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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
80
good

636 Ratings
THE BROS
73
okay

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Ratings: 636
Reviews: 184
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14%
Wants: 7
Gots: 48 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 636 | Reviews: 184
Photo of TastyFoodAndDrink
2.86/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On sight, "The Perfect Crime" pours a pleasant deep chocolate brown with just a hint of off white head. The nose is one of smokey espresso with a hint of spice and hop. Perhaps time in the bottle has robbed it of some complexity.

On the palate it opens with the same smoked flavor, but then gets a little bit funky. The medium and smooth body carries spice, but not in a discernible way. The roasting almost takes on a piney-herbal note. It ends rather slowly with a pine-chocolate smoke flavor that, while not bad, isn't something that asks for you to come back. Perhaps two years ago this was more entertaining, but now it seems little more common place, calling to mind Back in Black from 21st forcibly.

Photo of EHopkinsi
2.68/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.75

Bought a 2012 in November 2014. Sampled it in November 2014, as well.

I thought saisons cellared well. Either I am wrong on that, or there was something wrong with this one, or it was just a crappy beer.

Will not comment further than to say it was awful.

Photo of dar482
3.52/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours out in a light black color.

The aroma has roasted malt, a light herbal and spicy quality, a light breadiness.

On the flavor, the beer in the front has a porter like roasted malt and coffee. There's a spicy black pepper that combines well with the medium minus smoke and bacon quality. A hint of fruity esters. The finish is even more bacon, spice, herbal hops.

The decent brew with good qualities, but lacking in excitement.

Photo of utfiero
3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Color- thick espresso. Full coffee foam head.

Aroma- hoppy and spiced with hint of roastiness.

Taste- An odd bird of a brew. Starts smokey with active carbonation, slightly bitter and roasty, finishing with a lingering rich roast and hops. Described as a black smoked saison. A Stone collaboration.

Poured from 650 ml bomber into a Liefmans Goudenband glass (my preferred all purpose beer tasting glass). Tasted 7/7/2013

Photo of Bouleboubier
4.2/5  rDev +20%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

(bottle from 2012 - stored in a room temp environment, out of light - poured into a balloon)

A: somewhat impenetrably dark brown liquid, rather clear pouring from the bottle... tall tan-colored foam, rather compact for the most part, notable portion of islands of larger bubbles - possible sediment corruption... little lacing

S: toffee, touch of coffee grounds, and a rather pungent piney-leafy greenness... mildly smoky semi-dark cocoa, hints of black pepper and licorice perhaps... smells very much like a hoppy west coast stout - too much dark malt presence to be mistaken for a "saison", though it's nuance is there

T: a lot of the complex spiciness you'd expect from a Dupont, up front, and surprisingly matched/balanced against the bold, rich, smooth, decidedly Baltic porter malt flavors... unmistakably Belgian yeast phenolic character... wisp of smoke and soapy-floral in the aftertaste... rather soft yet supple bitterness reminiscent of a mix of orange-peel and dark chocolate

M: smooth and fullish like an Imperial Stout, coating the palate on pass-by with a coffee and creme type of texture... finishes quiet and dry, mellow warmth, if any... residual dark sugar and hop resins stick behind

O: don't know what this was like relatively fresh, but it's not too shabby in its current state... perhaps it's mellowed a bit on the spiciness, who knows?... still has a lot of flavor to offer, might just develop even more with age

Photo of chinchill
3.31/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

At 2014 Most Arrogant Bar Bash (Barleys in Greenvillle,SC)

Pours black and opaque, with a very good head.

Flavor: very floral, a bit 'wild', with Belgian yeast and light and medium roast malts. Medium+ strength. A bit sweet up front; clightly funky and slightly bitter aftertaste.

O: interesting and moderately complex but not my cup of tea.

Photo of Furlinator
3.79/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle dated 2012

Pours opaque dark brown with 1/8 inch of khaki head that settles to a thin ring on top and leaves faint spotty lace.

Smell is somewhat subdued overall and is floral up front with faint dark cherry and bready malt on the finish.

Taste is of piney hops up front with grapefruit and a hint of honey on the back end.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low carbonation.

This one is hard to categorize. It has a strong hop presence initially with bold malt in the finish. Tart citrus notes and some honey sweetness round it off. A solid effort whatever style you choose to call it.

Photo of BierJager89
4.39/5  rDev +25.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Black with a mocha head.

S: Fruity/citric hop character dominates the nose with just a touch of smoke.

T: Fruity, orangey hops, but not bitter or harsh, with smoke in the finish that lingers in the mouth, commingling with the prior citric fruitiness.

M: Medium bodied and smoothish. Smooth for a saison.

O: Definitely worth a try if you can find it. I love the experimentation stillwater has done with their saisons. This collaboration is not unlike some of their other beers.

Photo of GarthDanielson
3.64/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a bottle into a shaker pint, the beer is a very dark, brown-to-black coloring with a frothy, bubbly, dense, low profile, light tan head. Aromas of tangy sweet, roasted notes, bitter coffee and hops characteristics, tart fruit notes, and subtle spicing. Flavors are tangy throughout, with cherry and berry sweetness. Some very subtle peat and smoke notes, with a hint of tangy hops building towards the tail end. Definitely leaning heavy on the sweet side, with the roast keeping it slightly in check. Light, crisp bodied, with a tangy sweet, fruity aftertaste. Effervescent, crisp finish. This beer is pretty interesting; unlike any I've had before.

Photo of Treyliff
2.96/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

A- pours black, but not quite opaque, khaki foamy and sudsy head that reduces to a small bubbly layer, leaving a little bit of lace

S- strange bouquet of aromas, starting with some toasted grainy malt with a little bit of toffee/caramel, dried dark fruit, blackberries, just a hint of smoke. Not really picking up any saison aromas, but there us an off puting metallic/sour aroma at the end

T- sweet caramel malt flavors are meshed with some astringent dark fruit/berry flavors, their are some faint yeasty saison flavors, but for the most part are masked by a sweet and fruity malt flavor. The smoke aspect is barely detectable any there's some metallic flavors on the finish

M- medium body with low carbonation, slightly foamy mouthfeel with a crisp finish

O- not really sure what they were going for here. This tastes nothing like a saison, the 'smoked' flavors are barely noticeable, and overall it's all over the place

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
2.88/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - dark, no light getting through. Nice finger of light mocha head, lacy and sticky.

Aroma - mostly the dark malts, a whiff of something earthy/saison/funk-like but nothing clear.

Taste - so I'm looking mostly for balance among the black malts and/or smoke, and the saison. The malts are certainly charred, nearly ashen, but not particularly smoky. Mid-palate contains the first note of the saison. I think it's basically the yeast I'm picking up - a little tart and funky but any delicate flavors are lost in the heavy roast. I guess it does what it was intended to do, but it reminds me of a stout that has starting to turn with infection. Ends with the saison dryness and black char.

Mouthfeel - crisp, smooth, good firm body to amply support all the flavor going on.

Overall - not that enjoyable for me, but I can drink and appreciate the good balance to this one.

Photo of BMMillsy
3.3/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with a small head for the style. Smell is smoke, yeast funk, black currant, bit of spice, and some candy sweet smell. Medium mouthfeel and flat for a saison. Fruity flavor, spice, not a lot of smoke. A little funky with some oaky taste and a strange musty bitterness. Finishes dry. Pretty unique, but not blown away by this. Not a bad beer, but not one I would order again.

Photo of Chaney
2.93/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a Stone IRS glass.

A: Poured a dark, burnt brown, with only a few bubbles posing as a head.

S: Smelled like rotten, fermented fruit actually. Quite a bit of booze in there as well.

T: Still, those rotten esters really lingered which wasn't pleasant. I actually kinda dug the smokiness of this though.

M: Very low in carbonation and lacing overall. Okay here.

O: Never would have tagged this as a saison... more like Belgian Strong or something. Either way, it wasn't good.

Photo of srhoadsy
3.14/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Served chilled into a fluted tulip.

Pours a nice sable brown with quarter inch tan, airy head that quickly recedes leaving moderate surface layer and lacing.

Aromas of that musty peppery funk common to the style with a hint of smoke.

Flavors, this is where it falls apart! The flavors follow through from the aromas but they compete with each other to much and nothing really shines through.

Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with a slightly sweet but crisp finish. Fair amount of carbonation and mild aftertaste.

Looks good, smells good, taste is a disappointment. A subpar offering from two otherwise excellent breweries.

Photo of TruePerception
2.57/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

(Previous review, transferred from beer journal)

Collaboration

Stone / Evil Twin / Still Water "The Perfect Crime": black smoked saison, 6.8% ABV, Appearance: very deep dark red in the light; Smell: dark lager, licorice/coffee, light hop, BBQ charcoal; Taste/Mouthfeel: graphite, metallic/mineral, very bitter, coffee at the end, graphite taste sticks to tongue; okay

Photo of Sludgeman
3.1/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

$4.99/12oz. Poured into a chalice. Bottle on 10/16/12.

Even if smokey beers are a turn-off for you (as they can be for me) don’t let this beer’s description drive you away. The smokiness is faint in all areas. Somewhat reminiscent of the Stone/Victory/DFH Saison Buff collaboration in both aroma and taste. Not a true saison though, so to what style do you grade, a Belgian Specialty?

A – Pours a black opaque with a half-finger of light brown/tan head, which quickly dissipates. Average lacing. Head easily recovered with a good swirl.

S – Standard farmyard yeasty aroma but with more of a wheat and even an adjunct component. Some faint peppery spiciness.

T – Smoke is faint, slight creaminess, bitter in the end with a bit of lemon in the finish.

MF – Can I say smokiness in the mouth feel as well, acrid, dry finish. Well carbonated.

Photo of beertunes
2.46/5  rDev -29.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2

A "Black, Smoked Saison"? Uh, OK. Poured into straight pint glass. Poured a solid black color with almost an inch of medium brown head that had decent retention and light lacing.

The aroma blasted out as soon as the bottle was cracked open. A lot of smoke, some yeast and some roast were the dominant aspects. On the tongue all those things combined and clashed all across the palate. The things that Saisons so great are totally covered up by roast and an alcohol sharpness.

The body was thick and sticky, not Saison like at all. Drinkability was a bit rough, with the roast and alcohol being a less than pleasant combination. Overall, a perfect example of why you shouldn't do something just because you can. This beer is kind of a mess. I can't recommend it.

Photo of socon67
3.36/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Brown pour with a thin foam head. Some carbonation is noted.

S - Slight burnt toast smell of roasted malt. There is a little bit of dried fruit smell that gives a sugary smell. Overall my take was that it smelled like a hickory BBQ sauce.

T - Really not sure here. I didn't get anything remotely resembling saison qualities. There was more of a malt presence and dry hop finish than what I expected. Some fig or raisin flavors were noted.

M - Feels relatively light and is easy to dink. Actually leaves a bit of a yeasty funk in the finish. Really a complex and quite odd beer.

O - A bit all over the place and I really don't know what the right classification for this would be. Many of the Stone collabs are out of the box concepts, but in this case I don't think I'd be looking to try this again.

Photo of taylor714914
3.4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a Samuel Smith glass. Thin, dissipating head with minimal lacing. Brownish black in color, almost like a porter.

Not much going on in the smell, some sweet dark fruits, citrus hops. There is a bit of oak, though I don't know if this beer is wood aged.

Taste is decent, but first perception is this doesn't dry out and finish dry enough. Caramel malts are the initial taste with some citrus hops and a bit of resinous bitterness.

Mouthfeel is too thick and sugary. Beer definitely needed more attenuation.

Overall, I think this missed the mark for the Saison style.

Photo of mfnmbvp
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle, 2012 vintage. Not exactly sure of the bottled on date, but my local beer store has been holding down a bunch of these for a while, so I thought it was time to try it out. Got a single bottle for $3.99. My third review of a collaboration beer on BeerAdvocate.

Poured into a Firestone Walker pint glass.

A - Pours a near opaque mahogany brown color that shows ruby hues when held under the light. One finger of thin khaki colored head fades quickly to some froth. Some thin cavernous looking lacing.

S - Smell is light and subdued: some faint bubblegum Belgian malt & yeast smell, some earthiness, light smoke & wood smells buried in there also. The smoke & the malts blend nicely together. The malty smells become more prominent as it warms.

T - Taste is intriguing, yet subdued like the smell. Bubblegum malts, some dark roasty notes, coffee beans, faint smoke & wood characteristics, Belgian yeast, but none of these really push themselves to the foreground, they are all equally in balance with one another. Aftertaste is crisp and of light fruit sugars. Green apple comes to mind.

M - Feel is crisp, with nice carbonation, and some nice fruity apple skin sweetness lingering in the finish. Finishes very dry. Medium-full bodied.

Overall, it was about what I expected, if not a little disappointing. A drinkable beer, but not something I would try again. It has probably matured & tamed a bit since it was fresh, but I am still glad to have tried a bottle. An interesting beer, but I was somehow expecting more from this. I've never had anything from Stillwater before, so I will be on the lookout for more from them. An average beer, but worth trying once.

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone "The Perfect Crime" ---3.5/5

Photo of Darkmagus82
3.94/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a very deep brown, bordering on black, color with a two finger cream colored head. The head is rather fluffy with it fading relatively quickly and it leaving behind a decent level of lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is a rather interesting blend of smells. There is a rather stronger aroma of char, roasted malt, and some smoke with notes of a yeasty and bready smell as well. Mixed with these aromas are some others of citrus and some spice as well as lots of funk composed of some hay and grassy smells mixed within.

Taste – The taste begins with a roasted malt flavor with hints of darker fruits mixed within. There is a sourness upfront that is accompanied by a lighter yeasty and grassy flavor. The sourness increases with a funkiness developing as the taste moves on more toward the end. A bit of a citrus hop as well as some flavors of pine, smoke and char all come to the tongue at the end, leaving a rather sour and tart toasted flavor on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is rather light in its creaminess and thickness with a carbonation level that is on the higher side and consists of lots of little carbonation bubbles. These lighter characteristics are great for all the yeast and citrus saison flavors of the brew, but not the best for the wood, roast and smoke flavors in my opinion. It think this is one thought that is hard to compromise between the differing flavors.

Overall – This was an interesting and actually quite enjoyable brew. The mix of darker roasted and char flavors with that of yeast, sourness and funk combined to produce a rather tasty combination. This is certainly one to try if you can find it.

Photo of FLima
4.23/5  rDev +20.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Collaboration between Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone.
Black color, ruby when put through the light, with a thin head with short retention.
Light aroma of roasted and smoked malts, with notes of caramels and some sourness.
Very interesting flavor of sweet smoked malts with a refreshing pine note, heavy on condiments and some nice funkyness from Breta lyke small devils, giving a special character to it. Dry, bitter and burnt long lasting aftertaste.
Medium body with perfect carbonation and a spicy feeling.
That was a very original and interesting beer, mixing several different styles that ramdomly comes out and disappears. Highly recommendable.

Photo of schwemjw
3.52/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

a: a dark brown, bordering on black. a white swirling head that thinned to a lacing

s: interesting. alot of sweet yeast with funky dark fruit. a touch of rusted malt with a little smoke on the end

t: a touch of roast. some big dark fruit such as fug and raisen. I get some burnt toast with fig jam. smoke on the end with a nice hop bittering.

m: Mouthfeel Is awesome. smooth and easy drinking with low carbonation.

o: this is a very sessionable saison. I could drink a ton of this /84

Photo of KFBR392
3.62/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a dark brown color, sit pitch black in the glass. About two fingers of head which subsided to about half a finger. Very active carbonation with some creamy lacing left on the glass.

Smell: Bready yeast and peanuts jumps out the most. But there are some floral hops, apricots, and spices which really make for a unique aroma. Darker malts and black licorice also can be found. Each time I put my nose to this brew I was finding different aspects that jumped out to me. Nothing is at an elite level, but it is well done how everything going on here meshes together.

Taste: A slight charred malt and oak front hits the palette first. The body evens out with a light to medium bodied yeast kiss. A lot of banana, nut, and leafy greens here. The finish is like the beginning with a chalky smoked malt flavor. The aftertaste is very light, the malt character sticks around. Not as complex as the aroma but still a nice ride.

Mouthfeel: Very light, especially for what the majority of the flavors are here.

Overall: A fun beer to drink. I wouldn't be sure exactly what to call it, but thats part of the fun here. I like going for something bold on a collaboration beer and they did the job. I love the story on the back of the bottle which we all know is synonymous with Stone products, this one written by the Evil Twin brewmaster.

Photo of CHickman
3.78/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours motor oil black color with a massive foamy 2 finger tan head that faded slowly, with tons of different sized bubbles in it that were popping as it went down, leaving good foamy lacing coating the sides.

Smells like roasted grains, chalkdust, chicory, licorice, brown sugar, smoked/burnt wood and herbs; it almost smells like burning dry hops and grains, and it a very timid nose that does not jump out of the tulip.

Tastes like roasted grains, toasted malts, chicory, smoked/burnt wood, licorice, brown sugar, cocoa powder, floral hops, flowers and herbs; has the same taste as some burnt bread pulled off a wood burning fire or coal oven, but then the roasted grains give way to a sweetness which is a combo of funky yeast and cocoa powder – it’s really strange, but very interesting. It was very complex and grew on me with each sip.

Mouthfeel is powdery dry, with a light body, high, fizzy carbonation and a slightly bitter aftertaste that seems like yeast and coffee grinds combined with cocoa powder.

This seems out of place for a Saison/Farmhouse ale, but the label states it’s a black smoked saison, so they pulled off the perfect crime by creating a unique brew that is as advertised a black smoked saison. Extra points for making a one of a kind beer in collaboration with other brewers, but this one is only above average. If you’re a fan of smoked porters or smoke beers then this will be right up your alley.

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
80 out of 100 based on 636 ratings.