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Dark Horse Too Cream Stout - Dark Horse Brewing Company

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87
very good

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Ratings: 1,014
Reviews: 405
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 10.03%
Wants: 70
Gots: 101 | FT: 3
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

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Beer added by: Mitchster on 02-05-2003

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Photo of Florida9
4.06/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Opaque black in color. Pours with ever the slightest little smidgen of beautifully tan head that practically evaporates into the air, leaving what appears to be a clear puddle of mud in my glass. Absolutely no lacing.

S: Things pick up here. Coffee, deep dark roasted malts, dark chocolate, cocoa and the raisiny sweetness of a PX sherry.

T: Sweet burnt coffee. Peat. Prunes. The dryness of cocoa lingers on the sides of the tongue.

M: The heavier side of medium, with low, but not non-existent carbonation. A bit thinner than expected, with an interesting interplay between the sweetness and the cocoa dryness.

D: A good stout. Very drinkable and an interesting brew.

Photo of aaronh
3.32/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Almost black body with ruby highlights. tan head fades to a thin ring of foam. Aroma has hints of coffee, vanilla, dark chocolate, and warm cream. Flavor is very smoky, like a marshmallow burnt over a camp fire. The beer is not really sweet, but the smoky cream flavor dominates. gradually other roasted malt notes creep through, but the dominant flavor is smoke. Could have done more to balance out the roastiness with more caramel malt sweetness. Mouthfeel is very smooth and creamy, but not as rich as some cream stouts (i.e. Bells). Drinkability is OK - nothing exceptional.

Photo of alcstradamus
2.75/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Nice looking black pour with a small dark brown head. Smell is rich caramel and roasted maltiness with a distinct dairy sweetness. A bit of citrus seems to be floating around as well as some vanilla and cocoa.

Taste is odd, and actually quite off-putting. The sweetness is a killer, and there is also a metallic note that is just poor. Not feeling this one at all. Mouthfeel is medium bodied. Not drinkable, this one is a chore to drink.

Photo of taylorhamrick
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an incredibly dark color, this one rivals the One in darkness, perhaps its a bit darker. With a nice 2 cm thick head, with kind of loose bubbles, but it stays around and leaves little sticky bits of lacing. And exiting beer to behold I'd say - but if the head was just a little more dense it would look nicer. The smell is very intense. I mean, milk stout, this smells like milk. Just a whole lot of lactose, and a bit of lactic acid in there I think - there's a distinct acidity/tartness in the smell, but I don't think this was infected or oxidized, it's just the milk sugar. There's also a complex roastiness, combining coffee, burnt toast, chocolate (sweet milk chocolate and dark). I don't know how most people feel about the smell here, but I really find it enchanting - a little more roastiness would be nice (and maybe dial down on the lactic acid kind of smell). This has all of the things you expect from a milk stout. Just a little tartness, but really a very nice sweetness layered on top of a kind of dry coffee and toast flavor. The toasty bread I think wins out, with a nice deep burnt flavor coming through, balanced with the lactose sweetness. Then a touch of cocoa powder comes in and it finishes again very milky - almost a bit of week-old milky flavor, when it gets some edge on it. I'm liking this series, that takes it to the extreme of a certain stout ingredient, and I can imagine developing a big craving for these in the future. The mouthfeel here is still very full, I mean good body, but the carbonation, just like with the One, just stings, it's too sharp, I wish that could be dialed down. It's like swallowing syrup with little prickly bits of glass or something in it (not quite that extreme, but you get the idea). Not quite offense in the feeling, but not enticing. This one is fairly enjoyable, but extremely complex and challenging I think. I actually found myself drinking it quicker than expected. The ABV is probably a bit higher than I'd want from a more-than-one-r, but I would call myself a fan of this beer, as far as milk stouts go.

Photo of blackearth
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed on-tap at Stub and Herbs in Minneapolis, MN. This beer pours black with a nice tan head. The aroma is reminiscent of burnt sugar and light cream. Light to medium bodied mouthfeel. The flavor is rich, dark roasted malt that go down very smooth.

Photo of ThatWineGuy
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours like motor oil, a fair bit of sediment left behind. No head. Opaque, jet black, under a very bright light there are miniscule bubbles springs dotting the surface of the brew but you really have to look closely to see them. Smell of chocolate cake, stewed prunes, black forest cake. Initial taste was a bit shocking in that it was very sour to the point of producing a lemon-pucker in this reviewer. As it aired and warmed, the sourness softened somewhat and a prune tort and later a black forest cake with sour cherry taste emerged. Still, sourness persisted with a sour milk effect that was not all that pleasing. Overall, a bit too tart for my liking. The finish was relatively short. Although a most intriguing brew, I found this not to my liking and doubt that I would pick it up again; thankfully, Dark Horse has so many excellent products that it's a priviledge to support their efforts despite my not savouring this particular one.

Photo of CrellMoset
3.77/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle as an extra, courtesy of jampics2 - thanks! Poured into a cervoise.

Appearance: A perfectly opaque brew, absolutely black as night, capped by a fizzy head of equally dark shade, relatively. That is, the head is a dark chocolate, initially about a half-finger tall and - though it fades fast - there's a good persistent, cloudy dusting atop this one, along with a foamy ring of lace that persists throughout A few runny swaths of lacing with some minor stick appear as the drink begins.

Aroma: Relatively dry smelling for a sweet stout, with a solid, aromatic bouquet of heavily roasted overtones and astringencies - cocoa, charcoal, toast, slight lactic milkiness, anise, and a strong underlying earthiness, reminiscent of full roast coffee - makes for a pleasant smelling beer.

Taste: Very earthy, sort of like the crusty parts on meat. But I don't eat meat, so maybe not. Heavily toasty, a little wholesome, with a little dirt, Vienna roast coffee, slight licorice, and a few faintly fruity notes. To be fair, the earthiness is pretty all encompassing, either drowning out the flavors in play here or making it obvious that there just aren't too many other flavors here. It's not bad, just a little odd.

Mouthfeel: Slightly creamy - courtesy of a lactic shot, no doubt - with modest, subtle, fine effervescence in a surprisingly thin but still stout-esque body. All in all, about right for the style, and it does a good job of enhancing certain flavors but also making the shallow flavors (mentioned above) obvious w/ its thinness.

Drinkability: An interesting brew, most definitely. A little dry - not for a stout, but for a milk/sweet stout - with a very earthy backbone, but one I can still see enjoying every once in a while. Dark Horse continues to make above average brews and show occasional flashes of genius (Double Crooked Tree, 3 Guys). At the abv% level on this one - unknown, but I'd estimate 5.5%ish - it's quite drinkable, to boot. Recommended.

Photo of Vonerichs
3.8/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown, almost black pour into a snifter with about 3/4" of cinnamon head.

The smell is very sweet and chocolatey. There's a nice roast malt scent to it.

Taste resembles the smell with the roast coming out first, but the chocolate is what sticks to the tounge. It's a mostly sweet chocolate and then a hint of bitterness. Unfortunately, the taste is not as pronounced as the smell.

Thick and creamy mouthfeel with a sweet finish that is not very dry.

Easy to drink for a stout and is not filling, relatively speaking.

In the end, a good but not great cream stout. There's nothing that stands out about it and the flavors are very basic but it's put together well nonetheless.

Photo of biegaman
3.8/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

It was liquid tar that poured out from my bottle. The glass, now seemingly forever stained in oil black tarnish, is opaque and obfuscated even in the brightest of lights. Its inky tone blocks out everything bright; whether it devours the light or just kills it who knows. Its surface is bare but outlined in a mocha ring of foam that is barraged with bubbles.

The aroma is succulently sweet, boasting the note of a sugary white icing as well as the impression of a Black Forest cake. The whipped cream, synthetic maraschino red cherries, the vanilla sponge and milk-infused chocolate shavings characterize the smell of this beer. A detailed description, however, would not be complete without the inclusion of coffee.

Yea, it's basically a Black Forest Cake in liquid form. The taste of (artificial, sweet) cherries, sugary icing, buttery cocoa and vanilla-laden sponge continue to ring out with each and every sip. The tastes of instant coffee as well as smokey, tobacco-like roasted malts are also big components of what is, all considered, an average but sufficiently tasty stout.

The beer is more sour than it is sweet or bitter or roasty. Whether the lactose-like, curdled cream-like resemblance is intentional is not clear; that it detracts from the black coffee and bitter-sweet chocolate is. This abrupt tartness is most unwelcome and detrimental to the flavour profile, to be sure. The flavour becomes astringent and the texture displeasing.

Dark Horse Too is more than good but it isn't too great. This is most certainly something I'd have again, or could have more of in a sitting, but it isn't anything I'd go out of my way to hunt down (especially given the quality of this brewery's other offerings). There's very little room to criticize and I liked it but, for whatever reason, I simply wasn't too impressed.

Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed on 07/10/2009. Bottle. Pours an inky black with hardly any head. Aroma of booze, sweet roasted malt, charred malt, and molasses. Flavor of lots of bitter chocolate and roasted malt and roasted chocolate notes. A touch boozy but rather tasty!

Photo of illidurit
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy bulletrain76. Pours pitch black with a tan creamy head. Aromas of cinnamon brown sugar, lactose, cocoa, coffee, dark chocolate. Flavor is a big dose of roasted malts with a finish exactly like dark chocolate. Nice bitterness. Doesn't quite live up to the wonderful aroma. Medium-heavy body, dry finish. Pretty darn good.

Photo of birchstick
4.12/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - pours like motor oil and leaves a chocolate brown head. Not much different than I expected it to be.

S - smells of toffee, chocolate, and sweet malt. Almost smells like a RIS. Can't wait to try it...

T - this is an excellent stout. Starts off very heavy with burnt malts dominating the taste. However, after the next couple of drinks, the roastedness gives way to sweeter chocolate tones and a touch of smokiness. I was expecting this to be a little bit sweeter.

M - creamy, smooth, and full. Great mouthfeel.

D - this is the definition of a sessionable stout. Flavorful enough to be interesting, yet it doesn't burn you out by the end. Can't wait to try more from Dark Horse.

Photo of Bitterbill
3.93/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This one pours close to a pitch black with a small 1/2 inch head of tan foam. While I was typing that, the foam shriunk to just a ring around the glass with a wee bit of lacing.

The smell is lightly sweet, I'm guessing from chocolate, with a good roasted malt aroma. It isn't an in your face nose but what is there works for me.

The taste is of roasted malt, goodly amount of milk chocolate, and a light bitter chocolate flavour that dominates the finish. Nice and tasty, this is.

Very smooth medium mouthfeel with the carbonation set at a lower level.

Drinkability? A nice mix of bitter and sweet going on here so I'm finding it very easy to drink. Another nice brew from Dark Horse.

Photo of PirateUlf73
4.07/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a pint glass.

A: Onyx black with only a modest brown head.

S: Rich roasted barley aromas, almost coffee-like, along with some subtle hints of sweet chocolate. Very pleasant.

T: Excellent roastiness up front, with sweet suggestions of chocolate in the background. Hop bitterness is (thankfully) barely noticeable. Fairly well melded.

M: Good medium body. A tad lighter than I initially expected, but I was fine with the end product. Slick, coating moutfeel with a long, roasty finish.

D: Very drinkable. An ideal session (sweet) stout.

Overall impressions are very good. This is my first go at Dark Horse's "stout series," and I can't wait to try the rest. A lot of flavor and not too thick. That's a winner in my book!

Photo of cvfish
4.18/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - This beer poured a black color that produced a brown frothy head that had good retention and left some nice lace on the side of the glass

S - This beer produced aromas of sweet chocolate and toasted malts

T - The taste of this beer was great, lots of toasted malts at the beginning followed by some nice sweetness of milk chocolate, finished with smoke

M - The mouthfeel of this beer had a medium, smooth body with a moderate amount of carbonation

D - This was an incredible drink, I love Stouts and Milk Stouts are something we don't get much of, but this was a great drink an looking forward to more Dark Horse beers

Photo of coldmeat23
3.55/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

GLASS: Pint Glass
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 50 degrees

Pours a very dark ruby tinted brown that appears black. One-finger head of somewhat creamy looking dark brown foam. Retention and lacing are both okay.

Huge notes of dark roasted malts. Mild lactose sweetness. Light coffee scent and mild hints of dark cherries. Mild dark chocolate hints.

Taste follows the nose, with huge roasted malt notes dominating. The lactose smoothes out the taste and sweetens it a touch. Light wisps of smokiness. Hints of dark roasted coffee.

I'd say medium body, right on the edge of being full. Totally smooth, but only a little bit creamy, which is a negative.

This is where it does best, for me. This is an easy to drink, not overly demanding stout. I'm not sure of the ABV, but I'd guess it to be around the 7.0% area.
It's not quite in the 'special' stout category, but it's better than most, as far as being easy-drinking.

Photo of popery
3.47/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to deliriumfest for this beer.

A: Black liquid with a very small brown head.

S: Chocolate, roast, a bit of cardboard or tin or something. I'm not sure of the age of this bottle, but it's not really all that old. It could have had a bad cap or something, but it seems pretty close to other descriptions. Maybe, I'm just not a fan of the style. I'll try to revisit it when I drink a few more entries in the style.

T: A little sweet for my taste. Slightly soured roasty malt flavors. I can't really taste any hops and the flavors suffer from the mouthfeel, so I don't want to give too low of a score here.

M: Fairly flat and much too thin. It has the feel of an over-aged stout.

D: The feel really hurts the drinkability for me. I would only buy another to verify my current ratings.

Photo of barnzy78
3.76/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. Pours black with no transparency. Chocolate colored head that leaves no lacing on the glass. Aromas are of roasted malts, but that's about it. Mouth-feel is smooth and creamy. Flavors are roasted malts with hints of milk chocolate and espresso. Overall, decent milk stout, but there are better ones out there.

Photo of WakeandBake
4.2/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A dark black color body with a brown frothy head,that lingers a bit then fades to a nice lace leaving rim. Aroma of chocolate,dark roasted malt, and a sugary lactic note. Flavor is pretty simple, bitter and milk chocolate, roasted malt and a lactic milky quality,well balanced. Creamy,smooth mouthfeel,medium carbonatrion, and a sweet malty finish,quite drinkable and good.Dark Horse is always a treet.

Photo of brow1901
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- This beer pours a deep dark black. Lets almost no light shine through when held to the light. The head is almost none, but what is there is a dark brown. leaves a decent lacing, but the head just about disappears.

S- Smells strongly of roasted malts. A light hint of coffee and chocolate. Any hops in here are hardly noticeable.

T- Again the hops don't do much balancing in this beer and thus it seems a bit too sweet and malty for my taste. The coffee flavors are strong in the mouth, but not overpowering but light and enjoyable.

M- Very dry in the after taste. Thick and full bodied to begin with. But there is something that makes it very enjoyable. Maybe it isn't as thick as I thought, thick is good but this isn't too thick, its almost perfect.

D- Very drinkable, this is a tasty beer. Not too much alcohol but more flavor and complexity than your average oatmeal stout, and a bit more enjoyable than some of the other cream stouts I've had.

Photo of Monkeyknife
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle a deep black-black with a modest mocha-red head.

Aroma of roasted malts, dark chocolate, and black coffee.

The taste is a big combination of dark chocolate, cocoa, and strong black coffee.

Medium bodied, smooth, and lightly carbonated.

A very drinkable and good stout, but not great. The sweet lactose and the richness was missing from this cream stout.

Photo of Dalem
3.53/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

It pours pitch black in color with a modest reddish tinted head the dissipates fairly quickly leaving a slight ring around the edges and minimal lacing. The aroma is fairly sweet with the scent of baker's chocolate and cream up front and the smell of very dark roasted & slightly bitter coffee in the background. The flavor has a very roasted malt taste up front with a slight bit of dark fruits, unsweetened chocolate and coffee laying underneath. A little hint of bitterness is there but is quickly mellowed out by a sweet cream base. It's not supercrazy in it's complexities but the flavors balance each other well. The finish is a bit lighter than your average stout but not in that weak ass watery Guinness way.

Photo of beveritt
4.33/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Presentation: Thanks to biniek13 for tossing in this extra on a recent trade. Poured from a 12 oz brown bottle into an Imperial pint glass. Label is simple black and white and has the curving ribbon theme seen on so many Dark Horse labels; a seemingly abstract horse head. The capital letters A and B on the side of the label make me think this one is supposed to be added to others in a series. No freshness date.

Appearance: Pours with just shy of one finger of extremely dark brown head.This settles to a nearly complete coating of foam and a ring around the glass. The beer itself is dark, brown, maybe black and looked like motor oil pouring out of the bottle. A thick layer of well compacted sediment remains in the bottle.

Smell: Strong aroma of roasted barley and bitter, black coffee.

Taste: A strong blast of roasted barley bitterness hits the tongue upfront, fresh and crisp, like chewing on just cracked barley. This is well balanced by a smooth lactose creaminess. The blend lingers well past the sip.

Mouthfeel: Lower than average carbonation, fitting of the style. Enough to deliver the strong flavors from a thick beer, without overpowering them. Body is great, one of the thickest beers I have had.

Drinkability: Impressed. This is not as sweet as you typically find in a milk stout, but does an excellent job of presenting a strong flavor without being overpowering. A good sipper, that also seems to go down fairly easily.

Photo of dukedevil0
4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Single 12oz bottle from Archer Liquors in Chicago, IL.

A: Pours a dark opaque black with some copperish khaki head that reduces down to just a film.

S: dominant smell is slightly burnt coffee (but in a good way), some roasted malts, chocolate and maybe even a hint of vanilla?

T: Nice and sweet coffee flavor with the roast, chocolate and vanilla undertones

M: A little thin, but makes this more refreshing...must be the difference between an imperial stout and a milk/sweet stout, i don't mind it...carbonation-wise it's close to a soda pop

D: it's smooth and not so heavy like a RIS would be, the sweetness makes this easy to take down

Photo of fo5s
3.87/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into my sierra nevada glass. Got this bottle in an in-person trade with weirdbeer at kate the great day - thanks! I love the bottle style and the 1-5 series of stouts. These were on my wants for quite a while and I'm excited to review the entire series (minus One...haven't scored that one yet).

Upon opening the bottle I notice a thick brown residue along the inside of the neck. It doesn't look the least bit appetizing. If I get sick from this, there will be hell to pay.

A- an aggressive pour only yielded 3mm or so of head, which dissipated in no time. Opaque, but doesn't look very thick.

S- great aroma. picking up some strong chocolate with roasted undertones.

T- Bitter chocolate all the way. A touch over-roasted on the front, but the bitter chocolate lingers long after. I can taste a little bit of the creaminess, but really lacks the sweet creaminess I'd expect from a cream stout. As it warms, the sweetness on the tongue starts to emerge, but at this point I'm expecting chocolate!

M- First thought it that this is fairly thin for a cream stout. Like the taste, it doesn't have that creamy feel to it. Carbonation is appropriate- a relief given the disappointing head.

D- Pretty good so far. The uncharacteristic thinness actually works to the advantage of drinkability.

Overall a solid, tasty brew, but not worth going crazy over. I set the bar pretty high for this brew, and despite falling short, I'm pleased with the brew. It will be interesting to see how this compares to the rest of the series.

Dark Horse Too Cream Stout from Dark Horse Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 1,014 ratings.