Stone 07.07.07 Vertical Epic Ale - Stone Brewing Co.
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2.6/5 rDev -31%
A - Clear with a copper color and tall off white head.
S - Spice, grain and more spice.
T - Spice and grain.
M - Thin and unremarkable.
D - Limited due to the fact the spice is too much for me.
This may be a fantastic beer for some of you out there, but for me there is too much spice. I would try to distinguish what spices are causing the unpleasant taste for me but I just want to get this one over with. Anything that says Stone and Belgian is off limits for me from now on.
10-12-2008 04:42:30 | More by bifrostguard
2.6/5 rDev -31%
Please note that this review is relative to the STYLE - which is chock full of great beers.
A: Slightly opaque, dark orange. Good initial head, but dissapated quickly without retention.
S: Pretty harsh alcohol smell greeted me. Some deep, ripe fruits with a hint of yeast helped to salvage the smell and make it interesting.
T: Fig or Raisin, deep malt, alcohol.
M: Warm alcohol - almost reminded me of a cordial. Rich and deep on the palate, with a slight tang at the end.
D: Not that enjoyable - too heavy for the style.
I'm generally a HUGE supporter of Stone, but was not a fan of this one. Bummer. **I have one remaining - if anyone thinks I should cellar #2 for a year, let me know**
12-02-2007 00:37:48 | More by BeerImmediately
2.6/5 rDev -31%
Presentation: 22 oz bomber, nice silk screened bottle as usual from Stone.
Appearance: Pours a bright copper color with just a bit of sediment, average head and retention.
Smell: Lots of spice and some belgian yeast, maybe a bit of candi sugar? Too much going on here to pick out many details.
Taste: Strange - way too much going on. Mouthfeel is thick, almost syrupy. Very sweet, with lots of spice, and maybe a bit of hops? The spices are trampling all over each other, and all the yeast is contributing here is a bit of earthiness.
Overall impression: I think this one was designed to age - its a bit rough now, but maybe things would mellow and blend over the next few years.
09-18-2007 22:26:59 | More by rowew
2.65/5 rDev -29.7%
Poured this one into a Unibroue tulip. It has a nice white head and the color is what I would imagine from a wit/trippel hybrid. The smell is expected from a wit with a little bit of punch. I realize this is 10 months old already but I just don't really like this taste. I think I'm tasting some ginger and it just really isn't pleasant to me. I also taste clove and spicy belgian yeast but the ginger taste is just ruining this for me. Overall this is my least favorite of all the Stone beers I have had.
05-01-2008 23:19:37 | More by thickerfreakness
2.65/5 rDev -29.7%
all credits due to Stone. The Rock! this is not my favorite style of beer and definately not my first choice at the retailer. this is the first beer from Stone that i will not buy again. with that said it looked good, smelled ok for beer - cloves come to mind. mouth feel and taste are cloves alcohol and more cloves.
ok, worth the notch in the belt.
suckem up and movem out.
09-04-2007 22:39:16 | More by giblet
2.65/5 rDev -29.7%
The beer was served to me hazy yellow in color. There really wasn't much head at all, and a similarly small level of bubble activity as well. 3.5
The first hint I get from this beer is sadly medicinal. There's a base of some booze, and spice, but I can't get passed that initial aroma of medicine. 2.5
The medicine hits the taste as well. It's just like that cough syrup you didn't want to take as a kid. That, mixed with some clove that rests on the palate is not what I would call pleasant. 2.5
The finish is dry and the overall body is light and crisp, with a great level of carbonation. The drinkability is impacted negatively by the taste, however. 3
I really just wasn't a fan of this one. I think that, perhaps, it's a bit too old at this point. 2.5
12-16-2012 12:55:38 | More by russwbeck
2.73/5 rDev -27.6%
I bought this expecting hops, not remembering that all the other vertical epics were Belgian based. My grave mistake.
Anyone who knows me well knows I'm rarely a fan of American Belgians. And stating that, this one does nothing to change that perception.
Color is dark for a pale, closest I can think of in the color palate of Belgians would be Bush (Scaldis), which technically is a Belgian barley wine not a pale with much more malt than your typical Belgian. Aroma on this one has Belgian yeast characterists, but they're not strong. Mostly fruits coming through, with some alcohol. Flavor again is muted with similar effect as aroma, body is almost watery like a German hefeweizen. Alcohol comes in much stronger than the stated 8.4%. I frankly can't believe it's not pushing 10% based on flavor. While yes, many American brews between 8-9% have this much alcohol presence, I can't think of one Belgian that even comes close. The beer label claims it's bottle conditioned, yet no yeast was left in the bottle or apparent in the pour.
Overall I've gotta say bleeeh. Give me a Stone IPA over this any day.
07-04-2007 05:42:39 | More by deeplennon
2.85/5 rDev -24.4%
07/29/07- Purchased at Ledger's Liquors in Berkeley, CA.
Presentation- 22oz bottle, vintage 2007. Poured into my St. Bernardus chalice.
Appearance- A semi-flat looking deep orange color. Smaller than 1/4 inch head forms...a bit creamy looking...leaves minor lace spotting behind.
Smell- Got a bit too close to the beer because I couldn't smell jack. Well, I ended up with a nostril full of 070707. It wasn't very nice either. Smelled like sugary corn syrup. Smelled some orange-tangerine notes as it warmed, but mostly sugar.
Taste- Tasted pretty much like it smelled. Overwhelming corn syrup like flavor. Some corriander and cardamom and maybe some white pepper. Can see a touch of tripel and a touch of saison, but not ones that I would want to drink on a regualr basis.
Mouthfeel- Very low carbonation, almost flat. Yucky sugary coating of the tongue and mouth.
Drinkability- Damn, I hope this one really improves with the years. My least favorite of the VE's so far.
07-30-2007 18:33:11 | More by GClarkage
District of Columbia
2.88/5 rDev -23.6%
22 oz bottle.
Pours a hazed golden copper with a thin white head. Medicinal and soapy aroma with bubblegum malt and tobacco. Flavor is less offensive than the nose but still overly sweet. Caramel and bubblegum with citrus candy. Syrupy body with low carbonation. Difficult to drink.
01-13-2013 19:08:17 | More by yourefragile
2.93/5 rDev -22.3%
22 oz bottle. Pours a hazy golden-orange with a small white head that quickly disappears.
The aroma is wheaty malts with some spices and a little fruit and alcohol and some grassy hops.
The flavor is sweet malts, spices (clove, ginger) with some fruitiness. It has a grassy bitter finish. As it warms, the sweetness and ginger become a little cloying. The mouthfeel is medium and watery with low but sharp carbonation.
Overall, a decent Belgian, but not too striking to me. The blend of overwhelming flavors don't balance out really well.
08-14-2007 06:27:38 | More by Beaver13
2.93/5 rDev -22.3%
Bottle that I bought at Norm's in Vienna right around the time this beer was released. Back in the day, there used to be a 2-bottle limit on this stuff. Wow.
The first pour is clear copper/amber with a dense, off-white head that falls off to a thin disk leaving some lacing. This does look nice. The nose, however, is worse for the wear (I think). Honey, some oxidized/stale sugary malt character, potent spice character, surprisingly so for the age of this beer, are present. Green cardamom, allspice and mace are most noticeable, as is some crystallized ginger. A little bubblegum as well. Decent.
The palate opens moderately sweet and with quite a bit of ginger. This is more of a Belgian braggot than a cross between a saison and a tripel IMO. Sweet, candied ginger, cardamom, sugar, syrup and honey are all present. Medicinal, I can't say I get much yeast character, at least from this clean pour. Alcohol appears on the finish, adding some burn. Medium-light in body, this beer is highly carbonated and this lends a scrubbing, carbonic acid character to the finish. Despite its heavy-handedness and lack of subtlety, this beer is moderately enjoyable, more so than my notes would lead you believe.
01-07-2013 05:41:46 | More by DefenCorps
2.93/5 rDev -22.3%
I was happy to find this one on a road trip but it ended up being a bit of a disappointment. Pours a clear, bright orange color with a thin white head. Aroma is a bit stingy with oranges, perfume and an assortment of spices. The mouthfeel on this is very tart, tangy and slightly dry. The strongest flavors are oranges and coriander, with lots of spices (ginger, cinnamon, nutmeg), some lemon, and light fragrant hopping thrown in there. Interesting but the flavors just don't work for me. Halfway through the bomber I was sick of it. Not an awful beer but it is the worst Stone product I have had so far. Maybe I should have waited until "sometime after December 12th, 2012."
08-30-2008 02:06:03 | More by changeup45
2.93/5 rDev -22.3%
This beer is slightly hazed and throws out a deep golden hue. The head is thin and white. Lacing sporadic. Pretty nice aroma with belgian yeast apparent. Nice little sweet doughiness. The spices are not overbearing on the nose. I get a little cardamon. On the palate I get alcohol, sweetness and fruits. Tropical punch like. The alcohol is really evident and acts as the buzzkill in this context. Otherwise, I also get some lime notes, ginger and lemon. Too much stuff going on here and it doesn't mesh all that well....right now. Don't know about the future, but some age can't hurt this. I don't forsee cracking another for years....possibly till 2012. My least favorite of the Epics so far.
07-10-2007 03:34:23 | More by Bighuge
2.94/5 rDev -22%
Head on this golden ale disappears almost instantly. Given its age, I am not too surprised. I tried to pour gently but still managed to land some of the yeast beasts into our Teku glasses.
Syrup, honey and white grape notes predominate. A bit of ginger and citrus pith. A bit of creaminess but maintains dryness in the finish. Carbonation is crisp and tight; it feels really good on the palate. I wish a bit more fruit character would come out and play with the delightful carbonation. Medium to medium-full body.
Overall this is an interesting beer that I held onto for almost six years. I'm guess a year younger might have actually been its prime time as there is a hint of oxidization. This maybe would have been best for a 08.08.08 or 09.09.09 release? Some of the fruit and spice notes have been mellowed out too much in the aging process without much else to give way.
07-09-2013 01:01:54 | More by Zraly
2.95/5 rDev -21.8%
Enjoyed on 8/27/11. Thanks to SDsurfer217 for this beer from his cellar.
Lots of hiss comes out of this one despite it being released 3_ years ago. Impressive
A: Pours an orange color w/ 3 fingers of head. Very foamy, big bubbles dissipate slowly.
S: Apple spice smell. Ciderish smell. Pretty simple
T: Spices and apple. A liff bit of boozy/heat taste in there as well
M: Tons of carb. Little bit of heat/burn feel
O: A spiced apple beer. Very blah. Not horrible just really plain.
09-04-2011 07:14:36 | More by gregshead
2.98/5 rDev -21%
Pour: dirty orange with a modest white head on top. The smell is heavy on the spice; ginger, coriander...definitely reminds me of a saison in certain ways as well.
Flavour, very sweet and spicy up front...the ginger and coriander from the nose is prominent, but it is complimented by a sweet maltiness, almost bordering on sugary. Light citrus is also present, not in a hoppy way though, just a touch of zing. A bit of banana as well. This becomes increasingly abrasive as it warms though, and the spices become absolutely overwhelming near room temperature. The score I'm giving it here is an average of the good score that it had when it was still cold, and the bad score that it had once it was warmer.
Mouthfeel, full but not over the top, plenty of carbonation, some tongue bitter. Drinkability, about as good as you could expect for such an intense spice flavour, which is to say, not that good. I would expect this to improve as it ages.
The bottom line: if you like highly spiced, Saison/Belgian Pale style ales, then this is worth checking out. I think age will improve the spice depth here and allow the individual flavours to come out more, but for the present, this beer is strongly on the abrasive side, particularly once it warms, and I would recommend letting it age for a bit (a year or two?) before cracking the bottle.
09-30-2007 03:06:07 | More by CortexBomb
2.98/5 rDev -21%
Golden and slight hazed body topped by a puffed up head. Nice billowing and some chunks formed in the center. Calmed down to a mild head...a bit slick looking.
Smell is a bit weak. Belgian yeast, corriander, some biscuit. Not very strong, but not bad.
Taste has hints of the Belgian yeast characteristics, slight spice and little buttery. Feels like a carbonated wit beer, I don't like it. Too tingly for me. Drinks fairly well. I'll get some more a plunk 'em down in storage.
06-28-2007 18:44:49 | More by Mebuzzard
3/5 rDev -20.4%
Bottle poured at Canal St Brewphoria 9. Served into a 5 ounce sampler.
A: Hazy and cloudy golden orange with a nice sized fluffy, rocky white head. Touches of lacing are left on the glass, and the dissipation although rapid, leaves a moderate cap behind.
S: Peppermint, clove, ginger, cinnamon and very floral aromas. There's really no hop bitterness, the floral component is more pollen-like and peppery in a way. There's a lot going on here, a bit chaotic at times but it certainly will be an interesting beer to try.
T: Whoa, lots of sweet and sugary ginger and peppermint flavors up front. The palate is dominated by these, helped only by some yeast esters and Belgian spice mid-palate. The finish is sweet, cloying and sticky. Eh, this is okay, doesn't show any signs of oxidation but I couldn't drink more than a sample of this. Just a bit over the top with some really weird flavors.
M: Creamy, medium-bodied with light touches of bubbles on the tongue. Again, somewhat sticky in the finish but not a bad feel by any means.
It wasn't necessarily a gross beer but it's nothing I'd want again nor more than a few ounces of. The flavor profile went on a tangent and never came back. Sweet, gingery and minty, kind of odd but I'm glad I was able to sample this one.
11-13-2011 17:00:12 | More by ShanePB
Stone 07.07.07 Vertical Epic Ale from Stone Brewing Co.
85 out of 100 based on 547 ratings.