17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA - Stone Brewing Co.
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3.6/5 rDev -8.6%
Enjoy by 10/17/13. 22oz bottle poured into a tulip. Pours a bright golden with a slight haze; fluffy white head that fades slowly and leaves great retention and lacing. The aromas are very sweet. Lots of caramel malts, followed by some orange peel and pine needles. There's also a touch of alcohol in the nose. The malts play an intricate role in this beer and are very forward. The flavors have a perfect balance between the malts and hops. But don't get it twisted, this is a very bitter beer. It reminds me of what an "Imperial English DIPA" would be. The pilsener malts are noticeable in the flavors, and make for an interesting contrast (in a good way). There's also a ton of lemon zest in the mix as well. Mouthfeel is great; full-bodied with active carbonation; fluffy and creamy. Alcohol basically goes unnoticed, although there's a very subtle amount of heat. This makes for a great sipper. This is a big beer.
This beer is well-crafted and I wouldn't expect anything else from Stone. Maybe this isn't exactly what I expect from them, which is my problem, not their's. I do get what they're doing with this one. I'm personally not crazy about this beer, but it's still good and I can totally appreciate it.
08-19-2013 22:12:29 | More by BB1313
4.2/5 rDev +6.6%
22 oz bottle
nose is nice, difference between the overly citrus or tropical IPAs is immediately noted. At first sniff I don't think the overall hop kick is as strong, but mostly that is due to the pungency of the hops and their fruits represented. It's actually quite strong. 5 years ago we'd probably even call it intense. interesting minty quality mixed with the spices and flowers - I look for the label but no, none of the ice candy Polaris I'd hoped to find. fruitiness is there but not dominant. Malt struggles to shine through, as I would expect. A couple times I think I find the honey/light dough notes of Pilsner malt, but they are quickly overwhelmed. Alcohol - yeah there is some here. Can't help but wonder if a 7.5-8% beer might be a touch more in balance with these less-than-intense German varietals.
light gold color, bright and vibrant. Just Pilsner malts? more color than I'd expect. Head is off white, firm, high and lasting to the bottom with decent lacing. Nice looking Stone beer; no surprise there.
Flavor mostly follows aroma. alcohol is everpresent, just short of hot, but not. Harsh? - probably no more than your standard Stone IPA, actually. I think alcohol is doing more to balance the hops than any malt is to be honest. Nice hop flavor. hint of citrus/lemon. overall flavor is strong but not dominant. ample flowery/spicy hops here - yeah, it seems more noble-ish than any of the "new" German hops I've reading about and occasionally brewing with. There's a decidedly Saaz-ish spice here. I'm frankly disappointed a bit - not that it isn't great, but when I read about new German hops, I wanted to taste more of them. where's the mandarin orange and the aforementioned ice candy? No Hallertau Blanc? Oh well. Otherwise your typical Stone IPA with firm, lingering bitterness, no off flavors, nothing in the way of the hops (and alcohol). Solid all around.
Hints of numbing though less than Ruination, for instance. Ample warming on the palate - obvious this is a big beer. Touch stickier than I expected, and while I appreciate the dry finish, I wouldn't mind it being a touch cleaner. FG might be a bit higher than I expected with just Pils; it seems to work here to help balance the hops. there's malt there, it's just nondescript.
I'm enjoying this, more than I expected to. The hops are on point, and the high alcohol without any real malt character to balance it just makes enjoyment less than it could be otherwise. It's not the ridiculous "hop juice" of some of the session IPAs out there but I can't help but feel it needs some time. Yet I can't age it into anything smoother. Close to greatness...
if I were making this I'd age it cool for probably a year, THEN dry hop it and bottle, just like I'd treat a big English IPA.
08-19-2013 21:06:17 | More by udubdawg
District of Columbia
4.14/5 rDev +5.1%
On draft at Rustico in Ballston.
The beer is golden and clear with a small white head. The aroma is easily
the best aspect of the beer. Lovely fresh hops with a strong German presence. The flavor is an interesting marriage of the two. Alcohol presence well disguised. A solid offering. A unique beer. I would have this again.
08-19-2013 20:29:45 | More by Huhzubendah
3.98/5 rDev +1%
Deconstructing the German Lager, rearranging its pieces and putting it back together is what has happened to Stone's latest birthday beer. Its proportions now resemble the more recognizable Imperial IPA.
Bright gold in its appearance, the beer is stuck between the bolder look of Bohemian Pilsners or Dortmunder Lagers and lighter Pale Ale. Void of any haze, the ale gleams with straw highlights. Its steady carbonated streams build a froathy white head that easily outlasts the session and laces delicately with every sip.
Spicy and floral, the nose it front and center with Noble hop character. Woven together with honey-type malt aromas, the scent rounds into a wonderful honeysuckle note. Still, a background of spiciness is earthy, grassy, and tea-like. Its rustic and raw sweet scent tugs at the nose in much the same manner as freshly hung tobacco.
Thin caramel, honey, crusted and doughy sweetness greets the front of the mouth, just ahead of the soft fruitiness of hops. But as the middle palate develops, the malt sweetness is easily overtaken by the grassy, spiciness of those Noble German cones before a sharp and resinous bitterness builds in its finish. It's a stright-forward dialogue of hop dominance and malt support- just like American IPA. But uncharacteristic lager flavor and fauna are used instead of those more typical pale characteristics.
Medium-full on the palate, the texture is dry, racy and spicy- particularly after its short-lived sweetness runs its course. This leaves the finish with grassy chlorophyl-full astringency, spicy warmth and sharp crispness. Its a refreshing ale despite its peppery bite.
The beer might be just as well an Imperial Pilsner that utilizes the full 70 IBUs that IPA enjoys. Its a fantastic way to celebrate a very Cali-Bavarian 17th birthday!
08-19-2013 20:24:47 | More by BEERchitect
4.59/5 rDev +16.5%
A- It appears a clear golden color and has a very nice head retention.
S-Here it begins. It has a nice piney, green, and almost spicy aroma. Clean, smells tasty.
T- It has a nice finish. The flavor is hop forward and full of a bitterness which lingers as it finishes with a vanilla bite. Nice pint.
M- The mouthfeel is medium light and right in line with the characteristics of the style.
O- A nice Imperial IPA. I'd be interested in the malt components, but they really would take away from the hop character of the style if pronounced any more. They nailed it.
08-19-2013 20:10:56 | More by BeerAficionadoMCMXC
4.05/5 rDev +2.8%
Thanks to BA wishuwerebeer for sharing this bomber. Poured into a matching Stone pint glass, the brew appears a clear copper coloe with a white finger of head. Spotty to pathy lace sticks to the glass as the cap fades.
The smell is herbal and almost minty with hops. It is somewhat dank and grassy with a mild alcohol inclusion that blends to give it almost a tropical fruit feel to the nose. Overall nicely done.
The flavor is bitter and rindy with pith and zesty fruit components. The more I sip on this, the more catty the hops become with a very faint grain presence across the back.
This is a medium bodied brew with a modest amount of carbonation. It is crisp and awesome. I would have liked to have seen some of that tropical aroma transcribe over to the taste but no complaints here. I wouldnt mind having this again.
08-19-2013 14:36:04 | More by stakem
3.4/5 rDev -13.7%
Pours a nice, pale gold. Quite clear, filtered. Medium white head. Some lacing and decent retention. The aroma has a lot of floral hops with some grass, herbal and light citric notes. Interesting minty edge to the hops. There's also a fair bit of sugary caramel malt, more than I'd like. It's sweet and perfumey. Everything seems rather sweet, and the sugary malt just pushes it all over the edge for me. The taste is similar. Lots of floral, herbal-dominant hops with bready, caramel-y, sugary malt. I like the sweet hop flavor, but the malt sweetness seems to throw if off balance. It's sweet on sweet. Somewhat cloying. There's little hop bitterness, just a light pine resin bite in the finish. The mouthfeel is not too heavy for the abv, but it's fuller than I normally like in the style. Fairly slick. Overall, I'm not a big fan, and unfortunately, it's not getting better as it warms. With a drier malt character, I think this would be much improved.
08-19-2013 04:35:14 | More by popery
17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA from Stone Brewing Co.
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