Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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Reviews: 184
Hads: 638
rAvg: 3.46
pDev: 7.8%
Wants: 8
Gots: 49 | FT: 5
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California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Auraan
4.39/5  rDev +26.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured a deep black with a finger wide tan head that dispersed into thin lacing rather quickly. The scent was of licorice and black coffee, with a slight smokey character. Decent, but lacking any complex aromas. The flavor was where the beer captured my senses. It began with sour notes and slight citrus flavors, these remained throughout the sip. The taste than picked up notes of licorice and black coffee as the sip finished. Each sip left a smokey aftertaste that was present, but not overpowering. Quite a good beer in flavor profile. The mouthfeel was quite carbonated, though not enough that the beer was difficult to drink, and the carbonation seemed to compliment the flavors. Overall this is an excellent beer that provided a nice set of flavors that meld quite well together. (787 characters)

Photo of BierJager89
4.39/5  rDev +26.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Black with a mocha head.

S: Fruity/citric hop character dominates the nose with just a touch of smoke.

T: Fruity, orangey hops, but not bitter or harsh, with smoke in the finish that lingers in the mouth, commingling with the prior citric fruitiness.

M: Medium bodied and smoothish. Smooth for a saison.

O: Definitely worth a try if you can find it. I love the experimentation stillwater has done with their saisons. This collaboration is not unlike some of their other beers. (491 characters)

Photo of Greywulfken
4.33/5  rDev +25.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Described on the bottle as a "black smoked saison", this beer looks to combine characteristics of two styles: the saison and the (presumably) American black ale (ABA).

A: center pour into a nonic pint - slightly translucent black body, tan sea foam head three fingers-thick

S: only noticed slight smoke on the nose, dark bitter roasted malt aromas were cut by slightly herbal and floral notes more typical of a pale ale

T: bitterness from the roastiness; crisp hops and bright yeasts - nicely bittered but light aftertaste

M: light and smooth, slight bitter coating on the palate - very drinkable

O: I have to say this beer probably tastes like what you'd expect if you poured a black ale into a saison. For that reason, I thought the beer very good. I thought it looked, smelled, and felt like "the kinda dame worth gettin' in dutch for"

My tasting biases:
I've had several ABAs, being fond of those that have a sweeter taste and fuller feel (like Dark Element and Dark Horse's Special Reserve) as opposed to having those with a more bitter taste and crisper feel (like a Wookey Jack) - but I liked them all, mind you. Moreover, I feel like Stone's Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale is probably a perfect middle ground for the style.
Saison wise, I've had more than a few - and really liked tham all - but Foret stands out from the rest as exemplifying what I expect in a saison. Caveat: I have never had the Saison Dupont, which some may regard as the definitive saison.

I see my review leapt way above the average... I believe this beer will improve in rating as it gets more reviews - bearing in mind that it attempts to blend of two styles - a feat I think they pulled off very well. (1,692 characters)

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.3/5  rDev +24.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a jet black opaque body with a thin light tan film of head that is supported by bubbles that race out of the abyss and stick to the bottom of the head.

S- The roasted black malt is very mellow with a cold smoke note in the finish. There is a nice saison yeast ester aroma that turns a bit to new sneaker aroma as it opens, but the aroma always stays light.

T- The nice saison yeast character takes on some dry bubble gum qualities followed by a smooth black malt mellow finish. There is a club soda and cold smoke note to the after taste. As the beer opens some lemon tartness grows quite a bit in the finish. It could be hops but not really distinct, but very pleasant.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat

O- This has all the potential for a train wreck but I would say it truly is the perfect storm. All the flavors come through but they are in just the right balance that it doesn’t get ugly. Each sip made me want another sip just out of pure wonderment. The beer is light and bright even though it has some black malt and smoke flavors. Is this the holotype of a Black Saison? (1,162 characters)

Photo of elNopalero
4.29/5  rDev +24%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

This is a collaboration beer with quite a pedigree—Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone? Sign me up!
But a smoked saison?

This pours a porter roasty. It’s dark black-brown in color with a tight cap of cocoa-colored foam. The aroma is slightly smokey, like a smoked … orange? That’s the best I can come up with—if you’re a BBQ enthusiast stick an orange in your smoker and see how close it smells to this. The smoke profile is the most apparent aspect to this brew. Like smoked notes with a mild hop undertone to it. It’s an interesting aroma and an interesting flavor. Tastewise it has an upfront bitterness with the hoppy floral characteristics buried under the smoke profile. Finishes dry with a bit of pine on it. It’s not like any smoked or dark saison I’ve ever tried before. As I enjoyed this I kept thinking this was more akin to a smoked porter, as it came across more like a hoppy cousin to Stone’s own Smoked Porter. The funky, floral saison notes never emerged, at least not enough for it to speak to the style. In fact, stylistically speaking, it’s a muddled mess—but that’s no reason why I can’t enjoy it for being what it is. The finish is bitter and smokey. As it warms & opens it has a nice piney-resiny finish to it. Really tasty sipper! (1,279 characters)

Photo of udouche
4.28/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle into a tulip glass

A - Pitch black with little thin lacing. Not much head at all. Maybe 1/4 of an inch on a heavy pour.

S - Light scent of smoke that I worked to get. Smells closer to a standard black lager with a sweet carmel and toasted nut at the forefront, but difficult to pull much else. Very mild odor.

T - The first taste is pure black ale with dark fruits, carmel, & roasted malt. As it settles under the tongue I get the saison aspect of Belgian yeast with mild smoke I was looking for. Washes mildly bitter with a hint of hops, but just enough to keep it balanced.

M - Fizzy in a champagne way. Little bubbles that tickle the tongue. A dryness on the back end. Quite light in the typical feel of a saison.

O - Although the smoke that is advertised is very underwhelming when you expect it. Aside from that, it is about as balanced you could hope for in the complex style attempted. You get the some of the black, some of the smoke, and some of the saison without any of them overpowering the other. (1,027 characters)

Photo of artdob
4.25/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours dark black with a modest but respectable head.

Nose has nice roasty characteristics, smokiness, and herbs.

Palate is powerful. Roasted malt, hop bitterness yielding to very light dark fruit, and ending with mild sweetness, even though the roastiness continues thoughout the entire eperience. A longer lasting finish than most beers.

Mouthfeel is creamy with very mild carbonation.

Reminiscent of a porter. Enjoyed this one, seemingly more so than other reviewers on this site. (486 characters)

Photo of FLima
4.23/5  rDev +22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Collaboration between Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone.
Black color, ruby when put through the light, with a thin head with short retention.
Light aroma of roasted and smoked malts, with notes of caramels and some sourness.
Very interesting flavor of sweet smoked malts with a refreshing pine note, heavy on condiments and some nice funkyness from Breta lyke small devils, giving a special character to it. Dry, bitter and burnt long lasting aftertaste.
Medium body with perfect carbonation and a spicy feeling.
That was a very original and interesting beer, mixing several different styles that ramdomly comes out and disappears. Highly recommendable. (651 characters)

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.2/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A collaborative effort from all the good folks at Stone/Stillwater/Evil Twin
After reviewing I realized this was my 1800th review, cheers!

LOOK: Pours a deep brown with a light off white foam that leaves good lace. Has good staying power, and was served in a chalice.

SMELL: Bread, toast, chocolate, grass and slightly funky Belgian yeast.

TASTE: Moderately tart in a Belgian fashion upfront giving way to notes of dry cocoa, coffee, herbs and hops. Mild peppery spiciness paired with a presence of molasses. Dry hopped flavor comes through well.

FEEL: Really nice, smooth and the carbonation is strong and slightly drying, right where it needs to be. Almost creamy, and spicy.

OVERALL: To hell with judging this beer to any one style, it's a conundrum. A very good one at that. But, for being a smoked Saison, the smoke is not very strong. It had more of a pleasant roasted malt flavor. (896 characters)

Photo of Bouleboubier
4.2/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

(bottle from 2012 - stored in a room temp environment, out of light - poured into a balloon)

A: somewhat impenetrably dark brown liquid, rather clear pouring from the bottle... tall tan-colored foam, rather compact for the most part, notable portion of islands of larger bubbles - possible sediment corruption... little lacing

S: toffee, touch of coffee grounds, and a rather pungent piney-leafy greenness... mildly smoky semi-dark cocoa, hints of black pepper and licorice perhaps... smells very much like a hoppy west coast stout - too much dark malt presence to be mistaken for a "saison", though it's nuance is there

T: a lot of the complex spiciness you'd expect from a Dupont, up front, and surprisingly matched/balanced against the bold, rich, smooth, decidedly Baltic porter malt flavors... unmistakably Belgian yeast phenolic character... wisp of smoke and soapy-floral in the aftertaste... rather soft yet supple bitterness reminiscent of a mix of orange-peel and dark chocolate

M: smooth and fullish like an Imperial Stout, coating the palate on pass-by with a coffee and creme type of texture... finishes quiet and dry, mellow warmth, if any... residual dark sugar and hop resins stick behind

O: don't know what this was like relatively fresh, but it's not too shabby in its current state... perhaps it's mellowed a bit on the spiciness, who knows?... still has a lot of flavor to offer, might just develop even more with age (1,442 characters)

Photo of larryi86
4.2/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a tulip

A- Black with a three finger ran head.

S- Mainly light fruits from the yeast, some citrus/tropical fruits from the hops, some pepper, hint of roasted malts and smoke. Very Saison like.

T- Some smoke, hoppy, and a lot of yeast. Citrus and tropical fruits from the hops, works very well with the fruitiness from the yeast, finish has some pepper mixed with some smokiness. Great complexity and I feel that this great balance too.

M- Smooth, medium body.

O- I think that this lives up to the name and what they were going for. I like all three brewers a lot and I think that this is a great example of all three brewers working together. I feel that I am in the minority with really liking this beer but it is very tasty and complexity. I didn't chill this at all and drank it at room temp so maybe that helped, can't wait to get more! (871 characters)

Photo of ngeunit1
4.2/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark black, hint of brown, finger frothy tan-khaki head. Fades medium.

S - Roasted caramel malts, chocolate, smoke, vanilla, coffee, Belgian yeast, spices, pepper, earthy hops.

T - Roasted caramel and chocolate malts, earthy hops, mild bitterness, Belgian yeast, pepper, other spices, vanilla, and smoke.

M - Medium bodied moderate carbonation. Smooth with a smokey and roasty finish.

D - Nicely balanced dark saison. The smoke is a nice touch. (452 characters)

Photo of acsprouse
4.19/5  rDev +21.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A - very dark. Ruby redness coning through against the light

S: roasted malts.. chocolate, smokey

T: roasted malt and smokiness

M: Medium body nice carbonation.

O: good brew. You should give it a try, its a little different on the style that traditional but that makes it fun. Not the best beer.. but its a Good one. (321 characters)

Photo of Friedmanandeggs
4.11/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

I got a 12 oz bottle from my local total wine, kept it in my fridge, and poured it into a tulip glass.

A -- It poured darker than what I was expecting. The head was nice though, light and sandy and pretty dense, with a ring around the edges and some light froth now that it's calmed down.

S -- The first thing I got was the dark roast, like a sweet char (I have trouble distinguishing between coffee and chocolate) with the wild, fresh spring-air quality of the saison behind it. Maybe a little smoke around the edges (the label says smoked) but I think it gets lost in the others.

T! -- Not bad! Nice smooth and sweeter malts up front (like a porter) before it goes into a warmer, peppery, hop finish. There's a little anise on the front, too, maybe fennel. The malts are more dark fruit than they are chocolate or coffee, a little molasses, which I like. Again, I can sort of pull out the smoke most of the way through in a kind of tinny or metallic quality but I'm not sure how I feel about it. It's not unpleasant. The first sip had this really bright, lemony finish, but it's gone now. The aftertaste is definitely dried fruit (raisins?) balanced with hops. It smoothens out very pleasantly as it warms up, too, the hops losing prominence.

M -- It's good! Relatively thick, good for swishing and swilling around. Matches the flavor nicely, too. Their promo video said oat. I can see that.

O -- The only other dark/black saison I've had was the Green Flash/St. Feullien Friendship brew and it was weird. I think the style is a difficult one to pull off, conceptually, I think the roast is appropriate here, I like this one, but it's definitely more black in my book than it is saison. Like this last sip was more like a spiced porter or the Dogfish Chicory Stout. Like there's good complexity, balance and depth of flavors, the saison comes through clearly on the nose, but it's a subtle undercurrent in the taste, just that touch of wild and spice. With that said, it's a totally enjoyable brew. (2,007 characters)

Photo of facundoCNB
4.1/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a dark brown, almost black with a finger of creme colored head, good retention. smells of farmhouse yeast, toasted grains, chocolate, lemongrass. oh hell yeah, band aids, wet hay, lemongrass, toasted grains.. a tart yet smoky flavor profile. now it's all coming together! medium body but drinks like a light beer. nicely carbonated and has a very refreshing mouthfeel even though the flavors are all over your palate!

a great collaboration, but what would you expect?! it's some damn great world wide brewing all brewing an excellent style, and adding a nice dark twist to it. (577 characters)

Photo of grittybrews
4.08/5  rDev +17.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured near-black with a finger of light tan head. Weak aroma of roasty cocoa with a hint of smoke.

Moderate carbonation and a full, creamy mouthfeel. Dark, roasty chocolate up front followed by some fruity esters, a touch of mesquite, and a coffee-like bitterness on the tail end.

Strong flavors that don't quite meld, but that's half the fun. Pretty nice! (359 characters)

Photo of ThePorterSorter
4.07/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Picked up a bottle @ Of Love & Regret

The beer pours a dark black with > an inch of tan head after a vigorous pour. Sticky lacing, no apparent sediment, flecks of brown in the light. The nose is a unique blend of rauch, earthy hops, yeast - neither of which are too distinct or overpowering. However, give this beer some time to warm and you'll be surprised by how the nose changes. The taste ramps up a biting bitterness, which serves to amplifies the beer's smokiness. The aftertaste is a slightly sweet and tart yeastiness, which competes with the beer's palate-coating bitterness. It's a relatively light-medium bodied saison -- yeast, honey, smoke, hops, and alcohol that are all well balanced and has a semi-dry finish. This is a great beer, surprisingly underrated in my opinion. (790 characters)

Photo of Seanniek91
4.03/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served from a 12oz bottle into an Allagash chalice.

Appearance- Beautiful black with 2 finger off white fluffy head that shows no sign of leaving. Good lacing

Smell- Belgian bready yeast, apple, cherry, vanilla, very light smoke, light hops.

Taste- Funky yeast up front, roasted malts, very light smoke. Mostly hops. Hoppier than expected.

Mouthfeel- Light, ample carbonation, clean finish.

Overall- Not bad at all. I wouldnt call this a saison. Reasonably hoppy. (470 characters)

Photo of Mebuzzard
4.03/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A smoked, hoppy saison, eh? Ok, I'll give it a go.

Pours dark brown/reddish. Perhaps black. Off brown foamy head, nice lacing.

Spicy aroma of Belgian yeast, some roasted malt and floral hops. Exactly what to expect. Subtle smoke and caramel.

Flavor is like a saison with smoke and roasted malt. Nothing complicated, I guess, which makes it taste pretty good. The yeast lifts the smoke/roast and dances around. Hops provide a bit of bright floral and slick bite. Finishes dry with some herbal spice.
Feels good, too. Perhaps a tad more carbonation would up the refreshing factor a bit, but this isn't a summer saison. It's quite good (638 characters)

Photo of pkalix
4.02/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

very dark, cant see through it; nice creamy tan head on top which diminsihes to nothing in the time it takes to urinate.
smells... like hops foremost, but a little something malty too....
dang, anything stone is hops, aint it? even a stinking saisson... tastes like al the rest. why does everyone think their beer is so good?
okay, so overall, it's supposed to be a creation among breweries to be a saisson but it tastes like a mellowed ipa. just my opinion. i get the smoked malts, but it just seems that we have to have an overpowering amount of hop to be called stone. am i wrong? my experience of a saisson is a taste of fields. grass, maybe, but not pine. malts, to be certain, but not roasted to the point of being the only way you can taste them...
but it looks nice in the glass . . . . (794 characters)

Photo of EgadBananas
4.01/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours is a nearly black color, with a dark tan head. Had decent retention, and left a nice trail of foamy lacing down the side.

The aroma comprised of pepper, some herbal notes, yeast eaters, grass, and mild backing smoky char note. The smoke was subtle, not over done and lender a nice uniqueness to the aroma.

The more I sipped it the more I enjoyed it. It started a bit more smoky and meaty than the aroma entailed. Then moved to a white pepper and spice note, quaffs of yeast esters, with a smoky, somewhat bitter and herbal finishing note.

The feel was good, was light in body, but was a litter undercarbonated and didn't have that crispness that I enjoy with a good refreshing Saison. Still, it was nice overall.

I love smoked beers and Saison, so I had to try this...and I like it. It's a well executed mashing of of the two, not over done, but kept within the Saison realm. I can however see how this could rub some the wrong way so, if you're open enough to it, keep an open mind. (994 characters)

Photo of jtierney89
4/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I like the smell of this one. Extremely dark brown but noticably clear. Finger and a half of smokey white head. Very smokey nose, dark roasted malts, touch of chocolate and asphault and an underlying Belgian like funk. Sour funky dark fruit.

This beer is as weird as it sounds but in a good way. Like a Belgian stout but you can taste the saison influence. Smokey but not overwhelmingly so. Nice roastiness with no astringencies and a funky saison feel. Really super complex with a medium rolling creamy body. A really nice funky and drinkable beer. Sweet up front, funky on the back end with balancing underlying hop bitterness. Love it (638 characters)

Photo of DrinkSlurm
4/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from tap into tulip at freshcraft in lodo. Pours a deep brown black with ruby hue and about 4 fingers of head. The aroma is fantastic banana hefe...but its n ot a hefe. Some malty roasted notes and some smokyness but banana dominate. Its smells great but not like a saison....hmmm
Taste is nice smoky banana and very floral hops. Some smoke and malts also present.
Its dry...now I know its a saison. Its very dry...nice.
Its a great brew..very Belgian and not American saison.
Im not sure why there are so manh sub par reviews but this is nice, unique, and worthy of a try. I love the huge euro influence in this brew.
Have one.... (642 characters)

Photo of BearsOnAcid
4/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I don't understand the reviews for this beer. These guys killed it. It has everything. Smokey, hoppy, bitter with a dry saison finish. I never thought a beer could have all my favorite flavor profiles in one. It's ridiculously easy drinking and reasonably priced. The best Stone collab I've had.

There's a little acrid bitterness that I find in any dark hoppy beers. Nothing overtly offensive. I don't get any sourness. Yeast flavor profile reminds me of 3711. Lots of pithy bitterness from the hops. I wish it was a little lower in alcohol and came in 6-packs so I can session dis bish. (589 characters)

Photo of Reidrover
4/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle from "Lifesource" Salem. $3.49 Black beer with a nice tan head..lovely. Nice smokey aromas..like crispy roasted ham , a hint of saison and some light hop. Taste is more sweet grapefruit hop and a little saison dryness..the smoke for some reason is not so pleasing inn the taste as it was in the nose..more ashy. Nice juicy mouthfeel. Nice unusual beer (363 characters)

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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