Dark Horse Too Cream Stout - Dark Horse Brewing Company

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Reviews: 412
Hads: 1,076
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 9.77%
Wants: 72
Gots: 121 | FT: 3
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Dark Horse Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

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Beer added by: Mitchster on 02-05-2003

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Photo of cserrato02
2.07/5  rDev -46.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.25

Great roasted, malted aroma. However, it is overly roasted and bitter in flavor. It's not creamy or milky at all. Somewhat disappointed in the overall product. (159 characters)

Photo of DragonzBreath
2.51/5  rDev -35.5%
look: 4 | smell: 1.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

We found this too bitter to have again. We enjoy the look...black and silky. The pour and Look in the glass is of the utmost important to us.
Rich, dark coffee hits your tongue as slide down bitter, while taking all your saliva with it. Upon swallowing, the strange odor attacks. Rich, heavy stout. (300 characters)

Photo of radioscooter
2.53/5  rDev -35%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Too smoky and burnt for a cream/milk stout. Not remotely sweet. Very rauchy. (smoky)

Did I mention burnt, and smoky?

Okay, it looks pretty good. Great froth and the color is jet black with coffee head.

But the first sip is riduculously dry and bitter for a cream stout. YES, there are lactaids here. But it's overshadowed by the coffee, dry bitterness.

Embrace if you like coffee porters or really dry stouts. A great example of either a dry stout, Java porter, coffee stout etc.. Just not a cream stout. It's just classified poorly.

Not a fan. (550 characters)

Photo of tayner
2.55/5  rDev -34.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle

poured black with a small chocolate colored head that faded fast and left nothing, no bubbles, no lacing, no nothing. looks like coffee in my cup. not appealing as a beer really

smells a tad smoking, roasted malts, and some sour coffee smell.

Taste is of a peat flavor, some smoke, and roasted malt. some bitter chocolate at the finish but flavor is dominantly that strange peat flavor which i did not expect for a milk stout.

Mouthfeel is okay on this one.. the milk makes it creamy, but it lacks any sort of carbonation to make it easy to drink.

I cant drink anymore of these. this is less than impressive, and barely toleralble for me. Perhaps if the carbonation were better it would be easier to drink. (727 characters)

Photo of aasher
2.56/5  rDev -34.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

This bottle poured an oily black with a little head to start but it quickly died off. It's the weakest of their stout series in terms of appearance (One through 5th). The aromas are of a lot of coffee, some chocolate and then this moldy like funk. This milk stout is smelly fishy. It almost has some oak or smoke like qualities (but nothing like the Fore). It's a turn off. The flavor is strange too. There's a lot of smoke and this weird spin on lactic acid. It kind of has this burnt bacon aspect to it as well. At least its silky smooth and the alcohol is well hidden. This beer, in my opinion, is the weakest of their stout series. I don't know what went wrong. (665 characters)

Photo of MDekker
2.72/5  rDev -30.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

In general, I'm not a fan of cream stouts, as opposed to other stouts, but this one really failed me big time:

A: Pours out jet black with almost no head. What little does materialize is quite brown in color.

S: Coffee, dark chocolate, and creamy smells. Not bad.

T: Not much TOO it. Flavors similar to the aromatic notes, but not enough of them. I wanted more from this. Balance is OK.

M: Here's where it all fell apart - practically no carbonation, with no thickness to compensate for it. Just way TOO watery, so it ended up like drinking stale Coke. Blah.

D: I couldn't finish it. Bummer. (606 characters)

Photo of alcstradamus
2.75/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Nice looking black pour with a small dark brown head. Smell is rich caramel and roasted maltiness with a distinct dairy sweetness. A bit of citrus seems to be floating around as well as some vanilla and cocoa.

Taste is odd, and actually quite off-putting. The sweetness is a killer, and there is also a metallic note that is just poor. Not feeling this one at all. Mouthfeel is medium bodied. Not drinkable, this one is a chore to drink. (438 characters)

Photo of PEBKAC
2.76/5  rDev -29%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle from Liquor World in Cambridge, Mass. I no can has mixed six pack. :/

Sam Adams PP glass. Rich, dark, toffee-colored head. Inky black body.

Smell is composed of burnt toast, charred greasy bits, just a bit of coffee roast, & even less lactose.

Taste is bitter-sharp bark/char/ash/soot. Toasty malt & a squirt of cola desperately try to add some semblance of sweetness. Earthy. Not very enthusiastic about this one.

Solid carbonation, ashy/grainy feel. Average alcohol. A bit thin for the style, but that doesn't make it easy.

Bleh. (543 characters)

Photo of gford217
2.76/5  rDev -29%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle courtesy of StFun poured into a tulip.

Pours pitch black with a short-lived mocha head that recedes to a ring leaving very little lacing. Aroma is mostly roasted malts with a hint of lactose in the form of bakers chocolate. The taste has a coffee bitterness up front before giving way to a substantial burnt malt backbone. The finish brings back the bitterness, but in a pretty unpleasant chalky way. The mouthfeel is a tad watery with very little carbonation. This is a pretty average stout and not as enjoyable as the first in the series for me. I'm hoping for more with the rest of the series. (604 characters)

Photo of jmarsh123
2.81/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours black with a light tan head that dissipates quickly.

Smells of chocolate, roasted malts and has a distinct smokiness. Just a touch of lactose sweetness despite being a milk stout.

Roasty malt at the forefront. Some smoke (maybe a bit too much) before finishing earthy and dry. Again not a lot of lactose to the taste.

A bit thin for my liking with medium carbonation.

Not a big fan of this one. The smoke flavor overwhelms a bit and the good creaminess of the milk stout is missing. (492 characters)

Photo of shredder83
2.9/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours jet black with a thin ring of caramel colored head that dissipates very quickly, no lacing and poor retention

Roasty/burnt malts, oatmeal, chocolate and sweet

Roasty burnt malt, a slight hint of chocolate and coffee. Bitter finish and slightly sweet throughout.

Medium-light and not as creamy as the name suggests.

This is my first review and I felt it had to be for this cream stout because this one was very disappointing. I rarely ever drainpour anything but this one lasted just enough sips to review. Very light body for a cream stout and not nearly sweet enough, the bitterness of the roasted malts and hops drowned out the sweetness a cream stout should have. The smell was present but not strong enough at first smell. Not well done, I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who likes milk/sweet/cream stouts. (823 characters)

Photo of jmalex
2.97/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Received as part of the Triple Trouble BIF from the guys from Cincinnati.

APPEARANCE: Pours into a tulip-style pint glass a deep black. Surprisingly, no head forms at all. Despite a vigorous pour, only a few bubbles even form, let alone stay and hold.

SMELL: Very big with an overwhelming sweetness. Dark chocolate and coffee come on strong with a little bit of dark fruit and alcohol lurking behind.

TASTE: As expected, much milder and sweeter in flavor. A light roastiness cuts through an otherwise fruity, milky beer. It almost toes the line between lactic and sour, but isn't quite there. The finish is very empty, lacking any flavor.

MOUTHFEEL: Whoa, this is insanely underwhelming. It's really watery and barely carbonated at all. And the body isn't even that big either. Disappointing.

DRINKABILITY: Not the best. The low carbonation kills it and probably dulls the flavors considerably.

Well, you can't win 'em all. I'd definitely seek out something else. (969 characters)

Photo of RidiculedDisplay
2.99/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

Thanks to RoyMunson for the bottle.

Poured into a nonic pint glass.

Appearance: An unremarkable stout pour. Initially has a brown/tan froth in the middle of the surface, but that quickly fades to black (get it? lolzzz). The body itself is a rather unremarkable stout color. There is no lacing. Bleh.

Smell: A slight medicinal quality almost makes this bad, but it seems to transform, strangely, into a pleasing nuttiness after some more pulls. Slight cream, milk chocolates with some semisweet, slight cherries. Decent. Not much coffee to speak of.

Taste: Porter-ish flavor, honestly, that isn't appropriate for the style. Slight lactose-like flavor which is, however, appropriate. Coffee on the back end. Cherries again, sort of like Sucrets. Okay.

Mouthfeel: Flat. Thin.

Drinkability: Not undrinkable by any means, but this is not a very nuanced or remarkable beer, even for a session. (893 characters)

Photo of jwinship83
3.03/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

6.5% abv says the brewer

A- black body with a thin layer of coffee colored head.

S- sweetness, roasted malts. not much else

T- roasted malt upfront with a mildly hoppy/coffee finish. some sweetness in here too

M- medium bodied and pretty smooth.

D- meh, one bottle is enough. maybe my hopes for dark horse were high, but this one didnt impress me. its pretty basic. nothing offense about it, but nothing to make it stand out either. (438 characters)

Photo of Riccymon
3.04/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours from the bottle a fizzy, impenetrable black with not even enough head to cover the surface of the beer. This apperance is not completely unexpected, but it's still a little weak for the style. Smell has a fairly strong, complex smokey note on top of roasty malt, and I'm really enjoying it.

Following the nose, the taste and mouthfeel are a bit of a letdown. While the sweet malt, lactic flavor, and nutty aftertaste (think porter-like) are quite tasty, a slightly salty, mineral flavor that comes later isn't that palatable. Body is moderate and to style, but something about the mouthfeel makes for an astringent finish that I dislike.

This beer had some ups and downs for me, and overall I found it to be just an average milk stout. If I were around Michigan, I think I'd opt for Bell's Special Double Cream nine times out of ten. (843 characters)

Photo of karst
3.11/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

My third of the series - One, Too, & Tres.

Pours black and raises a brief 3 - 5 mm of fine head that quickly falls to naked black disk of black with new blubbles unable to sustain the thinest ring. Aroma inviting and similar to the anonymous fruit found in the flavor. Round mouthfeel with a little more body than most stouts. Roasty flavors combine with sweet chocolate and light caramel with that haunting unnamed fruit.

Initially unpleasent bitternes becomming less objectional as you become accustomed to its astringence. I can't figure out the hops which provide a functional IBU level. Swirl bring up a burst of bubbles. More efferescent that you would suspect from the brief head. This helps the finish - as the roasted flavors fade.

I am hoping to visit this brewery soon and get beer fresh from the tap. This trio was from Corral Liquors Granite City, Ill. (878 characters)

Photo of brian44556
3.11/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Poured a 12 oz bottle, no date, into a snifter. Served at 55 degrees.

A - Dark, small chocolate head that fades rather quickly. Little lacing left on the sides of the glass. Looks flat after sitting for a couple of minutes.

S - Roasted malts, hint of chocolate, maybe a slight touch of coffee.

T - Roasted malts, bitter chocolate, 2 day old coffee.

M - Thin, sufficient carbonation, crisp.

O - Meh...This one didn't wow me by any means, not sweet enough. There are many other better examples of the style out there. I enjoy a lot of Dark Horse beers, just not this one. (579 characters)

Photo of byteme94
3.12/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Got this as an extra...

Poured into a Dogfish head snifter. Poured on the thinner side with a one finger quickly diminishing head. Decent nose of roasted malts, bit of choc and coffee. Enjoyed my beer but felt it was a little bit overly roasted, alcohol was well hidden. This drinks like a coffee my girlfriend makes me w/o instructions = a kinda acidic, lightly sweet, thin and weak coffee. Graded on a harder scale than most, I would give it a C+. (450 characters)

Photo of TheBear11D
3.12/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Appearance is very dark black with a smal creamy dark brown head that faded very quickly.

Smells of strong coffee, chocolate and a hint of cream.

Tastes of strong cream filled coffee and syrup. Mildly sweet start that fades to a mediocrely bitter end.

Mouthfeel is thick but not overly thick with very little carbonation.

Unimpressive drinkability. Carbonation leaves beer somewhat lacking. (394 characters)

Photo of benito
3.14/5  rDev -19.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

From a single bought at Cloverleaf.

A: A vigorous pour produces nothing more than a fizzy, thin head. Otherwise it's oil black and leaves the glass unfazed...no lacing, no swirls, nothing.

S: Sweet, with lots of creme brulee and rosewood.

T: Good espresso sweetness up front, almost marshmallowy, followed by a burnt, bitter bite toward the end and a peppery, dry finish. The second half of this isn't at all what I would have expected from a cream stout. But the initial flavor is spot on. What happens halfway through? Why? The flavors themselves aren't inoffensive or inappropriate (in fact, I enjoy a slightly bitter finish to an otherwise sweet stout). But the transition is sudden and jarring.

M and D: A little thin, but it has a good length of flavor. Very easy to cruise through a pint or two of this.

Overall, this is a fine, if unexceptional stout from Dark Horse. It's a moderately bitter sweet stout with all the right elements, but they don't really come together all that well. (1,007 characters)

Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.16/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured in to a brandy snifter

A - Dark black in colour; thick, with very little carbonation. Very small amounts of medium brown head.

S - Roasted malts with some sweet molasses

T - A lot of sweetness up front. Roasted malts with some specific coffee flavour.

M - Medium body, smotth. Low carbonation.

D - very sweet. Only had a half bottle and don't think I could get through a full bottle. Too much sweetness for me. (424 characters)

Photo of Morbo
3.19/5  rDev -18%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours pitch black with a tiny dark brown head that is reduced to a ring in a minute and leaves no lacing behind.

Nose is sweet milk chocolate, cookie dough, and roasted malt with hints of vanilla and black cherry in the background.

Creamy bittersweet chocolate upfront with coffee bitterness in the drying finish, everything seems kind of muted compared to the nose.

The body is on the light end of medium, not quite what I was expecting but the lactose and low level of carbonation make for a pretty smooth sipper.

This is a fairly enjoyable brew, but I couldn't see drinking more than a couple without wanting to go onto something else with a bit more complexity in flavor. Perhaps with a little more carbonation the rich flavors hinted at in the nose could really come through. (784 characters)

Photo of mightyjoemoon
3.21/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

dark horse too is somewhat of a mixed bag. on the pour it fails to produce any head but on the plus side its one of the darkest stouts i've seen. even while holding it up to direct light its completely pitch black. the nose is roasted malts, graham crackers, and faintly alcoholic. in the mouth its very thin, very still, and has little if any aftertaste... for a cream stout i'd expect a bit more creamy-ness but fortunately it isn't overly sweet. you could definitely drink alot of these and they weren't expensive (8 for 6 i believe). if you're new to stouts you might enjoy this for its mildness. (600 characters)

Photo of spointon
3.21/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I poured this one form a 12oz brown bottle into a tulip pint glass.

A= This stout poured a deep dark black/brown with no light penetration and a thin cola colored highlight around the edges. With a damn near crazy-hard pour, the head rose about 1/16" and then disappeared in 20 seconds. No lace.

S= This beer smelled of roasted/coffee notes and a bit of malty sweetness. Not a lot going on in the aroma department here.

T= I found base malt sweetness, followed by a big punch of dark roasted grain and coffee. Around 2/3 of the way through there is a hint of the milky sweetness indicated by the style, but it continues to be overwhelmed by the roastiness all the way through the finish.

MF= Heavier bodied with a very crisp carbonation level for the style. Almost too crisp.

D= This isn't a terrible beer, it just isn't that great either. Still, the coffee maltiness is sort of interesting if you forget that it is supposed to be sweet. Probably not something I will buy again. (983 characters)

Photo of confer
3.21/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the Tap and Table.
Poured in a tulip glass. No head whatsoever deep brown and completley opaque. I am pretty sure of the color but with only candlelight at the T&T I can't be positive. I did hold a candle to the back of the glass and the only light was what reflected around the sides of the glass, nothing through the middle.
I think I should have let this beer set for 30 minutes because everything was better as it warmed. The smell and taste were both overly smokey when the beer was cold. As it warmed the smoke disappeared and a sweet dark fruit flavor started. The sweet flavor and smell were both good. The beer had a nice creamy feel with no carbonation at all.
As I said this beer is drinkable as it warms. (727 characters)

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