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Green Flash / Pizza Port Carlsbad / Stone Highway 78 Scotch Ale - Whisky - Stone Brewing Co.

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Green Flash / Pizza Port Carlsbad / Stone Highway 78 Scotch Ale - WhiskyGreen Flash / Pizza Port Carlsbad / Stone Highway 78 Scotch Ale - Whisky

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BA SCORE
86
very good

88 Ratings
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Ratings: 88
Reviews: 11
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 12.99%
Wants: 6
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
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California, United States

Style | ABV
Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy |  12.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: womencantsail on 07-17-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewmasters Stone's Mitch Steele, Green Flash's Chuck Silva and Pizza Port Carlsbad's Jeff Bagby created this intensely malty brew named after an 18 mile stretch of asphalt uniting their three breweries.

Unfiltered and aged 16 months, 20% Highland Malt Whiskey Barrels, 40% Islay Malt Whiskey Barrels, 40% Lowland Grain Whiskey Barrels. Producing a complex beer with a harmony of rich flavors. Bitter oaky tones, sweet vanilla and maple flavors and earthy smokiness.

There are two different bottlings of this release. Batch #1 (Chuck/Jeff/Mitch Blend) and batch #2 (Wagner Blend). The Wagner Blend is higher in Highland Malt Whiskey and much lower in Lowland Whiskey.

Batch 01: Green Flash/Pizza Port Carlsbad/Stone Highway 78 Scotch Ale aged in Scotch Whisky Barrels: “Chuck/Jeff/Mitch” Blend (Released: 02.10.13) - 12.5% ABV

Batch 02: Green Flash/Pizza Port Carlsbad/Stone Highway 78 Scotch Ale aged in Scotch Whisky Barrels: “Wagner” Blend (Released: 02.10.13) - 12.2% ABV
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Ratings: 88 | Reviews: 11
Reviews by arizcards:
Photo of arizcards
3.45/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.25

Picked up a 500ml bottle from the Stone Company Store at Liberty Station back in late July for $18.00. The beer has been kept cold since the purchase at the Store

Beer poured brown and flat.

Nose is great, lots of vanilla and peat.

Taste is vanilla, peat smoke, some caramel. Very sweet to the edge of being cloying.

Mouthfeel is disappointing, the carbonation is non-existing and overall this does not come across like a beer.

Don't get me wrong as i am a huge fan of Stone but overall this was very disappointing for the price tag. There are some redeeming qualities with the great nose and how well the abv is hidden but that will not overcome a lifeless mouthfeel and the fact it is a tad too sweet.

More User Reviews:
Photo of claspada
3.78/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pours a virtually still dark amber color with little to no khaki colored head that recedes to leave some spotty lacing.

Aromas are all peat, scotch and booze initially. As it warms I get some darker fruits and toffee from the base beer and some estery lighter fruitiness. But make no mistake the peat and scotch barrel aging are the big contributors here.

The flavors follow the nose with a ton of peated maltiness and boozy scotch oaky flavors. The dark fruits and toffee and even a pear fruitiness are in the background but only pop out occationally over the charred oak and smokey peat flavors.

Mouthfeel is medium to heavy bodied due to the lackluster carbonation, which isn't a big factor and makes sense for this style. Finish is quite oaky and drying.

Overall this is a huge difference than the base beer and really only for fans of heavily barrel-forward beers or fans of peated scotch whiskey. The beer flavors are almost non-existent in this treatment.

Photo of Benish
3.41/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Acquired this bottle from a friend. Poured into snifter glass.

Appearance: brownish red color; almost like a dark brown ale; head was not impressive, it built up while pouring aggressively but dissipated quickly to nothing.

Smell: tons of vanilla, some apricot; it's a little dank; the scotch is noticeable but just a little weak; smells like a wild sour ale yet it doesn't taste infected

Taste: pretty sweet throughout the entire taste; picking up some vanilla and plenty of booze; the scotch barrels is quite presentable - some carmel notes, heat, and at the finish sweet oak. A tad bit tart near the finish as well.

Mouthfeel: a little bit of heat at the finish, this beer is quite boozy. Mouthfeel is medium bodied and slick.

Overall: the scotch is quite presentable when I tasted it. It's good, no doubt about that, but it's not something I'd go after. I know this was aged in scotch barrels but I'd pick Central Waters BB Scotch ale over this.

Photo of sweemzander
4.2/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Corked and caged bottle poured into a snifter. Chuck/Jeff/Mitch blend

(A)- Pours a cloudy caramel brown color. Some off-white froth.

(S)- Slight briny saltiness (peat) from the barrel. Sweet yet slightly meaty with caramel and oak.

(T)- Love the peated scotch barrel on this. Slightly sweet yet lighter than expected with a meaty (jerky) middle.

(M)- A great balance for me. The peated aspect of this really turns this into something special. One of the few peated scotch barreled beers that pulled this off without making it overly salty or jerky-like (its there but in subtle nuances).

(O)- Well balanced and one of the better peated scotch barrel treatments I have had to date

Photo of womencantsail
3.78/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours amber in color with minimal head formation. Nose is sweet and fruity with a strong apple character, which I typically get from Glenlivet. A fair amount of malt note with a hint of wood and peat. The flavor is nice. The same apple note is there along with toffee and bread, maybe a touch of brown sugar. Minimal wood contribution and not much in the way of peat.

Photo of kojevergas
3.14/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I didn't like the base beer and I don't think too highly of Stone, so expectations are low. 2013 series. Batch 01. 12.5% ABV confirmed. "Unfiltered and aged 16 months." Bottled January 2013. 17 IBUs. The bottle is 500ml but seems contructed to look like a 750; very deceptive marketing practices. But hey, it's Stone. "Ale aged in Scotch Whisky Barrels." Brown glass bottle with cool label art and design and a branded hood-and-wire cap over a cork acquired at a SoCal bottle shop and served into a Mitchells of Lancaster flared stem-tulip in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.

A: Pours a one finger head of khaki colour. Nice thickness. Okay creaminess. Retention is below average, ~1-1.5 minutes, but it's forgivable given the high ABV. No lacing as the head recedes.

Body colour is a dark ruby; transparent and translucent. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Looks about right for the style, but it's not unique or special. I don't notice any overt flaws.

Sm: Lovely vanilla and red wine notes. Some oak. Bright fruity notes - cherry, grape, currants. Definite whisky notes, including maple and wood (but not oak). Cane sugar. Amber malts. Fruity hopping. The barrel notes seem to clash a bit with the base beer, but there's some interesting stuff here. I just hope the flavour profile isn't as poorly balanced as the aroma - but then I remember that we're dealing with the brewery that put out Arrogant Bastard - and I realize chances are this is going to be a flat-out mess. Aroma is pretty strong and assertive.

T: Much smokier than I would have guessed, with heavy whisky overtones that drown out the base beer. Lots of peat. Some light vanilla and maple - more towards the climax than up front. Heavy on the whisky really announces itself distinctly here; you wouldn't confuse the whisky character with bourbon. Sugarcane. All malty flavours are clobbered by the barrel notes, but I'd guess caramalt and amber malts. I don't get any chocolate or crystal malts as mentioned on the label. Rich. Apple. Toffee.

Hopping is fruity and bright, evoking notes of vague indistinct cherry and berries. Touches of floral character. Flavour intensity is fairly high. Flavour duration is above average.

Balanced? Nah, not really. But it isn't a mess. Complex, but in no way subtle. The base beer seems almost irrelevant; they barrel aged this one so heavily it was never about the beer. I don't see much reason to brew this; it's clearly more interested in emulating whisky than it is in adding nuance to beer.

No yeast character is detectable. Alcohol is well concealed.

Mf: The smokiness and peat really coarsen and dry the texture out, which is an interesting effect. Acidity is average. Thick. Fairly heavy on the palate; it's got decent presence. Suits the flavour profile in a general sense, facilitating deliver of the flavours. Overcarbonated.

Dr: Not the mess I expected. There's definitely some interesting barrel character here; the smokiness and peat in particular are really enjoyable. The whisky notes are the obvious focus, and I enjoy that aspect of the beer. The base beer gets overwhelmed by the barrel notes, which may actually be for the best seeing as I disliked the base beer. I wouldn't get this again, but I'm sure it'll find appreciators. I'll have some trouble finishing the bottle, but I'll manage it. The more I drink it, the more tired I get of it. Thank god it's only 500ml.

Is it a good wee heavy? Hell no. But outside of style conventions it's a downable brew with well-hidden alcohol. It'll get you drunk.

C+

Photo of scottfrie
3.82/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

500ml bottle into snifter. Chuck/Jeff/Mitch blend, bottled January 2013.

A: Pours a clear woody dark brown with a couple fingers of fizzy dark tan head. Head quickly faded into a faint collar that left minimal spotty lace down the glass.
S: Sweet notes of caramel, raisins, whisky, balsamic vinegar, maple syrup, wood, and sherry come through on the nose. I get a hint of peat but apple as well.
T: Follows the nose with strange flavors of peat, whisky, woody barrel, caramel, and slight apple, but I also get hints of vanilla, scotch, bread crust, smoke, and stone fruits. The finish is sweet and full of whisky flavors, but there is no booziness to the brew at all. The sweetness carries over to the aftertaste, which leaves a peat/whisky/sugary/butterscotch taste in my mouth.
M: Medium body, lighter than I expected, with fizzy carbonation made up of tiny, tight, bubbles that tingle on my palate. The mouthfeel is sweet and smooth yet finishes rather dry and slightly gritty. No trace of alcohol at all.
O: At first I wasn’t really digging this, but after a while it started to grow on me. It has a very unique taste that I can’t quite put my finger on, but I’d say it’s an improvement on the original.

Photo of chingonjefe
4.45/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a bottle at the Stone Store in Pasadena. Cut up my finger twisting off the cork from a crack on the lip, but I won't let it influence my rating. Poured into a Stone pub glass. Zero head or carbonation. Dark amber in color. It definitely has the taste and smell of Scotch whisky. I found myself sticking my nose in the glass for repeated smells like I would with a fine wine. Thankfully, the Islay Scotch barrels didn't overwhelm it because I don't care for peat. Exceptionally smooth drinking for a 12.5% ABV beer. I recently had Sucaba, Bigfoot BA and Older Viscosity. It's not as good as those three, but still an exceptional beer.

Photo of MasterSki
3.81/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Not sure which Batch this was, but thanks to Chris for sharing. Served in a snifter.

A - White foam settles to a thin collar and not much else. Transparent amber body.

S - Scotch whisky, vanilla, caramel, peat and smoke, oak, treacle, red fruits. Pretty much what you'd expect from a Scotch barrel aged Scotch ale. Solid balance here though; appreciate that it isn't a peat bomb.

T - The taste is similar, albeit more scotch-heavy. A mix of charred oak, peat, permanent marker, and perhaps a bit of chocolate and roasted malt presence. Not as well-integrated as the aroma in any case.

M - Medium body, with a dry, oaky, and tannic texture. Pleasant moderate carbonation, with a bit of alcohol warmth to it. Seems thin for 12.5%; thought this was a much smaller beer.

D - Interesting beer that had high potential for disaster but actually turned out OK. Decent, but not great. I'd be curious to try the two blends side-by-side to see the difference.

Photo of facundoCNB
3.94/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

a reddish burgundy/brown in color, 2 fingers of very transparent looking foamy head which dissipated quickly. aromas of sweet malt, coffee, chocolate, raisins, figs, pecans, vanilla/oak. the flavor is bourbon all the way.. actually even getting some smoky pepper in there too, warming up you get more of the sweet malt, some charred oak characteristics, grapes, raisins. honestly, for the abv, and the barrel aging - the booze is pretty well hidden. the body is quite thin for as heavy as the beer is, carbonation is barely there.. not really enjoying how this feels.

i'm honestly kind of dissapointed in this beer. i remember LOVING the beer fresh (non barrel aged), but this just isn't what i remember.. by any stretch. if you like cask whiskey barrel aged beers then this should be up your alley. i like some carbonation in my beer, so i'm not really into the way this drank.. the flavor and aroma were on point, but it just lacks without the bubbles.

Photo of inlimbo77
4.21/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

500ml, 2013
Batch 1
The Lost Abbey

A: Deep amber color. Reddish hues. You can still see through the beer, which I was surprised by. Layer of light tan collar. Some carbonation so not completely still.

S: Petey smoke. Very pronounced from the booze barrel aging. Sweet malts. Caramel and toffee. Vanilla. Some aged oak.

T: Up front smoke. Sweetness. Vanilla. Oak. Tannic notes. Long finish. That Pete smoke lingers with you.

M: Big medium bodied. Leading to full.

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Green Flash / Pizza Port Carlsbad / Stone Highway 78 Scotch Ale - Whisky from Stone Brewing Co.
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