not bad, just bland. Somewhat vinous finish. 7.2% alcohol is evident in the taste. As far as doppelbocks go, Optimator was a big let down for me primarily from a taste standpoint. I expected much more here.

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Photo of marburg
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Eh. Kind of a middle-of-the-road dopplebock. It's brown, as it should be, but it's a bit pale. It's a little thin as lagers tend to be, but there are plenty of fuller-bodied dopplebocks, so there's something to shoot for there. Tastes like a mish-mash of muted flavors with no real pronounced taste beyond a sort of bready vegetable flavor. It's hardly bad; it's just not unexpected, exceptional, or fun in any way.

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Photo of bierman2000
4.3/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sweet and dark copper/brown. Very malty with a pronounced thickness compared to other Dopplebocks. It is highly drinkable but also the alcohol comes through after it warms. A good style of Doppelbock that is not given its due. One to try and compare to others.

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Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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