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Stone Mill Organic Pale Ale - Green Valley Brewing Company (Crooked Creek)

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Stone Mill Organic Pale AleStone Mill Organic Pale Ale

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BA SCORE
72
okay

212 Ratings
THE BROS
81
good

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Ratings: 212
Reviews: 189
rAvg: 3.11
pDev: 18.01%
Wants: 2
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Green Valley Brewing Company (Crooked Creek) visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
English Pale Ale |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Todd on 09-04-2006)
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Photo of wahhmaster
2.42/5  rDev -22.2%

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a Guinness-branded tulip pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a translucent golden color with lots of carbonation bubbles. Has a thin, white head that dissipates quickly leaving an initial ring of lacing on the glass.

Smell: Wow, I wasn't expecting this aroma. It has a sweet grainy smell similar to most adjunct lagers. A slight touch of nutty and buttery smells but not much. Disappointing...

Taste: The taste isn't much better. It starts off slightly hoppy and finishes with a buttery, toasty taste. That said, the taste is very light and marred by a lot of adjunct-like flavors. I know this is an AB brewery but I wasn't expecting this level of suck.

Mouthfeel: Thin and watery with a touch too much carbonation.

Drinkability: A sub-par pale ale. It's pretty drinkable but the taste is pretty bad. You could do worse but this beer isn't really worth trying. Don't waste your time or your money...

wahhmaster, Dec 27, 2009
Photo of jnezda
2.23/5  rDev -28.3%

This Organic pale ale sort of pales for the style. Pours a light copper with little head and very light carbonation. The smells were non-existent on the beers I tried poured or from the bottle. The taste is slightly malty and has a finish with some hop characteristics but could use some more body and flavor. The carbonation is mild at best and lacking punch. Not a beer I will be sampling again.

jnezda, Nov 17, 2009
Photo of OtherShoe2
3.63/5  rDev +16.7%

Received a clear light copper pint with a bubbly off-white head. Some light lacing.

Some candied fruit aromas, sweet grain, light toasted malt.

Toasted malt and some fruit sweetness, with some light grainyness, like light whole-grain toast. Hops are there, somewhat. My issue is that this beer is a little on the muted side for flavor, and that which shines through is the sweetness.

Medium-light body and good carbonation.

Overall, it was ok. Had it on the bartenders recommendation (first pint was a bust -- sour, infected keg -- he came back with a taste and gave me a free pint). Overall, not bad, but not a real seeker either.

OtherShoe2, Nov 13, 2009
Photo of cokes
2.17/5  rDev -30.2%

It pours to a golden-tinted copper with a modest bleached khaki head that shows a bit of stickiness.
Toasted grain nose with a big bubblegum/fruit punch presence. I'm not sure where the hops are at, as it smell one-sidedly sweet.
Toasty, a little, at its onset into the mouth. Then the sweetness is ushered forth, more concord grapey here, but still with somewhat bizarre notions of Hawaiian Punch and Bubble Yum, and then caramel as it warms. It turns a bit astringency and metallic late, as the only notable hop contributions. They ain't tasty, but at least they sheer off some of the tacky sweetness.
Medium bodied, moderate carbonation. It's a bit sticky with the sugary qualities, but otherwise the build is about right.
The balance is way out of whack, English-styled or not. Bad is bad. And so is this.

cokes, Nov 11, 2009
Photo of ruckus232
3.23/5  rDev +3.9%

12 Ounce brown bottle poured into a pint glass

Appearance: Clear golden in color with not a lot of head and a little lacing on the glass

Smell: Fruity sweetness with a slight hoppy flavor in the background

Taste: A sweet maltiness followed by a slight bitterness. Nothing overpowering but nothing special either.

ruckus232, Oct 16, 2009
Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.03/5  rDev -2.6%

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a light golden brown color, with a short white head that fades slowly and leaves a spotty lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of caramelized malts, honey, some hops and some citrus.

T: The taste starts out with sweet with flavors of honey, citrus and caramel. Then there's a decent hops bitterness that comes in but there isn't much balance. The malt character is on the thin side for the style. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Crisp but not very smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: A little flavorful, goes down ok, not too filling, mild kick, decent representation of style, there are several other beers in the style that are better and several other organic beers that are better as well.

TheManiacalOne, Oct 01, 2009
Photo of donteatpoop
2.33/5  rDev -25.1%

Murky amber color with a decent white head that quickly fades to a film that clings to the edge and forms a small island in the center of the snifter glass.

Smells of molases, raisens and dates. All sweet and none of the hop-impact that I was anticipating.

Oddly bland taste, the dates and raisens alluded to by scent were present. The sweetness washed down with the brew and left an unpleasant chemical residue behind in the mouth. Much as the nose indicated, this is all sweetness with little to no hop presence.

Very watery going down, all chemicals and cotton in the after burn.

This is not something I'd recommend to anyone.

donteatpoop, Aug 03, 2009
Photo of aristeros
1.7/5  rDev -45.3%

Noticed the "michelob" after I bought it. Their Pale Ale from the "craft collection" was drinkable, though, so we'll see how it goes.

Poured into my Bodum pint glass. Pours a ginger-ale amber with a lot of visible carbonation. A finger of head, but it's gone in about ten seconds. Clarity is good.

Smells of mixed red and yellow fruit, strong sweet malt presence. No bittering hops detected. I expected different and stronger fruit aromas. Slight iron or copper smell that I hope is my imagination; let's find out.

Very light and malty up front, and the metal--copper?--is strong throughout. Some fruit. Watery mouthfeel. A bit of hops at the end, masked by metallic flavors.

I'd be better able to tell what was going on without the metal in there. I won't be finishing this one, although it's a shame, as I don't have anything else in the fridge.

aristeros, Aug 01, 2009
Photo of ralree
1.88/5  rDev -39.5%

A: Clear copper with a very short-lived large bubbled head. Not too impressed - it looks like soda.

S: Sweet malt with nice grain backing, some fruit. Hops present but light.

T: Metallic and awful. This is a pour-out. Tastes like blood. Ugh. Tastes gets better after swallowing. Extreme yeast. Fruit is the right level, but it's only detectable after swallowing. The metal flavor kills all fun.

M: Slimy on the tongue, slightly astringent. Carbonation OK.

D: Not drinkable. Had to pour out. If the taste wasn't so bad, it would be a refreshing beer.

ralree, Jun 17, 2009
Photo of jballeng
4.33/5  rDev +39.2%

Poured into a sexy weizen glass, a gorgeous copper with a two finger head. Lots of carbonation made the bubbles put on quite the song and dance - cascading majestically from the bottom of the glass for excellent head retention. Sadly the lacing was lacking.

Aroma of sweet tropical fruits, namely pineapple, and the usual malts & hops. A truly wonderful bouquet. Taste accents of hops and light fruits, again pineapple, with a delayed afterthought of hops bitterness at the back of the throat. A lot of carbonation in this one. The taste is not as sweet as the smell, which is a good thing for a pale ale. Another delayed aftertaste I got was ripe blood oranges.

A tasty and sexy organic brew.

jballeng, Jun 13, 2009
Photo of Spikester
3.1/5  rDev -0.3%

Organic pale ale pours full amber with an average white head and moderate lacings. Aroma is floral hops. Taste is mildly bitter pale ale very mild for the style. Good choice for a session PA. A bit slick and smooth with no bready yeast component. Says origin Merrimack, New Hampshire.

Spikester, May 14, 2009
Photo of Gyle41386
3.05/5  rDev -1.9%

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass.

Pours an orange-copper color. Maybe a finger of off-white foam dissipates quickly. There's some decent lacing.

Not much in the aroma. Certainly not much of a hop character. There is a decent toasted malt character, though. There's also a kind of buttery quality. Maybe a light hint of fruit?

The flavor really focuses on the toasted malts. There's a bit of sweetness...not sure if that's from the malts, or that fruity characteristic in the nose. Very light bitterness.

Fairly light body. Carbonation seems appropriate. Pretty dry finish. While bland, it's still an easy drinker. This isn't something I'll be going back for.

Gyle41386, May 07, 2009
Photo of LyonsHead
3.45/5  rDev +10.9%

A: great deep orange color but a lousy head that was gone by the end of the first sip

S: Just an average smell of flowery hops, and slight fruity notes

T: good flavor of caramel malty sweetness. subtle toast-like notes in the middle; finishes on the citrusy side.

M: just a light-bodied beer. Not overly smooth! Doesn't really do anything special for me.

D: this beer definitely grew on me as the session went on but it never really blew me away. As far as pale ale's are concerned its good but not great! Drinkability is alright though, you could definitely have a few! It wasn't like I wanted to put it down.

LyonsHead, Apr 14, 2009
Photo of Metrobus
2.25/5  rDev -27.7%

I saw this beer at Smith's and decided to give it a whirl after a good experience with an organic pale from Stone. The pour from a bottle was an average, creamy foam which dissipated quickly, and very carbonated like a soda. I looked at the bottle after the pour to see "made by michelob brewing" on the front, and understood the reasoning behind the stock presentation.

The texture of the beer is very simple and flat. If you ever drank Bud or a Michelob at a party, it's going to be the same experience on your taste scale. I imagine this is Anheuser-Busch's attempt at cornering a niche in the small brewery big character beers. The attempt is pathetic. If you put a label of michelob or budweiser on the front of this bottle you wont be able to tell the difference. I have more respect for brewing companies that go for a hit or miss flavor to a style of beer than this carbon copy with an organic sticker slapped on it.

This beer has no character, no hops, no complex flavors, and no business being bought by anyone other than people with an undying devotion to Anheuser. I could see this maybe as being bought for a party or get together as an alternative to the keg. Then again if you're drinking Bud, why would you pay more for the same thing?

Metrobus, Mar 15, 2009
Photo of mempath
2.73/5  rDev -12.2%

nice head, lacing, light amber color

smell is more malt and ... hops? smells like a 'limited' macro lager...a little too sweet smelling (of course, it's an engish PA-style)

wish the hops would do something, but the maltiness is actually not as sweet as the smell implicates. that's actually a plus. still, a bit too sweet in the first few moments. simply a turn off, but for the style, i can't over-judge it. thus, an 'average'...

mouthfeel is thin, carbonation is a bit high (nice) but crispness just doesn't deliver as i'd hope. i feel like i am rooting for something we all know is mediocre.

would be highly drinkable under specific circumstances: crawfish, crabs, spicey shrimp, tomato soup with half a bottle of tabasco in it...but on its own, not a quaffable, solo flying permit kind of brew.

disappointing and not really one to recommend. heck, i am Green and this is organic. i'd rather have an Old Milwaukee.

mempath, Mar 14, 2009
Photo of skeetermoses
3.8/5  rDev +22.2%

All in all this one impressed me, I did not know it was an Anhieser Busch product. Drank this one with a steak and a side of potatoes. Not too bad, I figure this one could go well with chicken or soup, I am going to try to find this one around town. Give it a second try overall, highly recomend this one. Very smooth.

skeetermoses, Mar 14, 2009
Photo of NonServiam
3.4/5  rDev +9.3%

12 oz bottle purchased in Chicago, poured into a large stemmed glass at a somewhat higher-than-cellar temperature (approx. 53 deg. F.). Batch number on label is 08341 MX55.

It's filtered, with no yeast in the bottle. Opens with a fairly anemic hiss. First sensation is a very strong aroma, floral and mostly estery, bringing melons and perhaps bananas to mind, with a backdrop of malt and alcohol. Upon being poured, this aroma mellows out a little, and resolves into something a bit drier, with a slight sour and metallic note, but still very estery. The head is small, about 1 finger, and short-lived, immediately dying down to a thin ring around the circumference of the glass and a fading island of foam in the center. While still extant, its color was a very light cream or near-white tan. The body of beer itself is a full copper red in color, clear, and bright. Jets of carbonation are quite visible and audible.

Flavor is dominated at the beginning by esters and hops -- fruity, but not citrusy or very floral; think melons or maybe even strawberries. A brief interlude of somewhat biscuity malt and sweetness follows, and then a dry, slightly metallic finish. An unobtrusive bitter warmth stays with you after swallowing. Mouthfeel is of a suitable medium-light thickness, with moderate carbonation.

I think this is a fine, though not extraordinary example of pale ale that focuses more on ester and malt than on hops. It could be more exciting if there were a greater hop presence to interact with the esters, in my opinion. Its rather subdued bitterness, and moderated mouthfeel and carbonation make for a very drinkable brew, though.

NonServiam, Mar 03, 2009
Photo of JamesS
2.75/5  rDev -11.6%

Pours a mid-level copper color, with a bit of initial head and a little lacing. Decent scent, a little bit of jerkyish Enlgish hops and maybe some more floral American, as well? Very malty taste for a pale ale, slight bitterness, but mostly sweet. Goes down very smooth; it's best attribute. I don't know if I've ever had a more malty and less hoppy pale ale, that wasn't horrible. Still, I'd rather have a decent bitter than this pale.

JamesS, Jan 31, 2009
Photo of wheatyweiss
2.9/5  rDev -6.8%

Poured into a tumbler.

Pours a crystal clear straw with a fizzy head that dissipates almost immediately.

Aroma is smallish malt and yeasty banana flavors.

Flavor is light husky grai n up front followed by weiss yeast, yeah, I said it weiss yeast. Banana and bubble gum. Phenols similar to band-aids aroma. Hop profile is not really present and what little there is tastes over steeped. Not overly impressed as a pale.

Mouthfeel is thin and watery with almost too much carbonation.

Overall I think the brewer may have been trying a little too hard to prove an "organic" can make a good ale. This one misses the mark.

(added after I read Bros reviews) I had no idea this was an AB beer.

wheatyweiss, Jan 24, 2009
Photo of superdedooperboy
2.98/5  rDev -4.2%

Served on-tap at The Pizza Joint in Evans, GA.

When I asked for this beer, I knew that there was some sort of A-B connection. Not that any A-B connection keeps me from trying a beer -- I'll try anything, and some A-B products are very decent -- and when the server said that this was a rather popular brew, I had a gut feeling this wasn't going to be the greatest thing in the world.

Served in a pint glass with a head that had collapsed to a thin film by the time it reached the table. Clear, orangish-amber in appearance with absolutely no stick left on the glass.

A rather dead aroma of subdued butterscotch and faint herbaceous hops is all that can be detected in the nose.

Rather thin-bodied, bringing a mild diacetyl character with some downplayed bittering hops filling in the middle, fading toward the back into a watery mess as if the other ingredients filtered out on the tongue and the water washes itself down. Not much of an aftertaste aside from some slight grassy bitterness.

I certainly hope that the brewers did not sacrifice flavor in the effort to remain organic, but flavor and mouthfeel are certainly lacking in this one. I can understand why it's a popular choice, what with all of the BudMillerCoors drinkers out there, as this ale is about as rich in character as any of those.

superdedooperboy, Jan 23, 2009
Photo of Nixon
2.45/5  rDev -21.2%

They got me too...I went all 'South Park' on 'em in my head and said "you bastard!" after I went to their website to see what I'd bought and saw the Michelob connection. Lately I've been trying beers I haven't tried before and that's why I bought this one. There is nothing on the label or cardboard 6-pack carrier that gives you any clue as to its A-B connection. The distributor's people managed to get this brand stocked in among the local micro brews, away from the Bud/Michelob section. If it had been next to the Michelob I might have tried it anyway...I have tried Bud American Ale and Michelob Pale Ale...but this time I feel cheated so I won't be buying this anymore.

That said...it is a much more malty than hoppy beer. The small hop presence is more bitter than flavorful. Good clarity, decent orangey-amber color, quickly disappearing head, absolutely no lacing, odd chemical-butterscotch malt flavor. I drank one of these then followed it with a Deschutes Mirror Pond and...well, there's no comparison...Mirror Pond kills it.

Dear A-B--you don't have to trick me. I respect you for longevity and hugeness. You must be doing something right and I want to like you. But pulling stunts like this knocks you backwards about 10 notches. Be honest. Hold your head up...I mean you are number one aren't you? You should know better...and I think you do. This is like something a General Motors executive would do.

Nixon, Dec 31, 2008
Photo of oriolesfan4
2.5/5  rDev -19.6%

Another sneaky little AB product.. I like how they try and hide the fact that it is part of their company. While some of these "hidden" AB products are decent (Shock Top and their amber one come to mind) this one is not one of those. It goes in the Winter Bourbon Cask Ale/Beach Bum Blonde Ale category.

Best thing about this beer is the appearance.. a nice copper color with was very appealing. The beer was way too watery and unflavorful. Not much going on for hops, no lacing or head at all, not much diff than a light beer except for the cool color. The whole organic thing doesn't mean anything to me either, so basically just a sub-standard beer.. move on.

oriolesfan4, Dec 30, 2008
Photo of Vendetta
1.98/5  rDev -36.3%

Original Rating Date:
October 10, 2008

Pours nicely, fluffy head and a lightly colored pale ale. Smell is alright, some maltiness, but a strange metallic note. Taste is much the same, no real hop presence and faint maltiness followed by a metallic aftertaste that the nose hinted at. Another average Anheuser-Busch effort, not sure I'll ever be impressed with one of their beers at this point.

Vendetta, Dec 14, 2008
Photo of stockingcpl
3.78/5  rDev +21.5%

Appearance: This selection poured rather well. Good head with of white foam. A little lacing highlighted with spiderwebbing on the surface. Color is a deep honey.

Smell: There is a rather light malty blend with aromatic hops. Interesting. There is a heartiness to this brew.

Taste: The flavor curve is excellent. Nice pop of hops with malt touches. There is a great bitterness that sustains well with out aftertaste. Good job here.

Mouthfeel: As mentioned earlier the taste curve is excellent. The palate is not crouded but the flavors. Also, sustain does linger. Quite well executed. I'm impressed.

Drinkability: This brew is well designed and executed. Excellent taste. Light enough for the ladies yet enough taste or the experienced drinkers. I'm very impressed.

Prosit!
Nikki

stockingcpl, Dec 12, 2008
Photo of argock
2.98/5  rDev -4.2%

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a clear glass tumbler. Bottled-on date on bottle.

A: Clear orange-amber with 1-finger fizzy off-white head with a few arcs of lace along the top of the glass.

S: Aroma is pretty mild with only some minor caramelly malt and Fuggles-type earthy hops.

T: Taste is not objectionable, but nothing remarkable. Clean malt sweetness with faint butter is met with too-soft earthy hops.

M: Way too thin and fizzy feeling for an APA. Aftertaste is short and faint.

D: The drinkability is fine but other options should be higher on your list due to the underhopping and poor feel.

argock, Nov 27, 2008
Stone Mill Organic Pale Ale from Green Valley Brewing Company (Crooked Creek)
72 out of 100 based on 212 ratings.