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Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
80
good

617 Ratings
THE BROS
73
okay

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Ratings: 617
Reviews: 182
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 14.29%
Wants: 7
Gots: 51 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Stone Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: chugalug06 on 11-13-2012)
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Photo of bigbluebeerguy
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

bigbluebeerguy, Jun 29, 2014
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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

polishkaz, Nov 19, 2012
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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

CityofBals, Sep 12, 2013
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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

Skunkdrool, Aug 22, 2013
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2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

Geno206, May 31, 2013
Photo of Thomas_562
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

Thomas_562, Jun 27, 2014
Photo of vinny21bal
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

vinny21bal, Dec 09, 2013
Photo of AWL
2.75/5  rDev -21.4%

AWL, Nov 19, 2012
Photo of MusicaleMike
2.8/5  rDev -20%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Served in a tulip glass. Poured a very dark brown, verging on black with deep ruby hues at the edge of the beer. Head is substantial, tight, and leaves some really decent lacing. Definitely a good start for this beer.

Served right out of the fridge, there was no aroma to speak of, so I let the beer warm up for a while, holding with both hands to try and help speed the process up. Eventually, I start to be able to smell this saison, but even as it approaches a warmer temp, it is still fairly subdued. What I do get is a very light aroma of hay, wheatgrass, and herbal hops. Smokey? Only in the subtlest of ways, and even then I'm not sure if it is just because I am looking for it.

Finally at the right temp, this beer exhibits a weak mix of smoke, hops and black saison. I expect something more aggressive from brewers like Evil Twin, Stillwater and Stone. I personally think "smoke" is missing from the equation altogether and that even the "Dark Saison" characteristics are a bit lost here.

Dry, medium body and well carbonated. Kinda spot on for where it needs to be for a saison. Gotta give credit where it is due.

Yeah, I was disappointed by the beer a bit. I feel like they advertised this as one thing (Smoked Black Saison) and went after a very "delicate" version of that and ultimately fell short of delivering that unique style. It had good Saison qualities, but missed the boat for the other things.

MusicaleMike, Jan 06, 2013
Photo of sweemzander
2.83/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz. bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a pitch black color. Produced some tan froth.

(S)- A light smoky roasted raisin aroma meets some mellow cocoa and baked bread-like yeastiness.

(T)- Very similar to the smell. Overall, an up front combo of a salty smoke brine meets roasted malts and some raisin/cocoa.

(M)- A good carbonation level. The balance is good too, just a slightly too heavy smoke component that gets in the way of the rest of the beer.

(O)- An interesting take on the style. I just do not think it is completely successful. Some good things in there, but the smoke could definitely be toned down a bit while still being present instead of overpowering.

sweemzander, May 06, 2013
Photo of brewdlyhooked13
2.86/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - dark, no light getting through. Nice finger of light mocha head, lacy and sticky.

Aroma - mostly the dark malts, a whiff of something earthy/saison/funk-like but nothing clear.

Taste - so I'm looking mostly for balance among the black malts and/or smoke, and the saison. The malts are certainly charred, nearly ashen, but not particularly smoky. Mid-palate contains the first note of the saison. I think it's basically the yeast I'm picking up - a little tart and funky but any delicate flavors are lost in the heavy roast. I guess it does what it was intended to do, but it reminds me of a stout that has starting to turn with infection. Ends with the saison dryness and black char.

Mouthfeel - crisp, smooth, good firm body to amply support all the flavor going on.

Overall - not that enjoyable for me, but I can drink and appreciate the good balance to this one.

brewdlyhooked13, Oct 23, 2013
Photo of ummswimmin
2.93/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Usually the Stone collaborations sell out really quickly. I just happened to get lucky that they had a bottle of this on the shelf at my local store.

The nose on this beer provides a little sour note as well as a light coffee touch. I also pick up a decent amount of malt there.

The flavor is really unbalanced. I don't know what to pick up. This beer is really all over the place. I am really not happy with what is in that glass.

ummswimmin, Dec 02, 2012
Photo of Chaney
2.94/5  rDev -16%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a Stone IRS glass.

A: Poured a dark, burnt brown, with only a few bubbles posing as a head.

S: Smelled like rotten, fermented fruit actually. Quite a bit of booze in there as well.

T: Still, those rotten esters really lingered which wasn't pleasant. I actually kinda dug the smokiness of this though.

M: Very low in carbonation and lacing overall. Okay here.

O: Never would have tagged this as a saison... more like Belgian Strong or something. Either way, it wasn't good.

Chaney, Sep 17, 2013
Photo of Treyliff
2.95/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

A- pours black, but not quite opaque, khaki foamy and sudsy head that reduces to a small bubbly layer, leaving a little bit of lace

S- strange bouquet of aromas, starting with some toasted grainy malt with a little bit of toffee/caramel, dried dark fruit, blackberries, just a hint of smoke. Not really picking up any saison aromas, but there us an off puting metallic/sour aroma at the end

T- sweet caramel malt flavors are meshed with some astringent dark fruit/berry flavors, their are some faint yeasty saison flavors, but for the most part are masked by a sweet and fruity malt flavor. The smoke aspect is barely detectable any there's some metallic flavors on the finish

M- medium body with low carbonation, slightly foamy mouthfeel with a crisp finish

O- not really sure what they were going for here. This tastes nothing like a saison, the 'smoked' flavors are barely noticeable, and overall it's all over the place

Treyliff, Oct 27, 2013
Photo of PDXHops
2.96/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

12 ounce bottle poured into a La Chouffe tulip. Just a few shades shy of black with a head that's disappointing in terms of volume, but is tightly formed and leaves a fair amount of lacing up top.

The nose on this is like Exhibit A of why I haven't been a huge fan of the black saisons I've run into so far. It's pleasant enough but roast and light chocolate notes blunt any notions of the typical saison stuff. Dark fruit, mild spicing, bready. I dunno, pleasant but not what I'm expecting. It has to warm up plenty before the smoky notes begin to amount to much

The smoky flavor is more pronounced, and there's a sharp roast bite to this stuff. Oddly it's kinda thickish and creamy. It's yeasty, but without the crisp and bright spicy/fruity/lively goodness you want in a saison. A rare dud from Escondido.

PDXHops, Jan 17, 2013
Photo of mactrail
2.96/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Dark mahogany color in the Saxo tall tulip with a modest foam. Average carbonation. Very thin body but a decent sudsiness. I would call this a black Cascadian IPA, but then it is flushed with a whole lot of the Belgian dry yeastiness. A hint of apples and burnt oatmeal.

This stuff is quite sharp and bitter. Not hardly like a Saison, even stretching the style, but I'll rate it as such. Seems like the collaboration yields Stillwater's excess of the dry yeast flavors, along with Stone's prediliction for turning everything into an IPA, plus Evil Twin's murky silliness. Seems like a perfect crime to me.

Sourish aftertaste is even less appealing after all the harsh bitterness. And then it dries out from there and leaves a film on the teeth and the sensation of cardboard. From the 12 oz bottle bought at Grapevine Liquors in Denver.

mactrail, Feb 06, 2013
Photo of harrymel
2.98/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Found this at Bottleworks, bottled 26OCT12

Black with a light tan etch across the surface. Smells of earth, yeast, clay, some light smoke, some cocoa, and a touch of tobacco. Flavor is light, some oaky mesquite character earthy yeast and a little bit of alcohol and some bitterness. Medium body with light carb and a semi dry finish. Not really into it.

harrymel, Mar 11, 2013
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

ste5venla, May 27, 2013
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

Reappropriated, Nov 30, 2013
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

dtx00, Jan 01, 2013
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

Beejay, Dec 30, 2012
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

Geuzedad, Jun 23, 2013
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

Tumble, Dec 27, 2012
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3/5  rDev -14.3%

Bustersuess, May 18, 2013
Photo of utfiero
3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Color- thick espresso. Full coffee foam head.

Aroma- hoppy and spiced with hint of roastiness.

Taste- An odd bird of a brew. Starts smokey with active carbonation, slightly bitter and roasty, finishing with a lingering rich roast and hops. Described as a black smoked saison. A Stone collaboration.

Poured from 650 ml bomber into a Liefmans Goudenband glass (my preferred all purpose beer tasting glass). Tasted 7/7/2013

utfiero, Jun 03, 2014
Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" from Stone Brewing Co.
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