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Dark Horse Too Cream Stout - Dark Horse Brewing Company

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Dark Horse Too Cream StoutDark Horse Too Cream Stout

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BA SCORE
88
very good

973 Ratings
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Ratings: 973
Reviews: 401
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 10.28%
Wants: 66
Gots: 93 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Dark Horse Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Mitchster on 02-05-2003)
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Photo of DousedInStout
3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

The beer poured black, and the brown head/lacing disippated quite quickly. The smell was a mixture of bitter roastness and sweet lactose. The taste seemed a little too sweet, milk chocolatey and kind of one-noted. It doesn't linger after your sip. Not much complexity, and the body was a bit weaker than anticipated. A slightly above average example of the style - drinkable and enjoyable.

Photo of Bung
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nearly black pour with a light brown head. Nice roasty aromas, small amount of milk chocolate. Full bodied smooth mouthfeel, nearly creamy. Heavy roasted malt and coffee but balanced with a bit of chocolate milk. Finishes with just a hint of bitterness. I thought this was excellent, but I seem to like many brews I've had of this style. This like the other top of the style really balance out the sweetness, which makes them have a nice amount of complexity.

Photo of prototypic
4.33/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to hoppymeal for the bottle. Getting Michigan beer like this is always a treat.

Appearance: It's very dark brown in color. No light is getting through, giving it a near black appearance. The head is a very attractive dark mocha brown color. It was very quick to disappear and left a light web of lace on the glass. Very close to awarding the next highest score here.

Smell: The nose is good, but a little lacking in strength. It's stacked with roasted malts. That much is apparent. Smells like there's a touch of chocolate malts in there, as well. A nice coffee/espresso aroma really complements the malts well. I'm not picking up anything suggesting lactose and it doesn't smell all that sweet. Relatively odd given the style. Nice smelling beer nonetheless.

Taste: Interesting role reversal here. Coffee or espresso comes across as the strongest flavor here. I'm a coffee fan and it's damn tasty. Roasted malts are secondary to the coffee flavor, but are very strong and flavorful. Light chocolate malts are noted, but they're not exactly sweet. These flavors work in tandem very well. Again, I'm having a somewhat difficult time going along with the milk/sweet stout label. It's just not very sweet. Not even close. But, it is a very tasty beer in any event. No alcohol is noted. I'm unsure of what the abv is on this one. Finishes a little dry with some light chocolate bitterness.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: It's on the light side of medium bodied. It's smooth, but could use a little more body. Carbonation is relaxed and doesn't get in the way. Drinkability is very good. It's very flavorful, goes down too easy, and doesn't present itself as a big beer in terms of abv. Again, I'm unclear on the specific abv number.

Too is a very, very good beer. I've got a small qualm with the style label. Irrespective of that, it is a good beer. I think it could use a little improvement on the nose and it would benefit from a thicker body. Small complaints. Damn good beer that's well worth seeking out.

Photo of Buebie
4.45/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz brown bottle without freshness date.
Went into an oversized snifter. Poured black and inky, no light penetration at all.
Dark as hell head with a fluffy 2 finger head.
Spotty streaks of lace line the glass. Big ol' sediment cake left at the bottom of the bottle.
Weirdo design as usual on the lable.

Slight boozy aroma at the knose. Dark semi-sweet chocolate, cocoa nib nuttieness, sweet carmalised malt.
Lightly smoked oaky aromas.

Mild carbonation up front masking the real weight of this beer. As the carbonation melts away, the thickness of this beer comes through, and yes its thick, like a beer milkshake.
Reminds me of a reduction sauce mixed with white flour.
Its rich and creamy with a great big semi-sweet chocolaty flavor. Definatly some lactose in here bringing a mellow smothness to the beer and a thick creamy texture.
The finish is long on chocolate and silky smooth texture.

This is so damn good, highly recommend.

Photo of waltonc
3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Black with a little bit of dark tan head, but not much.
S: Typical lactose sugar smell dominates, which I'm a big fan of.
T: Taste is a little bit mediocre in my view. As others have noted, this is a fine enough milk stout, but doesn't really stand out. Dark roasted malts, sweet and creamy.
M: Medium body; Carbonation is a tiny bit lacking, but soft carbonation is present.

Photo of snaotheus
3.78/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a pretty good beer, but not exceptional. It tastes like a quality cream stout ought to taste (sweet and stouty), but doesn't have anything to make it really stand out.

It's hard to rate a stout's appearance as anything other than "good", because they're all pretty similar aside from traits like head and lacing.

Speaking of which, this beer has little head or lacing.

I would consider using this beer to introduce people to darker beers (although I'd take Left Hand first), and I wouldn't complain about drinking these for an evening, but it wouldn't be my first choice.

Photo of zeff80
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured out a syrupy black color with almost no head (not unusual from Dark Horse). No lacing.

S - It smelled very sweet. Good notes of toffee, molasses and some chocolate.

T - Tasted of milk chocolate, sweet caramel malt and some toffee. It had a subtle vanilla kick.

M - This was soft and creamy. A medium bodied beer.

D - This is a very tasty brew. A sweet and delicious milk stout.

Photo of TheBear11D
3.13/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Appearance is very dark black with a smal creamy dark brown head that faded very quickly.

Smells of strong coffee, chocolate and a hint of cream.

Tastes of strong cream filled coffee and syrup. Mildly sweet start that fades to a mediocrely bitter end.

Mouthfeel is thick but not overly thick with very little carbonation.

Unimpressive drinkability. Carbonation leaves beer somewhat lacking.

Photo of roadhouse
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass.

Appearance is pitch black like all the other holiday stouts with a two inch thick tan head. Holds up for a while before sinking down to a centimeter thick cap. A very small amount of lacing is left behind.

The aroma is chocolaty with a bit of a vinous character to it. Some coffee in there as well.

The taste is a full on milk chocolate explosion, the vinous character has been reduced and comes across as a bit of a berry-like dark fruit character. It's not overly sweet but lactose comes across slightly. Some coffee flavor coming through towards the finish.

Mouthfeel is medium in body, very creamy and soft on the palate.

Overall it's my least favorite of the holiday stout series but it's still pretty good. Not the best cream stout but it's a solid choice.

Photo of Morbo
3.15/5  rDev -19%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours pitch black with a tiny dark brown head that is reduced to a ring in a minute and leaves no lacing behind.

Nose is sweet milk chocolate, cookie dough, and roasted malt with hints of vanilla and black cherry in the background.

Creamy bittersweet chocolate upfront with coffee bitterness in the drying finish, everything seems kind of muted compared to the nose.

The body is on the light end of medium, not quite what I was expecting but the lactose and low level of carbonation make for a pretty smooth sipper.

This is a fairly enjoyable brew, but I couldn't see drinking more than a couple without wanting to go onto something else with a bit more complexity in flavor. Perhaps with a little more carbonation the rich flavors hinted at in the nose could really come through.

Photo of jwinship83
3.03/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

6.5% abv says the brewer

A- black body with a thin layer of coffee colored head.

S- sweetness, roasted malts. not much else

T- roasted malt upfront with a mildly hoppy/coffee finish. some sweetness in here too

M- medium bodied and pretty smooth.

D- meh, one bottle is enough. maybe my hopes for dark horse were high, but this one didnt impress me. its pretty basic. nothing offense about it, but nothing to make it stand out either.

Photo of scruffwhor
4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Even the purest light cannot penetrate this creamy beer's pitch black exterior. Just a small brown film of suds after the pour that diminishes to nothing very quickly. Very dark roasted aroma. Brings to mind black coffee from 7-11, but with a touch of milk poured in. Well roasted, rich flavored Kona coffe starts the taste of right. Then add some very rich, milk straight from the cows udder. Very raw, creamy texture. Just a little sweetness added to this bitter roasted, black as night malt bomb.

Photo of mightyjoemoon
3.2/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

dark horse too is somewhat of a mixed bag. on the pour it fails to produce any head but on the plus side its one of the darkest stouts i've seen. even while holding it up to direct light its completely pitch black. the nose is roasted malts, graham crackers, and faintly alcoholic. in the mouth its very thin, very still, and has little if any aftertaste... for a cream stout i'd expect a bit more creamy-ness but fortunately it isn't overly sweet. you could definitely drink alot of these and they weren't expensive (8 for 6 i believe). if you're new to stouts you might enjoy this for its mildness.

Photo of tedpeer
3.63/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz poured into a pint

A - Poured black, with a half inch mocha head that quickly disappeared. No lacing.

S - A sweet roasted smell.

T - Roasted then burnt malt. Slightly bitter finish.

M - Watery, little carbonation.

For a cream stout, this is not real sweet.

Photo of jmalex
2.95/5  rDev -24.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Received as part of the Triple Trouble BIF from the guys from Cincinnati.

APPEARANCE: Pours into a tulip-style pint glass a deep black. Surprisingly, no head forms at all. Despite a vigorous pour, only a few bubbles even form, let alone stay and hold.

SMELL: Very big with an overwhelming sweetness. Dark chocolate and coffee come on strong with a little bit of dark fruit and alcohol lurking behind.

TASTE: As expected, much milder and sweeter in flavor. A light roastiness cuts through an otherwise fruity, milky beer. It almost toes the line between lactic and sour, but isn't quite there. The finish is very empty, lacking any flavor.

MOUTHFEEL: Whoa, this is insanely underwhelming. It's really watery and barely carbonated at all. And the body isn't even that big either. Disappointing.

DRINKABILITY: Not the best. The low carbonation kills it and probably dulls the flavors considerably.

Well, you can't win 'em all. I'd definitely seek out something else.

Photo of younger35
4.05/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Received this brew from aqsprint as an extra in a recent trade. So far I've really enjoyed what Dark Horse has to offer. Drank from my Ithaca Excelsior tulip.

Appearance- Black as a beer could possibly get. A quarter finger dark brown head forms and recedes as quickly. A super thin collar is all that is left including zero lacing.
Smell- Gobs of sweet milk chocolate just ooze out of the glass. Cocoa and Tootsie Rolls make this thing smell good enough to eat! (Or drink!) Plenty of vanilla and even touches of licorice really make this a fantastically great nose!
Taste- Loads of roasted malt that add a gritty bitterness from the char on the malt. Not as sweet or lactic as I was expecting. I was thinking Hershey's Bar and this is more bakers chocolate. Cocoa nibs, molassas and even hits of coffee every-now-and-again come through as this thing is just bursting with flavor. The roasted bitterness stays with ya for quite some time way through the finish.
Mouthfeel- Thinner than I'd like it to be with very soft carbonation that should aid in the creaminess feel. Problem is there isn't enough body for it to feel creamy.
Drinkability- Overall I really enjoyed this brew. It's intensely flavorful and full of roasted maltiness that I didn't even know was possible. Can't wait to try the rest! Big thanks again to Jon.

Photo of kzoobrew
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black very little head while pouring. A slight head does appear after the pour, creamy brown in color. Very slight lacing.

Smell is sweet. Almost coffee and sweet vanilla creamer smell. Chocolate aroma is in there too.Roasted malt smell round it out.

Very creamy sweet flavor upfront. Dark roasted coffee flavors mix well with the chocolate and roasted malt taste.

Medium to full bodied, very smooth and creamy. Low carbonation.

Easy and enjoyable to drink. Almost too easy to drink.

Photo of brentk56
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours an almost black color with a modest beige head that drifts away to a ringlet; a few strands of lace are left behind

Smell: Quite roasty, with chocolate, a vague hint of cherries and a whiff of lactose

Taste: Rich black bread, with milk chocolate and a hint of cherry fruit, a bit of coffee and hops arrive by mid-palate, as well; after the swallow, the lactose takes over by mellowing out the other flavors to provide a smooth finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body, somewhat creamy, with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: A very pleasant milk stout with a surprisingly fruity/hoppy aspect

Photo of gford217
2.73/5  rDev -29.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle courtesy of StFun poured into a tulip.

Pours pitch black with a short-lived mocha head that recedes to a ring leaving very little lacing. Aroma is mostly roasted malts with a hint of lactose in the form of bakers chocolate. The taste has a coffee bitterness up front before giving way to a substantial burnt malt backbone. The finish brings back the bitterness, but in a pretty unpleasant chalky way. The mouthfeel is a tad watery with very little carbonation. This is a pretty average stout and not as enjoyable as the first in the series for me. I'm hoping for more with the rest of the series.

Photo of Ben4881
4.18/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark Horse Too Cream Stout
Dark Horse Brewing Company

Thanks drxandy for this dark creation.

Appearance:
This beer pours black as black, dark and thick with a very thin milk chocolate brown head that fades fast and leaves not a trace of lace.

Smell:
A toasty malt aroma engulfs the nostrils, a robust coffee aroma mixed with a sweet and fluffy marshmallow notes. Toffee and caramel scents are also detectable, but not as strong.

Taste:
A nice, delectable bitter coffee flavor hits the palette up front. That flavor mellows to a subtler, sweeter malt flavor with hints of alcohol dancing in the background. This leads to a wet malt finish, followed by a dry bitter coffee flavored aftertaste accompanied by a warming sensation in the stomach.

Mouthfeel:
Medium to heavy body, it feels very dense with little carbonation. However, this beer does foam up with agitation.

Drinkability:
The thickness and bitterness make this beer a delightful sipper. I would find it very difficult to put more than two of these away at a time.

Photo of paco1029384756
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black with no head and very little lacing.

Scent of sugars, some cherries, roasted malts and a bit of alcohol.

Taste is smooth cream, roasted malts and some chocolate with a nice finish of roasted malts. I like this one, not much carbonation, but the flavors balance nicely and it has a nice creamy texture.

Mouthfeel is smooth and goes down easy.

Photo of JDV
3.48/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottles from The_Epeeist and demitriustown. Thanks!
This pours dark black with a tan head. Roasty malt and cream smell with a similar taste along with a faint smokiness too. Medium to light carbonation and a nice lightly rich body. Solid cream stout.

Photo of DarkerTheBetter
4.4/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer looks like an orb of obsidian in my DFH snifter with a collar of dark brown and a few mystical swirls in the middle.

Smells just like awesome. Smells of sweet creamy milk chocolate but also with a strong backing of sticky caramelized barley. There's also a touch of green grape here. The decadent sweetness of this one is off the charts. There's also a slight... barbecue chicken in the background? Who cares, this one's about as sweet and milky as the style could ask for.

The taste starts with a subdued toasty barley that then unfolds into a far more roasted barely that isn't quite porter-y toasty. This roasted character lends a touch of acrid coffee and that barbecue flavor again. Beneath this all is a creamy milkiness that adds a world of balance to an odd beer really pulling things together.

Feels creamy, slick and smooth with a very tight carbonation that doesn't speak too loudly. The presence but cleanness of this one is really remarkable.

Wow. What a beer. It's edgy enough to get your attention, but smooth enough to be a pleasant sipper.

Photo of Tbn2
4.78/5  rDev +22.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from bottle into pint glass.

Eye Candy-Used motor oil with creamy brown head settling on the top.

Nose Candy-Plenty of roasted barley, chocolate malts, and the smell of coffee that has been on all morning.

Mouth Candy-A party in your mouth. Roasted barley hits you first and moves quickly to a coffee taste. At the finish the sweet malts and hops combine in perfect harmony to give a very sweet finish; exactly what a sweet stout should do. Body feel is very full and just right for my taste.

Overall this is a great brew. If you can get your hands on one, you won't be disappointed. Thanks to drxandy for this one.

Bottoms up...

Photo of Overlord
3.98/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

I could remember ever having tried a "cream stout" before. After doing a bit o' research, I realized it's a synonym for milk/sweet stout. Good to know.

Thanks to artusory for this great extra.

Pours a coal black with a big dark tan head that kept bubbling for a good five or ten minutes. Outstanding looking beer. Smells strongly of roasted malt with a bit of cocoa. It's actually not a great aroma.

The flavor is much, much better. How a beer can be this deliciously chocolate and sweetly malted without a hint of it being in the smell is beyond me. There is a bit of that roasted malt background, but this is definitely a sweeter stout. Did I mention the vanilla? There's a lot of it.

Mouthfeel could be thicker, but overall, a very enjoyable beer.

Dark Horse Too Cream Stout from Dark Horse Brewing Company
88 out of 100 based on 973 ratings.