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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"

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BA SCORE
80
good

587 Ratings
THE BROS
73
okay

(view ratings)
Ratings: 587
Reviews: 179
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14.29%


Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012)
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chinchill

South Carolina

3.28/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

At 2014 Most Arrogant Bar Bash (Barleys in Greenvillle,SC)

Pours black and opaque, with a very good head.

Flavor: very floral, a bit 'wild', with Belgian yeast and light and medium roast malts. Medium+ strength. A bit sweet up front; clightly funky and slightly bitter aftertaste.

O: interesting and moderately complex but not my cup of tea.

Serving type: on-tap

03-06-2014 03:13:53 | More by chinchill
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Beer-A-Lot

Virginia

3.81/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

On tap at Birch.

A - Dark brown color, nice bubblt head.

S - Aroma of figs, pine, flowers.

T - Sour, slight bitter, very subtle roast. Very mild at first. But gets better as it warms--bitterness increases for the better and less light cream.

M - Huge mouth, creamy.

O - Very different for the style. Easy drinker. Perhaps too light. Not bad but it doesn't blow me away.

Serving type: on-tap

01-23-2013 03:25:51 | More by Beer-A-Lot
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champ103

Texas

3.13/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

On tap at Cottonwood in Houston, TX

A: Pours a dark black color with some ruby around the edges. A two finger beige head forms, and gently recedes. Light lace is left behind.
S: Very neutral in the nose. Some toasted malts, dry bitter chocolate. Really not much else.
T: Well, like the nose there is not much here. Nothing really to make out other than some toasted malt, cereal grains, burnt toast, and bitter chocolate in the finish.
M/D: A medium body and carbonation. Fairly crisp, dry, and smooth. Not hard t drink. Though not something I particularly enjoy. I can't see myself coming back to this.

Just blah. I have never been a huge fan of Stone. Though their beers are always packed with something, whether or not I like that is another story. An uncharacteristically...uncharacteristic offering. And what the hell is a "Black Saison" anyway.

Serving type: on-tap

01-09-2013 02:47:36 | More by champ103
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BucannonXC5

California

3.63/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Type: Draft
Glass: Tulip
From: Stone Brewing Company
Price: $6
BOD: N/A

Black with a finger (when I got it) of tan head. Good lacing - foamy and milky. Good retention.

Smelled toffee, caramel, chocolate, molasses and light dark sour fruit.

Tasted sour fruit, grape, kiwi, plum, chocolate and toffee with a slightly bitter finish.

Medium body. Oily texture. Fizzy (high) carbonation. Astringent finish.

I was a bit disappointed overall. Lots of flavors but nothing that really stood out.

Serving type: on-tap

12-09-2012 10:25:21 | More by BucannonXC5
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Immortale25

North Carolina

3.89/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Arrives in an Ovila goblet.

A- Pours an opaque black with a 1/2 inch tan head that bears great retention before becoming a thin ring around the edge of the glass and a sheet of bubbly surface foam. Nice web trails of lacing run down the glass.

S- Slightly funky aroma with not a lot of malt presence given the color.

T- Also surprisingly light and smooth given its color. Doesn't really taste too much like a saison because the mildly roasted malt overpowers whatever yeasty wheat flavors were detected in the aroma. Alcohol is light as any saison's should be although this one's on the higher end of the ABV spectrum for the style. Mildly bitter.

M- This is the only part where it becomes a failed experiment for me. It's crisp in the start, but then there's a very chalky, grainy dryness in the afterfeel. Medium-high carbonation and a deceivingly light-ish body.

O- Certainly an interesting blend of styles. If they can just crack the code on getting that mouthfeel more appealing, this could be a whole new breed of beer. Better than the overall BA score implies.

Serving type: on-tap

12-07-2012 05:45:18 | More by Immortale25
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metter98

New York

3.85/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Mugs Alehouse, Brooklyn, NY

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a finger high off white head that died down, leaving lacing on the surface and a coating of bubbles down the sides of the glass.
S: There are aromas of Belgian yeast and dark roasted malts in the nose. Some notes of smoke become evident as the beer warms up.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has a little less flavors of roasted malts but added flavors of smoke. There are also some hints of oak.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation. The finish is dry and a little chalky.
O: This is a nice black saison that is easy to drink and has some nice roasted flavors; the smoke definitely makes this beer unique. It is very flavorful given its light body.

Serving type: on-tap

12-02-2012 12:44:59 | More by metter98
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DrinkSlurm

Connecticut

4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from tap into tulip at freshcraft in lodo. Pours a deep brown black with ruby hue and about 4 fingers of head. The aroma is fantastic banana hefe...but its n ot a hefe. Some malty roasted notes and some smokyness but banana dominate. Its smells great but not like a saison....hmmm
Taste is nice smoky banana and very floral hops. Some smoke and malts also present.
Its dry...now I know its a saison. Its very dry...nice.
Its a great brew..very Belgian and not American saison.
Im not sure why there are so manh sub par reviews but this is nice, unique, and worthy of a try. I love the huge euro influence in this brew.
Have one....

Serving type: on-tap

11-30-2012 02:27:41 | More by DrinkSlurm
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Knapp85

Pennsylvania

3.23/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This poured out as a deep brown color with a very minimal head on top. The retention and lacing were gone before I took a first sip. The smell of the beer has some light fruity aromas with a touch of roasted malt and bread. The taste was yeasty, more bread a touch of roasted malt and some fresh grapes in the mix. The finish had a decent bitterness to it. The mouthfeel was a little on the thin side, not overly exciting. Overall this beer was nice too try but a little bit of a disappointment in my opinion. I feel it just lacks some qualities that this style of beer should have. Perhaps it would be better from a bottle.

Serving type: on-tap

11-24-2012 04:43:12 | More by Knapp85
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Furlinator

California

3.78/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle dated 2012

Pours opaque dark brown with 1/8 inch of khaki head that settles to a thin ring on top and leaves faint spotty lace.

Smell is somewhat subdued overall and is floral up front with faint dark cherry and bready malt on the finish.

Taste is of piney hops up front with grapefruit and a hint of honey on the back end.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low carbonation.

This one is hard to categorize. It has a strong hop presence initially with bold malt in the finish. Tart citrus notes and some honey sweetness round it off. A solid effort whatever style you choose to call it.

Serving type: bottle

02-13-2014 00:57:24 | More by Furlinator
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BierJager89

California

4.4/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Black with a mocha head.

S: Fruity/citric hop character dominates the nose with just a touch of smoke.

T: Fruity, orangey hops, but not bitter or harsh, with smoke in the finish that lingers in the mouth, commingling with the prior citric fruitiness.

M: Medium bodied and smoothish. Smooth for a saison.

O: Definitely worth a try if you can find it. I love the experimentation stillwater has done with their saisons. This collaboration is not unlike some of their other beers.

Serving type: bottle

01-18-2014 19:49:41 | More by BierJager89
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GarthDanielson

North Carolina

3.63/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a bottle into a shaker pint, the beer is a very dark, brown-to-black coloring with a frothy, bubbly, dense, low profile, light tan head. Aromas of tangy sweet, roasted notes, bitter coffee and hops characteristics, tart fruit notes, and subtle spicing. Flavors are tangy throughout, with cherry and berry sweetness. Some very subtle peat and smoke notes, with a hint of tangy hops building towards the tail end. Definitely leaning heavy on the sweet side, with the roast keeping it slightly in check. Light, crisp bodied, with a tangy sweet, fruity aftertaste. Effervescent, crisp finish. This beer is pretty interesting; unlike any I've had before.

Serving type: bottle

11-30-2013 23:07:34 | More by GarthDanielson
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Treyliff

West Virginia

2.95/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

A- pours black, but not quite opaque, khaki foamy and sudsy head that reduces to a small bubbly layer, leaving a little bit of lace

S- strange bouquet of aromas, starting with some toasted grainy malt with a little bit of toffee/caramel, dried dark fruit, blackberries, just a hint of smoke. Not really picking up any saison aromas, but there us an off puting metallic/sour aroma at the end

T- sweet caramel malt flavors are meshed with some astringent dark fruit/berry flavors, their are some faint yeasty saison flavors, but for the most part are masked by a sweet and fruity malt flavor. The smoke aspect is barely detectable any there's some metallic flavors on the finish

M- medium body with low carbonation, slightly foamy mouthfeel with a crisp finish

O- not really sure what they were going for here. This tastes nothing like a saison, the 'smoked' flavors are barely noticeable, and overall it's all over the place

Serving type: bottle

10-27-2013 18:16:51 | More by Treyliff
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brewdlyhooked13

Ohio

2.86/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - dark, no light getting through. Nice finger of light mocha head, lacy and sticky.

Aroma - mostly the dark malts, a whiff of something earthy/saison/funk-like but nothing clear.

Taste - so I'm looking mostly for balance among the black malts and/or smoke, and the saison. The malts are certainly charred, nearly ashen, but not particularly smoky. Mid-palate contains the first note of the saison. I think it's basically the yeast I'm picking up - a little tart and funky but any delicate flavors are lost in the heavy roast. I guess it does what it was intended to do, but it reminds me of a stout that has starting to turn with infection. Ends with the saison dryness and black char.

Mouthfeel - crisp, smooth, good firm body to amply support all the flavor going on.

Overall - not that enjoyable for me, but I can drink and appreciate the good balance to this one.

Serving type: bottle

10-23-2013 03:13:33 | More by brewdlyhooked13
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BMMillsy

Florida

3.29/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with a small head for the style. Smell is smoke, yeast funk, black currant, bit of spice, and some candy sweet smell. Medium mouthfeel and flat for a saison. Fruity flavor, spice, not a lot of smoke. A little funky with some oaky taste and a strange musty bitterness. Finishes dry. Pretty unique, but not blown away by this. Not a bad beer, but not one I would order again.

Serving type: bottle

10-17-2013 01:16:10 | More by BMMillsy
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Chaney

District of Columbia

2.94/5  rDev -16%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a Stone IRS glass.

A: Poured a dark, burnt brown, with only a few bubbles posing as a head.

S: Smelled like rotten, fermented fruit actually. Quite a bit of booze in there as well.

T: Still, those rotten esters really lingered which wasn't pleasant. I actually kinda dug the smokiness of this though.

M: Very low in carbonation and lacing overall. Okay here.

O: Never would have tagged this as a saison... more like Belgian Strong or something. Either way, it wasn't good.

Serving type: bottle

09-17-2013 21:59:21 | More by Chaney
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srhoadsy

Florida

3.1/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Served chilled into a fluted tulip.

Pours a nice sable brown with quarter inch tan, airy head that quickly recedes leaving moderate surface layer and lacing.

Aromas of that musty peppery funk common to the style with a hint of smoke.

Flavors, this is where it falls apart! The flavors follow through from the aromas but they compete with each other to much and nothing really shines through.

Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with a slightly sweet but crisp finish. Fair amount of carbonation and mild aftertaste.

Looks good, smells good, taste is a disappointment. A subpar offering from two otherwise excellent breweries.

Serving type: bottle

09-06-2013 22:10:27 | More by srhoadsy
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TruePerception

California

2.51/5  rDev -28.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

(Previous review, transferred from beer journal)

Collaboration

Stone / Evil Twin / Still Water "The Perfect Crime": black smoked saison, 6.8% ABV, Appearance: very deep dark red in the light; Smell: dark lager, licorice/coffee, light hop, BBQ charcoal; Taste/Mouthfeel: graphite, metallic/mineral, very bitter, coffee at the end, graphite taste sticks to tongue; okay

Serving type: bottle

09-01-2013 07:11:26 | More by TruePerception
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Sludgeman

District of Columbia

3.05/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

$4.99/12oz. Poured into a chalice. Bottle on 10/16/12.

Even if smokey beers are a turn-off for you (as they can be for me) don’t let this beer’s description drive you away. The smokiness is faint in all areas. Somewhat reminiscent of the Stone/Victory/DFH Saison Buff collaboration in both aroma and taste. Not a true saison though, so to what style do you grade, a Belgian Specialty?

A – Pours a black opaque with a half-finger of light brown/tan head, which quickly dissipates. Average lacing. Head easily recovered with a good swirl.

S – Standard farmyard yeasty aroma but with more of a wheat and even an adjunct component. Some faint peppery spiciness.

T – Smoke is faint, slight creaminess, bitter in the end with a bit of lemon in the finish.

MF – Can I say smokiness in the mouth feel as well, acrid, dry finish. Well carbonated.

Serving type: bottle

08-26-2013 01:31:33 | More by Sludgeman
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beertunes

Washington

2.45/5  rDev -30%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2

A "Black, Smoked Saison"? Uh, OK. Poured into straight pint glass. Poured a solid black color with almost an inch of medium brown head that had decent retention and light lacing.

The aroma blasted out as soon as the bottle was cracked open. A lot of smoke, some yeast and some roast were the dominant aspects. On the tongue all those things combined and clashed all across the palate. The things that Saisons so great are totally covered up by roast and an alcohol sharpness.

The body was thick and sticky, not Saison like at all. Drinkability was a bit rough, with the roast and alcohol being a less than pleasant combination. Overall, a perfect example of why you shouldn't do something just because you can. This beer is kind of a mess. I can't recommend it.

Serving type: bottle

07-07-2013 18:14:48 | More by beertunes
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socon67

New York

3.33/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Brown pour with a thin foam head. Some carbonation is noted.

S - Slight burnt toast smell of roasted malt. There is a little bit of dried fruit smell that gives a sugary smell. Overall my take was that it smelled like a hickory BBQ sauce.

T - Really not sure here. I didn't get anything remotely resembling saison qualities. There was more of a malt presence and dry hop finish than what I expected. Some fig or raisin flavors were noted.

M - Feels relatively light and is easy to dink. Actually leaves a bit of a yeasty funk in the finish. Really a complex and quite odd beer.

O - A bit all over the place and I really don't know what the right classification for this would be. Many of the Stone collabs are out of the box concepts, but in this case I don't think I'd be looking to try this again.

Serving type: bottle

07-05-2013 01:48:15 | More by socon67
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taylor714914

Pennsylvania

3.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a Samuel Smith glass. Thin, dissipating head with minimal lacing. Brownish black in color, almost like a porter.

Not much going on in the smell, some sweet dark fruits, citrus hops. There is a bit of oak, though I don't know if this beer is wood aged.

Taste is decent, but first perception is this doesn't dry out and finish dry enough. Caramel malts are the initial taste with some citrus hops and a bit of resinous bitterness.

Mouthfeel is too thick and sugary. Beer definitely needed more attenuation.

Overall, I think this missed the mark for the Saison style.

Serving type: bottle

07-03-2013 23:58:39 | More by taylor714914
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mfnmbvp

Illinois

3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle, 2012 vintage. Not exactly sure of the bottled on date, but my local beer store has been holding down a bunch of these for a while, so I thought it was time to try it out. Got a single bottle for $3.99. My third review of a collaboration beer on BeerAdvocate.

Poured into a Firestone Walker pint glass.

A - Pours a near opaque mahogany brown color that shows ruby hues when held under the light. One finger of thin khaki colored head fades quickly to some froth. Some thin cavernous looking lacing.

S - Smell is light and subdued: some faint bubblegum Belgian malt & yeast smell, some earthiness, light smoke & wood smells buried in there also. The smoke & the malts blend nicely together. The malty smells become more prominent as it warms.

T - Taste is intriguing, yet subdued like the smell. Bubblegum malts, some dark roasty notes, coffee beans, faint smoke & wood characteristics, Belgian yeast, but none of these really push themselves to the foreground, they are all equally in balance with one another. Aftertaste is crisp and of light fruit sugars. Green apple comes to mind.

M - Feel is crisp, with nice carbonation, and some nice fruity apple skin sweetness lingering in the finish. Finishes very dry. Medium-full bodied.

Overall, it was about what I expected, if not a little disappointing. A drinkable beer, but not something I would try again. It has probably matured & tamed a bit since it was fresh, but I am still glad to have tried a bottle. An interesting beer, but I was somehow expecting more from this. I've never had anything from Stillwater before, so I will be on the lookout for more from them. An average beer, but worth trying once.

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone "The Perfect Crime" ---3.5/5

Serving type: bottle

06-30-2013 18:35:11 | More by mfnmbvp
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Darkmagus82

Virginia

3.95/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a very deep brown, bordering on black, color with a two finger cream colored head. The head is rather fluffy with it fading relatively quickly and it leaving behind a decent level of lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is a rather interesting blend of smells. There is a rather stronger aroma of char, roasted malt, and some smoke with notes of a yeasty and bready smell as well. Mixed with these aromas are some others of citrus and some spice as well as lots of funk composed of some hay and grassy smells mixed within.

Taste – The taste begins with a roasted malt flavor with hints of darker fruits mixed within. There is a sourness upfront that is accompanied by a lighter yeasty and grassy flavor. The sourness increases with a funkiness developing as the taste moves on more toward the end. A bit of a citrus hop as well as some flavors of pine, smoke and char all come to the tongue at the end, leaving a rather sour and tart toasted flavor on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is rather light in its creaminess and thickness with a carbonation level that is on the higher side and consists of lots of little carbonation bubbles. These lighter characteristics are great for all the yeast and citrus saison flavors of the brew, but not the best for the wood, roast and smoke flavors in my opinion. It think this is one thought that is hard to compromise between the differing flavors.

Overall – This was an interesting and actually quite enjoyable brew. The mix of darker roasted and char flavors with that of yeast, sourness and funk combined to produce a rather tasty combination. This is certainly one to try if you can find it.

Serving type: bottle

06-30-2013 10:48:28 | More by Darkmagus82
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FLima

Brazil

4.28/5  rDev +22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Collaboration between Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone.
Black color, ruby when put through the light, with a thin head with short retention.
Light aroma of roasted and smoked malts, with notes of caramels and some sourness.
Very interesting flavor of sweet smoked malts with a refreshing pine note, heavy on condiments and some nice funkyness from Breta lyke small devils, giving a special character to it. Dry, bitter and burnt long lasting aftertaste.
Medium body with perfect carbonation and a spicy feeling.
That was a very original and interesting beer, mixing several different styles that ramdomly comes out and disappears. Highly recommendable.

Serving type: bottle

06-21-2013 16:34:50 | More by FLima
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schwemjw

Ohio

3.54/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

a: a dark brown, bordering on black. a white swirling head that thinned to a lacing

s: interesting. alot of sweet yeast with funky dark fruit. a touch of rusted malt with a little smoke on the end

t: a touch of roast. some big dark fruit such as fug and raisen. I get some burnt toast with fig jam. smoke on the end with a nice hop bittering.

m: Mouthfeel Is awesome. smooth and easy drinking with low carbonation.

o: this is a very sessionable saison. I could drink a ton of this /84

Serving type: bottle

06-04-2013 07:18:03 | More by schwemjw
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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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