Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,815 Ratings
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Ratings: 2,815
Reviews: 1,314
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 77
Gots: 305 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999

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Ratings: 2,815 | Reviews: 1,314
Photo of MNishCT77
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle drank as part of a BJCP tasting group (Category 5: Bock) on 01/14/2015, poured into a snifter glass and drank over 15-30 minutes

Photo of kbrown
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

First time at Hollerbach's Willow Tree Cafe!

Photo of Bali_hi
4.58/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Bottle of optimator bock drank.

Photo of grg001
4.77/5  rDev +22.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Love this beer. It sets the standards for everything I personally love about beers. Truly a great beer IMO.

Photo of car2052
4.39/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 12 oz. bottle to pint glass.

A: Clear dark brown, almost black. Small lacing of tan head.
S: Strong smell of caramel malt, sweetness, toffee, cereal grains, and a plum/prune scent.
T: Sweet, yet strong malts akin to a porter show up first, followed by a bran cereal taste. Minimal hop taste. Not as much fruit in the taste. Finishes with an alcoholic bite at the end.
M: Medium to heavy. Malts coat your tongue at the end.
O: Not a bad doppelbock. Will have to try more to compare.

Photo of bigbadbootydaddy
3.91/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice and dark with a little bite.

Photo of SirBrandonofMaltANDHops
3.33/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

Comparing this to Paulaners version I find this one harder to drink & not as smooth.

Photo of Trombone69
4.03/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A fine brew indeed. Tastes a bit like a dark Octoberfest.

Photo of Chuck6860
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I really like this beer. Almost like a liquid dessert

Photo of HamdenHector
4.23/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A: crystal clear; deep ruby in color; 1 finger khaki head that receded to a thin, uneven, cap; very little lacing;

S: figs, prune, and molasses;

T: caramel up front; fruit cake at mid-palate, which fades as you get to the finish; light bitterness at the end;

M: medium bodied - almost a little syrups; effervescent carbonation; dry finish; rich; slight warming from the ABV;

O:loved the flavor;

Photo of VaporDome
3/5  rDev -22.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Not great but not really my cup of tea

Photo of CoffeePorter
3.77/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Very dark, almost completely black
S: Like a thick malt with traces of hops, very earthy
T: A bit bitter as the hops would suggest, very dark and rich
M: Medium amount of carbonation
O: It's an okay beer, not a go to beer, but one that I would have on occasion

Photo of bizmirli
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is my favorite beer. It made me explore the world of craft beer

Photo of Beer-Revelry
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours a dark brown, almost pitch black.
S - Sweet and slightly alcoholic with traces of dates, coffee and dark chocolate.
T - A sweet and bitter malt.
O - One of my top 10 stouts of all time.
V - A little pricy, but definitely worth it.

Photo of ShinerBock_29
5/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Best beer on the planet. Haven't had one in a while to review it in great detail. I just remember it tasting like awesome.

Photo of pstringall
4.46/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

One of my favorite beers of all time!

Photo of Jeffsta1
3.72/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Dark color. Very little head.
The smell from the bottle hints of American Pilsener - not a good thing IMO.
Much richer mouthfeel than one would guess from the absence of head. I dig it.
Nice mild, malty flavor. It's almost as if they had a milk stout in mind when they devised the recipe.
Not a bad beer at all. It's not Celebrator, but it's very drinkable.

Photo of infinitebruner
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

December 27, 2014

500 ml bottle, weizen glass

A – Dark amber to medium brown, with some slightly red highlights in the narrow part of the glass. A finger of khaki foam and bubbles, with fairly low retention. Good clarity.

S – Roasty, chocolate malt, very well-baked brown bread. Similar to a Munich dunkel. Some earthy hop aroma. A good amount of malty sweetness is accented as the beer warms.

T – Dark, bready malt flavor, like chewing on moist bread crust. Some chocolate, caramel, not as sweet as it seemed on the nose. Again, earthy hops, slightly herbal/medicinal, and a moderate level of hop bitterness providing a strong backbone.

M – Medium-low carbonation, and both roasty malt and hop bitterness are the main things present. Not as sweet as I would expect based on the aroma profile. No warmth in spite of slightly higher ABV, though a bit thinner than a dunkel or regular bock.

O – Some very nice layering of aromas and flavor, with nothing jumping out but everything melding into a highly drinkable, higher alcohol-brew. This one could sneak up on you. A well-made beer.

Photo of stortore
3.89/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Tasty, smooth, not the depth of flavor or the rich, thick body of others. Had bottle (unseen) at a restaurant not known for its beer offerings, so maybe not tasting it at its best.

Photo of HawkFalco
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%

Tasted: Dec 14, 2014
Purchased: Dec. 10 2014
16.9 oz bottle

In short: Delicious German dark beer, sweet, smooth and creamy with just a touch of bitterness. This brew is a fine reason why I drink beer. I will certainly buy more and recommend it to my friends.

Poured refrigerator cold into a cold pint glass. Made a one finger head which disappeared fast.

Poured deep, dark brown. I had to hold up to the light to see the deep rosewood color.

Tastes malty, not overly sweet, with warming a light (and right) amount of bitterness becomes more pronounced, well balanced with the malty sweet. Alcohol buried and not forward at all.

Feels creamy, smooth.

Sorry to see the bottom of my glass. More, please.

Photo of plaidowl
4.27/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

The firs thing that I noticed was the beautiful, deep rosewood color. The smell has a coffee tone to it, with chocolatey-cherry hints in the background; in the taste, however, their places reversed. Primarily malty, but with the undeniable presence of hops in the flavor. Full bodied flavor, with a roasted-sweetness and a mildly bitter finish.
Review based on a bottle aged at least a year in my fridge, so, in my experience, the head was minimal and the bouquet was lessened. The feel remained effervescent, however.

Pair with sweet, rich foods. Ideally, I would drink it with a dessert that features real, dark chocolate. The cherry tones also lend itself to pairing with dishes that have actual cherries, like a cheesecake that has some. But, it also works well with an entree that has barbecue sauce.

Photo of dank203
3.89/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

it is a good beer. lucky to have discovered a new store in my area which seems to be the only place that carries this beer. pretty creamy feel, sweet aromas and flavors, hint of licorice, coffee, black cherry, grape, an oily quality

Photo of The-Adjunct-Hippie
4.07/5  rDev +4.6%

My doppelbock cherry is being popped. Hope it's a good experience. I bought three of these.

Appearance (4.5) : Head is a very impressive mesh screen of tightly knit bubbles in a creamy cap about three fingers high. It's not going anywhere, folks. The body is a coffee brown color with about 80% opacity. The head alone warrants the high rating. It's just staying put, it's not going anywhere. Three fingers, guys!

Aroma (4) : Coffee beans, some twisted black licorice, heavy barley and oats, and some grassy scents. All of these qualities are about equal in strength with none overpowering another. Bouquet is medium volume.

Taste (4) : Krinking my neck here. Whoa. So much to talk about and with a mule kick to the face. This is for sure a strong beer. It's like, what I would envision tough Germans who just came back from the battlefield would drink at the army pub and sing songs with. A grassy, hoppy taste starts it off with some coffee roastiness and a large lick of alcohol up the side. Some dark dried plum. At the end there's some oaty licorice and barley. It ends robust with heavy malt texture but quite a bit of hop flavor. Straight from the bottle keeps everything in check. The finish is dry, dry, dry. Dude, this is a man's man's beer.

Mouthfeel (3.75) : Spritzy and flat at the same time but creamy and ends dry.

Overall (4.07) : The other two bottles I bought will no doubt be in my fridge for a long time. This beer is so strong I don't think I'll crave or want one for another three days. The flavor is however, on purpose and in your face. Oaty, hoppy, licorice flavor that stays with you. This beer is a punch to the face.

Photo of leffebrown84th
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

Light fruit ,high carbonation,, light flavor. Good.

Photo of BeerWithMike
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%

Sampling right now on 10/10/14. This one comes in a single 500ml (16.9 oz) bottle but I think I seen it in a smaller 330ml (11.2 oz) bottle as well. Bottle chilled down to 36 degrees in my beer cooler. Poured in to a handled glass "DAB" tall stein.

Pours a dark reddish-brown in color with a good 1+-finger creamy foamy head that settles down to just along the sides of the glass after a while. The lacing is close to ring-like at first then near the the of the drink is very spotty. The aroma is very nice of dark fruit sweetness and malts for the most part. More going on with the taste as the plums and dates (?) add great flavor to this wonderful brew. Medium+ bodied with perfect carbonation. Goes down smooth with no bitter finish at all. A great brew! PROST!

Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
87 out of 100 based on 2,815 ratings.