Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
80
good

638 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 638
Reviews: 184
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14%
Wants: 7
Gots: 48 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.23/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours an almost opaque super dark brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Thick rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, herbs, adhesive bandages, and some smoked wood aromas. Taste is slightly sour with some dark roasted malt, char, and smoke flavors. There is a medium amount of roasty bitterness and a tart twang with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty average beer with some odd aromas and flavors that don't meld together very well. Unfortunately, this will go down as another miss in the Stone collaboration series in my book.

Photo of metter98
3.83/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Mugs Alehouse, Brooklyn, NY

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a finger high off white head that died down, leaving lacing on the surface and a coating of bubbles down the sides of the glass.
S: There are aromas of Belgian yeast and dark roasted malts in the nose. Some notes of smoke become evident as the beer warms up.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has a little less flavors of roasted malts but added flavors of smoke. There are also some hints of oak.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation. The finish is dry and a little chalky.
O: This is a nice black saison that is easy to drink and has some nice roasted flavors; the smoke definitely makes this beer unique. It is very flavorful given its light body.

Photo of brentk56
3.49/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours pitch black with a moderate head that leaves a lot of stringy lacing behind

Smell: Vaguely woodsy and cakey; really odd for what is in the beer

Taste: The malt flavor is very unusual here - the closest I can get is that it tastes a bit like chocolate mole sauce, with vague hints of spice, chocolate and charred chipotle peppers; rather chalky and woodsy, after the swallow, with just a bit of smoke lingering into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: I seem to like this beer better than others who have reviewed it, though it lacks flavor development; perhaps it being so tough to figure out is why they named it "The Perfect Crime"

Photo of BEERchitect
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

When subscribing to saisons, the blueprint reads with dry grainy sweetness, pepper, fruit and high effervescence. Any complement of dark grain should accent the dryness with an almost-roast character. But boy-howdy- that notion is rammed home in the perfect crime.

With nearly porter-like proportions, the ale pours a dark, bark-brown color with a yeasty haze that refutes light. Where its body appears dense, the billow of foam and the streams of bubbles suggest lightness. Capped by a soft sandy head, the froth is spritzy and airy and reduces quickly but regenerates with a simple swirl of the glass. Light speckled lace decorates the glass in the wake.

Aromas are all about wood as the balance of saisons are ignored and the scent of char and perfume are preferred. Spicy coriander, paradise seed, star anise and a plethora of exotic botanicals fuse with soft char for a fragrant yet powerful "holiday" scent.

The taste of campfire char, burnt embers, and freshly sawn oak give bold first impressions, and then the spicy taste of pepper, burnt toast, bitter orange peel, white pepper, and coriander are sharp and deliver a pang of sharpness to the palate. Spices turn smoky and medicine-like in finish, and close with a touch of ash.

Incredibly dry, roasty, and tannin, there's absolutely no sweetness to the beer. It's bone dry texture makes the flavors evaporate on the palate and reveals a lot of harsh wood, char, ash, and smoke notes that deserve any semblance of balance. The beer finishes before it begins with only a memory of taste even in its early palate. Spicy, warm, and dry throughout, the beer oddly compelling in mouthfeel but seems harsh nevertheless.

I rather appreciate the dry malt flavor and body, but the roasted character is overbearing and dictates the balance in rather bullying fashion. There's very little resemblance of saison as the beer would be much more identifiable with an off-balanced robust porter instead.

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.9/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

$3.49 a single is a fair price for this, although i think a saison is too delicate of a style (when done properly) to handle much smoke. and while this one didnt obliterate it, i like the yeast, not the malt, to be the star of my saison. this isnt offensive though. it pours a pretty thick black color, darker than any saison ive come across. fluffy off white head lasts forever. the nose is quite spicy, combined with the smoky malt it feels like fall to me. nice burn malt profile just a litte too big for the yeast though. quite drinkable, sturdy abv, and some nice peppery funk on the back end before the charcoal hits. a good fall seasonal type beer for sure, but not one ill buy again. its just a style that i think doesnt really work, altough this would be textbook if it did. like nothing else, a more than passable beer.

Photo of Knapp85
3.2/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This poured out as a deep brown color with a very minimal head on top. The retention and lacing were gone before I took a first sip. The smell of the beer has some light fruity aromas with a touch of roasted malt and bread. The taste was yeasty, more bread a touch of roasted malt and some fresh grapes in the mix. The finish had a decent bitterness to it. The mouthfeel was a little on the thin side, not overly exciting. Overall this beer was nice too try but a little bit of a disappointment in my opinion. I feel it just lacks some qualities that this style of beer should have. Perhaps it would be better from a bottle.

Photo of oberon
3.26/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Poured into a tulip glass jet black with a nice looking large fluffy tannish colored head that stuck like glue leaving multiple globs of lace as it settled slowly.Aromas were dry and very earthy...almost dirty,light spiced phenols and mild smoke rounded out the nose.The palate was dry as well with earthy notes and phenols mainly,the earthiness was to big for my lining,the smoke comes into play more in the aftertaste.Not overly impressed with this offering sad to say.

Photo of TMoney2591
3.35/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Served in a Lagunitas mason jar.

Ah, the perfect crime. I remember it well... ...Wait! No, forget I said anything! Anyway, this stuff pours a deep garnet-brown topped by a finger of dusty tan foam. The nose comprises light hickory smoke, light soy sauce, mild Belgian yeast, light ruby red grapefruit peeking out from the background, and a few pinches of black pepper. The taste brings in more of the same, with the now-even-lighter smoke duking it out with the yeasty spices and the rindy grapefruit, culminating in a slightly muddled and definitely noisy flavor-din. It almost works, but ultimately falls quite short. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, though smoked beers are usually my bag, this one just didn't do it for me. The flavors never meshed well at all, and the smoke seems almost like an afterthought in the "Oops, this black saison isn't quite there, so let's add some smoke to try to cover things up" kind of way.

Photo of oline73
2.3/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured from the bottle into a goblet.

Appearance: The beer pours a dark brown with some light coming through at the edges. There is a half finger of light tan head that goes away quickly.

Smell: Sweeter than expected with some fruity notes that remind me a bit of cherries. I'm getting some mild roast and a faint hint of herbs.

Taste: I'm almost at a loss for words. This beer was a bad idea. There is a bitterness in the finish that just crushes anything else that might be going on. There is a fruity cherry note that is pleasant enough. Lots of roast along with a herbal saison component. The finish is full of roast and has a lot of hop bitterness. Just a mess.

Mouthfeel: The body is medium with a lot of tingly carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I really didn't like this one. I'm all for experimenting, but this one was an experiment gone wrong.

Photo of jlindros
3.52/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Pours a lighter fizzy but brownish colored head covering, nice lacing though, super dark cola brown color faintest hint of mahogany light sneaking through.

Nose light smoked malt, like bbq smoke but nothing huge in that department, a light grainy straw malt, hint of earthy saison, and a bit of caramel and darker malt. Also a faint leafy hop.

Taste starts with a light farmhouse but yeasty kinda flavor, with grainy hay malts. Then a blend of a weird citrus almost lime lemon like with a gale or other leafy spice, and some light bitter roasty malt and darker caramel malt. Hops bring a faint mint and leafy vegetal thing with some bitterness. Smoke is light and more like liquid smoke than actual smoked malts, almost fake tasting, it's kinda weird. Finish is more bitter, sticky malt residue, light smoke, light saison and leafy herbal spices lingering.

Mouth is med bodied, plenty of carb.

Overall didn't really do it for me, too many things going on that just don't play well.

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.11/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This. Is gross. Really. What the hell is this? When I first took a sniff of this, I wondered what precisely it was reminding me of. I can't pinpont it, but it's somewhere in the ballpark of turpentine. The beer tastes saison-esqe. I can certainly grab the basic elements of what I should be tasting. But the smoked tones with this odd yeast thing going on just do not work at all. As it warms a bit, it gets more tolerable. But there is just something here that is lacking. And that's putting it nicely. For the price, this beer should be at least good. Considering the three breweries that are involved, it should really be well above average.

Photo of mactrail
2.99/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Dark mahogany color in the Saxo tall tulip with a modest foam. Average carbonation. Very thin body but a decent sudsiness. I would call this a black Cascadian IPA, but then it is flushed with a whole lot of the Belgian dry yeastiness. A hint of apples and burnt oatmeal.

This stuff is quite sharp and bitter. Not hardly like a Saison, even stretching the style, but I'll rate it as such. Seems like the collaboration yields Stillwater's excess of the dry yeast flavors, along with Stone's prediliction for turning everything into an IPA, plus Evil Twin's murky silliness. Seems like a perfect crime to me.

Sourish aftertaste is even less appealing after all the harsh bitterness. And then it dries out from there and leaves a film on the teeth and the sensation of cardboard. From the 12 oz bottle bought at Grapevine Liquors in Denver.

Photo of Jason
3.18/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz brown bottle with a freshness date.

LOOK: Complete darkness, tight tiny bubble lacing, good stickage

SMELL: Chalky, gummy, carob, dried grass, subtle smoke, dried dark fruit, mild esters, slightly medicinal, spicy

TASTE: Smooth, roasty, bity yeast character, a little creamy, molasses taffy, medicinal herbs, balanced hoppiness, vague smoke, hint of black berries, cocoa nibs, mildly warming alcohol

Was hoping for a bit more crispness or snap, smoke is pretty hard to find and so is the "Saison" traits ... somewhat Belgian-y and that is about it. Missing the point of this beer, at the bottom of all of the Stone collab brews. Nothing bad, just does nothing for me.

Photo of Rifugium
1.82/5  rDev -48%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

First had: firkin at Capone's, Norristown, PA

Honestly, I would not have thought this was a saison if I didn't look it up. I can identify styles with the best of them, but at the time, I couldn't really tell what this one was, and kind of just passed it off as a weak porter.

Dark brown pour, opaque, or at least so it seemed in the light of the bar, a few stray bubbles on top, but otherwise no head. This beer had been sitting for a while, because it wasn't one degree below room temperature. I know that's the point of a cask, but it wasn't working in this case. I tried and tried to get an aroma from this, to the point of nearly dipping my schnoz in the beer, but it just wasn't happening. Nothing! I've had beers with bad aromas, weak aromas, muted aromas, but I really got zero in the nose with this. Taste-wise, I believe I literally said "bleh" when I sipped it. Bland dark malts, soy sauce, burnt cardboard, with a blast of earthy hops in the finish. And all this at puke warm temperature with little to no carbonation...it just didn't work. Light-medium body, and really just unpalatable. Three good breweries making one bad beer. I guess the "perfect crime" was putting this on the market.

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.59/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled on 10/26/12, a trifecta of great brewers came together with one being pretty much the master of the American Saison right now...all three have the collaborative fortitude to do a black beer together considering they all make some of the best dark beers available in craft brewing today. This one pours with a black body jet black with a light fine bubbled creamy tan head, leaves fine lacing down the sides of my tulip shaped chalice. Dry hopping comes thru in terms of earthy pine and mild citrus peels with a dark roasted malts surrounding the hop accents, spicy Belgian yeast gives why to alcoholic phenols and black peppercorns. A pleasant caramel drizzled toast brings out a nuttiness in there as well, all in all chalk full of malt and hops. Flavors collide with the bittering hops here, dark roasted malt bitterness potentiates the pine earthy resinous hops riding the waves of carbonation in my first few sips...as the palate adjusts it's still satisfies with a slightly warming effect of the booze. The dry hopping probably makes and breaks this beer, the strong lingering bitterness really Americanizes this black saison into the hybrid known as the "Perfect Crime" The mouthfeel also welcomes the light smoked meat aspect in the back of the nares, not really dominant against the big hops and dark malts utilized but well played nonetheless. Dry hints of cherry tartness and other vine ripened fruit additions start to explode as the beer warms a bit, complex ale in 12 ounces, I'm guessing this beer keeps getting better considering it's 4/25/13.

Photo of kojevergas
2.32/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Not a big Stone fan, but I like Evil Twin and the price was right so I picked this one up. Most of these collaborations have been mundane; I don't know why I keep buying them. A Smoked Saison sounds pretty foul as well. But hey, every beer gets a chance. 12 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.

Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a one finger khaki-tan colour head of good cream and thickness, and pretty decent retention (~2 minutes). Colour is a solid nontransparent opaque black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Heavy rauchbier-esque smoke and bacon notes, with some acrid dark malts alongside cream. Not at all appealing. A mild strength aroma. I'm not looking forward to this.

T: Dark malt foundation with murky smoky lightly bacon-y notes on the climax. No real cream. Dreadfully simple. A bit too bitter. I get no brett notes or anything remotely saison-esque. Earthy but not fruity. Imbalanced and bland. Who knew such an experimental brew could be so non-committal? Drinks like a crappy rauchbier. Underwhelming.

Mf: Too dry and coarse in the late second and third acts. Unmotivated and unfocused. This is a mess. Smooth and wet up front, but also a bit sharp from overcarbonation. Thickness is okay. Presence on the palate is all over the place.

Dr: I'm all for experimentation, but they shouldn't have even brought this to the market. This is a mess of an effort and doesn't warrant purchase. Only the names of the breweries involved will sell this beer. If you want a nice brett-laden saison (even with hints of smoke, if for some reason that sounds like a good idea), look elsewhere. This reminds me of novice homebrewing.

D+

Photo of smcolw
3.51/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Impressive lumpy beige head that leaves plenty of chunky lace on the glass. The liquid is deep brown where light passes through the center.

Mildly earthy aromas. The rest of the smell reminds me of a Brown Ale. Light white-pepper hop at the end. Some Saison aroma after these initial smells settle.

First impression is the thinness of the body. Nearly no flavor while the beer is on the tongue. Everything comes from the swallow, which is complex combination of pepper, astringent darker malt and a bit of alcohol. Relatively short aftertaste. High carbonation level.

Photo of superspak
3.8/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 10/26/2012. Pours fairly pitch black color with a 1-2 finger dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings on the glass. Aromas of raisin, pear, apple, toast, cocoa, roasted malt, pepper, clove, light smoke, and earthy yeast spiciness. Very nice and unique aromas with good balance and complexity of malt, fruity, and spicy notes. Taste of apple, pear, banana, raisin, cocoa, roasted malt, light char, toast, pepper, clove, smoke, anise, and earthy yeast spiciness. Lingering notes of light and dark fruit, cocoa, roasted malt, char, toast, clove, pepper, smoke, anise, and earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Nice balance and complexity of fruity, malty, and spicy flavors; with a good sweetness/spiciness balance; and minimal cloying flavors present after the finish. Quite intense at first with the flavors, but it mellows out as you go. Medium carbonation and body; with a fairly creamy, chalky, and lightly crisp mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is very well hidden with hardly any warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a very good black saison. Good balance and complexity of unique flavors; and very smooth to sip on. A nicely enjoyable offering.

Photo of chinchill
3.31/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

At 2014 Most Arrogant Bar Bash (Barleys in Greenvillle,SC)

Pours black and opaque, with a very good head.

Flavor: very floral, a bit 'wild', with Belgian yeast and light and medium roast malts. Medium+ strength. A bit sweet up front; clightly funky and slightly bitter aftertaste.

O: interesting and moderately complex but not my cup of tea.

Photo of tdm168
3.76/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A - black with a half of an inch of soft, foamy, brownish head that has decent retention

S - spicy with notes from Belgian yeast which are mostly peppery, some dark malts

T - some roasted malts, chocolate, peppery, spicy, faint dark fruit, some Belgian yeast, some herbal notes, mildly bitter finish

M - medium bodied, crisp, a tad overcarbonated

This is a decent beer. The flavor is centered around the spicy notes imparted by the yeast. The overall flavor is good but the crispness of the carbonation interferes with the palate making it hard to really enjoy all of the subtleties. This was nice to try once, but this isn't a beer I'll be buying again.

Photo of Halcyondays
3.58/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle,

A: Pours an ultra deep red to black, opaque, with a medium slightly off-white head. Very solid head retention, some sticky lace.

S: Smoke, dark malt, with a hint of soy sauce.

T: Dark chocolate and plum upfront, but then really gets into the saison aspect. While there's an undercurrent of smoke throughout, the back end of this beer is all saison. Tons of peppery spice, leather, almost a note of bee pollen. It's lacking that delicious factor, but it is quite an interesting, complex beer.

M: Drying finish, medium-bodied overall. Chalky, peppery long aftertaste with some finishing hops.

O: A strange beer to say the least, really a combo of an ABA and a saison with a splash of rauchbier thrown in there. Only $2.99 a bottle, so this is a fun beer to expand your palate, but really at the end of the day, it's nothing mind-blowing, enjoyable though.

Photo of Billolick
3.58/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle, purchased at DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY

Pours near black, light mocha head stays and leaves some low sheeting and decent looking fine lacing.

Nose is full of dark malts, lite smoke, and some minty spice.

More dark malt, more smoke and I get some subtle pepper, mint, and then hoppy dryness to finish things out. Unusual, off beat, a style bender. Decent fall/winter type of brew. Not my favorite, but worth a try.

Photo of yourefragile
2.69/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle. Received as an extra.

Pours a clear, dark roast cola brown with a large frothy bubbly tan head that has long lasting retention and thick webs of lace. Yeast, clove, ash, char, banana and wet gravel on the nose. Medium thin body, soft carbonation, and a finish like a glass of cigarettes. Front of palate rides a wave of smoke, ashtray, char and roast throughout, like a bad porter. Underneath that mess and on the back end a yeasty and clove rich saison struggles to emerge. Not the drainpour mess that I expected; this seemed like a weak idea to me (to my own taste) conceptually, and the execution was like two different styles mixing like oil and water.

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.2/5  rDev +20%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A collaborative effort from all the good folks at Stone/Stillwater/Evil Twin
After reviewing I realized this was my 1800th review, cheers!

LOOK: Pours a deep brown with a light off white foam that leaves good lace. Has good staying power, and was served in a chalice.

SMELL: Bread, toast, chocolate, grass and slightly funky Belgian yeast.

TASTE: Moderately tart in a Belgian fashion upfront giving way to notes of dry cocoa, coffee, herbs and hops. Mild peppery spiciness paired with a presence of molasses. Dry hopped flavor comes through well.

FEEL: Really nice, smooth and the carbonation is strong and slightly drying, right where it needs to be. Almost creamy, and spicy.

OVERALL: To hell with judging this beer to any one style, it's a conundrum. A very good one at that. But, for being a smoked Saison, the smoke is not very strong. It had more of a pleasant roasted malt flavor.

Photo of Mebuzzard
4.03/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A smoked, hoppy saison, eh? Ok, I'll give it a go.

Pours dark brown/reddish. Perhaps black. Off brown foamy head, nice lacing.

Spicy aroma of Belgian yeast, some roasted malt and floral hops. Exactly what to expect. Subtle smoke and caramel.

Flavor is like a saison with smoke and roasted malt. Nothing complicated, I guess, which makes it taste pretty good. The yeast lifts the smoke/roast and dances around. Hops provide a bit of bright floral and slick bite. Finishes dry with some herbal spice.
Feels good, too. Perhaps a tad more carbonation would up the refreshing factor a bit, but this isn't a summer saison. It's quite good

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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