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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
80
good

613 Ratings
THE BROS
73
okay

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Ratings: 613
Reviews: 182
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14.29%
Wants: 7
Gots: 48 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012)
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bigred89

Maryland

3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

01-05-2013 20:47:39 | More by bigred89
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Greywulfken

New York

4.35/5  rDev +24.3%

Described on the bottle as a "black smoked saison", this beer looks to combine characteristics of two styles: the saison and the (presumably) American black ale (ABA).

A: center pour into a nonic pint - slightly translucent black body, tan sea foam head three fingers-thick

S: only noticed slight smoke on the nose, dark bitter roasted malt aromas were cut by slightly herbal and floral notes more typical of a pale ale

T: bitterness from the roastiness; crisp hops and bright yeasts - nicely bittered but light aftertaste

M: light and smooth, slight bitter coating on the palate - very drinkable

O: I have to say this beer probably tastes like what you'd expect if you poured a black ale into a saison. For that reason, I thought the beer very good. I thought it looked, smelled, and felt like "the kinda dame worth gettin' in dutch for"

My tasting biases:
I've had several ABAs, being fond of those that have a sweeter taste and fuller feel (like Dark Element and Dark Horse's Special Reserve) as opposed to having those with a more bitter taste and crisper feel (like a Wookey Jack) - but I liked them all, mind you. Moreover, I feel like Stone's Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale is probably a perfect middle ground for the style.
Saison wise, I've had more than a few - and really liked tham all - but Foret stands out from the rest as exemplifying what I expect in a saison. Caveat: I have never had the Saison Dupont, which some may regard as the definitive saison.

I see my review leapt way above the average... I believe this beer will improve in rating as it gets more reviews - bearing in mind that it attempts to blend of two styles - a feat I think they pulled off very well.

01-05-2013 18:06:18 | More by Greywulfken
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2neardead

California

3.5/5  rDev 0%

01-05-2013 02:39:45 | More by 2neardead
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piconaut

Florida

4/5  rDev +14.3%

01-05-2013 02:25:37 | More by piconaut
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UltimateLivewire

South Carolina

4.75/5  rDev +35.7%

01-05-2013 02:17:01 | More by UltimateLivewire
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charlzm

California

3.65/5  rDev +4.3%

Consumed on January 3rd, 2013 from a Klokke Roeland goblet.

Beer pours a clear dark brown with deep garnet highlights. Head is less than a finger tall and dissipated quickly.

Aromas: bubblegum and a little banana all but mask a touch of funk.

Flavor is smooth and surprisingly bitter at the end. Slightly metallic, a touch of smoke, some dark malts that are more charred than roasted. Not much of the promised smoke flavor to be found. Almost no funk or farm character, either. Maybe a touch of sour cherry or somethign in the midtaste.

Mouthfeel is a little silky, smooth and thick. Slightly dry on the finish.

The oddest beer I've ever had with the "saison" label applied to it. This is to saison what Stone's Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale is to IPA. A decent enough beer to drink, but would be a big fail if rating to style guidelines of saison.

Ratings reflect the beer only relative to the general world of beer, as it can't be properly evaluated as the purported style.

01-04-2013 04:36:33 | More by charlzm
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oline73

Maryland

2.2/5  rDev -37.1%

Poured from the bottle into a goblet.

Appearance: The beer pours a dark brown with some light coming through at the edges. There is a half finger of light tan head that goes away quickly.

Smell: Sweeter than expected with some fruity notes that remind me a bit of cherries. I'm getting some mild roast and a faint hint of herbs.

Taste: I'm almost at a loss for words. This beer was a bad idea. There is a bitterness in the finish that just crushes anything else that might be going on. There is a fruity cherry note that is pleasant enough. Lots of roast along with a herbal saison component. The finish is full of roast and has a lot of hop bitterness. Just a mess.

Mouthfeel: The body is medium with a lot of tingly carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I really didn't like this one. I'm all for experimenting, but this one was an experiment gone wrong.

01-04-2013 01:56:04 | More by oline73
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scooter9

New York

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%

01-03-2013 02:23:15 | More by scooter9
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mecmd

Georgia

3.5/5  rDev 0%

01-02-2013 21:59:48 | More by mecmd
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Uncle_Jimmy

California

2.58/5  rDev -26.3%

Bottle poured into a glass

This is perhaps the worst place to start on my "2013 year of beer" (my attempt to taste/review one beer a day for a whole year(yeah i know i'm not the first))

A lot going on in this one

Appearance- Nearly opaque with a thin tan head that dissipates quickly. very little legs and lacing.

Smell- Smoke , cherry plum/prune stone fruit. slightly sour smelling bready

Taste- roasty pine and a small amount of saison- sourness in the middle that finished with a resiny big hop bitterness at the end. The aftertaste is all hop.

Mouthfeel- dry, high on carbonation a little bit of alcohol warmth

Overall-There are three components to this beer, they are the roastyness, light saison sourness, and the hop character. Now I am all for blending of styles but i think the 3rd component detracts from the other two. I could do a heavily hopped Saison or a CDA it's that 3rd component that is just too much. I wouldn't order another but i am interested in each breweries individual efforts!

01-02-2013 06:04:04 | More by Uncle_Jimmy
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chilidog

Ohio

3.43/5  rDev -2%

Poued into a stone pint glass.
Dark, black, medium carbonation. Nice half inch tan head that fades as does the lace.

Aroma of dark malts, earthy char and toast.

Taste of dark toasted malts, char of wood, slight smoke and a hint of
Alcohol and hop.

Mouth felt carbonated, soft and left slight dry.

Overall an ok brew, a sipper if need be.

01-01-2013 12:35:55 | More by chilidog
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dtx00

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -14.3%

01-01-2013 06:51:02 | More by dtx00
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artdob

California

4.28/5  rDev +22.3%

Pours dark black with a modest but respectable head.

Nose has nice roasty characteristics, smokiness, and herbs.

Palate is powerful. Roasted malt, hop bitterness yielding to very light dark fruit, and ending with mild sweetness, even though the roastiness continues thoughout the entire eperience. A longer lasting finish than most beers.

Mouthfeel is creamy with very mild carbonation.

Reminiscent of a porter. Enjoyed this one, seemingly more so than other reviewers on this site.

01-01-2013 05:44:51 | More by artdob
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Eastside151

Ohio

3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

01-01-2013 02:33:03 | More by Eastside151
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Justin_Neff

Ohio

2.68/5  rDev -23.4%

A: Pours dark, dark brown color with a 1-2 finger head that fades fast and doesn't lace the glass much.

S: Tons of Funk smell. A little smoke. There's a little fruit, a little pine, and a hint of farmhouse. Definitely not what I expect or want from the description of a "Smoked Black Saison".

T: Almost exactly what you expect from the nose - only difference is that you get a little more smoke than smell would suggest, which is a good thing. The funky, wild yeast smell tastes very diluted and doesn't mesh well with the smoke. As a whole, the beer tastes diluted.

M: Very light body, could be thicker, but has a good level of carbonation.

O: I'll give it a 3, for the sheer creativity of the idea, but overall my least favorite of the Stone Collaborations - by a long shot.

01-01-2013 01:34:39 | More by Justin_Neff
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Lee_Hancock

Maryland

3.5/5  rDev 0%

01-01-2013 00:57:27 | More by Lee_Hancock
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busternuggz

California

4/5  rDev +14.3%

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into an etched everted tulip glass.

Black with a little brown around the edges, not totally opaque, with a nice creamy 1/2" beige head. Leaves some spotty lacing.

Subtle sweet smoke and soily earthiness lead on the nose, a little cocoa, some pepper. Some herbal notes too, like licorice root.

The taste comes on with bittersweet cocoa, soft smoke, moist earth, some roastiness, grains, a little dark fruit, like dates. Just a little sweetness up front, ends fairly dry and lightly bitter with herbal/grassy notes.

Nice, lush texture up front, a little creamy, ends light but still soft and moist.

I like this beer, even though it's an atypical saison. It balances the saison characters with the "smoked" and "black" characters well to make a unique beer. The Stillwater influence is very prevalent.

12-31-2012 23:52:10 | More by busternuggz
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captainbearcat

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +21.4%

12-31-2012 23:41:59 | More by captainbearcat
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Wishdiak

Connecticut

3.5/5  rDev 0%

12-31-2012 23:38:03 | More by Wishdiak
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nmann08

District of Columbia

3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

12-31-2012 23:16:09 | More by nmann08
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yourefragile

District of Columbia

2.65/5  rDev -24.3%

12 oz bottle. Received as an extra.

Pours a clear, dark roast cola brown with a large frothy bubbly tan head that has long lasting retention and thick webs of lace. Yeast, clove, ash, char, banana and wet gravel on the nose. Medium thin body, soft carbonation, and a finish like a glass of cigarettes. Front of palate rides a wave of smoke, ashtray, char and roast throughout, like a bad porter. Underneath that mess and on the back end a yeasty and clove rich saison struggles to emerge. Not the drainpour mess that I expected; this seemed like a weak idea to me (to my own taste) conceptually, and the execution was like two different styles mixing like oil and water.

12-31-2012 20:59:40 | More by yourefragile
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Massbmx

Massachusetts

3.5/5  rDev 0%

12-30-2012 23:22:07 | More by Massbmx
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JK4Stout

Virginia

3/5  rDev -14.3%

A: Not too shabby. Pours a very dark brown. Could go even darker for the style, but we won't get picky here. Has a decent head, but it dissipated quickly.

S: There are better sassions out there in this department. It has a definite note of that tart/citrus-y/methanol-y scent I come to attribute with the style, but there is also a weakness in this area. it smells unfinished.

T: Not bad, but nothing really exciting with this ale. Certainly not worth the price. It does have a lingering smoky flavor, so I give it points for that, but not much else. All in all this is Stone's most mediocre collaboration offering. Sure it looks good, has a great name, and a cool label...but sadly I'm not six and I need something more than that at my age.

M: It is strong and medium in weight to the tongue. I think it fits the style pretty well here in this catagory. Carbonation could have been taken down a scosh.

O: I just can't get on board here. Sorry, Stone. I love most of your brew, but this one just fell short. I love the collaboration series. I think the very idea behind it deserves recognition...but either do more tweaking before a release or stick to a style you are all more comfortable with.

12-30-2012 23:18:19 | More by JK4Stout
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shagal

Alberta (Canada)

4/5  rDev +14.3%

12-30-2012 23:09:56 | More by shagal
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iL0VEbeer

New Jersey

4/5  rDev +14.3%

12-30-2012 22:41:03 | More by iL0VEbeer
Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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