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Dark Horse Too Cream Stout - Dark Horse Brewing Company

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Dark Horse Too Cream StoutDark Horse Too Cream Stout

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BA SCORE
87
very good

920 Ratings
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Ratings: 920
Reviews: 399
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 10.28%
Wants: 67
Gots: 77 | FT: 4
Brewed by:
Dark Horse Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Mitchster on 02-05-2003)
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Photo of Winter
3.8/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours near black in color with a thick tan head that reduces to a surface ring around the top of the body. Aroma consists of milk chocolate, cocoa, toffee, caramel, some fruitiness (akin to raisins), and some alcohol that's buried underneath it all. Full-bodied mouthfeel that's smooth in front and carbonated toward the back. Flavors of dark roasted malt and dark chocolate. Many of the same flavors from the nose are layered throughout. Very enjoyable. This doesn't quite have the "creaminess" of a milk stout, as it plays more of the roasted flavors, but regardless it's very good.

Winter, Nov 21, 2007
Photo of BeerTruth
4.13/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to unclejedi for this one.

12 oz. bottle poured into a pint glass.

Pours a midnight onyx black with a half finger dark tan head that instantly dies down to just about nothing. Well, the just about nothing leaves nothing on the sides...who woulda thunk? Smell is a rich raspberry chocolate aroma with mild oak like scents. Black french roast coffee leaves its mark. But this one is all about the malt...sweet sweet malt in the nose. Taste is a milky caramel malt that covers the french roast flavors. A weak smokey flavor is present throughout entire taste. Somewhat dry aftertaste with a cappuccino-like sweetness. Mouthfeel is almost water-like but with more density. No bubbles in the cheeks at all. No Kalamazoo, but this one doesn't disappoint at all.

BeerTruth, Nov 06, 2007
Photo of Bighuge
4.43/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This looks like some really thick stuff as it pours. Pitch black color. Thin dark brown head. Good retention and lace properties. The aroma is pretty damn nice. Some of that smooth oatyness. Also some char and black malt goodness on the nose. The flavor really coats the tongue thoroughly. Big rush of roasted malt goodness mixed with some dark berries and anise oil. Cherries come to mind as well. Actually, more like bitter cherry chocolate. Very pleasing flavor profile. Creamy and velvety mouthfeel. Medium bodied. Very flavorful and very drinkable. One of the better cream stouts I've had in a while.

Bighuge, Oct 24, 2007
Photo of aforbes10
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Review from notes:

had this on tap at the brewery. Served in a shaker pint a dark stouty black/brown with a brown ring of head. Odor is of chocolate and cappuchino, not too complex. Taste is sweet and malty. roasty. smooth dark chocolate. Mouthfeel maybe a bit thin for the style....or maybe not...nice overall. If there's something lacking its that the sweetness and roasty flavor together become distracting.

aforbes10, Sep 12, 2007
Photo of kmpitz2
4.3/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle. The brew is as dark as black can be with a niticable lack of head, only mustering a slight ring around the top. Clarity is impossible to judge, and there is no visible carbonation in the beer. The aroma is solid roasty malt base with a moderate pineyness and a lactic acid sharpness apparent when I take a deep sniff over top. The flavor is very nice with a solid and nicely bitter roasted malt that melds into a creamy lacto sweetness that then finishes with a nice ashy roast again. Mouthfeel is moderate, with no carbonation. It has a mild slickness to it. Drinkability is fantastic. The flavors are really well blended; I like how the heavy roast is mellowed by the lacto character. This is a nice brew.

kmpitz2, Aug 23, 2007
Photo of Phatz
4.72/5  rDev +21.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Allowed to warm to room temp and served in a snifter.

Appearance: Pours as black a black as you ever did see. A thick dark brown head fades to a frothy cap.

Smell: rich roasted malts and berries, bittersweet chocolate caramel molasses and plethora of all around goodness.

Taste: The chocolate is soft and smooth and milky with caramel and a touch of carob with a roasted coffee finish that is simply *magnificent*.

Mouthfeel: sensuous and smooth it slides across the tongue with a medium body and leaves behind a nip of roasty dryness.

Drinkability: This beer really hit the spot. I like a good sweet milk stout and this one is right on the money. Balanced perfectly and a pleasure to drink. If this was available locally I'd have a case soon.

Hope this is helpful.
Cheers!

Phatz, Jul 03, 2007
Photo of GRPunk
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into an Imperial Pint glass

A- It poured a jet black with some dark brown tones apparent at the edges. The head was thin, tan, and disappeared quickly. The lacing was quite light.

S- The scent was coffee and something like a dried fruit (raisins) or maybe plums. There were lots of roasted malts and something of a sweet smell.

T- There were lots of roasted malts and a coffee finish combined with something of a sweet flavor from the lactose. It was almost as if there was a hint of sweetened condensed milk in the background.

M- Very creamy and smooth.

D- This is the kind of sweeter stout I can enjoy in the summer months. I'm not going to session this one, but I could drink more than 1 in a sitting. I would call this a solid sweet stout.

GRPunk, Jul 02, 2007
Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.2/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured a very dark brown with only a slight ring of froth.
Smell is heavy roasted molasses and some roasted coffee. Taste is pretty much the same. The mouthfeel is somewhat smoky from the roastiness. The mouthfeel is smooth and a little lighter than medium on the mouthfeel.
A good beer, but one would be enough. The taste does get a little much after one.

FtownThrowDown, Jun 22, 2007
Photo of drseamus
3.23/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Got this one in a trade from emerge077 and I'd like to thank him again for an excellent trade (it included a dark lord). This one pours jet black with a very dark mocha head. It was hard to determine exactly what color the head was because it disappeared very quickly. Roasted malt dominates this fairly weak aroma and is backed up a bit by some coffee. The flavor is predominated by dark chocolate but it is too bitter. There is some coffee in the background. Some astringency that is present is a bit of a turn off. This isn't my favorite of cream stouts in that it isn't very sweet. I do taste some lactose in there I believe though, so I guess the style is correct. An average beer all around.

drseamus, Jun 07, 2007
Photo of MDekker
2.7/5  rDev -30.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

In general, I'm not a fan of cream stouts, as opposed to other stouts, but this one really failed me big time:

A: Pours out jet black with almost no head. What little does materialize is quite brown in color.

S: Coffee, dark chocolate, and creamy smells. Not bad.

T: Not much TOO it. Flavors similar to the aromatic notes, but not enough of them. I wanted more from this. Balance is OK.

M: Here's where it all fell apart - practically no carbonation, with no thickness to compensate for it. Just way TOO watery, so it ended up like drinking stale Coke. Blah.

D: I couldn't finish it. Bummer.

MDekker, May 26, 2007
Photo of Duster72
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark black with little tan head and little retention. Aroma is cocoa, coffee, and roasted sweet malts. Taste is on the sweet side with chocolate, coffee, and dark fruits being the primary components. Very creamy mouthfeel. Not the most drinkable cream stout from Michigan, but a very solid beer.

Duster72, May 24, 2007
Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.38/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Glossy sable that cozies up to the pint glass so snuggly that no highlights are visible. The compact cap is the color of molasses cookies and looks to be equally as dense. More lace would have been great, but then an ABV of 8.0% is high enough for tempered expectations in that department.

The nose is mega-roasted with an abundance of freshly-brewed black coffee. I seem to remember coffee being a big part of the first beer in this 'Holiday Stout Series', One Oatmeal Stout. Looking back at that review, I think this nose is almost identical, both in terms of quality and personality.

Other than a mouthfeel that's too thin for such a boldly flavored stout, I like Too just as much as I liked One. I'm guessing that Dark Horse used a preponderance of roasted and black malt, keeping the paler varieties to a minimum. When you aren't going to use a truckload, it's best to maximize bang for the buck.

Well-roasted coffee beans are still the obvious focal point. In addition, dark chocolate and molasses swirl throughout each mouthful, and the added milk sugar is easily appreciated. I wish more stouts were this serious about delivering such intense flavor. While sweet and bitter share top billing, the lactic tang has to satisfied with a brief cameo. For a milk/sweet stout, Too isn't all that milky or that sweet.

I'm really torn about the mouthfeel. If this is an 8.0%'er, as I've been led to believe, then it's too light (for the record, it drinks like a 6.0%'er at most). This amount of deliciousness deserves a more sturdy vehicle so that the beer can maximize its taste bud contact time.

Now that I'm halfway through the One, Too, Tres, Fore series of Dark Horse stouts, I have to say that I'm impressed. Too is easily the equal of One and is so drinkable that I've finished the beer before finishing my review; something that doesn't happen very often. Snag this one if you have the opportunity. It's excellent beer.

BuckeyeNation, May 03, 2007
Photo of NeroFiddled
4.1/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Easily one of the darkest beers I've ever seen, Dark Horse's Cream Stout pours an opaque stream of oily black into the glass, steadily raising a frothy dark brown head that drops shortly to a wide collar and whispy surface covering. Its intensity of color, however, is not carried over into the flavor and aroma. The nose is, in fact, more fruity (with a berry-like yeastiness) than it is roasty. Only as it warms does the coffee and dark chocolate character begin to rise. The mouthfeel is certainly full though, leaving it somewhat viscous, supple, and creamy smooth across the palate with a mild, very-fine bubbled natural carbonation from bottle conditioning. In the flavor it's mainly coffee-like, with mild hints of bittersweet chocolate, but no sweetish caramel or nuttiness. And the expected, harsh and bitter, super deep roastiness like an ashtray is entirely missing... this is actually quite smooth and rounded! There's not a lot of complexity to it, but it IS rich, and it lingers in the aftertaste for minutes after it's gone. Quite nice. A great cigar beer!

NeroFiddled, Apr 15, 2007
Photo of BMoney575
3.8/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled on 4-13-07

Pours super black with a small tan head and good retention.

Smell is sweet malt, maybe a touch of licorice, not much else.

Taste is good, much like the smell but with a slight smokiness and coffee on the finish.

Mouthfeel is thinner than you might expect but still good.

Drinkability is also good, but it's a heavier beer, and the bitterness builds up after awhile.

Overall a good stout, right in the meaty part of the curve.

BMoney575, Apr 14, 2007
Photo of emerge077
4.18/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Taste is roasty, with a dose of campfire smoke. Earthy, malty, with an edge of hop bitterness in the finish. Not sweet, but verges on bittersweet chocolate big time.

Creamy mouthfeel with just enough carbonation to sustain a finger of tan foam. Body is inky black, it pours like motor oil. Nondescript aroma, slight roast malt as it warms. If you like smoke in your stout, seek this out.

One is good for me, it's a rare treat...

emerge077, Apr 08, 2007
Photo of GbVDave
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a 20oz imperial pint.

A: Pitch black with a mocha colored head. Very little in the way of lace.

S: Nice aromas of roasted coffee, chocolate, and raisins/plums/figs.

T: Bitter coffee and chocolate take the lead with this stout. Dark fruit, brown sugar, cherries, lactose sweetness, and hops round out the flavors.

M: The mouthfeel is creamy but surprisingly tart and bitter for a milk stout. Finish is quite spicy, dry, and bitter.

D: Very different for the style. Not surprisingly, Dark Horse chose not to have this constrained within the style guidlines. Very bitter and tart but extremely enjoyable!

GbVDave, Apr 07, 2007
Photo of david131
4.22/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A- Absolute pitch black. I was kind of surprised by how dark this was. With a very hard pour, I managed to get a very little brown head that settled to a ring foam at the edge of the glass. I love how dark this is.

S- A lot of coffee and very smoky. Also some chocolate and some hints of cinnamon.

T- Smoky, coffee, chocolate, cinnamon, and some raisin. Kind of meaty. There is not a lot of depth to this beer, its all kind of right up front- which is not necessarily a bad thing.

M- Perfect amount of carbonation to go along with the creaminess of the liquid. Wonderful.

D- I was really impressed with this one. I don't really think this is a great representation of the style, but who cares.

I get a kick out of the unassuming, boring, white labels Dark Horse uses. It is a great contrast to the liquid gold on the inside.

david131, Apr 06, 2007
Photo of alexgash
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Viscous, oily black body. Even with an assertive pour, there is only a very small, lacy, cocoa brown head. Nose of rich milk chocolate, vanilla ice cream, dark fruits, sugary coffee, and molasses.

Slight roasted malt flavor up front, quickly replaced with sweet milk chocolate and sugary dark fruits. Dries out with notes of coffee, baking chocolate, and peat. Oily mouthfeel with a full body and modest carbonation. Perhaps a little bit rougher than the other holiday stouts by DH, but still not bad at all.

alexgash, Mar 20, 2007
Photo of Wasatch
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks stouty1

Pours a clean dark brown/black color, some carbonation, no head or lacing afterwards. The nose is sweet roasted malts, slight vanilla, and some toffee/coffee. The taste pretty much follows the nose, sweet malty, and a nice touch of toffee/coffee. Medium body. Very drinkable, a very nice Milk/Sweet Stout, glad to have a chance to check this brewery out, this is my first, but I do have another from them, and hopefully a couple of other's coming in trade. Recommended.

Wasatch, Mar 12, 2007
Photo of DaPeculierDane
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours jet black with no head and a thin dark brown ring. Not all that appealing. Nose is light but contains some nice elements of hazelnut, vanilla, sweet cream, and roasted malt. I don’t catch any coffee or chocolate oddly enough.

Tastes light bodied, fruity sweet with a metallic front, and ultra mild oatmeal tangy finish. Mild lactic quality that gives way to more sweetness and fruit as it warms. Body mellows as the minute carbonation settles. Becomes very drinkable around 55 degrees or so. Again, nice roasted malts, plenty of vanilla/hazelnut spice, but not much in the way of coffee or chocolate. I don’t mind that though. This is a nice beer. The body is perfect as is the balance. Smooth, creamy, and delightful.

Ultra drinkable.

DaPeculierDane, Feb 20, 2007
Photo of rhoadsrage
3.45/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

(Served in an American pint glass)

A- This beer has a jet black body with a dark brown bubbly head that fades quickly. This body is too dense to see any carbonation.

S- This beer has a roasted black malt aroma with a dark roasted coffee bean hint. There is a slight smoke note to the malt that comes through when it warms.

T- This beer has a dark bitter black roasted malt flavor with a hint of coffee and a slight note of cream when it is warm. There is a soft chalky hint and a slight astringency and inky note in the finish. The overall taste is pretty dry.

M- This beer has a light mouthfeel with a bit of a watery texture.

D- This beer has a pretty light thin body and the taste is pretty dry for this style.

rhoadsrage, Feb 19, 2007
Photo of mrasskicktastic
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours an oily black with under a millimeter transmission depth. This may be the darkest beer I''ve ever had. No head off the pour. None at all. An attempt to excite the head got only a single tiny bubble thick layer that dissipates in moments. There were a few specks of lacing on the glass, but nothing substantial.

S - Chocolate and burnt malt mesh with a bit of an underlying sweetness (lactose perhaps). It actually smells a bit weird.

T - Robust bittersweet chocolate with a hefty backing dark roasted strong coffee beans. The aftertaste has a light coffee bitterness.

M - Thick, slick, smooth and very refreshing. I love the texture of these dark horse stouts.

D - Pretty good. This is an extremely pleasant and hearty milk stout. It is more of a dessert beer, but one could session it (I suspect the abv is too high for that though). Dark Horse impresses me yet again. I should note that this might have had a really strong hop profile or a ton of bitterness - I wouldn't know since I had devil dancer a few hours ago.

mrasskicktastic, Dec 05, 2006
Photo of benito
3.1/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

From a single bought at Cloverleaf.

A: A vigorous pour produces nothing more than a fizzy, thin head. Otherwise it's oil black and leaves the glass unfazed...no lacing, no swirls, nothing.

S: Sweet, with lots of creme brulee and rosewood.

T: Good espresso sweetness up front, almost marshmallowy, followed by a burnt, bitter bite toward the end and a peppery, dry finish. The second half of this isn't at all what I would have expected from a cream stout. But the initial flavor is spot on. What happens halfway through? Why? The flavors themselves aren't inoffensive or inappropriate (in fact, I enjoy a slightly bitter finish to an otherwise sweet stout). But the transition is sudden and jarring.

M and D: A little thin, but it has a good length of flavor. Very easy to cruise through a pint or two of this.

Overall, this is a fine, if unexceptional stout from Dark Horse. It's a moderately bitter sweet stout with all the right elements, but they don't really come together all that well.

benito, Nov 24, 2006
Photo of headhopper
3.7/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours pitch black with zero head. I mean....none. Looks like dirty motor oil. Thats not a bad thing necceseraly.

S - Its creamy and smokey. Ofcourse there is chocolate and some roasty/toasty smell.

T - Cream, chocolate , and some roasted coffee beans. Almost like a chocolate covered smoke log???? Goes down somewhat dry. It has a little bitterness too , but not much at all.

M - lets see... creamy. It coats your mouth with a pleasant cooling creamy feel.

D - Very easy drinking. Nothing offensive here. Maybe the faint smokiness could turn some people off, but its very subdued. I could have a few, but its a bit filling. Over all though, there is nothing complex here.

This was a good beer. I picked up a few singles and will seek out a full 6 pack now. Seems to hit the spot if you want something sweet after dinner and want a beer.

headhopper, Nov 14, 2006
Photo of thelagerheads
4.65/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

$1.67 12 oz bottle
Cloverleaf Fine Wine & Spirits
Southfield, MI

Take the bottle and pour it deep into the glass and when the last bubbles froth and foment at the festering fizz top shake the last drips of the bottle onto the surface of the beer. You'll see little bubbles shoot off the top and slide like electricity to the glass sides and die there. This really has nothing to do with this beer but it's something I've noticed from doing this a few times now. All right...deep hued chocolate, coffee smoke, burnt wood and a mild sweetness in the taste of the dregs at the roof of your mouth. One of the best stouts and cream stouts I've ever had.

thelagerheads, Nov 09, 2006
Dark Horse Too Cream Stout from Dark Horse Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 920 ratings.