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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
80
good

632 Ratings
THE BROS
73
okay

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Ratings: 632
Reviews: 184
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14.29%
Wants: 7
Gots: 51 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of EgadBananas
4.01/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours is a nearly black color, with a dark tan head. Had decent retention, and left a nice trail of foamy lacing down the side.

The aroma comprised of pepper, some herbal notes, yeast eaters, grass, and mild backing smoky char note. The smoke was subtle, not over done and lender a nice uniqueness to the aroma.

The more I sipped it the more I enjoyed it. It started a bit more smoky and meaty than the aroma entailed. Then moved to a white pepper and spice note, quaffs of yeast esters, with a smoky, somewhat bitter and herbal finishing note.

The feel was good, was light in body, but was a litter undercarbonated and didn't have that crispness that I enjoy with a good refreshing Saison. Still, it was nice overall.

I love smoked beers and Saison, so I had to try this...and I like it. It's a well executed mashing of of the two, not over done, but kept within the Saison realm. I can however see how this could rub some the wrong way so, if you're open enough to it, keep an open mind.

Photo of stephenjmoore
3.87/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Black body with no signs of brown, or light coming through. Sticky and foamy tan head that hangs around for awhile.

S- Spicy yeast aroma, dark roasted malts, smoked malt.

T- Almost tastes like a combination between a smoked porter and a dark saison. Smoke and dark roasted flavors come through a lot at the beginning, with the middle and finish offering spicy yeast flavors typical of a traditional saison. The combination works pretty well together.

M- High carbonation level with a smoother mouthfeel probably due to the darker malts. Overall pretty drinkable.

O- Definitely pushes the boundaries of a saison, but works pretty well. Worth a try.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.3/5  rDev +22.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a jet black opaque body with a thin light tan film of head that is supported by bubbles that race out of the abyss and stick to the bottom of the head.

S- The roasted black malt is very mellow with a cold smoke note in the finish. There is a nice saison yeast ester aroma that turns a bit to new sneaker aroma as it opens, but the aroma always stays light.

T- The nice saison yeast character takes on some dry bubble gum qualities followed by a smooth black malt mellow finish. There is a club soda and cold smoke note to the after taste. As the beer opens some lemon tartness grows quite a bit in the finish. It could be hops but not really distinct, but very pleasant.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat

O- This has all the potential for a train wreck but I would say it truly is the perfect storm. All the flavors come through but they are in just the right balance that it doesn’t get ugly. Each sip made me want another sip just out of pure wonderment. The beer is light and bright even though it has some black malt and smoke flavors. Is this the holotype of a Black Saison?

Photo of hornsup
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of champ103
3.14/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

On tap at Cottonwood in Houston, TX

A: Pours a dark black color with some ruby around the edges. A two finger beige head forms, and gently recedes. Light lace is left behind.
S: Very neutral in the nose. Some toasted malts, dry bitter chocolate. Really not much else.
T: Well, like the nose there is not much here. Nothing really to make out other than some toasted malt, cereal grains, burnt toast, and bitter chocolate in the finish.
M/D: A medium body and carbonation. Fairly crisp, dry, and smooth. Not hard t drink. Though not something I particularly enjoy. I can't see myself coming back to this.

Just blah. I have never been a huge fan of Stone. Though their beers are always packed with something, whether or not I like that is another story. An uncharacteristically...uncharacteristic offering. And what the hell is a "Black Saison" anyway.

Photo of Texasfan549
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of Beermister
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of Lucidious
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.2/5  rDev +20%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A collaborative effort from all the good folks at Stone/Stillwater/Evil Twin
After reviewing I realized this was my 1800th review, cheers!

LOOK: Pours a deep brown with a light off white foam that leaves good lace. Has good staying power, and was served in a chalice.

SMELL: Bread, toast, chocolate, grass and slightly funky Belgian yeast.

TASTE: Moderately tart in a Belgian fashion upfront giving way to notes of dry cocoa, coffee, herbs and hops. Mild peppery spiciness paired with a presence of molasses. Dry hopped flavor comes through well.

FEEL: Really nice, smooth and the carbonation is strong and slightly drying, right where it needs to be. Almost creamy, and spicy.

OVERALL: To hell with judging this beer to any one style, it's a conundrum. A very good one at that. But, for being a smoked Saison, the smoke is not very strong. It had more of a pleasant roasted malt flavor.

Photo of BWH999
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of Rutager
3.48/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance. Pours a very deep, dark brown with little light coming through and topped with a thin, pale tan head.

Smell. Spicy saison yeast and belgian spices with smokey wood, molasses and a strange perfumey floral smell.

Taste. Charred wood and belgian yeast for the most part. There's a touch of spice and dark malts, but mostly the bitter charred wood and yeast.

Mouthfeel. Medium+ body, medium, quite smooth carbonation.

Overall. A nice experiment, but the smoke didn't go so well with the spicy yeast imo. Not terrible by any means, just not amazing.

Photo of teromous
3.09/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A: Black body, with a thick tan foamy head. Very good lacing. It looks beautiful.

S: It has a very dank smelling scent to it. There's some of that catty smell to it, as well as a stale scent to it like old rope or something. The scent punches out in one direction though, and doesn't have a great deal of complexity.

T: Lots of heavy flavors come out immediately. I mean it really kicks me in the mouth. There's a ton of roasted bitterness, there's a pine tree resin character, some mint, and that catty character as well. There's a lot going on, but it seems like too much. The more I drink it, the more it does grow on me. One thing is for certain...I can't ever call this beer boring.

M: The mouthfeel is big and bold. It has a huge body, lots of carbonation, lots of roasted and hop bitterness, and it seems to bite back at the palate. I felt that it was too aggressive and is effectively a palate wrecker.

O: Overall it wasn't a beer for me. I wouldn't buy it again. It was an interesting beer, but I am glad it is only a 12oz bottle. I applaud it for being such a bold beer, but it really didn't have much Saison character and it was too heavy to be refreshing. Looking at it from outside the box, there was still too much going on in the beer to make it enjoyable.

Photo of mick303
3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of Danny1217
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of Pinknuggets
2.99/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle to oversized wine glass

A: dark brown with hints of red to it but its also pretty close to black as it is completely opaque. There is a dark tan head that dissipates and leaves a ring around the top of the glass.

S: There is a little but of that hopped farmhouse smell but its not really there and there are hints at best of the smokiness though the malt is very present and unfortunately so is the alc.

T: As with the nose there is that saison hop taste but it is very mild and the smoke is there (once the beer warms up) but it is definitely in the background it seems balanced to me but not necessarily in a good way as it is just bland.

M: The mouth feel is oily and fairly smooth which is what makes this beer more drinkable and is probably the best part in my opinion and its nothing to write home about.

O: Well I was expecting a lot more from the three breweries involved, but evil twin is kinda hit or miss for me. Anyways it was just pretty bland no powerful taste or smell a decent mouthfeel and look but it definitely doesn't do much for me, but it also wasn't horrible.

Photo of MusicaleMike
2.8/5  rDev -20%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tulip glass. Poured a very dark brown, verging on black with deep ruby hues at the edge of the beer. Head is substantial, tight, and leaves some really decent lacing. Definitely a good start for this beer.

Served right out of the fridge, there was no aroma to speak of, so I let the beer warm up for a while, holding with both hands to try and help speed the process up. Eventually, I start to be able to smell this saison, but even as it approaches a warmer temp, it is still fairly subdued. What I do get is a very light aroma of hay, wheatgrass, and herbal hops. Smokey? Only in the subtlest of ways, and even then I'm not sure if it is just because I am looking for it.

Finally at the right temp, this beer exhibits a weak mix of smoke, hops and black saison. I expect something more aggressive from brewers like Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone. I personally think "smoke" is missing from the equation altogether and that even the "Dark Saison" characteristics are a bit lost here.

Dry, medium body and well carbonated. Kinda spot on for where it needs to be for a saison. Gotta give credit where it is due.

Yeah, I was disappointed by the beer a bit. I feel like they advertised this as one thing (Smoked Black Saison) and went after a very "delicate" version of that and ultimately fell short of delivering that unique style. It had good Saison qualities, but missed the boat for the other things.

Photo of tbone1384
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of Envelopes
3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of rwilde
3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of bigred89
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of Greywulfken
4.33/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Described on the bottle as a "black smoked saison", this beer looks to combine characteristics of two styles: the saison and the (presumably) American black ale (ABA).

A: center pour into a nonic pint - slightly translucent black body, tan sea foam head three fingers-thick

S: only noticed slight smoke on the nose, dark bitter roasted malt aromas were cut by slightly herbal and floral notes more typical of a pale ale

T: bitterness from the roastiness; crisp hops and bright yeasts - nicely bittered but light aftertaste

M: light and smooth, slight bitter coating on the palate - very drinkable

O: I have to say this beer probably tastes like what you'd expect if you poured a black ale into a saison. For that reason, I thought the beer very good. I thought it looked, smelled, and felt like "the kinda dame worth gettin' in dutch for"

My tasting biases:
I've had several ABAs, being fond of those that have a sweeter taste and fuller feel (like Dark Element and Dark Horse's Special Reserve) as opposed to having those with a more bitter taste and crisper feel (like a Wookey Jack) - but I liked them all, mind you. Moreover, I feel like Stone's Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale is probably a perfect middle ground for the style.
Saison wise, I've had more than a few - and really liked tham all - but Foret stands out from the rest as exemplifying what I expect in a saison. Caveat: I have never had the Saison Dupont, which some may regard as the definitive saison.

I see my review leapt way above the average... I believe this beer will improve in rating as it gets more reviews - bearing in mind that it attempts to blend of two styles - a feat I think they pulled off very well.

Photo of 2neardead
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of piconaut
4/5  rDev +14.3%

Photo of UltimateLivewire
4.75/5  rDev +35.7%

Photo of charlzm
3.65/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Consumed on January 3rd, 2013 from a Klokke Roeland goblet.

Beer pours a clear dark brown with deep garnet highlights. Head is less than a finger tall and dissipated quickly.

Aromas: bubblegum and a little banana all but mask a touch of funk.

Flavor is smooth and surprisingly bitter at the end. Slightly metallic, a touch of smoke, some dark malts that are more charred than roasted. Not much of the promised smoke flavor to be found. Almost no funk or farm character, either. Maybe a touch of sour cherry or somethign in the midtaste.

Mouthfeel is a little silky, smooth and thick. Slightly dry on the finish.

The oddest beer I've ever had with the "saison" label applied to it. This is to saison what Stone's Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale is to IPA. A decent enough beer to drink, but would be a big fail if rating to style guidelines of saison.

Ratings reflect the beer only relative to the general world of beer, as it can't be properly evaluated as the purported style.

Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
80 out of 100 based on 632 ratings.