Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.
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1.85/5 rDev -47.1%
First had: firkin at Capone's, Norristown, PA
Honestly, I would not have thought this was a saison if I didn't look it up. I can identify styles with the best of them, but at the time, I couldn't really tell what this one was, and kind of just passed it off as a weak porter.
Dark brown pour, opaque, or at least so it seemed in the light of the bar, a few stray bubbles on top, but otherwise no head. This beer had been sitting for a while, because it wasn't one degree below room temperature. I know that's the point of a cask, but it wasn't working in this case. I tried and tried to get an aroma from this, to the point of nearly dipping my schnoz in the beer, but it just wasn't happening. Nothing! I've had beers with bad aromas, weak aromas, muted aromas, but I really got zero in the nose with this. Taste-wise, I believe I literally said "bleh" when I sipped it. Bland dark malts, soy sauce, burnt cardboard, with a blast of earthy hops in the finish. And all this at puke warm temperature with little to no carbonation...it just didn't work. Light-medium body, and really just unpalatable. Three good breweries making one bad beer. I guess the "perfect crime" was putting this on the market.
11-29-2012 05:57:40 | More by Rifugium
2.15/5 rDev -38.6%
Poured from a 12oz bottle into a pint glass
A: Pours dark with light brown head
S: Smells kinda like asphalt. I couldn't smell any other attributes.
T: Petroleum taste with no desirable flavors that you would expect from smoke or dark roast.
M: The mouthfeel was fine. Plenty of carbonation and body.
O: If I made this at home, I would not serve it to anyone. It truly tastes like it was fermented in a bucket used to tar a roof. I can't imagine ordering a second serving. Bad. Luckily, BevMo has it for $3.19 so you can try it yourself and see for yourself.
11-18-2012 04:20:03 | More by sandiego67
2.2/5 rDev -37.1%
Poured from the bottle into a goblet.
Appearance: The beer pours a dark brown with some light coming through at the edges. There is a half finger of light tan head that goes away quickly.
Smell: Sweeter than expected with some fruity notes that remind me a bit of cherries. I'm getting some mild roast and a faint hint of herbs.
Taste: I'm almost at a loss for words. This beer was a bad idea. There is a bitterness in the finish that just crushes anything else that might be going on. There is a fruity cherry note that is pleasant enough. Lots of roast along with a herbal saison component. The finish is full of roast and has a lot of hop bitterness. Just a mess.
Mouthfeel: The body is medium with a lot of tingly carbonation and a dry finish.
Overall: I really didn't like this one. I'm all for experimenting, but this one was an experiment gone wrong.
01-04-2013 01:56:04 | More by oline73
2.3/5 rDev -34.3%
Pours a dark chestnut brown color that appears pitch black and opaque in the glass with a two finger light beige head that slowly settles into a thick, lasting cap. Streaks of soapy left behind.
Slightly smokey, roasted dark malt aroma with some peppery spice and funky Saison yeast notes. Hints of charcoal/campfire, smoked meat and ash along with dark chocolate, robust coffee and farmhouse funk. As it warms, the smoke gets a bit stronger, overpowering the Saison characteristics. There's also some earthy, piney hops lingering underneath that comes more to the forefront as the beer comes to room temperature.
Medium bodied with a really strange combination of smoked malt, earthy hops, peppery spice and funky yeast which results in an unpleasant, metallic/herbal/medicinal flavor that's hard to drink. Starts off with liquid smoke, burnt malt and charred malts but is quickly overtaken by resinous, piney hops. These two flavors really don't work well together and when you add the Saison/farmhouse elements, this turns into a mess of a beer. Very harsh and tough to choke down. I appreciate their experimentation but I hate the way this beer tastes.
11-15-2012 10:06:35 | More by corby112
2.35/5 rDev -32.9%
Part of one my larger beer hauls. Hoping this purchase gets started off on the right foot!
LOOK: Dark-brown, nearly black body has a nice clarity with a ruby hue. Soft-tan head bubbles up to a half-finger before dissipating rather quickly. Some bubble cling to the edge of the glass thankfully. Rather bland-looking beer otherwise.
SMELL: Belgian yeast comes on strong before giving way to a smokier scent. Some hints of pepper and dark fruits with a rather thin malt undertone. I’m talking thin like Stephen-King novel thin.
TASTE/MOUTHFEEL: Really light, watery-feeling brew. The smoke is almost overwhelming and gives a strong sense of charcoal. Bitter aftertaste that I don’t find at all pleasant. Reminds me of aspirin, which is definitely not what I’m looking for. Sharp carbonation. This improved a bit as it warmed, giving a combination of dark chocolate and pepper. One small kick of Belgian earthiness is the closest this beer ever comes to being a Saison. Really not my thing.
OVERALL/NOTES: This is probably the first Stone collaboration that genuinely disappointed me. I appreciate the experimental approach here, but really, I don’t want to try it again. Bleh.
11-17-2012 04:35:19 | More by bbkd3b
2.35/5 rDev -32.9%
Not a big Stone fan, but I like Evil Twin and the price was right so I picked this one up. Most of these collaborations have been mundane; I don't know why I keep buying them. A Smoked Saison sounds pretty foul as well. But hey, every beer gets a chance. 12 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.
Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.
A: Pours a one finger khaki-tan colour head of good cream and thickness, and pretty decent retention (~2 minutes). Colour is a solid nontransparent opaque black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.
Sm: Heavy rauchbier-esque smoke and bacon notes, with some acrid dark malts alongside cream. Not at all appealing. A mild strength aroma. I'm not looking forward to this.
T: Dark malt foundation with murky smoky lightly bacon-y notes on the climax. No real cream. Dreadfully simple. A bit too bitter. I get no brett notes or anything remotely saison-esque. Earthy but not fruity. Imbalanced and bland. Who knew such an experimental brew could be so non-committal? Drinks like a crappy rauchbier. Underwhelming.
Mf: Too dry and coarse in the late second and third acts. Unmotivated and unfocused. This is a mess. Smooth and wet up front, but also a bit sharp from overcarbonation. Thickness is okay. Presence on the palate is all over the place.
Dr: I'm all for experimentation, but they shouldn't have even brought this to the market. This is a mess of an effort and doesn't warrant purchase. Only the names of the breweries involved will sell this beer. If you want a nice brett-laden saison (even with hints of smoke, if for some reason that sounds like a good idea), look elsewhere. This reminds me of novice homebrewing.
11-17-2012 05:48:32 | More by kojevergas
2.38/5 rDev -32%
Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a half-pint chalice
A: Clear, dark brown color with less than one finger of diminishing light beige foam head. No lacing remains on the glass.
S: Mostly base malt and carbon dioxide, with minor influences from wood smoke and green almonds.
T: Begins dry, with roasted grain and mild yeast phenolics. West Coast hops flavors emerge during the middle, green herbs and mixed citrus, concurrent with rising bitterness. The finish sees a combination of tangy yeast metabolites and scorched bitterness that is intense for the style.
M: Medium viscosity, slightly acidic on the palate, with brisk carbonation.
D/O: This beer combines a host of qualities that prove to be discordant together. Hops and dark malt clash with Belgian yeast, while smoke seems to get lost in the cavalcade.
05-25-2013 15:19:52 | More by beagle75
2.4/5 rDev -31.4%
12 ounce bottle poured into a pint glass.
A: Pours a very dark brown color with a 2 finger head and very nice lacing.
S: I'm not too fond of the smell. There are dark fruits, spice, and some sort of funky smell.
T: Watered down fruits, some spice, smoke, and more funk. Not very enjoyable. This will be a chore to finish.
M: Light to medium bodied with good carbonation.
O: Stone is my favorite brewery, so I'll give anything they brew a try. This is the first time I've been truly disappointed.
12-20-2012 21:01:16 | More by nUgZ
2.4/5 rDev -31.4%
A - Solid khaki head with ok retention and lace. Cola body with caramel highlights.
S - Broccoli, fermented vegetables, lemon, asparagus, sweat. Not necessarily pleasant.
T - Doesn't taste as bad as it smells, but it definitely fell short of my expectations. Just a hint of smoke over light malt, soft floral notes, and a touch of black pepper.
M - Thin body, with a semi-watery finish. Low carbonation, especially for a saison.
O - A super let down considering the caliber of the breweries that are behind this brew. The perfect crime here is that they convinced me to buy this brew.
11-24-2012 18:08:22 | More by vfgccp
2.4/5 rDev -31.4%
Nearly black with some dark chocolate hues when held to the light. Toasted marshmallow colored head, forms 2 fingers with forever retention. Clumpy lacing on the glass.
Bright and citrusy with some Belgian spice notes of clove, lemon peel, rosemary and powder. Can't smell any malt or hop character, unexpected since this such a dark beer. Close your eyes and it's just another an ordinary saison.
Belgian spices in the forefront with clove, lemon pith and coriander. Thin malt on the palate with perhaps some wheat and hints of roasted malt. Really deteriorates on the finish with lemon juice, ashy, chocolate and burnt malt finish. Acidic and some soured milk, pretty bad.
For something so carbonated it's flat. Has the texture of juice or tap water, thin as well. Doesn't do anything to complement the spice taste or cover the abv.
It may be a Perfect Crime but it's still a crime that this beer was brewed. It comes off as an unpleasant sour. Not really much of a roasted malt or a smoked flavor in this beer. Kudos for being bold and creative and all but it's pretty putrid. Disappointed, the first bad Stone collab I've had.
11-30-2012 04:11:08 | More by rawfish
2.45/5 rDev -30%
[Poured into a Tulip glass]
I: I had no idea of this beers existence until I passed by it at the store and figured, what the hell as it was pretty cheap. Stone's collaborations don't have the best reputation, but I do admire the sometimes radical directions these brews go in. These are like experimental beers. As for myself, they've been hit or miss. Let's see if,"The Perfect Crime" can impress.
B:[6.8% ABV 12 Fl. Oz. Bottled 2012 ] These collab brew bottles have always been subdued, but at the same time on the loud end in terms of presentation. Can't say I'm attracted to this particular bottle, but its littered with information like breweries involved, crazy bold title, abv, volume, back story(or should I story?)/brief description, age recommendation, etc. Whether I like the beer or not, I don't think I'll be shelving this one.
A: Pitch black body with a nice big semi mocha head(moderate/slow dissipation), and thin to no lacing.
S: Barnyard funk, fig, some roasted malt, peppery, and Belgian yeast. It kind of burns my nose.
T: Roasted malt, molasses, lemon citrus, tart, and late entry hops(presence comes and goes). There's this really weird background flavor that I can't put my finger on(it's not pleasant). Yeah this beer is imbalanced. Flavors come and go.
M: slight slick/wet finish, medium bodied, medium carbonation, and no apparent alcohol.
O: ugh... I hate to put down a beer, but this wasn't a pleasant experience at all. The biggest problem is that it's imbalanced and some of the flavors are kind of gross. Yes there are hints that this is a black Saison, but not throughout. I feel like they just threw in ingredients without much thought.Perhaps it's called,"The Perfect Crime" because people will buy anything with Stone name. I can't recommend this.
11-30-2012 07:06:23 | More by MEsoJD
2.45/5 rDev -30%
A "Black, Smoked Saison"? Uh, OK. Poured into straight pint glass. Poured a solid black color with almost an inch of medium brown head that had decent retention and light lacing.
The aroma blasted out as soon as the bottle was cracked open. A lot of smoke, some yeast and some roast were the dominant aspects. On the tongue all those things combined and clashed all across the palate. The things that Saisons so great are totally covered up by roast and an alcohol sharpness.
The body was thick and sticky, not Saison like at all. Drinkability was a bit rough, with the roast and alcohol being a less than pleasant combination. Overall, a perfect example of why you shouldn't do something just because you can. This beer is kind of a mess. I can't recommend it.
07-07-2013 18:14:48 | More by beertunes
2.48/5 rDev -29.1%
I got to say I love trying the Stone Collabs but I have had very few that were great but mostly its a very average!
Pours nice finger head that dissipates relatively quickly. Nice lacing on the glass, smell is slightly yeasty and mouthfeel is thin. I get more of a spicy smoky flavor towards the end. Leaves a dry chalky taste in my mouth (not pleasant)
Overall I would expect more from these 3 great brewers, in my opinion a poor attempt at a saison!
12-05-2012 23:17:52 | More by MIA4IPA
Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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