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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime"

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635 Ratings

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Ratings: 635
Reviews: 184
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14%
Wants: 7
Gots: 50 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 635 | Reviews: 184
Photo of Rifugium
1.82/5  rDev -48%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

First had: firkin at Capone's, Norristown, PA

Honestly, I would not have thought this was a saison if I didn't look it up. I can identify styles with the best of them, but at the time, I couldn't really tell what this one was, and kind of just passed it off as a weak porter.

Dark brown pour, opaque, or at least so it seemed in the light of the bar, a few stray bubbles on top, but otherwise no head. This beer had been sitting for a while, because it wasn't one degree below room temperature. I know that's the point of a cask, but it wasn't working in this case. I tried and tried to get an aroma from this, to the point of nearly dipping my schnoz in the beer, but it just wasn't happening. Nothing! I've had beers with bad aromas, weak aromas, muted aromas, but I really got zero in the nose with this. Taste-wise, I believe I literally said "bleh" when I sipped it. Bland dark malts, soy sauce, burnt cardboard, with a blast of earthy hops in the finish. And all this at puke warm temperature with little to no carbonation...it just didn't work. Light-medium body, and really just unpalatable. Three good breweries making one bad beer. I guess the "perfect crime" was putting this on the market.

Photo of hickmancase
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of ambruns1979
3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.11/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This. Is gross. Really. What the hell is this? When I first took a sniff of this, I wondered what precisely it was reminding me of. I can't pinpont it, but it's somewhere in the ballpark of turpentine. The beer tastes saison-esqe. I can certainly grab the basic elements of what I should be tasting. But the smoked tones with this odd yeast thing going on just do not work at all. As it warms a bit, it gets more tolerable. But there is just something here that is lacking. And that's putting it nicely. For the price, this beer should be at least good. Considering the three breweries that are involved, it should really be well above average.

Photo of popery
3.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours very dark brown. Medium to small beige head. Decent lacing. And lo, I've written another appearance rating. Aroma is a bit odd. There are notes of meaty smoke, toasty, bready malt, saison earthiness and citric/grassy hops, and it doesn't really come together. It's not bad, just kinda disjointed. The primary note is that doughy caramel malt flavor, which throws things a bit too far toward sweet territory. The taste is also sweeter than I'd like. There's some vaguely coffee-ish bitterness in the finish, but it's not enough. Again, the flavors just don't really work together. It's mostly the smoke and earthy yeast. They just don't quite work on top of the sweetness. That said, I don't hate it or anything. It's just a pleasant, mildly smokey sort of nondescript beer. There's a little dark malt/smoke twang to it, a little roast and a bunch of caramel. Feel is creamy and a little thicker than I'd prefer. This is a nice and interesting take on the style, but I'm not blown away. It's probably too sweet. The sweet caramel muddies the other flavors, but it's hard to tell if those other flavors are really worth accentuating. These Stone collabs are fun, usually interesting and often disappointing.

Photo of ryan1788a5
3.4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

12oz bottle poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours a deep black color with a creamy beige head. The head initially stands at an inch an a half in height, but settles shortly into a half inch cap. Lacing is thin and web-like.

S: Spicy and perfumey Belgian yeast. Cinnamon, pepper, subtle hints of clove. Bread crust, black cocoa powder, charcoal and soot. Very slight whiff of smoked malts.

T: Soot and charcoal malt tastes are cut by a strong hit of clove. Pepper and spicy Belgian yeast tastes are quickly followed by a touch of acrid smoked malts. Light fruitiness. Slight oily hop presence in the background. Finishes with clove, smoke, and fleeting oily hops.

M: On the lighter side of medium bodied. Airy, fluffy, and creamy in the mouth. Moderate carbonation.

O: The combination of flavors at play just don't work. Smoked malts and Belgian yeast don't really seem to jive. The phenol tastes are sharp and pronounced too, and it starts to wear on the palate.

3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of thecheapies
3.46/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The "Perfect Crime" poured into a tulip glass.

We've got some great sticky lacing here from a two-inch head that is receding slowly, but keeping a solid half-inch layer. The beer is almost black with some red hues from light passing through. Second black saison this month, and this one's smoked. Can't wait to get my nose into it.

Alright now... this is strange. I pick up lemon pith and farmhouse yeast, but it's a little maltier than any other saison. There's a slight burning wood aroma that can be attributed to the presence of smoked malts. Nuances of tart red fruits, but otherwise pretty flat in the nose. Any complexities that may be there seem overpowered by the barely-there whiff of smoke.

Interesting flavors of mellowed farmhouse ale with lemon, grapefruit pith, and pine hop flavors and attenuated malts with some roasty notes. The smokiness is very light--appealingly so. However, besides the pronounced hop notes, the flavor is a bit attenuated. It's unique, but not extreme, and "extreme" was what I was looking for--in the awesome way, of course.

The mouthfeel is pretty tip-top, as it reminds me of the feel of many of Stillwater's saisons. Velvety smooth with some accompanying carbonation that accentuates a humble afterburn from the alcohol.

Somewhat disappointing in that the base beer wasn't quality enough to support the extra hop additions. In fact, the hops may have drowned out the smoky flavors, as well. Still worth a try.

Photo of ELECTRONICAnonymous
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of DovaliHops
3.85/5  rDev +10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown color with a small/medium, off-white head. Scent is smokey and meaty. Smells like smoked meat with a bit of saison spice. Some grassy hop aromas. Taste is just like it smells, but with more depth. This beer starts of with the smoke and rich flavors. Slowly blends into spicy, saison-like flavors. Not funky at all, which unfortunately takes away from my favorite aspect of a good saison. For what this beer lacks in funk, it makes up for in smokey goodness. Mouthfeel is light-medium bodied and refreshing...probably the most refreshing smoked beer I've had. Guess that's the saison side of it. Drinkability is fairly high. Overall, this beer sure is strange. It definitely doesn't play by the rules. I wouldn't say it's a good saison/farmhouse ale. But I'd for sure call it a good smoked beer.

Photo of jtierney89
4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I like the smell of this one. Extremely dark brown but noticably clear. Finger and a half of smokey white head. Very smokey nose, dark roasted malts, touch of chocolate and asphault and an underlying Belgian like funk. Sour funky dark fruit.

This beer is as weird as it sounds but in a good way. Like a Belgian stout but you can taste the saison influence. Smokey but not overwhelmingly so. Nice roastiness with no astringencies and a funky saison feel. Really super complex with a medium rolling creamy body. A really nice funky and drinkable beer. Sweet up front, funky on the back end with balancing underlying hop bitterness. Love it

Photo of SanFranJake
3.63/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

In the interest if full disclosure, saison's aren't my fave but by no means am I opposed and with these three brain-trusts, I had to try.
Pours a dark brown with minimal head which fades rather fast.
Lots of scents like what others have mentioned, none of which really stand out.
Taste leaves a bit to be desired. It's not bad, just not great either.
Overall, would I buy it again...sure. But it wouldn't be a "must have", just a "should try" given the guys who put their name on the bottle.

Photo of BigLittleHokis
4/5  rDev +14.3%

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3/5  rDev -14.3%

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3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of vfgccp
2.4/5  rDev -31.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Solid khaki head with ok retention and lace. Cola body with caramel highlights.

S - Broccoli, fermented vegetables, lemon, asparagus, sweat. Not necessarily pleasant.

T - Doesn't taste as bad as it smells, but it definitely fell short of my expectations. Just a hint of smoke over light malt, soft floral notes, and a touch of black pepper.

M - Thin body, with a semi-watery finish. Low carbonation, especially for a saison.

O - A super let down considering the caliber of the breweries that are behind this brew. The perfect crime here is that they convinced me to buy this brew.

Photo of rydev24
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of Knapp85
3.2/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This poured out as a deep brown color with a very minimal head on top. The retention and lacing were gone before I took a first sip. The smell of the beer has some light fruity aromas with a touch of roasted malt and bread. The taste was yeasty, more bread a touch of roasted malt and some fresh grapes in the mix. The finish had a decent bitterness to it. The mouthfeel was a little on the thin side, not overly exciting. Overall this beer was nice too try but a little bit of a disappointment in my opinion. I feel it just lacks some qualities that this style of beer should have. Perhaps it would be better from a bottle.

Photo of HamGlade10
3.5/5  rDev 0%

Photo of SFC21
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of Marty30
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of nquigley16
3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of OWSLEY069
3.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a deep amber to black in color with a tan head. In the aroma, a small tartness, earthy and a note of smoke. In the taste, small earthy tartness, with notes of smoke in the end. A small bite, and a medium to lighter bodied mouthfeel, with a lightly dry note of earthy tartness and smoke. More earthy tartness than smoke, a bit odd.

Photo of steve8robin
3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

Photo of Nightrain87
4/5  rDev +14.3%

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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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