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Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier - Arbor Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
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84 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 84
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 16%
Wants: 2
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Arbor Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Altbier |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 07-26-2002)
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Photo of Sammy
3.03/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

No aroma, little dots in the head. Some bitterness and decent for the style, but not the best I have had. A tad of chocolate malt, smoke,saaz like carbonation. Bit lemon and acid in the finish and on aftertaste. Quaffable though didn't all work out on this batch.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.68/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

Pours a dark brown hat is nearly opaque win a nice off white head. Some lacing. Nose brings a bit of sweet malt that consists of darker chocolate, bringing some dryness as well. Taste and feel come together with a nice dry malt characteristic. The taste is a bit plain wihout much more than some grain and faint flavors behind it, but I like the feel. Drinks well and shows me yet again why I wish this were a more common style.

Photo of emerge077
4.05/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark mahogany into black, a swirl of foam that caps it off, then it fades to a ring and a broken skim. Faint fried plantain fades into roasty malt and bitter dry bakers chocolate aroma. Ashy roast malt, thin and dry, with bold cacao, earthy tobacco, and bitter chocolate. A touch more body would make a huge improvement. As it stands, it's very drinkable and above all tasty.

Thanks to TheBlackMallard for the tip on this one!

Photo of Jason
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz brown bottle with no freshness date.

LOOK: Two shades away from black, light brown head

SMELL: Burnt raisins, toasted dark bread, yeast, dried grass, faint herbal hop

TASTE: Smooth, semi-creamy, medium body, mild charred note, grassy, burnt pizza crust, balancing hop bitterness, clean, faint caramel, nutty yeast, semi-sweet finish

Brewer aims for the Sticke Altbier and seems to hit that right with the more robust profile, expect a slightly higher abv but this works for me. It keeps on growing on me sip after sip.

Photo of imperialking
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of tempest
3.1/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Picked up a single at Bello Vino for $1.69

This is a dark brown alt, but I guess it doesn't always have to be amber-colored. The aroma and flavor were both a bit disappointing. I just pulled a deep caramel sweetness, without much other complexity. The body was balanced and drinkable, but the flavor wasn't compelling enough to try this again.

Photo of ppoitras
3.6/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz bottle obtained via trade with CRJMellor. Thanks for the opportunity...

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed 5" of medium brown head over the 1/2" of very cloudy dark brown brew. There will have to be some patience involved with drinking this brew. Huge frothy head fades WAY slowly, I went away and came back later, left monumental amounts of lacing. Aroma is nutty medium to dark malts. Taste is also medium malts upfront, with an increasing amount of hops as time passes. Mouthfeel is still a bit gassy, but overall not bad, and drinkability is pretty good, once you can finally drink it. This one was satisfying is some areas, kind of lacking in others, but has some nice potential.

Photo of Viggo
3.55/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Lexx picked this one up in Michigan.

Pours a cloudy copper brown, quite opaque, loose tan head forms, big bubbles, settles to a thin ring and layer, few lace spots. Smell is neat, iron, caramel, roast, chocolate, bit of coffee, very clean aroma, maybe too clean, some bread, dark fruits, interesting. Taste is kind of bland and watery, some caramel and chocolate, bread, roast coffee, not much else, but a bit buttery. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low carbonation, pretty smooth. Easy to drink but the flavour dies. Thanks Lexx!

Photo of DrJay
2.85/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown, nearly opaque beer topped by a thin ring of tan coloured head. Flavour and aroma were intensely malty, some toffee, with very little hop presence. Mild bitterness and a relatively clean yeast character with a bit of dark fruitiness. Some residual sweetness with a short, malty finish. Medium bodied with low carbonation and a slightly sweet, sticky texture.

Photo of Derek
3.68/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this on tap at the brewpub.

I haven't had many Alts.

A: Dark brown chestnut, hardly any off-white head, some lace.

S: Bread, caramel & a little roasted malt.

T: Bittersweet, only a little roasty (black patent malt for colour?).

M: Light to moderate body and carbonation.

D: Quite good.

Photo of TurdFurgison
2.8/5  rDev -20%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I picked this up in Detroit a couple weeks ago, and it's been chilling on deck for about a week. I poured it into a Sam Adams glass, and it filled to the top with poofy tan foam. The liquid itself was very dark, mush darker than other alts I've tried. The aroma was off in my opinion, a little fruity and a little acidy-sour. Same with the taste, it had some off-flavors I didn't think matched the beer style. I won't try it again.

Photo of tectactoe
3.44/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Arbor's brewery in Ann Arbor. Olde Number 22 pours a deep brown color, exalted by some ruby and deeper mahogany clarity towards the outer edges. A thin, light-tan head settles around 3 millimeters and lasts for a surprisingly long time before finally reducing to a simple ring outlining the glass.

The aroma's pretty light overall, though it does gain some steam once it finally has a chance to warm up a bit. Chocolate-esque malts, both sweet and roasty, both playing the field for dominance, and ending up with reasonable balance in the end. Some crisp yeast sits on the back end, along with a faint and musky, dry-hopped aroma. Nothing too notable here, but nothing offensive, either.

"Coffee beans" never really popped into my head as I was smelling this, but it's the first thing I can taste when I take a sip. Dry, roasted coffee beans, topped off with a dash of cocoa powder cutting through the timid oils. A hint of sweet malts helps balance the roast; not quite creamy, although there's an impending sweetness that I'm having a hard time placing a flavor to. And just for a second, there's even a very mild, raisin-y tartness that's gone almost as fast as it crept in.

The malty sweetness fades slowly into a bitter-roasted aftertaste that is again fitted with a great deal of dry coffee beans. Mild astringency in the finish, and light acrid; the yeast gives a nice, dry and clean feel on the palate once the flavors have finally cleared. A touch of nuttiness sneaks in there somewhere, too. Thin-medium bodied with a decent amount of carbonation.

Didn't have many expectations for this one, as I'm not the biggest Arbor fan out there, and I am also not very well versed in altbiers; needless to say, I ended up thinking this was pretty decent, and it's definitely something I would recommend trying at least once. Kind of like a dry stout, though maybe just a touch lighter in malty character (though still very roast-heavy). Nothing spectacular, but certainly not bad.

Photo of Brenden
3.76/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This ale is a very, very dark brown with just a hint of red sneaking in at the edges. It shows a surprising body, looking fairly thick. The medium brown head is about half a finger tall at its peak, though it displays some pretty strong retention and is able to throw down some firm splashy lace.
The aroma showcases light notes of dark fruits and thick dark breads that are heavy but on the toastier side along with a bit of caramel and treacle. It's fairly dry despite those sweeter elements, particularly as some powdered unsweetened cocoa notes come out.
The flavor brings out a porter or stout-like roast and even some charcoal. Malts are more along the lines of lightly burnt toast, though some caramel does make an appearance. A bit of balance adds dryness in a grassy sort of note from hops.
The body itself, almost full but sticking to a solid medium range, is pretty rich. It's dry all the way from middle to finish after starting off semi-dry, and all the more as a feel like burnt woods and an ashy feel mingle on the palate.

Photo of hopdog
3.45/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I had this one n tap at the Arbor Brew Pub.

Poured a dark brown color with a small sized off white head. Aromas of nuts, light smoke, roast and some dark fruits. Tastes of nuts, roast, and some caramel. On the malty sweet side.

Notes from 05/06/06.

Photo of Bung
3.78/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle. Rather opaque black pour into the tulip. Huge off white head, had to pour and wait a couple times. Burnt malt and toast aromas, but rather light. Lively mouthfeel, light medium body. Burnt malt taste with hints of dark chocolate. Subdued hop presence. Very, very clean, but maybe just a bit overcarbonated. If not for the carbonation I would say this is extreamly drinkable, but as such is just good drinkability. A very interesting and unique alt.

Photo of jbaker67
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of GbVDave
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a 20oz imperial pint. Thanks to HeatherAnn for the assist!

A: Pours a dark, cola-brown with redness at the edges. Capping this is a creamy, light-khaki head that quickly turns into a thick and bubbly ring and leaves some decent lace in the glass.

S: Aromas of chocolate, roasted malt, floral hops, tart berry, and a touch of smoke.

T: See above. Slightly soapy. Notes of caramel and toffee and a kiss of chocolate. Slightly tart at the finish.

M: Thin and tangy. Nice dry roastiness.

D: Interesting and pretty damn refreshing. Could use a little more chocolate malt to offset the tart tanginess.

Photo of Mitchster
1.3/5  rDev -62.9%
look: 5 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

12 oz bottle. Brewed and bottled by the Corner Brewer LLC. Not brewed on premises? Opens with a vigorous whoosh and despite a gentle decant, foams up quickly, forming a meringue-like light tan head which peaks out of the glass about 2 inches, and leaving sticky gobs of foam on the glass as it recedes. Cloudy mahogany, near black. Aroma of burnt grain, kiwi fruit, an awful amount of metals and acid. Mouthfeel is biting with a medium body. Taste begins with left over coffee grounds, followed by a strong green kiwi fruit presence with associated acidity, dirty pennies in vinegar, an acrid bitterness and a sharp biting sourness. This brew is obviously infected.

What is it with breweries in Ann Arbor? Frog Island, Leopold Brothers, and this brewery all have nasty infected products. Don't the brewers drink what they sell? How could they let this go out on the shelves? This is the furthest thing from an Alt I've ever had. A disaster. Down the drain it goes.

Photo of StoutHunter
2.58/5  rDev -26.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

I picked up a bottle of Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier the other day for $1.69 at The Lager Mill. I didn't have the greatest first impression of Arbor Brewing, but after trying their version of Dark Corner I decided I should give them another chance and see what else they got. No visible bottle dating but the store just got them in and I know it's a 2011 vintage. Poured from a brown 12oz bottle into a pint glass.

A- The label looks pretty plain but I like the old school font the name is written in. It opened with a loud pssh sound and it poured a deep, dark, and hazy brown color that even with a very gentle pour it still yielded five fingers worth of tan mocha colored head that died down to a thick layer that stayed till the end and it left lots of nice looking lacing. This is a pretty nice looking beer.

S- I pick up a large amount of medium roasted malts that have a medium amount of sweetness to them. The malts impart some nice subtle coffee and chocolate aromas along with a slight grainy aroma.

T- The flavors starts of with the medium roasted malts that retain that medium amount of sweetness to them, it could be toned down a little. The flavors aren't as deep and roasty as the aroma led me to believe. It had a nutty flavor that I normally find in Brown Ales, to me it tastes like a mix between a Brown Ale and a lighter Porter, the flavors just don't go together that well. The finish was semi bitter, earthy, and dry, no real presence of hops.

M- It had a semi dry finish with a light body, I felt it should have been thicker, it has a watery feel to it that I don't like that much. This beer was also over carbonated, normally I don't mind a little extra head but this one took a while to pour even when I made sure to be gentle, but it was so carbonated that the mouthfeel suffered because of it, it was just to fizzy and I feel like that messed up some of the flavors.

Overall this was a pretty dull beer that I wasn't impressed with. I liked the look and aroma of this beer but after that everything pretty much went down hill. There wasn't much going on in the flavor darpartment and what was there was pretty subdued. What I liked the least about this beer was the mouthfeel, it was a mess, it was too watery and way over carbonated. I wasn't digging this brew and I don't think I would ever buy it again. I have very little experience with this style with this being first Altbier I have knowingly drank, but this beer just didn't do it for me. I can't say I would recommend this beer to people, its just too out of whack and needs lots of work. I am starting to think Arbor brewing's beers are hit or miss for me, with the misses being the majority, but I am not ready to write them off just yet.

Photo of Beaver13
2.88/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle. Pours brown with a creamy off white head that retains and laces the glass.

The aroma is sweet sugary caramel and dark fruits

The flavor is is yeasty with some chocolate malt and some fruit. It has some acidic plastic and metallic bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied and slightly watery.

Overall, it kind of reminds me of Jolly Pumpkin's Bam Noire, but not as good.

Photo of david131
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Very dark leathery brown. A little murky. The head is small and has very little retention.

S- Lots of raisins and some vinnegar. Some caramel and earthiness. A little smoky.

T- Sweet and sour with some raisin and smoke. Interesting, but I'm not crazy about it.

M- Very dry on the end. The sourness is fine, but this seems almost too clean and buttery.

D- Overall, this was a very interesting beer, but I do not see this being a session beer or me indulging in this again...

Photo of Monkeyknife
3.05/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a bottle a deep, dark black with a meringue-like tan head and beautiful lacing.

The aromas of sweet roasted malts and raisins is present but very subtle.

The taste is a cherry sourness up front while finishing with roasted malts and coffee. The malts seems almost watered-down compared to the sourness.

Medium mouthfeel and mildly carbonated.

The balance seems off on this one. The sour cherriness upfront is just too much.

Photo of Kerrie
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of brewcrew76
3.95/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to emerge077 for sharing this one.

A - Dark brown with ruby highlights when held to the light and a thin tan head. Much darker than any altbier I have seen.

S - Light aroma of chocolate, caramel and roasted malt. Maybe some dark fruits mixed in.

T - Bakers chocolate and roasted malts upfront followed by bready, bicuity caramel malts.

M - Thin and watery with a lingering dryness.

D - A little more chocolate and roast than other alts I have had but I like it.

Photo of TasteTester
2/5  rDev -42.9%

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Arbor Brewing Olde Number 22 Alt Bier from Arbor Brewing Company
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