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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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BA SCORE
87
very good

2,502 Ratings
THE BROS
86
very good

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Ratings: 2,502
Reviews: 1,262
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 62
Gots: 144 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 04-06-1999)
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xbrettfavrex

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-21-2013 03:04:42 | More by xbrettfavrex
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crownrl28

Georgia

4/5  rDev +2.8%

06-07-2014 22:14:32 | More by crownrl28
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dwtyler

California

4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-03-2012 03:14:48 | More by dwtyler
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Sarmartay

California

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

05-14-2013 20:03:10 | More by Sarmartay
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TLove

District of Columbia

2.83/5  rDev -27.2%

I first had this in Germany on tap about 3 years ago and was aching to dip into it again when I was it at my local beer store. All in all, this beer tasted almost EXACTLY like regular Spaten with the exception of the orangish-brown color and the strength (a solid doppelbock at 7% ABV). It does not have the substance that I anticipate from a doppelbock and really does not bear the flavor all that well. It drank far better on tap and although vaguely differed from regular Spaten's crispness, the bite and refreshing finish really did it for me. It has some light fruit tones and a hint of sweetness, though it drinks like a lighter beer in that it goes down easier and the ABV strength is barely noticeable until it is down your throat.

12-01-2008 21:14:28 | More by TLove
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rkhaze

California

4.13/5  rDev +6.2%

Pours a beautiful mahogany color with a thick dense beige head. Sweet roasted malt in the smell with chocolate, caramel and some spice.
Sweet flavors of roasted malt, chocolate, caramel and some red fruit. Finishes spicy with a minimal hop presence.
Light to medium bodied with a rich, sticky mouthfeel and good carbonation. Great drinkability.

01-27-2004 02:34:50 | More by rkhaze
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VaterRoss

North Carolina

4.33/5  rDev +11.3%

12oz bottle into tumbler, no BB date.

Pours a beautiful brown that reveals notes of red when held to the light. Head on the pour is quite nice and even has some bubbles cascading downwards, nice. Head goes down to a slight ring after a relatively short amount of time, even the rings goes away. First smell to hit is the "lager smell." Has a very prominent malty/grainy sort of smell.The taste is deliciously malty featuring some light roasted notes, some hop spiciness and a tiny bit of alcohol near the finish. Mouthfeel is medium weight and medium carb, features a sharpness in the initial feel.

This is an excellent lager that is very malty. I've really found myself enjoying dark lagers lately and this one is exceptional. Surprisingly drinkable and hides its slcohol well. Only thing that bothers me at all is the sharp, metallic mouthfeel.

01-30-2012 01:22:30 | More by VaterRoss
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SometimesIfart

Michigan

2.98/5  rDev -23.4%

Poured a transparent black, With a one finger head, Looks like a glass of Pepsi. the smell is of dark cherries, Cranberry fig newtons, And blueberries. Alright I guess, though I prefer nothing but the blueberries. the taste follows the smell, Except the cherry flavoring comes through a wee bit more. The mouthfeel matches both of the previous, And nothing else come's through. The beer was a large disappointment, Considering how highly my father and brother had talked about it

07-29-2012 00:13:44 | More by SometimesIfart
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AtrumAnimus

Texas

3.85/5  rDev -1%

This good draft was very malty. The nose was also very fruity and sweet. the mouthfeel was nice and somewhat watery. The head a bit to be desired. Overall a drinkable beer. Though not a great beer. I still enjoy this one every now and then but it is a middle of the road beer for me.

01-23-2003 11:19:43 | More by AtrumAnimus
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BeerDocT

Georgia

4.13/5  rDev +6.2%

I'm seeing more and more German beers on sale as we get closer to October. All I have to say about that is, "prost!"

Poured into a wide-mouthed glass.

-Appearance 3.0: Dark brown in color when poured, almost black. Not much head at all and what little there was...you guessed it, disappeared quickly. Interesting soda-esque carbonation visible at the line of the beer.

-Smell 4.0: Nice, warm smell of toasted oats and barley and some hops. All of it smells very organic with no harsh notes. Smell is slight and not overpowering and adds to the enjoyment of the beer.

-Taste 4.5: Delicious. First taste is of nothing really, only noticing the carbonation, this is followed by a big burst of flavor: brown sugar and hops and toasted oats. The aftertaste is of toasted grains, with a slight, satisfying alcohol tinge. I have to imagine that this was the plan of the brewers. Delicious.

-Mouthfeel 3.5: The carbonation in this beer enhances the taste and the mouthfeel. Its mouthfeel is smooth, cool and almost creamy.

-Overall 4.0: An excellent beer that is enjoyable as a session beer and delicious with food. Its 7.6% ABV is something to watch out for, but is only slightly noticeable in the taste of the beer and even then is a taste I consider an enhancement, not a detriment. If you have never had this beer you need to try it.

$12.99 for a twelve pack in Atlanta, GA.

09-25-2011 03:09:01 | More by BeerDocT
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curasowa

New York

4/5  rDev +2.8%

Appearance: Dark red with 1 finger of head that fades quickly to a ring with little lacing.

Aroma: Rich and sweet toasted malt with notes of chocolate mixed in.

Taste: Full bodied and almost sticky sweet right off the bat, with a big dose of toasted malt flavor before a generous amount of earthy hop bitterness cuts the sweetness. The malt returns for this finish, which is lingering with some nice nuttiness and a bit more syrupy sweetness.

The Rest: Full, fairly creamy body with decent balance, this beer has the bitterness to support what could have been an overly sweet beer. Pretty tasty.

04-08-2011 00:02:08 | More by curasowa
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bigdaddypolite

Minnesota

5/5  rDev +28.5%

11-19-2011 03:15:27 | More by bigdaddypolite
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angelmonster

Colorado

4.03/5  rDev +3.6%

Pours a 1 finger tan head which faded kinda fast. Very dark brown in color with almost no lacing at all

Smells of sweet roasted malt, some chocolate, and raisins. Not much on the hop side

Taste is of slightly smoky roasted malt, some chocolate and raisins. Alcohol is hidden well for being a Doppelbock

Perfect amount of carbonation, smooth, medium bodied.

Great beer, full of flavors. Full bodied yet highly drinkable. Another high quality product from Spaten

01-17-2009 16:49:21 | More by angelmonster
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ElijahRivera

New York

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

04-10-2013 19:40:36 | More by ElijahRivera
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Rob315

Kentucky

4/5  rDev +2.8%

05-30-2013 13:38:05 | More by Rob315
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wiscokid920

Maryland

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

01-22-2012 05:19:32 | More by wiscokid920
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Jimboe


3.5/5  rDev -10%

10-10-2012 18:52:28 | More by Jimboe
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jdkitchi

Wisconsin

4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-20-2013 23:56:18 | More by jdkitchi
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TwoTrees

Washington

4/5  rDev +2.8%

07-30-2013 19:21:14 | More by TwoTrees
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Johnroby

Ohio

4/5  rDev +2.8%

02-28-2014 04:26:51 | More by Johnroby
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beerandcycling88

Washington

3.38/5  rDev -13.1%

Poured from a bottle into my Iron Horse mug.

A Pours a dark brown, with a white 2 finger head.

S Has a almost fruit like nose that hints of apples.

T Kind of sweet, with some dark fruits. A bit of hops, and a metallic kind of taste that kind of kills it for me.

M A very smooth light mouthfeel.

Overall this isn't a bad beer, its kind of enjoyable but there is nothing about it that really stands out to much.

04-28-2011 23:18:15 | More by beerandcycling88
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Pacioli1445

South Dakota

3.5/5  rDev -10%

11-20-2012 02:33:49 | More by Pacioli1445
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Beric

Massachusetts

3.5/5  rDev -10%

06-01-2013 11:54:53 | More by Beric
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SicemWT

Texas

3.5/5  rDev -10%

10-30-2013 03:37:07 | More by SicemWT
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99bottles

Pennsylvania

3.45/5  rDev -11.3%

Appearance: Pours a rich amber-brown body with a weak fizzy head that had poor retention. Thin off white lace remains atop the beer while being drank. Some slight lacing on sides of the glass.

Smell: Not very impressive. Some very sweet malt notes, but not very strong. Soft and round buttery smell.

Taste: Bland, I thought. The main taste is of sweet carmel malt and rich dark malts. Somewhat good interplay between a dry toasty aftertaste and a syrupy sweet forefront. This really lacks the nice fruity esters of some of the better dopplebocks. Alcohol is not obvious, but it is apparent. Very understated hop taste.

Mouthfeel: Decent. Smooth and rich, minimal cloying. Very faint carbonation.

Drinkability: Nothing wrong with it, I could have a few. The question is, why would I go to town with a boring dopplebock with the likes of Celebrator and Salvator out there? Take the training wheels off and go for a slightly more interesting take on the style. This is not bad in any way though. Oh yeah, this review was for a green glass bottle from a cooler, but I don't think that threw it off any, as I've had it before and thought it was constant.

06-08-2004 19:01:01 | More by 99bottles
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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