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Aigre (Sour) Plead The 5th - Dark Horse Brewing Company

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76 Ratings
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Ratings: 76
Reviews: 18
rAvg: 3.8
pDev: 13.68%
Wants: 43
Gots: 24 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Dark Horse Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  ABV ?

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 12-29-2010

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Ratings: 76 | Reviews: 18
Photo of Sammy
3.95/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

An imperial stout at heart, with sourness that is bretty in the finish. Roast aroma. Very undercarbonated, despite a cork that took Shwartzneiger work to remove. Very dark brown without a head. Middling and smooth mouthfeel.Liam’s bottle, thanks for sharing.

Photo of spycow
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.51/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours an opaque black with a foamy dark khaki head that fades to nothing. No lacing on the drink down. Smell is sour with dark roasted malt, cocoa, acidic, and funk aromas. Taste is much the same with slightly sour cocoa and funk flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness and acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with an almost flat mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is tasty but could use more carbonation in my opinion.

Photo of zestar
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

Photo of GRG1313
3.75/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of Thorpe429
3.94/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to TurdFurgison for opening this bottle at the post-Christmas Chicago tasting. Served in a Cantillon tulip.

Pours a pretty dark brown with a minimal amount of light foam on the top of the beer without too much else there. The nose is pretty good. There really isn't all that much sourness. I would think this has to have been accidentally infected, as I was curious about the concept to begin with and this doesn't seem like it was intentionally soured. Who knows. Some chocolate and roast there as well as a bit of woody character.

The taste again shows no sourness but does have a good dose of wood and chocolate. Very nice roast there as well. The mouthfeel is pretty good. It is somewhat thick and the barrel character works well. Pretty drinkable, though. Interesting, but I still don't really see the point of this one.

Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks for this bottle, Derek.

Pours nearly black in color with a small khaki head. Starts off with fairly regular stout aromas such as roasted malt, coffee, and some vanilla from the oak. The vinegar and sourness come through toward the back end. It also has an interesting grass aroma. Tastes a bit more sour than it smells, but still lots of roasted malt and a hint of coffee. The oak flavor is there and provides a slightly drying tannic feel to the beer. A decent amount of vinegar, but not overly acetic. There is even a touch of fruit on the palate.

Photo of JAHMUR
4.25/5  rDev +11.8%

Photo of MasterSki
4.17/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to TurdFurgison for sharing. Not sure why sour is written in French. This IS also bourbon-barrel aged, but there is no mention of this on the label.

A - Cap came off really easily - hope this wasn't due to them frantically bottling this to have it ready for the incredibly disorganized release party. In any case, pours with almost no head - only some big, dark reddish mocha bubbles that dissipate quickly. Still black body with some brown at the fringes.

S - Lots of vanilla and butterscotch, as well as some lactic notes. Not very sour at all. Some oak and spicy booze. This is all in addition to the standard earthy dark roasted grain and cocoa character of Plead the 5th.

T - I can almost crib my notes from Bourbon Barrel Plead the 5th - "The taste is quite excellent, with a hefty amount of dark roasted grain, caramel, vanilla, butterscotch, and other sweet things. Again, the bourbon makes its presence known through barrel flavors and depth, rather than in-your-face harsh whiskey." No obvious sourness - just a buttery note that is evocative of English stouts. Still quite delicious in any case.

M - Very low carbonation, smooth full body, sticky finish. While I don't know the exact ABV, I'm assuming it's similar to the 14-15% quoted for the non-sour variety, in which case it is masterfully hidden. Could use more carbonation, but for the style it's not a big problem to have carbonation this low.

D - This just doesn't seem very different from Bourbon Barrel Plead the 5th, other than a slight buttery, lactic note. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Needs more bubbles too.

My advice - check the cap (and re-crimp if you have the proper tools). Then sit on this for 6-12 months to see if it sours up. Drink the regular Bourbon Barrel Plead the 5th, as it seems to be ready to go right out of the gate.

Photo of mdfb79
4/5  rDev +5.3%

Photo of imperialking
4/5  rDev +5.3%

Photo of nathanmiller
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of mothman
4.2/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a fizzy dark tan head. Color is a deep black.

Aroma: Pretty much plead the fifth flavors with a noticeable cherry flavors. A little bit of bourbon showing through.

Taste: Sour Pt5. It is very unique. Sour cherries combined with bourbon, chocolate, caramel, coffee and roasted malts.

Mouthfeel: Sour and roasted. Full bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends dry and roasted.

Overall, this beer may be better than regular Pt5. It is very tasty. Reminds me of a cherry ris.

Photo of Gonzoillini
4/5  rDev +5.3%

Photo of Zaphog
3.75/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of HopHead84
3.62/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5


Bottle shared by Carlos (Seaoflament) at Lost Abbey's 5th anniversary. Thanks!

A: Nondescript. Pitch black with really no head. Pretty much still.

S: Dark chocolate with plum, grape, and a mild lactic sourness. It seems like this was unintentionally infected. Not bad though. Lightly roasted with some oak and vanilla. Not much evident booze.

T: The flavor is better than the aroma. Dark chocolate integrates well with sour cherry and plum. Lightly roasted with a big lactic presence. Mild booze with oak in the finish.

M: Flat and full in body. Smooth and sticky mouthfeel.

Overall: An interesting beer that was enjoyable. I definitely prefer the base beer though.

Photo of Dicers
3.08/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Photo of liamt07
3.96/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottle from buzze40, 750ml into a tulip. Batch 32057, bottle 156 of 304. Insanely tough cork to remove.

Black with a light tan head, without any lace or retention. Nose of black cherries, chocolate, some roast, light oak and general berry aromas. Taste has roast, dark fruits, a mild sourness, tart berries and dark chocolate. Light body for the style, and perhaps on the flatter side of things in terms of carbonation. Regardless, this has disguised the alcohol substantially and was still pretty decent.

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4/5  rDev +5.3%

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.09/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I picked up a few bottles of this at the Dark Horse 4elf party this year, opened my first one at a post-Christmas tasting in Chicago.

Apparently the cap came off with very little effort, a dangerous sign for those that will be shipped (and I've already shipped one to Colorado!). Little carbonation though, I wonder if the cap would hold against a more vigorous beer.

It poured a dark and opaque brown, very few bubbles on top. It presented the same on tap at the release, very little head. On the nose this doesn't seem sour per se, but I do get a little oak along with the roasted malts and light chocolate. Dark fruits too, raisins and plums, that sort of thing.

It tastes like a lightly barrel aged RIS, not really like a sour beer. In time I hope to hear how this was made, maybe the bugs haven't done their work yet. It did taste good though, just not in the ways I expected. Cocoa, toffee, molasses, other sweet stout flavors, also a light touch of booze (bourbon I guess), I liked the flavors but kept searching for something more tart to present itself.

Very little carb, giving a creamy and thick-feeling body. It feels like a big beer, which it is. I've got one bottle left, and probably I'll hold it for a while in case there are bugs trying to do their thing (not sure how active they'll be in the bottle though).

Photo of jrallen34
3.89/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Eric for busting out this rarity...Light black that still has brown on the edge. Hardly any carbonation...The aroma is super buttery, actually pretty good. Vanilla, cocoa, roast, but not sour...More butter on the taste, bourbon shows itself off now. Complex notes of vanilla, bourbon, caramel. Pretty good, but again no sour.

This is a decent barrel aged beer, but seems to leave you wanting more as its advertised as sour and you don't get any. Super rare but I wouldn't trade much to get it. Maybe it will be sour over time.

Photo of tectactoe
3.5/5  rDev -7.9%

Photo of AgentZero
4/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to TurdFurgison for sharing this one at a tasting in Chicago.

A - Dark brown beer that get close to black when it's out of the light. Little bit of tan head, nothing really left on the sides.

S - Vanilla, roast, some chocolate, there's really not a ton of sour on this one. honestly not sure exctly where they were going with this one as sour doesn't seem present.

T - Some butter, roast, vanilla, there's a bit of bourbon. Just a slight bit o wood with some caramel, still not really getting any of the sour on this, but as far as a barrel aged stout goes it's solid.

M - Full bodied, lower carbonation, very smooth.

O - Decent barrel aged RIS, but it's not fantastic and it's not sour. Decent beer, but somewhat confusing.

Photo of 4DAloveofSTOUT
3.97/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

tried this beer this on saturday nite with some friends! Thanks for bringing it out Jeff!

reviewed from notes.

Appearance: black bodied beer with an almost nonexistant head.

Smell: bourbon and chocolates. Maybe some subtle sour smell here.

Taste: Bourbon sweetness and big impy stout flavors of coffee, vanilla, and chocolate. Midtaste you get a mild to moderate sour taste that actually works well with in this big stout. Finish is still a bit sour and no booze is in the finish.

Mouthfeel: high end of medium bodied beer with low carbonation. This beer has a really slick and oily feel to it.

Overall: This is a really interesting beer. Really breaks the mold of how beer can taste. Great creativity by Dark Horse on this beer! Its interesting how a beer can be both sweet and sour at the same time!

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4.5/5  rDev +18.4%

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Aigre (Sour) Plead The 5th from Dark Horse Brewing Company
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