17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA - Stone Brewing Co.
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4.2/5 rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4
22 oz bottle
nose is nice, difference between the overly citrus or tropical IPAs is immediately noted. At first sniff I don't think the overall hop kick is as strong, but mostly that is due to the pungency of the hops and their fruits represented. It's actually quite strong. 5 years ago we'd probably even call it intense. interesting minty quality mixed with the spices and flowers - I look for the label but no, none of the ice candy Polaris I'd hoped to find. fruitiness is there but not dominant. Malt struggles to shine through, as I would expect. A couple times I think I find the honey/light dough notes of Pilsner malt, but they are quickly overwhelmed. Alcohol - yeah there is some here. Can't help but wonder if a 7.5-8% beer might be a touch more in balance with these less-than-intense German varietals.
light gold color, bright and vibrant. Just Pilsner malts? more color than I'd expect. Head is off white, firm, high and lasting to the bottom with decent lacing. Nice looking Stone beer; no surprise there.
Flavor mostly follows aroma. alcohol is everpresent, just short of hot, but not. Harsh? - probably no more than your standard Stone IPA, actually. I think alcohol is doing more to balance the hops than any malt is to be honest. Nice hop flavor. hint of citrus/lemon. overall flavor is strong but not dominant. ample flowery/spicy hops here - yeah, it seems more noble-ish than any of the "new" German hops I've reading about and occasionally brewing with. There's a decidedly Saaz-ish spice here. I'm frankly disappointed a bit - not that it isn't great, but when I read about new German hops, I wanted to taste more of them. where's the mandarin orange and the aforementioned ice candy? No Hallertau Blanc? Oh well. Otherwise your typical Stone IPA with firm, lingering bitterness, no off flavors, nothing in the way of the hops (and alcohol). Solid all around.
Hints of numbing though less than Ruination, for instance. Ample warming on the palate - obvious this is a big beer. Touch stickier than I expected, and while I appreciate the dry finish, I wouldn't mind it being a touch cleaner. FG might be a bit higher than I expected with just Pils; it seems to work here to help balance the hops. there's malt there, it's just nondescript.
I'm enjoying this, more than I expected to. The hops are on point, and the high alcohol without any real malt character to balance it just makes enjoyment less than it could be otherwise. It's not the ridiculous "hop juice" of some of the session IPAs out there but I can't help but feel it needs some time. Yet I can't age it into anything smoother. Close to greatness...
if I were making this I'd age it cool for probably a year, THEN dry hop it and bottle, just like I'd treat a big English IPA.
Serving type: bottle
08-19-2013 21:06:17 | More by udubdawg
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3.71/5 rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
My former high school classmate and current drinking buddy, Mike, stopped by to help me in my ongoing bottle eradication. He spied this one and suggested that I break it out since it was already older than the brewery would have preferred. This is all part of the reason that I will not be buying many bottles in the future - it just becomes too easy to get inundated and backlogged by the dang things!
From the bottle: "August 2013 Release Drink Fresh"; "Stone 17th Anniversary Gotterdammerung IPA [-] Life is never dull at Stone, but the last year has been one of the most eventful yet. We threw open the doors to Stone Brewing World Bistro & Gardens - Liberty Station, our second decidedly eclectic brewery restaurant, installed in two historic Naval Training Center buildings (including the original mess hall). We outfitted it with a 10-barrel brewhouse, 40 taps serving Stone and guest beers, a huge outdoor garden area, and 650-plus seats. Hey, 'small' is for other people. Well, come to think of it, we do have our own version of 'small' in our brand-new-as-of-August craft beer-centric Stone bar and eatery in Terminal 2 of San Diego International Airport. At any rate, plan your trip accordingly. And we doubled the size and production capacity of our brewery, built the new Stone Packaging Hall and, oh yeah, found out we're now the 10th largest craft brewing company in the country. We can hardly believe we fit all that into one paragraph, much less 12 months. Through all that growth, like hop bines rooted in fertile soil (see what we did there?), we kept our feet securely planted on terra firma, remembering that it's all about the beer - we'd be nothing without it. and so, as we prepare to celebrate 17 years of straining the seams of the ale envelope, we again focus squarely on beer via our annual anniversary offering, while at the same time laying to waste long-held concepts of what German hops can and cannot do, as well as what the world has come to know about San Diego IPAs - thanks much in part to our family of beers."; "Inspired by new experimental German hops, our brewing team is celebrating our 17ten Jahrestag by taking palates on an unconventional tour of Deutschland by way of Southern California. In doing so, we used a grain bill comprised exclusively of pilsner malts and German hops with crazy awesome names: Herkules, Hersbrucker, Magnum, Merkur, Opal, Smaragd & Strisselspalt. Dry-hopping with Sterling, a U.S. hop with Saaz parentage, lends a bit of familiarity, but be forewarned, this is a unique beer that takes the IPA - a style we've already pushed far beyond its previous limits over the years - to interesting new territory. Schumpeter chose economics; we chose beer. Our creative destruction has been aimed squarely at the previously-held-dear conventions of what beer can and should be. Stone 17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA is the latest in a long line of innovations, but nowhere near the last. Not by a long shot. [undersigned] Greg Koch CEO & Co-founder [,] Steve Wagner President & Co-founder".
Whew! I poured for both Mike and I, netting three fingers of rocky, tawny head with very good retention. Color was a solid gold (SRM = > 5, < 7) with NE-quality clarity. Nose was very grassy with an underlying honey sweetness. [Bear in mind that I had not read or transcribed the above when I took my notes. My notes are direct.] This is an IPA?!? I would have guessed a German Pils. Mouthfeel was medium. The taste was sharp and grassy, more like an Imperial Pils. There was also a fairly hot fusel alcohol bite to it. Finish was dry, with a grassy, slightly minty coolness on the extreme finish. Wild!
Serving type: bottle
07-23-2014 14:24:15 | More by woodychandler
17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA from Stone Brewing Co.
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