Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
80
good

636 Ratings
THE BROS
73
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Ratings: 636
Reviews: 184
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14%
Wants: 7
Gots: 48 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 636 | Reviews: 184
Reviews by Immortale25:
Photo of Immortale25
3.89/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Arrives in an Ovila goblet.

A- Pours an opaque black with a 1/2 inch tan head that bears great retention before becoming a thin ring around the edge of the glass and a sheet of bubbly surface foam. Nice web trails of lacing run down the glass.

S- Slightly funky aroma with not a lot of malt presence given the color.

T- Also surprisingly light and smooth given its color. Doesn't really taste too much like a saison because the mildly roasted malt overpowers whatever yeasty wheat flavors were detected in the aroma. Alcohol is light as any saison's should be although this one's on the higher end of the ABV spectrum for the style. Mildly bitter.

M- This is the only part where it becomes a failed experiment for me. It's crisp in the start, but then there's a very chalky, grainy dryness in the afterfeel. Medium-high carbonation and a deceivingly light-ish body.

O- Certainly an interesting blend of styles. If they can just crack the code on getting that mouthfeel more appealing, this could be a whole new breed of beer. Better than the overall BA score implies.

More User Reviews:
Photo of oberon
3.26/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Poured into a tulip glass jet black with a nice looking large fluffy tannish colored head that stuck like glue leaving multiple globs of lace as it settled slowly.Aromas were dry and very earthy...almost dirty,light spiced phenols and mild smoke rounded out the nose.The palate was dry as well with earthy notes and phenols mainly,the earthiness was to big for my lining,the smoke comes into play more in the aftertaste.Not overly impressed with this offering sad to say.

Photo of SanFranJake
3.63/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

In the interest if full disclosure, saison's aren't my fave but by no means am I opposed and with these three brain-trusts, I had to try.
Pours a dark brown with minimal head which fades rather fast.
Lots of scents like what others have mentioned, none of which really stand out.
Taste leaves a bit to be desired. It's not bad, just not great either.
Overall, would I buy it again...sure. But it wouldn't be a "must have", just a "should try" given the guys who put their name on the bottle.

Photo of Jason
3.18/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz brown bottle with a freshness date.

LOOK: Complete darkness, tight tiny bubble lacing, good stickage

SMELL: Chalky, gummy, carob, dried grass, subtle smoke, dried dark fruit, mild esters, slightly medicinal, spicy

TASTE: Smooth, roasty, bity yeast character, a little creamy, molasses taffy, medicinal herbs, balanced hoppiness, vague smoke, hint of black berries, cocoa nibs, mildly warming alcohol

Was hoping for a bit more crispness or snap, smoke is pretty hard to find and so is the "Saison" traits ... somewhat Belgian-y and that is about it. Missing the point of this beer, at the bottom of all of the Stone collab brews. Nothing bad, just does nothing for me.

Photo of Billolick
3.58/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle, purchased at DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY

Pours near black, light mocha head stays and leaves some low sheeting and decent looking fine lacing.

Nose is full of dark malts, lite smoke, and some minty spice.

More dark malt, more smoke and I get some subtle pepper, mint, and then hoppy dryness to finish things out. Unusual, off beat, a style bender. Decent fall/winter type of brew. Not my favorite, but worth a try.

Photo of ElSid
3.74/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

The Beers of California

#48

Bottled Date: 2012

A: Black and opaque with a thin khaki film of head.

S: Mostly burnt barnyard funk with an acidic edge, dark grain, chocolate and earthy bitterness.

T: The funky bite is there built on a dark grain, bread and brown sugar malt foundation. The malt is predominately grainy with a dash of liquid smoke adding a char edge. There is also some banana yeast esters, bittersweet dark chocolate presence, along with an earthy, leafy hop bitterness which also has tinges of citrus peel. The finish is mildly dry with a spicy, acidic bite.

M: The feel is medium to full with a graIny chewiness and a good amount of carbonation adding another layer of interest to the experience.

O: A truly unique brew which is the product of a collaboration between Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone. Very interesting with layers and layers of complexity which mostly works. With all things new, this brew is difficult to review but the originality found here ultimately succeeds.

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.59/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled on 10/26/12, a trifecta of great brewers came together with one being pretty much the master of the American Saison right now...all three have the collaborative fortitude to do a black beer together considering they all make some of the best dark beers available in craft brewing today. This one pours with a black body jet black with a light fine bubbled creamy tan head, leaves fine lacing down the sides of my tulip shaped chalice. Dry hopping comes thru in terms of earthy pine and mild citrus peels with a dark roasted malts surrounding the hop accents, spicy Belgian yeast gives why to alcoholic phenols and black peppercorns. A pleasant caramel drizzled toast brings out a nuttiness in there as well, all in all chalk full of malt and hops. Flavors collide with the bittering hops here, dark roasted malt bitterness potentiates the pine earthy resinous hops riding the waves of carbonation in my first few sips...as the palate adjusts it's still satisfies with a slightly warming effect of the booze. The dry hopping probably makes and breaks this beer, the strong lingering bitterness really Americanizes this black saison into the hybrid known as the "Perfect Crime" The mouthfeel also welcomes the light smoked meat aspect in the back of the nares, not really dominant against the big hops and dark malts utilized but well played nonetheless. Dry hints of cherry tartness and other vine ripened fruit additions start to explode as the beer warms a bit, complex ale in 12 ounces, I'm guessing this beer keeps getting better considering it's 4/25/13.

Photo of chinchill
3.31/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

At 2014 Most Arrogant Bar Bash (Barleys in Greenvillle,SC)

Pours black and opaque, with a very good head.

Flavor: very floral, a bit 'wild', with Belgian yeast and light and medium roast malts. Medium+ strength. A bit sweet up front; clightly funky and slightly bitter aftertaste.

O: interesting and moderately complex but not my cup of tea.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.3/5  rDev +22.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a jet black opaque body with a thin light tan film of head that is supported by bubbles that race out of the abyss and stick to the bottom of the head.

S- The roasted black malt is very mellow with a cold smoke note in the finish. There is a nice saison yeast ester aroma that turns a bit to new sneaker aroma as it opens, but the aroma always stays light.

T- The nice saison yeast character takes on some dry bubble gum qualities followed by a smooth black malt mellow finish. There is a club soda and cold smoke note to the after taste. As the beer opens some lemon tartness grows quite a bit in the finish. It could be hops but not really distinct, but very pleasant.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat

O- This has all the potential for a train wreck but I would say it truly is the perfect storm. All the flavors come through but they are in just the right balance that it doesn’t get ugly. Each sip made me want another sip just out of pure wonderment. The beer is light and bright even though it has some black malt and smoke flavors. Is this the holotype of a Black Saison?

Photo of Auraan
4.39/5  rDev +25.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured a deep black with a finger wide tan head that dispersed into thin lacing rather quickly. The scent was of licorice and black coffee, with a slight smokey character. Decent, but lacking any complex aromas. The flavor was where the beer captured my senses. It began with sour notes and slight citrus flavors, these remained throughout the sip. The taste than picked up notes of licorice and black coffee as the sip finished. Each sip left a smokey aftertaste that was present, but not overpowering. Quite a good beer in flavor profile. The mouthfeel was quite carbonated, though not enough that the beer was difficult to drink, and the carbonation seemed to compliment the flavors. Overall this is an excellent beer that provided a nice set of flavors that meld quite well together.

Photo of Brenden
3.36/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

The color is a very dark brown, lighter brown creeping in at the edges. A tan head reaches one finger and displays good retention. It sticks around as a tight, creamy foam for as long as there's beer in the glass. Some mixture of patchy and sticky lacing with legs remains.
Smoke is in moderation on the nose, and with it comes a slightly woody note along with a very gently tangy hint, a bit of chalkiness, a spicy nip, and some dark fruits. Not too much changes in the flavor, with the sweetness becoming more distinctive and strong and turning char into a tangy/biting sort of finish. The overall character of this beer makes it impossible to identify as a saison. When a little bit of a yeasty and earthy element is discovered underneath, it at least becomes identifiable as a possibility.
The body is adequate at a solid medium. A crisp bite starts it off and remains strong, though it overtakes the smoothness that comes out a bit. The chalky dryness hits the palate pretty hard. With the tang, the char and the wood, the feel is extremely dry all the way.

Photo of tdm168
3.76/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A - black with a half of an inch of soft, foamy, brownish head that has decent retention

S - spicy with notes from Belgian yeast which are mostly peppery, some dark malts

T - some roasted malts, chocolate, peppery, spicy, faint dark fruit, some Belgian yeast, some herbal notes, mildly bitter finish

M - medium bodied, crisp, a tad overcarbonated

This is a decent beer. The flavor is centered around the spicy notes imparted by the yeast. The overall flavor is good but the crispness of the carbonation interferes with the palate making it hard to really enjoy all of the subtleties. This was nice to try once, but this isn't a beer I'll be buying again.

Photo of socon67
3.36/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Brown pour with a thin foam head. Some carbonation is noted.

S - Slight burnt toast smell of roasted malt. There is a little bit of dried fruit smell that gives a sugary smell. Overall my take was that it smelled like a hickory BBQ sauce.

T - Really not sure here. I didn't get anything remotely resembling saison qualities. There was more of a malt presence and dry hop finish than what I expected. Some fig or raisin flavors were noted.

M - Feels relatively light and is easy to dink. Actually leaves a bit of a yeasty funk in the finish. Really a complex and quite odd beer.

O - A bit all over the place and I really don't know what the right classification for this would be. Many of the Stone collabs are out of the box concepts, but in this case I don't think I'd be looking to try this again.

Photo of Damian74Shensky
3.75/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into an Tumbler. $4.00

A-Black with a nice creamy finger width beige head. Leaves some lacing.

S-smoke and sweetness, a little cocoa, some herbal notes too.

T- bittersweet cocoa, liquid smoke, roasted malts, sweetness up front, lightly bitter with herbal notes at finish.

M-Good nice creamy texture, nice carbonation, medium body feel.

O-I like this beer, would definitely have with bbq, beef dish etc..love the smoke, don't think it's really Saison though. I couldn't have more then 2-3 of these though. Would get again.

Photo of prototypic
3.07/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

The Perfect Crime is a darker mahogany color. It’s dark, but not opaque. Backlighting reveals quite a few burgundy highlights throughout. It’s topped with a soft, tan head. It’s modest, rising to less than a finger in height. It’s rather quick to dissipate. Lacing was a little sticky, but definitely on the lighter side. Looks alright.

The nose is very weak and disappointing. It’s not very aromatic at all. It needs a big boost of strength in a bad way. There are some light spicy and earthy notes. Belgian yeast is noted. It brings a little clove and pepper to the mix. It is a bit earthy and grassy throughout. There might be some noble hops here. Tough to say. I’m not getting anything to suggest it’s smoky. Alcohol isn’t all that strong. There’s a little here, but not much. Needs work.

The flavor is a bit better. It starts out with a mix of earthy and grassy flavors. They resonate throughout. Noble hops are almost certainly responsible for the grassy flavor. There are some dark malty notes. Tastes mostly like bittersweet dark chocolate. No sweetness at all. Belgian yeast is noted and adds some pepper and clove flavors. I like that. There’s a very light charred or smoky flavor, but it’s extremely subtle. I was expecting much more in that department. Alcohol isn’t much of a factor. Finishes earthy, grassy, and very dry.

The Perfect Crime has a light-medium body. Carbonation is active, but doesn’t feel buzzy. Honestly, it feels too thin. Definitely too thin to be smooth. I guess it goes down alright. It’d go down even better if I liked it more.

The Perfect Crime is hardly perfect. It’s not even close. The nose is weak and needs a lot of work. The flavor seems a little jumbled and lacks focus. It’s not a terrible beer by any means, but it’s not very good either. It’s worth a try.

Photo of EHopkinsi
2.68/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.75

Bought a 2012 in November 2014. Sampled it in November 2014, as well.

I thought saisons cellared well. Either I am wrong on that, or there was something wrong with this one, or it was just a crappy beer.

Will not comment further than to say it was awful.

Photo of HalfFull
3.03/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. Stone Collaboration bottle into a large wine glass. This, The Perfect Crime, pours like no Saison I've seen before. Deep brownish black with ruby highlights and a steady cap of deep tan foam.

The aroma was interesting, particularly given the darkness of the pour. Perhaps there is a chance for this....perhaps... or perhaps not. Not..

Flavor is muddled and without nuance as for a Saison. And while this was expected given the color, it still is what it is. I think Black Saison's, like Black IPA's might well benefit from a jump off a cliff.

A decent brew, style aside. And the color here is subtle as in that it's just color as opposed to flavor. Hmmmm.

Photo of bbkd3b
2.42/5  rDev -30.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Part of one my larger beer hauls. Hoping this purchase gets started off on the right foot!

LOOK: Dark-brown, nearly black body has a nice clarity with a ruby hue. Soft-tan head bubbles up to a half-finger before dissipating rather quickly. Some bubble cling to the edge of the glass thankfully. Rather bland-looking beer otherwise.

SMELL: Belgian yeast comes on strong before giving way to a smokier scent. Some hints of pepper and dark fruits with a rather thin malt undertone. I’m talking thin like Stephen-King novel thin.

TASTE/MOUTHFEEL: Really light, watery-feeling brew. The smoke is almost overwhelming and gives a strong sense of charcoal. Bitter aftertaste that I don’t find at all pleasant. Reminds me of aspirin, which is definitely not what I’m looking for. Sharp carbonation. This improved a bit as it warmed, giving a combination of dark chocolate and pepper. One small kick of Belgian earthiness is the closest this beer ever comes to being a Saison. Really not my thing.

OVERALL/NOTES: This is probably the first Stone collaboration that genuinely disappointed me. I appreciate the experimental approach here, but really, I don’t want to try it again. Bleh.

Photo of nimrod979
3.42/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

12 oz brown bottle. Not seeing a freshness date. Poured into a small snifter.

Appearance: Black with a tight light tan head. About a 1/2" thick, retention is a film and crown. Lots of lace here.

Aroma: Earthy, medicinal, slight wood and smoke. Some grass and spice. Nothing complex, but nothing really straightforward.

Taste: Dry, roasted malt. Hints of citrus, grass, licorice. Definitely some farmhouse funk coming into play, medicinal with a dry, chalky and slightly smokey finish. Was disappointed at first but some subtle complexities came to light as the beer warmed. Pushing the boundaries of the term "saison"

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tight carb. dry chalky finish. Leaves a herbal medicinal taste in the mouth that I don't particular want to have lingering. Decent complexities with the flavors. Can see each brewer's influence. Brian's farmhouse, Stone's hop additions... etc. Beer kind of left me wanting more though.

Photo of jtierney89
4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I like the smell of this one. Extremely dark brown but noticably clear. Finger and a half of smokey white head. Very smokey nose, dark roasted malts, touch of chocolate and asphault and an underlying Belgian like funk. Sour funky dark fruit.

This beer is as weird as it sounds but in a good way. Like a Belgian stout but you can taste the saison influence. Smokey but not overwhelmingly so. Nice roastiness with no astringencies and a funky saison feel. Really super complex with a medium rolling creamy body. A really nice funky and drinkable beer. Sweet up front, funky on the back end with balancing underlying hop bitterness. Love it

Photo of Treyliff
2.96/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

A- pours black, but not quite opaque, khaki foamy and sudsy head that reduces to a small bubbly layer, leaving a little bit of lace

S- strange bouquet of aromas, starting with some toasted grainy malt with a little bit of toffee/caramel, dried dark fruit, blackberries, just a hint of smoke. Not really picking up any saison aromas, but there us an off puting metallic/sour aroma at the end

T- sweet caramel malt flavors are meshed with some astringent dark fruit/berry flavors, their are some faint yeasty saison flavors, but for the most part are masked by a sweet and fruity malt flavor. The smoke aspect is barely detectable any there's some metallic flavors on the finish

M- medium body with low carbonation, slightly foamy mouthfeel with a crisp finish

O- not really sure what they were going for here. This tastes nothing like a saison, the 'smoked' flavors are barely noticeable, and overall it's all over the place

Photo of Bung
3.23/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz. Rusty black pour, not much light gets through. Half finger of frothy off white head. Laces a little bit.

Aroma, earthy malt, quite a bit of sage. Some yeast.

Taste, Herbal and piney hop like notes, a faint citrus. Lots of sage. The bitter is kind of in competition with the light malt and work I the yeast and it dominates them. Little bit if cardboard? A faint smokey roast as well, very faint.

Not quite medium body, good carbonation. Drink easy enough. Just a bit too bitter to me, did not come together for me.

Photo of bluejacket74
3.88/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle. Served in a Unibroue tulip, the beer pours dark brown/black with about an inch tan head. Head retention and lacing are both good. The brew smells like roasted malt, smoke, coffee, peppery spice, and some bittersweet chocolate. It tastes like roasted malt, earthy hops, vanilla, coffee, peppery spice, smoke, bittersweet chocolate, and a bit of dark fruit. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit coating and has good carbonation. To me it seems more like a porter or a stout than a saison, but I'm not complaining. I thought this was a good brew overall. $3.99 a bottle.

Photo of Rutager
3.48/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance. Pours a very deep, dark brown with little light coming through and topped with a thin, pale tan head.

Smell. Spicy saison yeast and belgian spices with smokey wood, molasses and a strange perfumey floral smell.

Taste. Charred wood and belgian yeast for the most part. There's a touch of spice and dark malts, but mostly the bitter charred wood and yeast.

Mouthfeel. Medium+ body, medium, quite smooth carbonation.

Overall. A nice experiment, but the smoke didn't go so well with the spicy yeast imo. Not terrible by any means, just not amazing.

Photo of TruePerception
2.57/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

(Previous review, transferred from beer journal)

Collaboration

Stone / Evil Twin / Still Water "The Perfect Crime": black smoked saison, 6.8% ABV, Appearance: very deep dark red in the light; Smell: dark lager, licorice/coffee, light hop, BBQ charcoal; Taste/Mouthfeel: graphite, metallic/mineral, very bitter, coffee at the end, graphite taste sticks to tongue; okay

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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