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Quincedence - Jackie O's Pub & Brewery

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59 Ratings
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Ratings: 59
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 3.74
pDev: 14.97%
Wants: 29
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
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Jackie O's Pub & Brewery visit their website
Ohio, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Thorpe429 on 01-04-2011)
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t0rin0

California

3.5/5  rDev -6.4%

10-17-2012 01:39:59 | More by t0rin0
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Thorpe429

Illinois

4.38/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Brad for setting me up with a bottle of this.

Pours a pretty dark brown color with a good single-finger off-white head and a touch of lacing on the way down. Thin collar around the edges of my tulip. The nose hits me pretty strong right away. I've only had quince once, but it certainly did a number on this beer. The Cabernet barrels are present there as well. Really nice acidity--mostly lactic but a bit of a light acetic presence in the finish. Everything integrates quite well. The quince contribution is a bit difficult to define, but you'll know it when you smell it.

The same is true of the taste, which is equally as nice and intriguing. Lovely fruit mixes with Cabernet and the barrel. The fruit presence is at the right level, providing a touch of sweetness to balance the acidity and really complements the fruit flavor. Really nice sour character in this brew and the barrel comes out well. I really enjoyed this beer and am excited for the bottle release. At the same time, the quince component is certainly unique and I'm sure one's appreciation of this beer really depends on how agreeable you are with the quince. Thanks again, Brad.

Serving type: bottle

01-04-2011 02:37:26 | More by Thorpe429
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mikesgroove

South Carolina

4.03/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured into a snifter and enjoyed on 7/1/2011

pours out a dark murky brown, for some reason i was expecting more of a light color, but very nice look to it with good lacing and a prominant head on top.

First whiff seems a bit light to be honest, light funk, sour notes, pears, and hints of malts starting to come though. No alcohol present at all and the sour seems very understated at this point. The forst sip totally redeems it though as the sour fruits and oak notes start to perk up. Nice touches of grapeskins, sour, sour grapefruit like flavors rip through the palate. Dark fruits, prunes, hints of vanilla and light notes of brown sugar can be picked up through the haze of barnyard funk. Rich medium body is more then well carbonated and really lets the flavor pop across the palate. Final sips are dy, vinegar rich and full of apple and pear back flavors. i am guessing the apples and pears are the quince? no clue but it tasted damn nice and was much sweeter then i thought it would be.

not a home run but a decent hit for jackie for sure.

Serving type: bottle

07-02-2011 01:40:15 | More by mikesgroove
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womencantsail

California

2.83/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Believe it was Rich that shared this beer.

A: The pour is a dark brown color with a tall off-white head.

S: Really a weird nose. Pretty heavy on the malts, especially toffee and toast. There is a mild tartness to it (quince?), and some light fruit notes. Quite a bit of barrel, especially char.

T: The flavor isn't really any better. Roast and charred oak with some tartness and dark fruits. There is a bit of sweetness and toffee. Heavy wine flavor and tannins are really overpowering.

M: Medium in body with a medium carbonation.

O: This was not enjoyable. All the wrong flavors were intense/dominant.

Serving type: bottle

06-29-2011 04:31:52 | More by womencantsail
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westcoastbeerlvr

California

3.25/5  rDev -13.1%

11-15-2011 17:45:41 | More by westcoastbeerlvr
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MasterSki

Illinois

3.03/5  rDev -19%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to Sean for sharing this one. Served in a Nolet's taster tulip. A scottish ale aged in wine barrels with quince.

A - Big tan foam that settles to a thin cap and thicker collar, leaving behind nice splotchy lacework. Semi-transparent red-brown color with a ruby glow to it. Quite attractive.

S - Smell is...odd. A combination of peated malts, Jolly Rancher sour apple candy, and vinous notes. Flavors are clear and defined, but don't seem to integrate very well.

T - Again, it's a strange mix of smokey and treacle malts, tart apples, and an intensely tannic, starchy finish (I'm guessing from the quince). Not particularly "wild" at this point.

M - Medium bodied, with medium carbonation and well-hidden alcohol. Very dry, with tannic fruit husk character in the finish.

D - Probably my least favorite Jackie O's offering. If you're going to chose a base beer like this one for a wild, it probably needs a lot of time and aggressive "bugs" to develop (a la Good Mojo, which took nearly 8 years). I'd skip this and have one of their stouts instead.

Serving type: bottle

03-29-2011 16:09:18 | More by MasterSki
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drabmuh

Maryland

4.33/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An awesome oddity shared by Thorpe the other day. This beer reminded me of a mix between consecration and supplication in the acidity and fruit presence.

Beer is dark brown and hazy with a thin head of off white bubbles that forms a halo around the rim of the glass, carbonation is relatively low and there isn't much lacing.

Aroma is strong with some acetic brightness, citric fruitiness, and a lactic backbone, this is going to be super sour isn't it?

Beer is quite sour, the fruit (quince) is really bright on the palate and ends with this cherry like tartness at the corners of the mouth, it's a pretty good beer. The mild acetic character to it makes it even better. It brightens the flavors of the quince and moves them further back on the palate. I suspect that this is a relatively high alcohol sour but I would definitely have more of it.

Serving type: bottle

01-05-2011 18:27:05 | More by drabmuh
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Slatetank

Pennsylvania

3.95/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Stakem for bringing this to my wild ale tasting yesterday. Poured from the chilled 22oz into a tulip.

The color is deep ruddy brown w/ translucent clarity and small beige cap which is made up of tightly packed bubbles and spotty lace clings to the glasss. The smell is unique as the fruit that is used in the brew -very vinous yet earty with a slight toasted element from the dark malts and hints of the wine barrel giving off some slight sour aromas. The feel is good with a nice amount of carbonation, yet it has a very dry and astringent quality which makes it hard to consume in large swallows. The roasted tinges are there in the texture along with mellow fruity tanginess.

The taste is certainly the strangest thing I have had recently with all of the components : scotch ale, wine barrel and quince combined to make a real frankenstein of a beer. The flavor is slight toasted and earthy like a scottish ale with the mild smoke notes and light cocoa effect, yet there is some wine tannin in the taste and odd tropical yet bitter quince flavors in the background giving a real odd, not quite unbalanced, yet slightly disjointed taste. I enjoy it at the same time it is an anomoly. The drinkability is both good and off I could definitely finish a bomber myself, but it is good for sharing. I think if you dislike the flavor of quince you won't enjoy this. I really like quince even though a little goes a long way.

Serving type: bottle

02-14-2011 23:19:16 | More by Slatetank
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oline73

Maryland

3.68/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

We had this at a tasting hosted by finewinemike. He also provided this bottle. Poured into a Chimay goblet.

Appearance: Pours a very dark brown that had a red tint at the edges. There is a layer of light tan head and a decent amount of retention.

Smell: Sweet malt with some fruit and a mildly sour vinegar like note.

Taste: This beer is very interesting. A bit smokey with some malt sweetness and mild fruit. There is a good amount of sourness, but the finish was a bit muddles and confusing for me.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tingly carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I thought some of the flavors in this beer clashed a bit. Very interesting and not bad, just a bit weird. Really cool to get to try this.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2011 01:28:31 | More by oline73
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akorsak

Pennsylvania

3.9/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A scotch ale base, aged in wine barrels, funked up with quince added. What the hell is quince? Bottle 95 of 204, thanks to stakem.

A: The ale is a dark chocolately color, like a good scotch ale should be. A thin head accompanied the ale, quickly disappearing.

S: The tannic dryness is immediately evident. Scotch bodies, malty and rich, are fleeting in the nose (they come through fully in the taste). Sour notes follow the wine barrel, along with a fruity sweetness.

T: An interesting melange of flavors. The tannic flavors, incredibly dry, are strong, sapping any residual sweetness (pre-fruit). Behind the wine, a peated scotch ale emerges, chewy and rich. That base beer aspect is fleeting, yielding to a mild fruit sweetness. The funkiness conspires with the tannins to further dry out the body, adding a dirty citric taste. Interesting, no doubt about it. I'm not entirely sold on darker sour beers, the juxtaposition just seems inappropriate.

M: The mouthfeel is sweet and sour, an unusual pairing of wine barrel, funk, and fruit. The scotch ale that appears mid-sip is a highlight.

D: I believe that the beer weighs in around 9%, a big heavy beer that packs a great deal of complexity into bomber.

Serving type: bottle

02-14-2011 01:45:50 | More by akorsak
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stakem

Pennsylvania

3.93/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle #75/204 secured at Jackie O's release and shared with friends.

This brew pours a deep ruby brown color with pretty decent clarity when held to the light. A tan cap of foam appears and as it slowly recedes leaves a webbing of lace on the glass.

The aroma of this brew is toasty with notes of caramel mixed with oak. There is a vinous aspect that mixes with a funky note. A light amount of vanilla sweetness coupled with a light metallic twang note emerges. This brew has an interesting nose, it is deep and complex but doesn't totally meld well together, it is somewhat haphazard and like I am smelling a different offering each time I bring my nose to the glass.

The taste of this brew is tangy and a bit sharp with a contrasting modest bitterness that is lightly acidic yet enjoyable. The funky portion of this brew coupled with metallic notes and seemingly smoked base create a bit of a flavor that I perceive as being quite plastic-like. More sips create a deeper flavoring of minerals and light smoked character. Once this brew comes up to temperature, the smoked aspect of this brews malt really comes forward.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest amount of carbonation. Bubbly in the feel and easy drinking. Not overly sour so it is fairly easy to approach but the vast contrasts in flavors make this brew quite peculiar. I had no problems finishing my portion and reaching for more but this really is strange and quite a unique offering to wrap your tongue around. I'd love to see Brad revisit something like this but with a different base beer, the smoked malt coupled with bitter fruit and funk was a bit too different.

Serving type: bottle

02-15-2011 18:49:00 | More by stakem
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Huhzubendah

District of Columbia

4/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle shared by Thorpe429 and Amyliz4. Thanks Mike and Amy!

A: The beer appears dark brown with crimson highlights. The head is light beige, about a half inch thick, has good retention, and leaves some nice lacing on the glass.

S: The aroma is unique. Sour, funky, odd, boozy, fruity, wild - it's definitely intriguing and has piqued my curiosity.

T: The beer is quite piquant. Again, the flavor is unlike any other I have yet found in a beer, and thus, a bit challenging to accurately describe. Surely, the quince fruit is largely responsible for these unusual flavors. The beer has a nice tannic quality to it, as well as an oak aroma and taste from the barrels. There is a healthy level of sourness / funkiness that, along with the wine, quince, and oak barrel, make for a beer with deep complexities.

M: Boozy and sour, funky and odd. Medium bodied, with appropriate carbonation.

D: What an interesting and memorable beer. Well worth a try.

Serving type: bottle

01-04-2011 17:00:38 | More by Huhzubendah
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zestar

California

3.5/5  rDev -6.4%

01-31-2014 11:52:15 | More by zestar
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TurdFurgison

Ohio

4/5  rDev +7%

11-14-2011 11:08:19 | More by TurdFurgison
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AgentZero

Illinois

3.95/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Dark brown colored beer with an off-white head that had some moderate lacing.

S - Really interesting nose on this, which I'm assuming is due to the quince. Bit of an earthy barrel nose with some vinous notes and a light, sweet fruity aroma that I found pretty appealing. Some peat, funk, and sour notes as well. Complex.

T - Peaty and tannic on the front, with a rush of sweet fruit flavor which once again I will guess is the quince. Some interesting malt notes. I actually liked this a lot more than most in my tasting group, and think it might get better with some time.

M - Decently carbonated, medium bodied.

O - I kind of like this, there is a big fruit rush at the end, and the base beer is interesting. Apparently it's somewhat polarizing, I'd be curious to see what this one does in a couple years.

Serving type: bottle

05-04-2011 21:00:41 | More by AgentZero
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bsuedekum

Missouri

2.5/5  rDev -33.2%

01-02-2013 01:08:49 | More by bsuedekum
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sweemzander

Illinois

3.08/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

22oz. bottle poured into a snifter. Thanks again to Kyle for sharing! Bottle # 194/204.

(A)- Pours a deep dark brown color with some white bubbles.

(S)- A lightly tart apple and pear aroma. Some malty richness behind that with obvious vinous qualities.

(T)- Very similar to the smell. A light tart apple/pear aspect with a rich malty raisin and dark fruit/wine-like characteristics.

(M)- A good carbonation level. Lightly tart and fruity with a rich raisin background.

(D)- An interesting take on the style. Sweet and tart with a nice rich foundation. Age would help this alot, but I just feel like its really missing alot of sour and funky attributes I like to see for a wild.

Serving type: bottle

03-22-2011 17:19:34 | More by sweemzander
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cpetrone84

Pennsylvania

3.18/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at the release party at the pub.

A-pours a dark cola brown with little to no tan colored head.

S-the nose is of sweet green apple and a touch of pear, light bretty undertones but faint, there are some sweet dark malts and notes of dry oak.

T-this is very sweet almost cloying. oaky and brett up front with golden fruits and lots of sugary flavors. sweet dark malts from the base beer are lightly evident in the back and a hint of sourness but faint.

M-medium body and slightly griany on the palate with a very dry finish.

D-overly sweet and messy. te sweet malts of the scottishand the sugars of the fruit make it so sugary, the sourness is very light and the brett isn't vibrant. this is drinkable as the fruits are interesting but all the sugar detracts from overall quality.

Serving type: on-tap

02-15-2011 16:07:58 | More by cpetrone84
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DavoleBomb

Ohio

4.45/5  rDev +19%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a tulip. 2011 vintage, bottle #96 of 204.

4.5 A: Opaque plum color. Two fingers of thick creamy beige head with good retention and glass covering lacing.

4.5 S: There's an unbelievable amount of aromas comming off of this. Every step of the process comes through with varying strength. The lightest aromas of those of the Scottish ale. There's just a touch of caramel and peat, but it adds to the totality of the brew. Cabernet is a bit stronger with vanillins and tannins making similar contributions. The strange fruitiness, which must come from the quince (I have no idea what these even look like aside from the pic on the label) works great with the vinous grape aroma. The quince aroma can't really be described with other fruits, but I'd say it's something between a pear and a dirty diaper. Some brett funk and some tart lactic component, but not overwhelming.

4.5 T: The base beer is much more apparent in the taste. The caramel, peat, and breadiness comes through much stronger. Less vinous character than the nose, but more tannic astringency, vanilla, and oak. Quince and wild apple fruitiness with the apple being of the funky brett variety. Mildly tart, but far from a straight up sour. A lot more funky than the nose with musky basement and rotting wood joining the wild apple. This has a moderate "Jackie O's" flavor in it. Alcohol is undetectable.

4.0 M: Medium body. Carbonation is on the higher end, but works really well. Reasonably creamy and quite smooth for what it is.

4.5 D: This is a very tasty beer now, but I think this will be insanely good in a few years after the bugs have more time to develop. Never tasted a quince before, but it seems like they have a place in the beer world.

Serving type: bottle

04-11-2011 22:55:19 | More by DavoleBomb
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AlexFields

Tennessee

3.75/5  rDev +0.3%

01-07-2013 00:05:51 | More by AlexFields
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koopa

New Jersey

2.98/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle # 31 of 204 received in a trade.

Appearance: Pours dark brown with a 1 finger khaki crown that displays medium retention and some lace.

Smell: Wine, apples, a light wildness, and a dark malty base.

Taste: Oh wow much worse than I expected. Sweet tarts, raisins, sour crab apples, wine and a terrible quince pith. When the "featured ingredient" is the worst aspect of the flavor profile I must ask why the beer was made at all.

ALMOST A DRAIN POUR

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with average carbonation. Not offensive but completely boring.

Overall: WTF is overall? The drinkability is held back by the flavor. Perhaps some aging would allow the wild yeast to develop and the "back side of a lime with boat loads of grapefruit pith" quince flavor to disappear. I guess I like my quince 1 way - being quoted in the film "White Men Can't Jump" by Rosie Perez while on Jeopardy and answering questions from the category "Foods that begin with the letter Q"

Serving type: bottle

03-22-2011 22:20:07 | More by koopa
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Arbitrator

California

2.65/5  rDev -29.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Chilled bottle into a glass, opened to celebrate my defense. Thanks, Ted.

A: Pours a cola brown body. It's dark in the center, but translucent at the edges. It has a beige head with poor retention.

S: It's tart and vinous -- specifically, cabernet or merlot. The red grape aroma is unmistakable.

T: Cabernet manifests itself up front, lending a vinous note to the whole flavor. It carries a light tartness, as well. Mild vanilla and some oak. I pick up hints of caramel and toffee, but the base beer is otherwise quite well hidden. I don't really know what quince tastes like, but there is a key-lime like flavor and some tannic bitterness that reminds me of old apple skins (this pulls into the finish). The wild yeast doesn't seem to have done much to the beer yet; it has a way to go to dry out, and the finish has maybe light hints of funk, and that's only because I'm searching for it.

M: The brett seems like it hasn't had time to do its work. The wine barrel is the most expressive, along with perhaps the fruit, which I can't really tell because I don't know what quince tastes like. The bitterness in the finish is clashing.

D: To be 100% honest (and maybe cynical), the label description reads like a series of one-up attempts to cover up an infection. Overall, I feel like the base beer was poorly chosen, and it is obliterated by the barrel, fruit, and brett treatments. I didn't hate it, but I was pretty meh about it.

Serving type: bottle

03-07-2011 09:03:29 | More by Arbitrator
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Phelps

Arizona

4.3/5  rDev +15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Shared by whiterascal. Bottle #28 of 204 (delicious rarity!) poured into a snifter.

Quincedence has a virtual novel written on the bottle that explains its pedigree, but here’s the gist: it began life as a Scottish ale, then is was aged for a time in cabernet barrels. Some Brettanomyces and 20 pounds of the mysterious quince3 fruit was added, and lo and behold, Quincedence was born.

Deep cola brown in color, with just a bit of clarity. A one-finger head of fizzy cream pops away within seconds to a thin ring.

Great, complex aroma: butter, toffee, caramel, a light brett funk and a bit of sweet earthy citrus I expect is the fruit.

More funkiness in the flavor, met by sweet fruit. Oaky vanilla, smoky peat, red wine, a nice amount of chocolate, caramel, toffee and tart citrus. Earthy dryness moves in at the finish. Very complex.

Medium body with light carbonation and moderate fizziness as it moves. The alcohol burn is astounding, in that it doesn’t exist. 9.5 percent and I can’t feel a thing.

It’s no coincidence that I like Quincedence — the beer is wonderfully complex and drinkable. I’ve never had the fruit it’s named after before, but I’m inspired to go get one.

Serving type: bottle

05-19-2011 18:59:07 | More by Phelps
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Photekut

Tennessee

4.5/5  rDev +20.3%

08-29-2012 21:44:59 | More by Photekut
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Spider889

Ohio

4.5/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

This was possibly the beer I most looked forward to at the latest release. I pegged it as the dark horse; the description just sounded too interesting, but awkward enough that the hype train seemed to more or less leave it alone.

Little did they know that this was the clear winner of the day - easily the best of the three new bottle releases last weekend, and possibly my favorite Jackie O's beer to date.

At first glance this looked nearly identical to the various DA treatments being served Saturday. It's dark, nearly black from a distance. When you actually pick up the glass and examine it, you can see that it is a charred brown color instead. It had very minimal, but very dark, head to it - the head was a deep toffee color. Sadly my tiny 4oz glass was too small to check out any potential lace.

So, how's it smell? All I have to say is wow, this beer is a definite sour, and I was really pleased to discover that my hopes had come to fruition here. Deep and complex, tendrils of sour plum and light white wine vinegar waft my way. Green skins and an almost maple sweetness also weave in and out between the heavy handed brett. If you try hard mild smoke and roasted barley are not far behind.

The flavor begins with a nice puckering sourness. There's some acidity akin to white grapes and green plums. The sourness leans closer to the green apple side, with the steady but mild sweetness you'd get from pears. I can honestly say I haven't ever eaten a Quince, so I'll just assume that they taste similar to an apple or pear.

The base beer is a scotch ale, and this really comes through as well - there's a heavy-handed maltiness to this beer that surprised me, given how sour it is. My experience with sours is limited to lighter brews, so a malt-driven beast of a base beer was quite unexpected. I am not sure if this is a good or bad thing though. Take away some of the darker malts and suddenly the Quincedence might lose much of its appeal, however, I personally found the dark malting to be a little much, and ultimately detracting from the other amazing qualities of this one. The malt is bitter and dry, with notes of chocolate and smoked barley, and even a little coffee as well.

This is one case where the high carbonation was very appropriate; as the bubbles helped to speed forth the aroma and rush the many subtleties of the beer across your palate. The alcohol is warming in the throat, but not inappropriate in any way. As was the case with many of the Jackie O's beers of the day, this beer was dry, dry, dry. But with a sour that is somewhat expected, so I didn't mind nearly as much as with some of the other brews.

I found this to be very drinkable, and the only beer I truly wanted to drink multiples of at the release (granted I was aiming to sample as many beers as possible).

Very well-done Brad. All the hype-fanatics out there need to pay attention to this beer, it's a true gem, and a worthy sour to have in any cellar.

Serving type: on-tap

02-11-2011 09:25:56 | More by Spider889
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Quincedence from Jackie O's Pub & Brewery
84 out of 100 based on 59 ratings.