Stochasticity Project - Quadrotriticale - Stone Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
85
very good

819 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 819
Reviews: 143
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 12.73%
Wants: 23
Gots: 182 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  9.30% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: dwagner003 on 06-03-2014

Belgian-style quadrupel brewed with a special grain called triticale.
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Ratings: 819 | Reviews: 143
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Photo of Moose90
3.64/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Tasted on tap

A – Big dark rye colored brew here, lacing is somewhat minimal but nice enough.

S – Triticale overload here, this is okay if you are a fan of triticale, it is unique I'll grant them that, but this is really lacking balance and comes across quite sweet.

T – Triticale again, but it is more thoroughly balanced with rye spice and is much less sweet than the nose would lead you to expect. Some light dried fruit notes on the finish.

M – Nicely done here, not sticky sweet nor astringent and dry. Great balance.

O – Very dominant with the triticale. It is a good beer if you like triticale, I think they could have done much better, and this would be absolutely ridiculous if it were barrel aged.

Photo of Ego
3.96/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4

eyes...
audible head sizzles and calms down in a few seconds, the head settles in to more of a coating and hangs out at that level, the lacing is really nice and clingy, medium brown color with a good amount of very tiny bubbles, decent looking glass o' brew

nose...
grainy sugar (brown sugar?), faint molasses, fresh bread yeast, chlorine dough (in a good way), pretty unique nose... not sure what to make of it

taste etc...
the first thing I noticed was the smoothness of the carbonation (even before any flavor - the feel is near silky), light molasses with an almost booze kick (it holds back just enough), dark fruit notes emerge later on in the glass balancing out the brown sugar
notes, some quads have an almost wine like quality, the grain balances that out here

verdict?
tasty. not too sweet for this non sweet tooth. A caged beast, this has a lot going on but seems in control. Delivers a nice punch and hits a lot of good notes.

not a Belgian beer
wears a cloak so familiar
cozy winter treat

Photo of lordofthewiens
3.85/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

In a goblet this beer was a pretty cherry amber color, with a minimal tan head.

Sweet caramel aroma. Fruit. Dough. The aroma was on the subtle side.

Taste less subtle. Caramel/molasses. Dark fruit, figs and dates. Wheat. The rye showed up late, and gave a bit of a peppery taste.

Overall, a pretty nice beer. I thought it was a little too sweet for me.

Photo of Motleydrunk56
3.87/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

22 oz Bomber.Very sweet with a taste of pairs maybe apples.Not really for me.Good ABV at 9.3.

Photo of MattyG85
4.24/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into a St. Bernardus goblet glass. Bottled on 06/02/14.

Appearance: Pours a deep brownish amber with a moderate amount of bubbles. About one finger of light tan head that quickly fades into a thin patchy layer. Leaves a decent amount of lacing.

Smell: A yeasty, fruity, and sweet Belgian Quad style aroma with big hints of dark fruit and sugar. Upfront Belgian yeast with hints of clove, peppers, and funk. Big hints of Belgian candied sugar and brown sugar. Toasted malts with hints of grains, straw, biscuit, caramel, and toffee. Big fruit esters with hints of bananas, apple, and pear along with dark fruit hints of cherry, grape, raisin, prune, fig, and dates. A very solid aroma.

Taste: Like the aroma, a fruity, yeasty, and fairly sweet Belgian Quad style taste with big notes of dark fruit and dark sugar. Belgian yeast with some notes of funk, clove, and pepper spicing. Sweet notes of Belgian candied sugar and burnt brown sugar. Bready toasted malts with notes of grains, biscuit, straw, caramel, toffee, and cracker. Big taste of dried fruit esters with notes of bananas, pear, and apple. Dark fruit notes of grape, cherry, prune, raisin, dates, and fig. A very solid taste.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied with a medium to high level of carbonation. Creamy and fairly chewy and slick. Sweet but far from cloying. A little alcohol heat is noticeable but its not harsh.

Overall: A pretty good spin on a Belgian Quad. Good fruit esters with an interesting twist from the tritcale grain.

Photo of Mantooth
2.83/5  rDev -24.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Poured at the wonderful Park Road Duckworth's, Charlotte, NC...

We all agree, Stone does a damn good job of it... most of the time...

Pours a dark copper color with a thick fringe of mocha trimmings. Not much of a nose on this cloyingly sweet 9.3% bubble-gum beast. Beneath all the sugar hides a bit of caramel... but it's hiding far too well. All in all - sacharine sweet and then some - I'm one and done with this brew... sadly, couldn't even finish it.

Photo of WVbeergeek
4.5/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep mahogany ruby hue with a big head fine bubbles looks to be a khaki tan head at that. Fine speckled lacing left behind as it dwindles, smoking a big cigar from Nicaragua towards the end of this beer that I will give pairing notes to as the beer review goes. Aroma deep vine ripened dark colored grapes, raisin sweetness, very much the type of beer I like with my cigars...sweet complex and earthy. With a dark wheat base it looks like from the triticale nomenclature. The flavor is perfect vine ripened fruit, dark plums, raisins, exponential malt on the spectrum of fruit profiles, limited acidity enough to balance it out big Belgian yeast notes bready slightly spiced a perfect combination this is really good and will only get better with age. Mouthfeel is full bodied even full fermented carbonation levels, with full on fruit notes bringing out each burst of flavor with alcoholic presence available with each sip. Overall, I'm in love with the whole bottle this beer is going to age explicitly right now it's drinking just fine can't wait to try more of this one!!!

Photo of chinchill
3.97/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

On tap (2X).
Looks great, with a deep chestnut brown color and a good head.
Smells interstng, but not really like a quad.
The flavor is better and more like a quad. Has a distinctive but very well balanced and interesting mix of flavors.

Photo of timontheroad
3.67/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Dark Amber color, with a quarter inch head that dissipated within a minute to a very light film. Aroma was very faint with just some light caramel notes and just a hint of dark fruit. Taste was lots of dark fruit, molasses, and some spicy flavors. Mouthfeel was pretty thin for a quad. Overall, this one was a bit disappointing - usually Stone's offerings are a little better.

Photo of Auraan
3.87/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a semi-clear reddish brown with abundant ruby red highlights when held to light. No head to speak of and no lacing. An interesting look for a Belgian Strong Dark, not the best through. Scents of syrupy dark fruit, including prune, raisin and dried cherries, cherry and apricot juice notes are also present alongside smokey malt, rich, dark bread, a bit of an earthy rye spice, and a noticeable alcohol presence in the background. A very rich, boozy and malty aroma with a high amount of dark fruit. Spiciness and smokiness are the elements that arw not true to style, though the intensity of the aromas, particularly those reminiscent of cherries are greater than in the Trappists Rochefort 10 and Chimay Blue and in the abbey-style St. Bernardus Abt. 12. This creates a bigger, bolder aroma than is typical for the style, befitting Stone. Flavor begins semi-sweet with flavors of liquor-soaked dark fruit, including prune, raisin and fig alongside rich, burnt caramel-like malt, a bit of a smokiness, slight hints of burnt toast and boozy undertones. This moves into a semi-sweet flavor reminiscent of dried apricots and cherries with ample alcohol flavors and some sweet, dark bread, smoky and caramel malt flavors. Finish is semi-dry with notes of spicy rye, burnt toast, alcohol, smoked malt and dark fruit. Aftertaste is semi-dry with notes of burnt toast, alcohol, toasted malt and spicy rye. A very rich, complex flavor profile. In many respects it is rather true to style, though the burnt toast and rye spice are both unique twists. It is also rather boozy, even for a Belgian Strong Dark. Still quite good and very unique. Mouthfeel is medium-full bodied and sticky with moderate-high carbonation that is present, but not prickly and a present, though not overwhelming alcohol warmth. A very good sipping beer mouthfeel that is quite easy to drink. Overall this is a good attempt at doing something different with a quadrupel style Belgian Strong Dark Ale. The aroma and flavor are fairly true to tradition in many respects, but they add small things that change the overall character and make the beer quite unique without ruining the overall balance. The mouthfeel supports this and lends the beer quite nicely to sipping. A good twist on a classic style, well worth trying.

Photo of JMS1512
3.98/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A reddish-orange hue when held up to the light, brown undertones. Reminds me a little of a sunburst/two-tone finish on an electric guitar. Pours a beige 1/2 inch head that quickly recedes. Leaves sporadic lace in blotches. Smells very bready with a little bit of booze. Taste is a marriage of spices, raisiny sweetness, good malt, and a bit of bread. Mouthfeel is medium -thick, ably coating in addition to a bit of bubble. Finishes with a bit of ryeness and sweet booze. Raisin more apparent when the beer heats up.

Overall, a nice deviation from the traditional quad. It's all over the place... and I like that. Three Philosophers this is not... and I like that one, too.

Photo of Brenden
3.79/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Quadrotriticale is a red-hued dark brown, translucent but leaning opaque in its darkness. It forms a 3/4 finger tall tan head, bubbly but tight once it's completely settled, leaving behind strong spotting with some patching to go along.
The nose is pretty sweet, a whole lot of dark fruits overtop some earth and toast. Molasses notes take on a heavier sort of sweetness beneath. It's obviously malt-heavy, and the Belgian yeast makes a show of balance and support without taking over. It offers light, musty earth, sweetness of a lighter variety, and very gentle spiciness. The unusual grain used seems complementary to all of the above in this beer's case.
The triticale tastes to me like a cross between rye and sorghum. It gives some rawness, pepper and earth, along with that not-quite-cardboard, not-quite-spent grains taste. After it's been sitting awhile, it actually gets sweet and very mildly tangy with a little toast/smoke, so it tastes a bit like grilled pineapple.
It's a little bubbly and spritzy, not light-bodied but a little shallow for a Quad. Crispness needs time to calm down a bit, which it eventually does, and the feel is moderately, but not completely, clean.

Photo of biboergosum
3.78/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle. Leave it to Stone to find it perfectly ok to mess with the high-end recipes of the venerable Belgian brewers - oh, right, 'tis the American way, and I suppose we love it all the more so. The name of this particular pet project reminds me of 'gravimetric stoichiometry', something from long-ago chemistry classes, or some sort of creepy disease. Anyways.

This beer pours a clear, dark bronzed amber colour, with one measly finger of puffy, filmy, and bubbly beige head, which leaves some random arched promontory lace around the glass as things gently subside.

It smells of bready, mildly spicy caramel and toasted wheat malts, a touch of rye adjacency, pleasantly muddled dried dark fruit - bruised banana, plum, and a fig/date amalgam - edgy earthy yeast, a touch of tanned leather, weedy, indistinct drying hops, and a softly bristling alcohol, um, 'awareness'. The taste is big and fruity, the standard black (and ones who want to be) representing with the same actors from the nose, more gritty, grainy rye, wheat and caramel malt smiling and waving like they actually get along, a now laid-back yeastiness, a somewhat odd herbal bitterness, some middling mixed table shaker pepper notes, and still understated boozy emanations.

The bubbles are supportive, but nothing more pervasive than that, the body a sturdy as sin medium-heavy weight for the style, and generally quite smooth, with a mildly besotted creaminess arising as it warms. It finishes off-dry, and not nearly as sweet as I might have expected, had I not read (ok, parsed) the label.

An interesting breakdown of what a Quadruple-style ale can and could be, beyond the more delineated BSDA guidelines - pick yer grains, and go to town, son! Way more drinkable than I sadly prepared myself for (sorry, Stone), but still all new-world in its complexity, which is a miser's trade-off, to be sure. Whatever, I'm enjoying making my way through this, and for that, I am one content lab rat.

Photo of hreb
3.86/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Botlted on 04/17/14. 22oz bottle served in pint glass. Beer pours a wonderful garnet, very syrupy in viscosity, and forming nearly no head. Aroma is rather rich, suggesting plums and currants. The unique grain used here is immediately recognizable as contributing an unfamiliar flavor to this beer. There's not a lot of hops masking the peculiar grain bill in this Quad. There's not a lot of the yeasty flavor distinctive in Belgian 3s and 4s. What there is is the distinctive sweet note of Belgian Candi sugar. But I'm actually finding the flavor a little bit thin, considering there's clearly so much going on here, gravity wise, it leaves me wanting more in the middle of the palate. More that specialty barley malts, or conventional rye malts, would have provided. But this beer is actually intensely drinkable, and smooth despite it's 9.3 per cent ABVs. The carbonation is also thankfully low, which helps.

Photo of Roguer
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

As others have observed, it's a relatively light color for a quad: dark reddish brown, not unlike a barleywine or Flemish sour. Pours a thin beige head which fairly quickly fades to an oily sheen.

Aroma is fairly weak, but I get notes of caramel, toffee, dark fruit, sugar, and banana.

Flavor is firmly in the sweet quad territory, with waves of smooth, sweet malt, and a mix of dark, almost overripe fruit. Caramel and toffee; a tiny hint of chocolate; prunes and banana. There's quite a lot of thick, sweet malts swirling around, and it isn't always easy to pick them out.

Remarkably smooth mouthfeel, with some warming alcohol on the very back-end giving you a tiny hint of its potency. Very lively, but pretty easy on the mouth. Medium feel, with a long, sticky, syrupy finish.

This is a pretty tasty and well-made American quad, surpassing my expectations. It's not far off from traditional, although I don't have enough experience with the triticale malt they used to be able to pick it out of the deep selection of flavors.

Like every Stone special release so far, I like this enough to recommend giving it a try.

Photo of RickS95
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%

The appearance is similar to a Belgian quad, only this is a bit thinner in color. Still a dark ruby brown, but slightly thinner than the murkier beers from across the pond. The head never really forms and when it sort of does, it lacks retention. Same for the lacing.

It does have the classic quad scents in check. The Belgian yeast strain and candied sugar are spot on. Only deep in the background do you pick up any notes of rye.

It tastes much better than I expected from what was written on the bottle. Dark fruits from the yeast strain are ever present. Like in the nose, rye is just there. A splash of alcohol finally shows as well. And of course, the candied sugar. Good stuff.

Complexity on the palate as the sweetness and hop presence, mixed with some spice and heat from the alcohol provide layers. Instead of stages, you get layers...well done. Medium bodied. Lingering heat.

A really good beer, overall. Seems like a fancy list of ingredients to go along with the crazy name, but the result is awfully good.

Photo of Fatehunter
3.3/5  rDev -12.5%

Pours a thin head on a hazy dark straw colored body.
The aroma is sugar candy, plum and grains. Refreshing.
The taste is sweet that goes sweeter. There's a little break in the middle of some bitter fruit.
The texture is sticky.
Quite interesting.

Photo of weirdohappy
4.5/5  rDev +19.4%

I have tried and enjoy many of Stone's beers, perhaps it's the labels, pictures of evil beasts and dark ritual symbols. Who knows? I was looking around the beer store to see if the new Game of Thrones had arrived, since it had not I went looking for something g different. This caught my eye as I had trouble with the name, it was in the cold case so I could drink it right away and it was made by stone. Beautiful amber pour, very light head that dissappered immediately. Not a heavy beer by any means. Went well with the sushi I ate for dinner. Would definitely drink again.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.57/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the House of Brews. Served in a snifter.

Appearance - Deep amber. Big off white head. Rings of lacing inside the glass. Thick collar.

Smell - Very fruity. Lots of phenolic yeasty notes. Sweet caramel. Boozy with some odd tropical fruits.

Taste - Sweet caramel malts. Belgiany sweetness. A bit of a burnt toast characteristic. A little grainy. Phenolic. A little bitter.

Mouthfeel - Gets a bit sluggish. As bitter as it is sweet. Well carbonated.

Overall - Not idea if the triticale is adding anything, since I have no idea what it tastes like. This isn't a traditional quad, but it's pretty good.

Photo of russpowell
3.78/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a copper tinged orange & effervescent with a pinky of cream colored head. Great lacing & average head retetion

S: Plums, pears, booze

T: Follows the nose, much dryness, some cherry notes up front, slight leafy hop presence also. Plums, hints of port, dryness & a little orange peel & faint hints of oakyness as this warms. Finishes dry, plummy, boozey, with some raisin as well

MF: Medium bodied, faint carbonation, a little sticky & dry. Warming

Pretty nice take on the style, would probably age great

Photo of glass_house
3.39/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle poured into a snifter

Pours a clear, deep amber-brown with a burgundy glow when held to the light. One finger of khaki head quickly recedes to a thin cap with minimal lacing. Underwhelming aroma. Mostly faint dark and sour fruits, with a little dry grain, spice, and molasses.

The mouthfeel makes a decent first impression, and is clearly the redeeming quality in my opinion. Rich and full, with active, yet tame carbonation. Taste is some dark bread, brown sugar, molasses, rye-like grain, Belgian yeast spice, and an interesting medley of fruits. Grapeskin, banana, pear, sour apple, dark cherry, and plum. Nothing here is particulary offensive to my palate, but it just doesn't move me. The sweetness is obvious, but never seems to approach the yuck threshold. The finish is slightly dry. Doesn't leave any of the residual sticky syrupy sweetness I've noticed in some quads. Virtually no trace of the alcohol--one of the smoother 9%+ beers I've had.

Overall, it falls into the "wouldn't turn it down" category. Nice to try it, but don't think I'll be buying another.

Photo of HalfFull
3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Ah yes the elusie American Quad to substitute for a TransAtlantic journey I seek, generally in vain. This Stonish product pours from an emblazened 22 oz. bottle into a large wine glass. The pour is quite light for the style though rather clear. Deep copper amber in color with a light tan cap which offers decent retention and lace.

Aroma is fruity though surely not 'malty' by any means. Offers a good yeast presence along with some pear and grape, which belies the color. A dark tripel of sorts yet with a finish that offers more sweetness than yeast character. Not that one is too much or too little either with regards to sweetness or yeast presence.

Taste is what it is and fits the beer in a sense. A Belgian 'Amber' with a touch of extra texture in the grain department. The ABV is above and beyond what I would have guessed if poured blindly while keeping the apparent sweetness at bay. Finish is smooth and delicate and with a nice carbonation level.

Overall I have no idea what effect triticale had on the end product but I would assume it was minor vs. rye/wheat etc. That said, I can't really complain. Sure, it's not a classic Quad, but it's good. That said, I'm booking a flight to Brussels as we speak....

Photo of larryarms847
3.69/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep and rich mahogany/brown with a pin size head.

Smells of sweet caramel, sugar, and grain.

Taste is a perfect blend of sweet and bitter, not overly sweet.

Mouthfeel is thick and sticky.

Overall a nice brew, but not something to write home about.

Photo of RandyFlameThrower
3.83/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Enjoyed the taste better than the look of it in the glass or the smell, right out of the fridge the mouthfeel was awful. Gets better as it warms. Excellent beer. My average gave it lower, but I'd say it's a 4/5.

Photo of richj1970
3.73/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from 22 oz. bomber into tulip glass.

A: Pours a crystal clear copper red with smallish one finger white head that settles almost immediately. I was expecting a much darker color, and much murkier, so I'm intrigued.

S: Plums and dates. Pumpernickel bread. Caramel and honey.

T: Sweet dark fruits with a hint of spice. Picking up on some plum and raisin. A little clove and perhaps cinnamon. Was hoping for more spices, but they are fairly subdued. The grains add an interesting twist that I can't quite put my finger on.

M: Full bodied and sweet, but much thinner than most quads.

O: Tasty but a fair departure from your typical quad. I was looking for more spice and more fruit, but I think the grain overwhelmed them to some degree. This read more as an English barleywine than a Quad. I'm glad a tried it, but probably would pass in the future.

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Stochasticity Project - Quadrotriticale from Stone Brewing Co.
85 out of 100 based on 819 ratings.