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Spaten Optimator - Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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2,403 Ratings
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Ratings: 2,403
Reviews: 1,259
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 12.34%
Wants: 51
Gots: 100 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-20-2013 23:56:18 | More by jdkitchi
Photo of nickthetick


3.78/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: pours a clear dark mahogany/ burnt wood with maybe a half finger of off white head that doesn't hang around much.

S: there's not a whole lot of nose behind this beer, sweet malts and that's all I detect.

T: a lot more here then in the nose. Nice robust malt profile, sweet and smokey. Dried fruits, brown sugars and belgian sugars. Some wheat in back.

MF: medium body and very effervescent, full flavor and not at all astringent.

D: an excellent doppelbock and the one I would pick out of the four on tap at my local beer bar I would pick first.

Serving type: on-tap

02-12-2011 18:07:20 | More by nickthetick
Photo of rodrot

North Carolina

4.33/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Optimator pours a beautiful reddish brown color with a half inch head that lingers in the glass. Aroma is quite malty, with hints of caramel in the nose. Taste is very malty and sweet with notes of caramel, chocolate and butterscotch in the palate. I could taste a light hop bitterness in the finish. This brew is quite rich and full bodied. This an excellent doppelbock and one of the better priced ones at that. $6.99 for a sixer of this wonderful beer is hard to beat.

Serving type: bottle

03-11-2006 13:44:20 | More by rodrot
Photo of JWU


3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle poured into a straight sided pint glass.

A- dark brown with ruby highlights. Thin off-white almost tan head, that dissipates quickly No lacing.

S- dark brown sugar, some dark fruit, not much aroma is there.

T- Dark brown sugar, dark fruits, toasted caramel, and some light herbal hops. The taste overall is a little rougher than some more refined examples of the style.

M- medium-high carbonation. Semi-dry finish.

O- while it's not on the same level as Ayinger Celebrator, it's also half the price. A very good basic introduction to the style for those who haven't enjoyed a doppelbock before.

Serving type: bottle

11-14-2011 01:21:32 | More by JWU
Photo of doowhat


4/5  rDev +2.8%

09-18-2013 21:13:20 | More by doowhat
Photo of Getalegup


3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

05-23-2014 04:00:15 | More by Getalegup
Photo of OlRasputin989


3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: dark brown brew that is ruby red when held to he light. decent off white head

S: dark chocolate and cherries. very simple but nice

T: dried fruit, brown sugar and an oak barrell flavor. finishes with a hoppy and spicy, chocolatey oarnge peel fade

M: medium body with good carbonation and an oily entry fades to slightly oily and dryish

Overall, This is a very good dopplebock and a fine example. This beer is always good when i don't know what to buy.

Serving type: bottle

08-10-2009 00:54:24 | More by OlRasputin989
Photo of LarryKemp


4.47/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This dopplebock poured a clear deep brown with a tall stand of a fine dark tan head. The head did not last particularly long but left a nice lace on the glass. The aroma is malty and has no hoppiness. The taste follows suit and is dominated by malt. Their seems to be a fruitiness that hides behind the malt. This beer is not sweet but yet malty. No roasted taste. Not hops. With a little alcohol taste. The biggest weakness in this drink is its less than full-bodied mouthfeel. I would rate it medium at best. Overall, this is a great dopplebock. I find it a very good beer to sip and enjoy its delicious varieties in aroma and taste.

Serving type: bottle

07-04-2003 17:31:57 | More by LarryKemp
Photo of Hunter


3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

OK...Beer pours the color of a Pepsi (might be sacrilege to say that. Screw it - sue me. It's what it looks like). Head has a good cascading effect like a nitro-fueled Guinness. When it settles I'm left with a three-finger thick tan head with good retention. Moderate carbonation from the brew.

Nose of chocolate spice, hops, and malt. Let's see...agitation brings up some alcohol and floral notes. At 7.2% that shouldn't surprise me.

Strong hit of alcohol in the first swallow, that goes straight to the toes. There is a feel of fermented fruit and malt, some spice in the mouth. An interesting play of flavors, some easier to pick up than others. The alcoholic floral notes linger in the aftertaste. For some reason this seems to hit me harder than a Chimay, but maybe that's not a detriment to the brew.

Mouthfeel is smooth, slightly oily. It clings a bit, and might be better suited to sampling with a good meat or cheese dish than alone. Definitely something to keep in your regular rotation. Bock fans will rave; the rest of us will simply give the thumbs-up. Danke schon, Spaten!

Serving type: bottle

07-09-2004 02:39:59 | More by Hunter
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4.22/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Spaten's Optimator poured a thick brownish foaming white head.It smelled sweet and hoppy.It had a great taste which invited you for another sip.It is very rich and creamy with a malty aftertaste.The head however didnt hold that long retaining almost nothing.I cant believe how smooth and creamy it is.Its a strong brew but not overpowering.Great! I really enjoyed this one.The alchohol content is hidden by the flavor.I would never suspect this to be 7.2%

Serving type: bottle

12-20-2002 11:46:00 | More by kelticblood
Photo of TimH

3/5  rDev -22.9%

05-19-2012 19:17:10 | More by TimH
Photo of Highstplz


3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

09-16-2012 02:12:49 | More by Highstplz
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

11-03-2012 03:14:48 | More by dwtyler
Photo of CharlieMopps


3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Brown look with a 1 inch. head, little lacing, and a somewhat ruby tint to it as well.

S: Very clean and light smelling, w/notes of toasted malt and a shy hop side. Detected a quaint fruity smell as well.

T: Interesting body, smooth introduction and a smooth dryness to the finish. Sweetness is brought forth first, giving way to a hop/alcoholic tang at the end, and perhaps a bit of spice in there. A little complex, but oddly enough not amazing in that regard either.

M: Easy on the palate with good carbonation. The alcohol is detectable, and it is reminiscent of a larger, commercial brew in its mouthfeel character.

D: Not bad. I'd have another, but would go easy due to the abv.

Serving type: bottle

10-17-2006 02:51:37 | More by CharlieMopps
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3.03/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Pours a deep deep ruby color(when held up to the light). Very nice indeed. Thick tan head, settles extremely quickly.Aroma is a bit of sweet caramel and grain. Taste is somewhat lacking. I had high hopes after the beautiful color and not displeasing aroma, but this left me wanting more. Taste is malty sweet, but with hints of metallic. Maybe it's past it's prime, hmm. not sure. Mouthfeel is not bad, not to thick, not to watery thin. But doesn't appear to be much depth to it. As far as drinkability is concerned, i doubt very much i'd try this one again.

Serving type: bottle

09-22-2007 08:08:55 | More by BigJTrucker
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New York

4.18/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed for the first time at a party. Have always enjoyed offerings from Spaten in the past. Pours a caramel color, not much head. smells of bread or brown bread, toasted. Malty, and even sweet. Taste is much the same, bready, biscuity, malty, brown sugar or molasses sweetness. Mouthfeel was o bit too syrupy for my liking, but that did not deter my drinking and liking the overall product. Will drink this again.

Serving type: bottle

01-16-2012 19:27:44 | More by gskitt
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3.75/5  rDev -3.6%

03-20-2014 01:41:06 | More by Hoganlaw
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3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured at fridge temp into a std. pint glass from the green bottle. Why do brewers still use green bottles? They gotta know green bottles are no where near as good as brown for keeping out light.

A hard pour barely raises a head on this beer; at least at this temp. Perhaps I should have poured more down the center than the side. A small tan head developed and quickly faded. No lacing on the side of my glass. The color is a beautiful red-brown, bordering on ruby highlights at the sides of the glass. The color kind of reminds me of Great Lakes Nosferatu.

Nose is pretty huge with malty sweetness. Not only a lot of caramel, but also some dark fruit in there as well. A whiff of alcohol is there too.

Taste follows the nose ... huge malt flavors abound, starting with a caramel that is sweet and full. Some raisin like dark fruit notes surface to add a bit of complexity. As this is warming its tasting more and more complex, and the mouthfeel index is going from med. to full. Slightest of alcohol notes in the back, just to let you know that this is one brew you need to respect. Carbonation is light, and there is just a hint of hay from the hops. This is not a session brew, so I can't give it top marks for drinkability, but you could probably do 2 or 3 of these before handing your car keys to someone else.

A fine example of a doppelbock, and one that's been around for a LONG time. If you are a 'malt monster', this is right up your alley. Recommended to malt-heads and fans of the style. Heck, everyone should try it at least once .. its a classic.

Na Zdravje

Serving type: bottle

09-07-2009 17:46:16 | More by cooncat
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

02-09-2013 21:42:59 | More by BMan33
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4/5  rDev +2.8%

07-01-2014 02:02:34 | More by JDeming
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4.88/5  rDev +25.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I would put this squarely between Salvator and Celebrator in nearly every aspect. Color, mouthfeel, and strength of flavor are all a bit lighter than Celebrator. A dark beer, head is much better on tap than from bottle. I would put this as one of the more approachable doppels, great for introducing someone to the style. This is a doppel you can sit down and drink all night.

Serving type: on-tap

01-01-2003 12:16:38 | More by Sixpack595
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4.5/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Pours a mahogany brown with very little head. No lacing either. The appearance is the only category this beer lacks.

Smell is wonderfully full of malt, pine, brown sugar, soy sauce-like smokeyness and dark fruit. Almost bacony.... like a rauchbier.

Taste is delightfully sweet and full of malt. There's a bit of bitterness from mild hops.

Mouthfeel is perfect. Not too thick and good carbonation.

Drinkability... well the abv will fool you if you don't check the bottle. It tastes like a session dopplebock but is a bit too strong for that.

Serving type: bottle

09-25-2008 03:57:10 | More by gonzo46and2
Photo of SShelly


3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark reddish brown with low white head that fades fairly fast.

Nice biscuity malty aroma with no hops, very clean smell.

Tastes of light malt with a low finishing bitterness on the sides of the tongue, exteremely drinkable, light munich malt flavor is left in the mouth.

This beer drinks itself, fairly refreshing.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2008 01:41:45 | More by SShelly
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New York

4/5  rDev +2.8%

02-03-2012 06:09:07 | More by demgoth
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3/5  rDev -22.9%

01-28-2012 17:18:37 | More by Jamesthebrit
Spaten Optimator from Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu
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