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Sleigh'r Dark Doüble Alt Ale - Ninkasi Brewing Company

Sleigh'r Dark Doüble Alt AleSleigh'r Dark Doüble Alt Ale

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BA SCORE
85
very good

352 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 352
Reviews: 133
rAvg: 3.76
pDev: 12.77%


Brewed by:
Ninkasi Brewing Company visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Altbier |  7.20% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
Called 'Dark Double Alt' on the label.

Ninkasi website:
"7.2% alc./vol. 50 ibus."

(Beer added by: msubulldog25 on 01-08-2009)
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flexabull

California

4.1/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear and dark amber color with a nice white head, decent lacing as well.

Aromas are of baked apples, roasted malts, caramel, and earthy hops.

Taste is very malty, some cocoa, caramel, toasty dark breads, and baked apples. Finish is crisp, warming, with earthy hop flavors. This beer seems very fitting for cold weather.

Mouthfeel is good, full, smooth, and with snappy carbonation.

Drinkability is quite high. This is another solid beer, from a very nice lineup from Ninkasi. As mentioned before, this beer is a nice example of the "winter warmer" style.

Serving type: bottle

10-31-2010 20:13:50 | More by flexabull
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Stigs

Pennsylvania

4.1/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - pours with a bit over a finger of slightly creamy, thick light tan colored foam. the beer is mostly clear, very deep amber in color. small patches of wet lace left behind.

S - rich chocolately malts, toasted nuts, crusty bread, and malted candies.

T - begins with traces of porter-like roasted malt, chocolate, roasted nuts and a slight bit of coffee before turning sweeter. caramel, toffee, and some dark fruits creep in. light bit of citrusy and earthy hops come alongside moderate bitterness.

M - thin to medium bodied, with moderate and fizzy carbonation. sweetness brings some dryness as well, though goes down a bit oily. finish only slightly chalky.

D - nice balance, warming but not harsh, and overall pretty tasty. very well suited for the winter months.

Serving type: bottle

12-29-2010 02:21:25 | More by Stigs
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Offa

California

4.1/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is an excellent, full-bodied beer, fairly balanced, interesting with good complexity.

Very dark copper-brown, it has a medium tan head steadily shrinking to a creamy thin top, then foamy ring and a little lace.

Aroma is dark caramelised, very toasty barley with dry leaves, hint of wood, very toasty and caramelly overall with hint of caramelised bacon.

Taste is a lot of toasted barley (singed, almost burnt), caramelised dry leaves and wood, black pepper. A burnt-pepper bitterness just dominates dark toffee sweetness at finish but backs off before becoming too bitter. Bitterness lingers with some hints of sweet, dark dried fruits and a light winey element. Bitterness is just a touch too assertive at end but it has good character and flavour. Feel is good, solid, not heavy.

Serving type: bottle

01-02-2011 01:04:32 | More by Offa
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RickS95

Indiana

4.06/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Amber brown in color with plenty of clarity. Fits the style. The head is what's gorgeous and really makes the score here. It's a creamy foam up top. Different sized bubbles, but cream is the word of the day. Decent retention from the finger and a half thick head, the color is a light tan. Full lace.

All malt. Smells like dessert. Caramel, milk chocolate, expresso scents come wafting up. No sign of hops, it really does smell like a yummy dessert.

The scents in the nose becomes flavors on the tongue with the caramel, chocolate, and coffee being accounted for. However, the chocolate is more bittersweet and the coffee is no longer sweet. Hop presence is clearly noted/Noble.

An initial burst of sweetness from all the malt is quickly offset by plenty of bittering agents. It's got some balance, though the overall score favors bitterness over sweetness. For a while, it smooth and creamy, but that gives way to a strong, lingering bitterness. All the while you can feel the sweetness trying to make a comeback, but the bitter is just a little stronger.

Overall, it's a really good beer and shouldn't necessarily be a winter beer as this would be good year round with that dry bitter finish. Really happy a friend from just north of the Washington-Oregon state line sent me this.

Serving type: bottle

01-06-2014 03:44:44 | More by RickS95
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KBomb

Minnesota

4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A wonderfully colored beer: dark brown body that's nearly black, but a beautiful shade of crimson glows as light filters through the edges. A bold aroma of crystal malt and that distinct laggery alt smell. Taste is the moderately sweet alt flavor we expect and well balanced with an amped up dose of hops. The beer's only downside is that the hop flavor is a little one-dimensional, leaving a bitter aftertaste that lacks some character. Still, a flavorful beer with voluptuous texture. Great winter drinking when one needs a break from the typical winter stouts and ales.

Serving type: bottle

03-09-2011 04:25:43 | More by KBomb
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DanielDomigan

Florida

4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Fucking metal holiday artwork

copper color sparkling lacing around snifter

no smell really at all some maltyness

in the beginning sweet chocolate roasty taste with slight cherry hints and caramel malt hidden within and then a hoppy bitter finish

light syrupy mouth feel with light carbonation

defiantly a beer worthy of slayers name

Serving type: bottle

11-16-2013 06:49:36 | More by DanielDomigan
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ccrida

Oregon

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On draught at Henry's, Sleigh'r is mahogany with a fluffy off-white head with long last, leaving heavy sheets of creamy, foamy lace. Very nice.

Smell is very pure malt, not overly sweet, with a bit of toast, like the robust brown ale that it is.

Taste is similar, nice and rich, but balanced maltiness, clean with a pleasant warming sensation the only indication of the ABV.

Mouthfeel is creamy, with a medium body.

Drinkability is good, this is a nice malty brown, very well made, satisfying but dangerously smooth.

Serving type: on-tap

02-26-2010 00:51:40 | More by ccrida
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snaotheus

Washington

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a large mug. Don't remember when or where I bought this bottle. I hope it's in good shape.

Pours a dark, rich brown with a big frothy beige head, looks like it's leaving some magnificent lacing down the sides of the glass. Looks fairly translucent, carbonation is not very active. Smell is nutty, rich, and malty.

Taste has a strange sourness to it which isn't too great, but it's nutty and bready, with a thick bitterness that is hard for me to describe, but it's pretty pleasant.

Mouthfeel is not too thick, but a little sticky. Tasty, drinkable beer.

Serving type: bottle

09-26-2010 05:47:46 | More by snaotheus
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djeucalyptus

Oregon

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours a stunningly striking dark caramel brown. Voluminous two-plus finger head has impressive retention and leaves behind some beautiful lacing. wow.

aroma is fair... not as pungent as expected, but bright caramel malt, hints of vanilla, maybe a hint of dark cherry sweetness. Earthy and rustic. Smells pretty Altbier-like. Interesting.

Taste is beautifully balanced. Mellow and smooth yet still powerful, spicy and full flavored. malty yet there's still some substantial hopping. Sweet yet bitter, mellow yet pungent. Really well balanced, as a true Alt should be. just as the label implies, it's a good bit stronger than an average Alt, but the characteristics really shine through.

Mouth is full with some piquant bitterness hitting the tongue up front, then the caramel sweetness caresses the palette. A bit on the carbonated side but it fits the flavors nicely.

All in all, this is a pretty impressive brew. It doesn't really fit the name, nor the label, as it's neither heavy metal nor holiday spiced, but it's one impressively delicious brew that's definitely worth seeking out.

Serving type: bottle

11-16-2010 02:03:43 | More by djeucalyptus
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HuskyinPDX

Washington

4.03/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Taken from notes on 2.18.11.

22oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

A - Brownish amber with red edges. Off-white head that lingers. Good lacing.

S - Mostly boozy here.

T - Nutty, Spicey, and slightly like ginger bread.

D - Drinks extremely easy and smooth.

Serving type: bottle

05-30-2011 22:33:45 | More by HuskyinPDX
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psychoholicagogo

Oregon

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark amber with mildly off white head. Retention is medium. Malt forward flavor profile with hints of dark fruit and bread plus mild tobacco notes. Bitterness is medium, lingering well into a dry finish. The hop character is very subdued in both aroma and flavor, but is apparent though balanced throughout. A good drinker, but not session material at 7.2%

Serving type: bottle

11-27-2009 08:24:57 | More by psychoholicagogo
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jdense

Oregon

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle from John's Marketplace PDX poured into Chimay chalice 12/30/09.

Dark brown body, a bit of chill haze, substantial off white head, slow dissipation, an impressive looking beer. The nose is quite malty, a bit more sweet than bready, not much hop presence to speak of. The taste is the same as nose, with a slight smokiness, and some caramel malts, pretty well balanced. The finish is a bit bitter, was wondering when the hops would appear, pretty viscuous. Mouthfeel features significant carbonation. Drinkable yes (though a bit boozy for the style,more of a sipper than a quaffer), memorable no. To be honest, the second best Christmas beer from Eugene I've had this year, after Oakshire's Ill Tempered Gnome.

Serving type: bottle

01-02-2010 22:49:10 | More by jdense
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CHILLINDYLAN

Washington

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark browned amber. A finger of thick tanned head that leaves small webby organic laces.

Roasty and dark, nutty, sweet caramel, smoke, pine, and dark cherries.

Toasty caramel, earthy and smokey, a little nutty. Spicy and herbal pine. Nice bite of bitterness. warming.

Sticky, dry, and smooth. a little chewy. well carbonated.

Great tasty warmer that goes down very well. Good balance with a nice hop rush.

Serving type: bottle

02-10-2010 23:16:03 | More by CHILLINDYLAN
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Beerandraiderfan

Nevada

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Tuttle for breaking this out the night before Hopfest! Went into it thinking, ah, I dunno, not my style/thing, but figured, hey, good friend, opening beers, love Ninkasi, made it easy to go along.

Poured out a rich dark brown and red, but with ample clarity given its deep color. Very interesting aroma, maybe just because of the Christmas theme, I was getting caramel nuttiness, cinammon, taragon, tobacco, pepper, spice/clove. Really deep.

Taste, so much easier than I thought it would be. And more sweetness, but never becoming a 'sweet' beer, ample malt bill and other ingredients seemed to tame this bad boy. Nothing about hops to talk about. About the dryest finish of a beer of this style/vibe I've come around, not heavy, creamy at times, not super challenging, just lots to pick up on. Unique. When the wave of smooth and creamy hits you, you start wondering if there is some flaked oats used in this. Whatever they did, it was enjoyable.

Of course, it looks like a winter seasonal, we drank it in September, so i dunno if this aged and mellowed or whatnot, because that split bomber is my only insight, so I guess at the very least I can say this beer does just fine aged up to 9 months.

Serving type: bottle

10-02-2010 04:24:42 | More by Beerandraiderfan
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Flightoficarus

Washington

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Finally getting around to trying this one!

A - Pours a deep, dark brown (almost black), with a two-finger off-white head. Head retention and lacing is on the creamy/thick side.

S - Alot going on here! Caramel, molasses, cocoa, nuttiness, a hint of fruits (orange, cherry), and subtle hops.

T - Superbly balanced. Taste is of roasted, cocoa/coffee like malts with some nutty and smoked/peat like tones (like a scotch ale), and finishes with a bouquet of subtle, floral hops. Right around the middle ground between malty and hoppy.

M - Medium bodied and light carbonation, with a semi-bready texture to it.

D - Pretty drinkable for 7.2%, but I still wouldn't session it.

Overall - A nice little gem in the winter ale/altbier categories, and with a rad name to boot! If you're looking for a solid, balanced beer that's on the darker side without being quite as bitter/roasted tasting as a porter or stout, you'll enjoy this one.

Serving type: bottle

10-18-2010 08:25:48 | More by Flightoficarus
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DamDweller

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ninkasi Sleighr Ale, 2010

Pour a dark dark brown color with a small cream colored head. Smells like nutty chocolate with a hint of mint. The taste is strong on chocolate and hops. It seems more like a porter than an altbier. The nutty smell isn't really there on the tongue as would be expected from an altbier while it also has strong carbonation. The mouthfeel is great. It drinks very clean and crisp. The sweet chocolate lingers on the tongue well.

Serving type: bottle

11-28-2010 01:32:43 | More by DamDweller
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BDTyre

British Columbia (Canada)

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice dark altbier. Looks almost like a porter, but a little more brown in the body.

Malty, almost smoky in the nose. Slightly sweet. Nice, roasted taste with a bit of smokiness and coffee to it. Faint hints of chocolate and caramel. Very light and enjoyable.

Light in the mouth, but fitting for the style. A nice dark take on the alt style.

Serving type: bottle

12-29-2010 06:13:14 | More by BDTyre
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barleywinefiend

Washington

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A:Poured a deep, dark brown with a small dirty white head

S: Caramelized sugar, toasted malt and a fruitcake

T: Some cocoa, caramel, toffee, hints at coffee, some cherries.

M: Well carbonated, nice feel, slight booze feel but pretty mellow isnce this a 2009 vintage.

O: Pretty drinkable for 7.2 ABV

Serving type: bottle

11-11-2011 15:33:22 | More by barleywinefiend
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jpbebeau

Washington

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into tulip; I don't have a slender cylinder.

A: Pours a very dark reddish-brown, with only the faintest bit of translucency to accentuate the color. A finger's worth of head quickly dissipates, leaving several soap-like bubbles clinging to the edge. Faint carbonation ever so slightly disturbs the surface at the center. As the volume of liquid decreases, more light is let through and an attractive orange hue reveals itself. Perhaps if I'd had a Stange I could've enjoyed the color through the whole glass.

S: Sweet malts, dark fruit—raisins. Mild, though.

T: Malts give way to sweet dark fruits, and the finish clings to my upper palate: hoppy, here. As the beer warms, the hops calm and I pick up a flavor of orange peel to accompany the color.

M: Refreshing amount of carbonation and not too heavy or thick; all pleasant surprises.

O: Really enjoyable after warming a bit; it'll be nice to work through the six-pack during these dark evenings.

Serving type: bottle

11-15-2011 05:18:44 | More by jpbebeau
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brewcrew76

Wisconsin

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to flexabull for this one.

A - Deep brown with ruby hues when held to the light. Not much of a head but a few wisps of lace remain.

S - Malty, toasted bread, nutty with some light chocolate and fruit.

T - Very malty and while the hops aren't noticeable they keep it from being too sweet. Rich caramel and toffee, almost a burnt toast flavor, nutty, chocolate with some light fruit.

M - All that malt flavor feels a little heavy at first but it drinks on the light side. Medium carbonation with a slightly chalky finish.

D - Nice alt for how big this beer is. I was afraid it might be a bit sweet but it is nicely balanced.

Serving type: bottle

12-17-2011 01:08:04 | More by brewcrew76
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ngeunit1

California

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a dark red-black with a finger of frothy slightly off-white head. The head fades down fairly quickly leaving behind some light lace.

S - Aroma is a mix of dark, lightly roasted malts, dark fruits, chocolate, with some spices and some lemon and noble hops.

T - Starts off with a mix of dark fruits, dark malts, some molasses, and a touch of spice. Through the middle, some roasted character and chocolate comes through with some noble hop flavor. The finish is a mix of roasted dark malts, dark fruit, chocolate, some spices, and some alt yeast esters.

M - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Feels smooth and a touch syrupy with a sweet and roasty finish.

D - Very drinkable. Nicely balanced Double Altbier. Nice malty backbone with some dark fruit, chocolate, and yeast character to balance.

Serving type: bottle

09-27-2012 04:32:04 | More by ngeunit1
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Hoptometrist

Oregon

4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served on tap into a shaker glass at Laughing Planet

A- Poured a dark mahogany color with a nice frothy off-white head that left glass coating lace

S- Big rich caramel and toffee notes, some cinnamon and vanilla, light cocoa notes

T- Rich caramel and toffee notes, some cherry flavors, breadiness, and light orange peel notes.

M- Smooth, medium body, low carbonation, finished semi-dry

O- Very malt forward and not really any hop presence, which is rare for a Ninkasi beer (even their oatmeal stout is pretty bitter hop bomb).

Serving type: on-tap

12-07-2012 04:37:08 | More by Hoptometrist
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SDtastentune

California

3.98/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Darker ruby amber, good clarity through a light. No head and small cling lace around rim.

S - Malty bread style with some slight spices of nutmeg or Cinnamon, with some sweet stuff back in there somewhere. Took some effort to smell though with a good swoosh of the glass.

T - More of a tasty malty beer, mixed with some raisin, brown sugar, a bit woodsiness from the hops... maybe Chinook? A little nutty, a lil spicy but not much at all. Pretty balanced flavor though, not overly anything but definitely rich. A little bit of smoked wood?

M - Medium to lower carb, not dry and not too resinous but has a big aftertaste of wood or earthy spice?

O - Overall this was an interesting beer, almost reminds me of some Chinook hopped beers, but I could be wrong. Good if you like malty beers and some aftertaste, not too hoppy. Not sure of this thing though, it kinda confuses me.... But good beer.

Serving type: bottle

11-24-2011 02:08:07 | More by SDtastentune
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elNopalero

Texas

3.98/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a ruddy amber, a little like a darker, cloudy apple cider.

The cinder comparison is apt, as hints of it come across the flavor profile. (I’m thinking of Michigan cider, warmed with cinnamon, not hard cider.) There’s hints of cinnamon and cloves, as well as a hop profile that reminds me of pine sap and squeezed grapefruit.

It’s a unique one, and it’s tasty—not your typical holiday ale!

Serving type: on-tap

12-18-2011 06:15:05 | More by elNopalero
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MaltsOfGlory

Oregon

3.98/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

As far as I can remember, this is one of my favorite Ninkasi beers, but I haven't had it in a while, and the brewery has expanded a lot over the last couple of years. A interesting (and aggressive) pour yields a one and a half finger head into my standard pint glass. The head is about half creamy and fluffy looking and half somewhat soapy and bubbly, but that is probably due to the aggressive pour. The head is an extremely light brown, maybe even more off-white than light brown, that's how light it is. The lacing looks like it will be great, but we will have to see for sure as I get down the glass. The head retention was pretty good, it hung around for quite some time. Now, after about 5 minutes, I still have some bubbles on top of the body. The body is very dark, but for sure not black. It has some black in it, but also brown and ruby. Visibility is zero. I can't really see the carbonation due to the color. Overall it's a nice body, slightly unique for a winter beer - having red in it and all, but then again I'm not familiar with the style. Either way it's still a good look. We will see how the lacing goes, but this is a good looking beer so far. On the nose I get just a wonderful malt smell. Very full, rich, deep malt aroma. Roasty and chocolatey too. Perhaps a touch of coffee on the nose as well. Not a whole lot in the way of hops, and frankly not a whole lot other than the great malt smell. It's a solid 4, but a few other aromas could go a long way. With that being said, it still smells great. Yeah, this is a nice beer, pretty close to what I remember too. You get that nice, chocolatey malt flavor up front. Frankly it's not as dominating as I was expecting, which is a little disappointing, but it's not the end of the world. It's also extremely sweet, malty sweet. I like the sweetness, but it may be a hair too much. Not much going on in the way of hops at all. A little bit of spices perhaps, there seems to be something other than delicious malts going on here. Kind of like a cinnamon vibe. I doubt it's cinnamon that's in here, but something in that realm. This beer is more than just your average winter beer, but just by a little bit. I don't think it has enough to be a 4.5. It's a solid 4, but let it be known that it's a little more than just a nice malty beer. The mouthfeel isn't bad. It's slightly thinnger than I would like, but it's not bad. It for sure has some thickness to it, just not quite as thick as I want in a hearty winter beer. The carbonation is for sure low, but that works in a winter beer. It may be a hair lower than it should be, but overall it's good for the style. It has a slightly creamy feel to the mouth as well. Even though I really like the mouthfeel, it does have some areas it needs to improve on. It's really right in between a 3.5 and a 4. The lack of carbonation and body makes me want to give this beer a 3.5 for feel. However, the carbonation and body are both very close to being spot on, and I really like the slight creaminess, and really the overall feel, enough to give it a 4. For being 7.2% ABV, this beer is DAMN drinkable! I would have never guessed this beer was 7.2% if the bottle didn't say it. It really drinks like a 5.5% or a 6% beer, great drinkability. Overall it's a solid beer. Not the most amazing beer ever, but for sure one I will have again. There really isn't anything wrong with the flavor at all, it just doesn't have enough pizzazz to be more than a good beer. So, overall, it's a good beer.

The flavor really started to get sweet. The malts still played a big role, but I would say that the sweetness may have become more dominant.

The appearance turned out to be...eh, not bad. The lacing was there, but it wasn't that pretty. It was somewhat patchy and EXTREMELY soapy and bubbly. It didn't look like your average lacing at all, rather - worse than average. I'm not quite sure how to grade this because the head was nice. The body wasn't really amazing, but better than average I supposed, for sure unique regardless. The lacing wasn't bad, just...not my cup of tea. I'm going to give it a 3.5 for appearance. I could give it a 4 but...I wouldn't say I've cut this beer any breaks, but there have been a few grades that I gave a 4 to instead of a 3.5 already.

Serving type: bottle

03-13-2012 09:32:55 | More by MaltsOfGlory
Sleigh'r Dark Doüble Alt Ale from Ninkasi Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 352 ratings.