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Shiner Old-Time Alt - Spoetzl Brewery / Shiner

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Shiner Old-Time AltShiner Old-Time Alt

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BA SCORE
82
good

178 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 178
Reviews: 86
rAvg: 3.63
pDev: 14.33%
Wants: 15
Gots: 11 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Spoetzl Brewery / Shiner visit their website
Texas, United States

Style | ABV
Altbier |  4.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: nickfl on 12-23-2010

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Ratings: 178 | Reviews: 86
Photo of Pegasus
3.77/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Clear, deep reddish-amber body adorned with a moderate, somewhat coarse, and persistent off-white head, with scattered, Belgian-style lacing, and slight carbonation.

Aroma: Prominent toasted malt, with strong caramel and distinct fruit notes, and a somewhat spicy and smoky character.

Taste: Opens with dark caramel, toasted malt, and slightly spicy hops. As the taste progresses, strong black bread notes appear. Later in the taste, a nutty character appears, quite pleasant against the abundant caramel. Finishes with a lingering note of burnt caramel, smoky malt, and grassy hops.

Mouth feel: Smooth, soft, fairly full, pleasant.

Drinkability/notes: A pleasing, well-balanced example, which deserves to be a year-round offering.

Presentation: Packaged in a twelve-ounce brown glass bottle with a twist-off crown, served in a New Belgium Brewing chalice.

Photo of dacrza1
3.39/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Aroma: interesting marriage of roasted malts and flowering yeasts; almost perfumy esters are released at the pour... Appearance: thin off-white head that sits on a burnt orange body; tracings are negligable.... Palate: edium-bodieed; a bit crunchy as an ale would present, but also finishes at the throat... Taste: more hops than malts, but the malts show up late--not a big-tasting ale at all... Overall: Alts are always an odd tweener--thee hybrid linebacker of the beer world--and this one is representative, with an Oktoberfest/Munchen flavor and a freshness that throws some ale weight into it....

Photo of EagleTalon
4.12/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours to a thick buff head and clear copper color. Aroma presents a sweet, spicy hop nose with Munich malt and hint of English toffee (or seems like it). Flavor is perfectly balanced with hop bitterness, malt sweetness, noble hop flavors, warm, toasty, biscuity finish. Medium co2 and light mouthfeel that feels a bit sugary. Overall, very good selection from TX.

Photo of LtCracker20
3.94/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Pours a clear golden/orange body, but a very thin head that falls very quickly to a thin cap. Alsmost no lacing.

S- Sweet malts up front, little grassy, some breadiness to it as well.

T- Toasted malts, slight caramel, little nutty and earthy. Some buttery flavors as well.

MF- Moderate body with very little carbonation.

Photo of zeff80
3.72/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Poured out a clear, bubbly copper color with a one-finger, head of tan foam. It left little to no lacing.

S - It smelled floral and malty. An overall sweet aroma.

T - It tasted of sweet caramel with a malty backbone. A very slight spicy bite.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A light to medium bodied lager with a dry finish.

O - This is a nice altbier. Nicely done my Shiner. They consistently put out good lagers.

Photo of Bockrules
3.41/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

poured from the bottle into my most "strange-like" pilsner glass

A - Pours a perfectly transparent, dark copper. A fair amount of bubbles stream to the off-white, creamy, two-finger head. Looks very inviting out of the bottle. Head is only a ring of bubbles 2/3rds of the way down the glass. Leaves a decent web of lacing on the top 2/3rds of the glass.

S - A little bit of caramel malt on a layer of sweet corn and adjunct notes. Opens up a bit in the glass and the adjuncts become less noticeable.

T - A bit of caramel and corn cereal upfront. The body is dominated caramel malt, which in this case is a good thing a the earthy hop notes mesh with adjuncts to create an awkward corn mash bitterness. A flash of earthy hops as the beer passes over the back of the tongue, followed by an exceptionally dry, stale caramel finish.

M - Medium bodied with enough carbonation to give a nice creamy mouthfeel. Could with stand to be heftier.

Despite being labeled as a "Limited Edition Brewer's Pride Craft Brew," the Texans at Shiner once again show that they are incapable of successfully emulating traditional german beers on a budget. Although to their credit, Old-time alt is a much better attempt than their Bock. However, in the end too many adjuncts to cut costs come through and keep this to being an acceptable, not good brew.

Photo of bubseymour
3.41/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

appearance - clear golden color with small head

Smell - not picking up much at all. Some bready notes maybe some maltiness?

Taste - kinda bland in flavor. Crisp finish.

Mouthfeel - ok?

Overall - easy to drink, crisp and sessionable. Nothing noteworthy

Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks for sharing this one, Bobby.

A light copper color with an off-white head. Some malt notes to it, somewhat bready. There’s a little fruity sweetness and maybe some chocolate. Not bad, actually. The flavor is heavy on the bread and toffee sweetness with a little bit of toasted malt. Hints of chocolate malt with some mild fruit notes to it as well. Medium body and carbonation.

Photo of WastingFreetime
3.83/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Final bottle from my Shiner variety six pack adventure.

Pours out a transparent amber with reddish tinges around the edges of the glass when held up to the light. Head is nice and tall, two fingers almost, leaving behind medium levels of lacing. Smells of nice caramel and toffee notes, with an herbal hopping accent as well. Flavor leans more on spice hops than herbal characteristics, however...all on top of a nice smooth sweet toffee malt with well rounded character and medium body.

By far, this was the clear winner from the variety six pack.

Photo of ABVerageJoe
3.96/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

A - Translucent light-copper body with a tiny white head. Tiny bubbles both in the head and in the medium-light lacing.

S - Smelled malty with a little bit of caramel, old McDonalds fries; a weird but familiar smell.

T - Tasted great. Like a German dark beer should, reminded me of Celebrator but not as delicious or thick or flavorful. Tasted toasty brown sugar flavors, very clean and sweet, but not sticky.

M - Clean, dry, sweet with a light-medium body and it was very smooth and drinkable.

O - Delicious! My favorite from Shiner so far. At only $7 for the family reunion six-pack it's a steal to boot. I would love to drink more of this beer, a great one.

Photo of Cuttooth
3.79/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to ABVerageJoe for this one. From the Shiner family six pack.

Pours a copper color. Nice looking beer.

Smells toasty. Solid combination of malts and hops.

The taste is where it gets interesting. Malts, hops and caramel, maybe some brown sugar in there.

Very smooth. Good drinkability.

This one was a pleasant surprise, didn't expect to taste as good as it did, especially after the weakish smell.

Photo of beergoot
3.23/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Presents a clear, amber body with light head. Not much head retention. Light toasted malt nose. Medium body with a tad too much carbonation. Subtle bitter aftertaste.

A fair but undistinguished beer. Maybe a hop presence and a bit more malt character would help with this one.

Photo of Florida9
3.75/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Very clear, transparent copper in color. Forms a small off white head that quickly reduces down to nearly nothing. Some very light lacing.

S: Smells of caramel malts and toast.

T: Flavor is thin caramel malts, some breadiness, and a little toast. There are some faint earthy/spicy hops on the finish.

M: Medium bodied with a very smooth mouthfeel that almost feels out of place. Carbonation that is slightly on the lower side. Very mild bitterness.

O: A good Alt, easily drinkable, well balanced. Overall, a good beer.

Photo of negroobserver
3/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Shiner Old Time JALT
04/12/2011

C: 4.0 - Nice medium brown/amber color. Pours with about two inches of white/linen colored head.

S: 4.0 - Sweet. Malty. Citrus undertones. Not a complex combination of aromas, but it is pleasant.

T: 2.5 - Light sourness. Flat and watery. Minimal flavor. It's refreshing, but becasue its essentially cold water, not because of the aromas and complexities in its nature. Quite a dull tasting beer.

M: 3.0 - The beer is pretty watery, but has some body.

D: 2.5 - It's pretty light and easy to drink, but the poor taste doesn't make me want to drink another. Good thing I only bought one.

OVERALL: C-

Photo of DrDemento456
3.68/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - A real pretty looking beer with a clear golden amber and a half inch of creamy white head that lingers for a while and sticks nicely to the sides of the glass.

S - Light grassy hops, sweet caramels, and a touch of graininess.

T - Very grainy and herbal at first but it does make way to some pretty smooth caramel malts. The graininess helps the beer from being too sweet or cloying but it could use a bit more balance and sweetness.

M - Not bad for a shiner a light to medium body makes it easy to drink.

Overall nothing I would actually seek out again but not very off putting to not enjoy my last couple. Pretty decent altbier.

Photo of y2jrock60
4.09/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Dark orange, almost copper like, with a small white head that left behind moderate lacing.

S- Very sweet and caramely with hints of roasted malt and earthy hops at the finish.

T- Somewhat dry upfront with a mild bitterness that fades into an oily creamy sweetness which then gives way to a mild earthy hop lingering bitterness. There's a large presence of caramel in the middle which tastes wonderful. There's a roasted profile in the aroma that fails to make an appearance on the tongue.

M- Medium-light bodied with moderate carbonation. It starts dry upfront then thickens into an oily sweetness.

D- Highly drinkable, this beer has a lot going for it.

This beer really surprised me. I wasn't expecting much from Spoetzl after trying their Shiner Bock. Shiner Bock is their signatures brew, but I guess you shouldn't base your assumptions of their others brews off of it. Their Hefeweizen really surprised me as well.

Photo of rangerred
3.83/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle from Shiner family reunion variety pack into a pint glass.

Pours a clear copper with a decent one finger head. Pretty good head retention and lacing.

Aroma is flowery hops along with caramel and toffee.

The taste is flower hops along with some caramel malt. Bitterness is moderate and lasts throughout. The caramel and toffee flavors really come out towards the finish.

Overall this is a pretty good beer. I am very pleased that Shiner has come out with this and if offered in six packs I would definitely buy.

Photo of blakelive784
3.1/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

12 fl oz bottle served in a pint glass, reviewed live:

A- Pours a transparent copper/orange color with a decently creamy head of two fingers. Retention is mediocre, but I'm surprised at that even.

S - Caramel, toast, cream, and bright floral notes. Interesting.

T - Cream and caramel open to lovely floral notes and pear. Finishes a bit bitter to nicely contrast the otherwise sweet body. Simple, but well executed.

M - Crisp and light. The light body can't transport the flavors where they should be.

D - This beer has actually given me some hope for the brewery. It's nothing special, but it's an easy drinking beer I'd have again.

Photo of siradmiralnelson
3.3/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz bottle into Tulip.

A. Poured 2 finger head. Decent retention. Moderate lacing.

S. Yeast, some floral hop bitterness. Has some moderate caramel malt smell.

T. Caramel malt, some hops, and a weird off flavor, maybe best described as grassy or herbal. Not a whole lot of flavor.

M. Light bodied. Medium low carbonation. Finishes dry.

O. Interesting beer. Smell promises some hops, but flavor does not live up to anything very malty or hoppy. Really kind of strange herbal flavor.

Photo of match1112
3.98/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a two finger off white head sits atop a clear copper colored body. the head slowly fades to a spotty cap leaving some nice lacing behind. smells of caramel malts, bread and biscuits, a little sweetfruit and some floral hops. taste is a nice bready malt with some hops to blend and balance. mouthfeel has a medium body feel with decent carbonation and a slight dry finish. overall this is my favorite from these guys, i knew they could do it!

Photo of smakawhat
3.85/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle into a Gaffel Kolsch stange glass.

A very large bubbled head is made off white and faint tan in color. Sitting on a nice copper amber brown body, crystal clear with lots of cola sized bubbles on the glass. Head manages some retention and there is also some tiny rising carbonation in the middle.

Nose is a light bread malt, small touch of honey. Fairly simple but good and solid.

Taste is fairly interesting. At first mid palate doesn't present much malt tones, and it's slightly wet and watery. Sweetness comes out with a little brown sugar, but then a real nice baked bread as well. Slightly spicy too.

Kind of an interesting Alt, almost "refreshing", in a sense. This one's pretty good from this brewery considering the rest of their lineup. I'd probably choose a different altbier though if I had the choice.

Photo of mikeg67
3.66/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle. Pours copper hue with a short lived, thick, off-white head. Aroma is of caramel malt, floral hops and ripe fruit. Medium, tangy body. Earthy hops, and caramel malt balanced on the palate. Long, bitter, dry finish. The best Shiner brew IMO.

Photo of rebel1771
4/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark honey color with a big frothy white head that fades slowly and leaves a nice lacing behind.

S: Sweet malty aroma with hints of raisins and dried fruit.

T: Toasted malt flavor up front with a dry slightly bitter finish. Spot on.

O: This is probably my favorite offering from Spoetzl to date. Everything fits just right with this one.

Photo of bmwats
3.78/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a stange.

A: Dark amber. Pours about a 2 finger, frothy, brown-white head. Settles slowly, leaving some nice residue behind as it does. Lots o' beer ring lacing.

S: Italian bread, pecan shells, and molasses.

T: Rye bread, pecan shells, and strong presence of tea leaves.

M: Light yet full flavored. A little washed out, with a dry slightly bitter, slightly sweet finish.

D: Light enough to drink through, but a bitter enough finish to slow your pace.

Atmosphere is good. Dark amber hue, a really nice foamy head, and lots of lacing. Nose is a very full nutty, baked bread combination with lots o' molasses. Flavor is bitter rye bread, and fresh tea leaves. Overall, this is a good quaff.

Photo of AmberMan22
3.73/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of the bottle into a standard pint glass. Not my best pour, maybe a finger of eggshell colored foam adorns the top of the beer. Head retention is solid, aided slightly by a good glass. Respectable amount of lacing. Color is a perfectly clear and appropriate copper color. All in all, it looks quite good.

The nose is slightly subdued (compared to where I would like it) but is pleasant. Some sweet munich and caramel malts are dominant, capped with a light peppery hoppiness.

The taste is a slight letdown. The presence of a biscuity flavor is a bit distracting, diminishing the otherwise appropriately balanced malts and hops.
While the taste is dominated by the malts, the hops shine through in the aftertaste. Old-time has a decent heft to it, carrying some weight but remaining far from heavy.

Overall, the taste lets me down just enough to qualify this as a regular drinker. It's certainly a matter of opinion, and this alt-bier is certainly worth a try.

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Shiner Old-Time Alt from Spoetzl Brewery / Shiner
82 out of 100 based on 178 ratings.