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Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier - Arbor Brewing Company

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Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt BierArbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier

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BA SCORE
80
good

83 Ratings
THE BROS
80
good

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Ratings: 83
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 16%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Arbor Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Altbier |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 07-26-2002)
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Reviews by beergeek279:
Photo of beergeek279
4.18/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served in a pint glass at Arbor Brewing. The color was dark brown/black, with a nice, thick white head. The smell was a good, dry roastiness. The taste was a fairly dry portery roasty malt character. Mouthfeel was very creamy. Drinkability-wise, this would be an excellent session beer.

Thank you to trbeer for splitting a pint of this one with us. A very good altbier with a very intersting porter characteristic to it, and absolutely something I'd hope to have when I make it up this way again!

beergeek279, Jul 25, 2004
More User Reviews:
Photo of tectactoe
3.44/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Arbor's brewery in Ann Arbor. Olde Number 22 pours a deep brown color, exalted by some ruby and deeper mahogany clarity towards the outer edges. A thin, light-tan head settles around 3 millimeters and lasts for a surprisingly long time before finally reducing to a simple ring outlining the glass.

The aroma's pretty light overall, though it does gain some steam once it finally has a chance to warm up a bit. Chocolate-esque malts, both sweet and roasty, both playing the field for dominance, and ending up with reasonable balance in the end. Some crisp yeast sits on the back end, along with a faint and musky, dry-hopped aroma. Nothing too notable here, but nothing offensive, either.

"Coffee beans" never really popped into my head as I was smelling this, but it's the first thing I can taste when I take a sip. Dry, roasted coffee beans, topped off with a dash of cocoa powder cutting through the timid oils. A hint of sweet malts helps balance the roast; not quite creamy, although there's an impending sweetness that I'm having a hard time placing a flavor to. And just for a second, there's even a very mild, raisin-y tartness that's gone almost as fast as it crept in.

The malty sweetness fades slowly into a bitter-roasted aftertaste that is again fitted with a great deal of dry coffee beans. Mild astringency in the finish, and light acrid; the yeast gives a nice, dry and clean feel on the palate once the flavors have finally cleared. A touch of nuttiness sneaks in there somewhere, too. Thin-medium bodied with a decent amount of carbonation.

Didn't have many expectations for this one, as I'm not the biggest Arbor fan out there, and I am also not very well versed in altbiers; needless to say, I ended up thinking this was pretty decent, and it's definitely something I would recommend trying at least once. Kind of like a dry stout, though maybe just a touch lighter in malty character (though still very roast-heavy). Nothing spectacular, but certainly not bad.

tectactoe, Jul 14, 2013
Photo of Beaver13
2.88/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle. Pours brown with a creamy off white head that retains and laces the glass.

The aroma is sweet sugary caramel and dark fruits

The flavor is is yeasty with some chocolate malt and some fruit. It has some acidic plastic and metallic bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied and slightly watery.

Overall, it kind of reminds me of Jolly Pumpkin's Bam Noire, but not as good.

Beaver13, May 01, 2008
Photo of Jason
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz brown bottle with no freshness date.

LOOK: Two shades away from black, light brown head

SMELL: Burnt raisins, toasted dark bread, yeast, dried grass, faint herbal hop

TASTE: Smooth, semi-creamy, medium body, mild charred note, grassy, burnt pizza crust, balancing hop bitterness, clean, faint caramel, nutty yeast, semi-sweet finish

Brewer aims for the Sticke Altbier and seems to hit that right with the more robust profile, expect a slightly higher abv but this works for me. It keeps on growing on me sip after sip.

Jason, Feb 24, 2012
Photo of pat61
4/5  rDev +14.3%

Nose: some fruit, a little dark sugary molasses, has a dopplebock aroma with more sugar and roast
Pours dark chestnut with a 1" finely bubbled foam collar, lacy.
Palate: A little sweet, some dark fruit but more dark malt and dark malt flavors, a little tanginess in the finish balances some of the sweetness, a little strong on the roast flavors suggesting a porter or an English mild ale, but drinkable.
Medium to medium low carbonation, medium full body, balance to the malt.

pat61, Sep 16, 2014
Photo of Zonian1
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

Zonian1, Nov 05, 2012
Photo of Brenden
3.76/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This ale is a very, very dark brown with just a hint of red sneaking in at the edges. It shows a surprising body, looking fairly thick. The medium brown head is about half a finger tall at its peak, though it displays some pretty strong retention and is able to throw down some firm splashy lace.
The aroma showcases light notes of dark fruits and thick dark breads that are heavy but on the toastier side along with a bit of caramel and treacle. It's fairly dry despite those sweeter elements, particularly as some powdered unsweetened cocoa notes come out.
The flavor brings out a porter or stout-like roast and even some charcoal. Malts are more along the lines of lightly burnt toast, though some caramel does make an appearance. A bit of balance adds dryness in a grassy sort of note from hops.
The body itself, almost full but sticking to a solid medium range, is pretty rich. It's dry all the way from middle to finish after starting off semi-dry, and all the more as a feel like burnt woods and an ashy feel mingle on the palate.

Brenden, Apr 09, 2014
Photo of DruC4
3.5/5  rDev 0%

DruC4, May 23, 2013
Photo of Sammy
3.03/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

No aroma, little dots in the head. Some bitterness and decent for the style, but not the best I have had. A tad of chocolate malt, smoke,saaz like carbonation. Bit lemon and acid in the finish and on aftertaste. Quaffable though didn't all work out on this batch.

Sammy, Jan 28, 2007
Photo of tempest
3.1/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Picked up a single at Bello Vino for $1.69

This is a dark brown alt, but I guess it doesn't always have to be amber-colored. The aroma and flavor were both a bit disappointing. I just pulled a deep caramel sweetness, without much other complexity. The body was balanced and drinkable, but the flavor wasn't compelling enough to try this again.

tempest, Aug 26, 2008
Photo of CharlesDarwin
3.65/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Originally reviewed on January 18, 2006. On tap at the brewpub. Dark clear brown burnt, with orange fringes and light rim of off-white. Light euro hop aroma. Effervescent, with toothy chewy grains, deliciopus horse blanket and some earth. Grains, oats and more pungent hops. Well balanced and lucious. Palate is smooth, airy and glowing. Finish is sweet. A light sour lemon at the end. Exemplary for the style.

CharlesDarwin, Dec 06, 2006
Photo of Acuity
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Acuity, Nov 10, 2012
Photo of Stu_Grimson
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Stu_Grimson, Dec 15, 2013
Photo of Rostie
4.25/5  rDev +21.4%

Rostie, Jan 22, 2013
Photo of redleg64
3.5/5  rDev 0%

redleg64, Nov 14, 2013
Photo of Bung
3.78/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle. Rather opaque black pour into the tulip. Huge off white head, had to pour and wait a couple times. Burnt malt and toast aromas, but rather light. Lively mouthfeel, light medium body. Burnt malt taste with hints of dark chocolate. Subdued hop presence. Very, very clean, but maybe just a bit overcarbonated. If not for the carbonation I would say this is extreamly drinkable, but as such is just good drinkability. A very interesting and unique alt.

Bung, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of emerge077
4.05/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark mahogany into black, a swirl of foam that caps it off, then it fades to a ring and a broken skim. Faint fried plantain fades into roasty malt and bitter dry bakers chocolate aroma. Ashy roast malt, thin and dry, with bold cacao, earthy tobacco, and bitter chocolate. A touch more body would make a huge improvement. As it stands, it's very drinkable and above all tasty.

Thanks to TheBlackMallard for the tip on this one!

emerge077, Jan 03, 2009
Photo of Another6Pack
4/5  rDev +14.3%

Another6Pack, Nov 22, 2011
Photo of sgoro
3.5/5  rDev 0%

sgoro, Dec 22, 2012
Photo of stortore
3.5/5  rDev 0%

stortore, Jan 30, 2014
Photo of StoutHunter
2.58/5  rDev -26.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

I picked up a bottle of Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier the other day for $1.69 at The Lager Mill. I didn't have the greatest first impression of Arbor Brewing, but after trying their version of Dark Corner I decided I should give them another chance and see what else they got. No visible bottle dating but the store just got them in and I know it's a 2011 vintage. Poured from a brown 12oz bottle into a pint glass.

A- The label looks pretty plain but I like the old school font the name is written in. It opened with a loud pssh sound and it poured a deep, dark, and hazy brown color that even with a very gentle pour it still yielded five fingers worth of tan mocha colored head that died down to a thick layer that stayed till the end and it left lots of nice looking lacing. This is a pretty nice looking beer.

S- I pick up a large amount of medium roasted malts that have a medium amount of sweetness to them. The malts impart some nice subtle coffee and chocolate aromas along with a slight grainy aroma.

T- The flavors starts of with the medium roasted malts that retain that medium amount of sweetness to them, it could be toned down a little. The flavors aren't as deep and roasty as the aroma led me to believe. It had a nutty flavor that I normally find in Brown Ales, to me it tastes like a mix between a Brown Ale and a lighter Porter, the flavors just don't go together that well. The finish was semi bitter, earthy, and dry, no real presence of hops.

M- It had a semi dry finish with a light body, I felt it should have been thicker, it has a watery feel to it that I don't like that much. This beer was also over carbonated, normally I don't mind a little extra head but this one took a while to pour even when I made sure to be gentle, but it was so carbonated that the mouthfeel suffered because of it, it was just to fizzy and I feel like that messed up some of the flavors.

Overall this was a pretty dull beer that I wasn't impressed with. I liked the look and aroma of this beer but after that everything pretty much went down hill. There wasn't much going on in the flavor darpartment and what was there was pretty subdued. What I liked the least about this beer was the mouthfeel, it was a mess, it was too watery and way over carbonated. I wasn't digging this brew and I don't think I would ever buy it again. I have very little experience with this style with this being first Altbier I have knowingly drank, but this beer just didn't do it for me. I can't say I would recommend this beer to people, its just too out of whack and needs lots of work. I am starting to think Arbor brewing's beers are hit or miss for me, with the misses being the majority, but I am not ready to write them off just yet.

StoutHunter, Jun 21, 2011
Photo of JimmyP
4/5  rDev +14.3%

JimmyP, Apr 06, 2012
Photo of rsitarski
4.5/5  rDev +28.6%

rsitarski, Dec 31, 2011
Photo of GbVDave
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a 20oz imperial pint. Thanks to HeatherAnn for the assist!

A: Pours a dark, cola-brown with redness at the edges. Capping this is a creamy, light-khaki head that quickly turns into a thick and bubbly ring and leaves some decent lace in the glass.

S: Aromas of chocolate, roasted malt, floral hops, tart berry, and a touch of smoke.

T: See above. Slightly soapy. Notes of caramel and toffee and a kiss of chocolate. Slightly tart at the finish.

M: Thin and tangy. Nice dry roastiness.

D: Interesting and pretty damn refreshing. Could use a little more chocolate malt to offset the tart tanginess.

GbVDave, May 30, 2008
Photo of soupyman10
3.4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown with an excellent light tan head that billows and floats for minutes. Nose is mild, some light spiciness and sweet malt. Flavor is interesting. Surprisingly sour; this is my first alt, but there wasn't anything in the description about sourness. In any case, there's a fair bit of roasted molasses, light astringency, some light fruit. Fairly well balanced in terms of malt and hops. Feel is alright, medium body, maybe a little light on the carbonation. This one isn't bad, although it's the first alt I've had, so I don't really have a lot to compare it to. The sourness was a bit of a surprise, but overall, it's drinkable.

soupyman10, Aug 23, 2007
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Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier from Arbor Brewing Company
80 out of 100 based on 83 ratings.