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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
80
good

612 Ratings
THE BROS
73
okay

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Ratings: 612
Reviews: 182
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14.29%
Wants: 7
Gots: 48 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012)
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rangerred

Tennessee

3.73/5  rDev +6.6%

12oz bottle into a pint glas

Pours pitch black with a one finger tan head. Really good rocky head retention and awesome lacing on the sides of the glass.

Aroma has the trademark Belgian yeastyness that I expect from a Saison but also a nice curveball of roasted malt with a hint of smoke. The roast and smoke are subtle but enough is there to let you know that this is not your average Saison.

This uniqueness carries over into the flavor where once again, there is a little something extra happening. Belgian yeast up front with the typical fruity flavors common in this style but there are subtle hints of caramel and burnt toast. I also pick up coffee and dark chocolate along with very faint smoke. Quite nice but then comes the mouthfeel. The mouthfeel is is full and slick with a sticky finish. Now I wonder if this is really a Saison. Where is the light crisp mouthfeel and bone dry finish? This really ruins the whole experience.

Overall, a great idea but it just doesn't work. I wonder if all the specialty malts made bone dry attenuation simply impossible? I think this might be the case but if so, then why even attempt a "smoked saison"? Nonetheless an interesting take on a classic style and worth picking up if you come across it.

12-29-2012 03:53:10 | More by rangerred
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mfnmbvp

Illinois

3.5/5  rDev 0%

12 oz. bottle, 2012 vintage. Not exactly sure of the bottled on date, but my local beer store has been holding down a bunch of these for a while, so I thought it was time to try it out. Got a single bottle for $3.99. My third review of a collaboration beer on BeerAdvocate.

Poured into a Firestone Walker pint glass.

A - Pours a near opaque mahogany brown color that shows ruby hues when held under the light. One finger of thin khaki colored head fades quickly to some froth. Some thin cavernous looking lacing.

S - Smell is light and subdued: some faint bubblegum Belgian malt & yeast smell, some earthiness, light smoke & wood smells buried in there also. The smoke & the malts blend nicely together. The malty smells become more prominent as it warms.

T - Taste is intriguing, yet subdued like the smell. Bubblegum malts, some dark roasty notes, coffee beans, faint smoke & wood characteristics, Belgian yeast, but none of these really push themselves to the foreground, they are all equally in balance with one another. Aftertaste is crisp and of light fruit sugars. Green apple comes to mind.

M - Feel is crisp, with nice carbonation, and some nice fruity apple skin sweetness lingering in the finish. Finishes very dry. Medium-full bodied.

Overall, it was about what I expected, if not a little disappointing. A drinkable beer, but not something I would try again. It has probably matured & tamed a bit since it was fresh, but I am still glad to have tried a bottle. An interesting beer, but I was somehow expecting more from this. I've never had anything from Stillwater before, so I will be on the lookout for more from them. An average beer, but worth trying once.

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone "The Perfect Crime" ---3.5/5

06-30-2013 18:35:11 | More by mfnmbvp
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pkalix

California

4.01/5  rDev +14.6%

very dark, cant see through it; nice creamy tan head on top which diminsihes to nothing in the time it takes to urinate.
smells... like hops foremost, but a little something malty too....
dang, anything stone is hops, aint it? even a stinking saisson... tastes like al the rest. why does everyone think their beer is so good?
okay, so overall, it's supposed to be a creation among breweries to be a saisson but it tastes like a mellowed ipa. just my opinion. i get the smoked malts, but it just seems that we have to have an overpowering amount of hop to be called stone. am i wrong? my experience of a saisson is a taste of fields. grass, maybe, but not pine. malts, to be certain, but not roasted to the point of being the only way you can taste them...
but it looks nice in the glass . . . .

01-12-2013 02:22:44 | More by pkalix
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sinstaineddemon

Connecticut

3.6/5  rDev +2.9%

A - this is a balck smoked saison, and so far it holds true, it is black. A thin transparent blackm, as opposed to a thick viscous stout black, pours with a medium tan head and plenty of carbonation sticking to the glass

S - the aroma is surprisingly lacking, some smoked peat, earthy notes, no distinct hop profile, no spicy saison tones, just smoke and malts

T - my how things change in the taste of this beer, one of the biggest discrepancies between nose and palate that I can remember in a beer. Big spicy funky saison notes float above a great malt/hop balanced profile. Each individual element is distinguishable and of high quality.

M&D&O - among the best layered beers I have tried, a fantastic job of creating such differing and tasty elements at every level. a tasty brew!

12-16-2012 18:31:49 | More by sinstaineddemon
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AdamBear

Pennsylvania

3.78/5  rDev +8%

A-black with a nice stable tan head

S-dark belgian spices, a certain mustiness, cooked vegetables. some spicy peppers. a lot going on here. medium strength. very odd.

T-comes in with a spicy and creamy taste of mellow belgian grains and cooked peppers. all very mild. the after-taste comes in with a deep smokey cocoa flavor. its not as complex as the nose lets on. overall a good flavor though.

M-chalky medium carbonation with a semi-dry finish

O-this is no saison, it doesn't even taste like the other dark saisons i've tried. it really tastes like an odd stout, more than anything else. its really just okay, whatever it is. i wouldn't go out of my way to get this again, or get it for anyone else.

11-14-2012 00:38:28 | More by AdamBear
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ryan1788a5

Massachusetts

3.35/5  rDev -4.3%

12oz bottle poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours a deep black color with a creamy beige head. The head initially stands at an inch an a half in height, but settles shortly into a half inch cap. Lacing is thin and web-like.

S: Spicy and perfumey Belgian yeast. Cinnamon, pepper, subtle hints of clove. Bread crust, black cocoa powder, charcoal and soot. Very slight whiff of smoked malts.

T: Soot and charcoal malt tastes are cut by a strong hit of clove. Pepper and spicy Belgian yeast tastes are quickly followed by a touch of acrid smoked malts. Light fruitiness. Slight oily hop presence in the background. Finishes with clove, smoke, and fleeting oily hops.

M: On the lighter side of medium bodied. Airy, fluffy, and creamy in the mouth. Moderate carbonation.

O: The combination of flavors at play just don't work. Smoked malts and Belgian yeast don't really seem to jive. The phenol tastes are sharp and pronounced too, and it starts to wear on the palate.

11-28-2012 04:42:11 | More by ryan1788a5
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Paccamacca

California

3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

06-02-2013 03:47:17 | More by Paccamacca
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BigTrubble

North Carolina

3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

01-31-2013 22:05:22 | More by BigTrubble
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Bilco

Massachusetts

3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

12-08-2012 10:39:42 | More by Bilco
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kvgomps

Massachusetts

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%

01-22-2014 02:48:27 | More by kvgomps
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Bouleboubier

Pennsylvania

4.21/5  rDev +20.3%

(bottle from 2012 - stored in a room temp environment, out of light - poured into a balloon)

A: somewhat impenetrably dark brown liquid, rather clear pouring from the bottle... tall tan-colored foam, rather compact for the most part, notable portion of islands of larger bubbles - possible sediment corruption... little lacing

S: toffee, touch of coffee grounds, and a rather pungent piney-leafy greenness... mildly smoky semi-dark cocoa, hints of black pepper and licorice perhaps... smells very much like a hoppy west coast stout - too much dark malt presence to be mistaken for a "saison", though it's nuance is there

T: a lot of the complex spiciness you'd expect from a Dupont, up front, and surprisingly matched/balanced against the bold, rich, smooth, decidedly Baltic porter malt flavors... unmistakably Belgian yeast phenolic character... wisp of smoke and soapy-floral in the aftertaste... rather soft yet supple bitterness reminiscent of a mix of orange-peel and dark chocolate

M: smooth and fullish like an Imperial Stout, coating the palate on pass-by with a coffee and creme type of texture... finishes quiet and dry, mellow warmth, if any... residual dark sugar and hop resins stick behind

O: don't know what this was like relatively fresh, but it's not too shabby in its current state... perhaps it's mellowed a bit on the spiciness, who knows?... still has a lot of flavor to offer, might just develop even more with age

05-09-2014 21:43:20 | More by Bouleboubier
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captainbearcat

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +21.4%

12-31-2012 23:41:59 | More by captainbearcat
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EyePeeAyBryan

Arizona

3.5/5  rDev 0%

02-03-2013 18:30:02 | More by EyePeeAyBryan
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TexIndy

Texas

3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a pint glass. No dating info but it's new release so it's fresh. It poured black with ruby edges. It had a good sized head that settled into a thick collar and covering film. Great lacing with lots sticking.

The aroma was interesting. The saison elements were pretty hidden with the dark malts and smoke leading the way. Can't pinpoint it exactly but something about it just didn't hit me right. Not bad but not good either. The taste was again more dark malts and smoke than saison which isn't a knock since it's a smoked saison. But I really couldn't find any saison elements in it so if you'd told me smoked {insert style here} then I wouldn't have argued with you. Medium mouthfeel with good carbonation and smoky aftertaste.

Overall, an interesting sounding beer and while I love smoked beers and saisons this one just misses the mark for me. Avail here in TX. Rotation: glad I tried it but one is enough.

01-11-2013 00:38:24 | More by TexIndy
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BucannonXC5

California

3.63/5  rDev +3.7%

Type: Draft
Glass: Tulip
From: Stone Brewing Company
Price: $6
BOD: N/A

Black with a finger (when I got it) of tan head. Good lacing - foamy and milky. Good retention.

Smelled toffee, caramel, chocolate, molasses and light dark sour fruit.

Tasted sour fruit, grape, kiwi, plum, chocolate and toffee with a slightly bitter finish.

Medium body. Oily texture. Fizzy (high) carbonation. Astringent finish.

I was a bit disappointed overall. Lots of flavors but nothing that really stood out.

12-09-2012 10:25:21 | More by BucannonXC5
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CEDAMA

California

5/5  rDev +42.9%

11-17-2012 15:28:58 | More by CEDAMA
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bigbluebeerguy

Kentucky

2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

06-29-2014 18:36:45 | More by bigbluebeerguy
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Drucifer

Illinois

3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

05-22-2013 03:43:25 | More by Drucifer
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Beejay

Virginia

3/5  rDev -14.3%

12-30-2012 17:41:46 | More by Beejay
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ralphw56

Nevada

4/5  rDev +14.3%

12-18-2012 02:04:01 | More by ralphw56
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mportnoy

Pennsylvania

3.5/5  rDev 0%

06-27-2013 05:23:50 | More by mportnoy
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Eriktheipaman

California

3.5/5  rDev 0%

01-13-2013 02:18:48 | More by Eriktheipaman
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shehateme

Massachusetts

3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

01-26-2013 02:00:39 | More by shehateme
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stampfler07

Colorado

4/5  rDev +14.3%

11-02-2013 00:18:48 | More by stampfler07
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Jamison85

Indiana

4.25/5  rDev +21.4%

03-23-2013 23:37:30 | More by Jamison85
Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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