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Dark Horse Too Cream Stout - Dark Horse Brewing Company

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87
very good

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Ratings: 1,047
Reviews: 413
rAvg: 3.89
pDev: 10.03%
Wants: 70
Gots: 109 | FT: 3
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Dark Horse Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

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Beer added by: Mitchster on 02-05-2003

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Ratings: 1,047 | Reviews: 413
Photo of Halcyondays
4.12/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle, courtesy of Andrew,

A: Pours black with a dark tan white head, good lace.

S: Coffee immediately, dominated by mocha, creamed coffee and dark chocolate, great smell.

T: Not terribly sweet. As with the nose a lot of coffee flavours and roasted malt, with a slight lactose component at the end. Pretty bitter overall, but certainly a good flavour.

M: Medium/full-bodied, creamy.

D: This is a very good stout and the first beer I've ever gotten to try from Dark Horse. Quite impressed.

Photo of levifunk
3.8/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks to badnewsbeers for this extra!

pours way darker than I was expecting. looks good.

smell is amazing. smells like chocolate and caramel.

taste isn't as strong as the smell leads on. i can taste the malt and the chocolate, but they are separate flavors. (doesn't taste like a chocolate malt).

mouthfeel is somewhat thick, but the carbonation keeps it on the lighter side.

overall this is a great beer. very drinkable as an everyday beer, and has a pretty high ABV that goes undetected.

Photo of alleykatking
4.22/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours from 12oz bottle. Part two of their five part series. Sampled at the Dark Horse tasting.

A- Pours a deep black color as much as the other stouts. Mocha colored head comes and ends with whisps on the top of the beer. No real lacing as it slids back into the glass.

S- The creamy lactose comes out more so like others have stated than the roasted malts. Some light chocolate undertones makes this smell a little like chocolate milk to me or some half and half.

T- The taste follows the aroma pretty well. Light roasted malts in the front of this clashes with sugar lactose giving this a sweet taste in the front. The chocolate flavors come into the back end with some half and half flavors coming into play.

M- Medium heavy mouthfeel. Carbonation is a little light for the beer. Creamy roastedness in the palate with some creamer half and half flavors in the aftertaste. Very smooth and creamy in the mouth.

D- This is one of the favorites I have had that night. Nice creamy mouthfeel makes this beer a very nice sipper. Actually a little too much of a drinker than a sipper...haha.

Photo of akorsak
3.7/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Part 2 of my Dark Horse stout odyssey. From the bottle shop next to DH.

A: This stout, a cream stout, is as dark as One, a pitch black stout that isn't interested in having any brown hues. An off-white head, a caramel color, sits as a thin band.

S: The lactose really stands out, a creamy sweet aroma that adds life to the stout. Underneath the lactose, a mildly roasted aroma (not as strong as I'd expect) hangs around.

T: A recurring theme, the stout body comes across as thin until the finish of each sip. The lactose creates a flavor that borders on sour without giving up its sweetness. Behind the lactose, the flavor drops off, losing any momentum. Only at the end of each sip does the stout come back with a vengeance. The roasted flavors are intense, a burst of flavor that lingers. A creeping sourness, lactic in nature, pops up in the finish too.

M: The mouthfeel is generally smooth, although the lactic sourness is a little jarring to the uninitiated. More roasted flavors mid-sip wouldn't be unappreciated.

D: The stout doesn't feel like 8%, hiding the strength behind the lactose and roasted malts. The nice finish will keep me coming back.

Photo of stakem
3.6/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a jet black color with no light being able to shine through (not even around the edges.) Initially produces a finger of darkly tanned head that quickly cracks and fades to just a thin lace on top of this beer. Dark roasty aroma has some scents of coffee and chocolate blended with a bit of citrus fruitiness and then a slight note of sweetness in the backend. Taste is roasted coffee, bitter chocolate, minor citrus hops and a nice warming alcohol bite. Finishes with some dry bitter chocolate and burnt grain left lingering in the mouth. It has a medium feel and high amount of carbonation which is a little distracting. This is probably the least sweet of any milk/sweet stout I have ever had and I can honestly say that I like it. It ranks up there as one hell of a stout but a sweet stout? I dont know about that. Give it a try and see what you think.

Photo of WorldWideStout
4.13/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Received as an extra in a trade with czoch85 - thanks Clint!

A: Almost black, and much more viscous than I had anticipated. A rather dark, brown head reaches its apex at a finger's width, and then dissipates in the next half minute.

S: Gentle coffee scent, with some roastiness and a bit of lactose as well.

T: Starts off with a rather sweet, pleasant milkiness. Towards the middle the coffee and a bit of bitterness and roastiness comes in. Lactose comes in subtlely at the end, and the aftertaste is a mild roastiness.

M: Fairly full, but not as thick as the appearance would lead you to believe, as there is some milkiness to its body as well. Very appropriate for the style.

D: Heck yes! This doesn't feel like 8% at all; I thought it was 5 or 6 until I saw it listed. Light mouthfeel, flavorful but not over the top, all combine to make this a very sessionable beer.

This doesn't have the crazy, kick in the face flavors that make me love or despise a beer, but I don't think milk stouts should. What this beer does have is a lovely balance of roastiness and lactose. I would have liked a bit more complexity, but I definitely enjoyed this brew, and think it would be an excellent session beer.

Photo of Riccymon
3.04/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours from the bottle a fizzy, impenetrable black with not even enough head to cover the surface of the beer. This apperance is not completely unexpected, but it's still a little weak for the style. Smell has a fairly strong, complex smokey note on top of roasty malt, and I'm really enjoying it.

Following the nose, the taste and mouthfeel are a bit of a letdown. While the sweet malt, lactic flavor, and nutty aftertaste (think porter-like) are quite tasty, a slightly salty, mineral flavor that comes later isn't that palatable. Body is moderate and to style, but something about the mouthfeel makes for an astringent finish that I dislike.

This beer had some ups and downs for me, and overall I found it to be just an average milk stout. If I were around Michigan, I think I'd opt for Bell's Special Double Cream nine times out of ten.

Photo of nickd717
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12oz bottle via trade thanks to dug on BA.

Pours pretty much black with a one-finger beige head.

Aroma is roasty and fairly chocolatey with some coffee notes. A little sweet.

Flavor is similar to the aroma, with roast, chocolate, and coffee. Lactose sweetness is definitely noticeable. Some considerable earthiness in this one as well.

Mouthfeel is somewhat grainy and perhaps a little more carbonated than I'd like this style to be. Body is medium-full.

This is an excellent stout overall. Dark Horse has really come up as a dark horse recently and has put out some awesome beers.

Photo of teovaldi
4.17/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours the same color as an RIS...interesting! Not expecting that from the style. Needless to say this is jet black with a nice one finger coffee colored head that doesnt stay around too long.

As soon as I began to pour I was hit with a very very sweet smell. Once I finish pouring and get my nose in it sweet chocolate and coffee attack me. This one smells great.

The taste follows the nose almost exactly. Coffee roast starts out dominating then a milky sweetness comes in at the right time to even things out and finishes pretty bitter...which I love. This is an extremely balanced beer.

This has a much thinner mouthfeel then the appearance and ABV would lead you to believe. Coats the mouth but doesn't stick around too long...seems a touch over carbed.

The 8% isn't noticeable at all due to its wonderful balance. Good thing this is only a 4 pack.

Photo of ffejherb
3.94/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle into 25cl glass on 3/17/10.

A - Poured really close to a black liquid with half an inch of burnt tan froth that receded to a thin ring of retention and virtually no lacing.

S - Aroma blends earthy hop notes with dark bitter chocolate and some milky lactic sweetness. There is also a slight waft of molasses and perhaps a touch of brown sugar as well.

T - Dark chocolate notes and leafy hops impart a bitter character to the stout and, while there is some lactic sweetness and dough-like malt present, this is ultimately a pretty bitter stout. Finishes with quite a bit of earthy, herbal hop bitterness that clings to the palate.

M - Medium bodied with a slick, oily texture and moderate carbonation, which provides a slight bristly feel on the palate. Finishes with a fairly assertive hop bite, especially for a cream stout.

D - Enjoyed this one a bit more than One. Too is on the bitter side of the cream stout spectrum, which I enjoyed. The dark chocolates really added a lot of bitter character to this otherwise sweet stout style. I'd drink more.

Photo of trentley87
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours dark as motor oil. This one is BLACK. A nice dark toffee colored head to boot, not that it bothers sticking around too long. Very appetizing.

S: Malts and sweetness, but not a lot of aroma coming out for me. Actually made me more anxious to taste it.

T: Sweet and creamy. Absolutely delicious. I could not tell that it was 8% ABV.

M: Slippery but stout. Carbonation on target.

D: Would be extremely drinkable except for the russian imperial stout level of alcohol content.

Photo of jdklks
3.6/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

I am really impressed with the look and the smell of this one. Pours and smells like a great imperial stout, which is certainly not my usual experience with milk stouts. The body is impenetrable black, with hardly an edge even when backlit. the head is small, but dark-chocolatey. The aroma is of coffee roast and chocolate mainly, but also a lot of sweet dark fruits, especially plum. Perhaps also some caramel... no hint of the alcohol.

All the smells are also attributes of the flavor, but not the way I want them to be. There is some chocolate, but it is bitter, and the roast doesn't level things off, but is rather in the background, which was not expected from the smell. It is quite literally like drinking beer-flavored milk, or milk flavored beer, go figure. Lots of lactose here. The dark fruits aren't as sweet as I was hoping for from the smell. There is the smallest hint of the 8% abv, and thats about it, aside from a dry metallic taste.

The mouthfeel is just okay... its super thick, which is good, but its very dry on the palate, and I'm not all that sure that the level of carbonation is right here. The drinkability is below average because it feels like you've dropped a brick into your stomach when you're only halfway through. Not for the lactose intolerant.

Photo of HitokiriNate85
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - The inkiness of this beer is not to be underestimated. It's somewhere between a regular and imperial stout at 8%, but it definitely poured like the latter. At the same time, it produced a pretty thick, frothy mocha head that's fading pretty quickly. Doesn't lace, but it does keep a dark brown outter ring of foam.

S - Really roasty malt. Lots of rich espresso that really dominates. After a solid minute of sniffing, taking a break, then going back, I'm finally getting an undertone of something sweet-ish, presumably from the lactose.

T - Follows the nose really well, but the lactose is definitely much more noticeable in the taste. Roasty notes really dominate off the bat. However, everytime they're just about ready to completely wash your mouth in roasty dryness, the lactose steps in with a milky sweetness to steady things out. This process seems to happen multiple times with every sip and even in the finish, which is interesting. The 8% isn't detectable at all.

MF - Definitely on the thin side. A little less carbonation might help out there(it's not overcarbonated, though), but I'm not really sure. Coats the mouth and sticks around, but I did expect more body at this strength.

D - Well, the ABV isn't noticeable at all, and I definitely appreciate the copious amounts of roasted malt to counteract the sweetness. This is my second beer(and stout) from Dark Horse, and I'm regretting not picking up extra bottles instead of just singles.

Photo of bluejacket74
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle. Served in a nonic pint glass, the beer pours dark brown/black with about an inch brown head. Head retention is good, lacing is decent. Aroma is sweet and malty, the beer smells like milk chocolate, roasted malt, vanilla and some toffee. Taste is similar to the aroma, but I can also notice a bit of coffee in the flavor. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit chewy and coating with good carbonation. Drinkability is good, it's not hard to drink at all and it's smooth. The 8% ABV isn't very noticable at all, you'd think you were drinking a beer that wasn't quite as strong as it really is. I thought this was a good overall brew. This was also the last beer in the Dark Horse Holiday Stout series that I hadn't tried until now. I have to say all of them are good!

Photo of jcnd9803
4.3/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured out a syrupy black color a great tan head that left some great stout lacing.

S - Sweet molasses, plus toffee and some chocolate.

T - Smooth milk chocolate, sweet caramel malt and some toffee. I even detected some vanilla. Very complex cream stout.

M - Soft and creamy. Medium bodied.

D - This is definitely one of my favorite milk stouts. Dark Horse always come through for me!

Photo of PretzelCity
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer poured out thick and black like motor oil, with a one inch mocha head that slowly faded away almost entirely. The nose is rich chocolate and roasted malt. The taste is sweet but not heavy on lactose sugars. The body of the taste is more roasted malts, chocolate and some bitter hops. Full bodied and rich, this one coats the mouth as it rolls over the tongue. Chewy and well carbonated, this beer is pretty smooth and drinkable. No real noticeable traces of alcohol. Interesting beer. Not really like other milk/sweet stouts I've had but a very good beer. Good complexity, this one really comes together nicely. Not my favorite milk stout but a solid offering from an excellent brewery.

Photo of homebrew311
4.09/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: appears black and viscous, no head

S: huge roasted barley and chocolate on the nose, some toffee and oats, everything is very bold and pronounced... very nice

T: sweet caramel on the front followed by roasted barley and dark chocolate

MF: thick and chewy, medium carbonation

D: Dark Horse makes a lot of stouts which all tend to have a very bold and roasty profile which I love... this one is no exception. This is one of the better cream stouts I have tried.

Photo of BierFan
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a pint glass.

Appearance: Thin brown head on a black body. Even the pour was pitch black.

Smell: Roasty kind of coffee-like. Sweet creamy smell.

Taste: Dang! Starts off with a velvety smoothness. Sweet creaminess and bitter dark chocolate flavors follow it up.

I'd love to do a side by side comparison between this and Bell's Double Cream Stout.

Photo of BigMike
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip.
This beer is pretty much black. Not quite engine oil black as there is the slightest hint of dark brown. The head is 1 finger and is light brown espresso color. Almost looks like melted chocolate icecream.

On the nose i get some milk chocolate. I'm also getting faint aromas of roasted nuts and a very faint amount of blueberry believe it or not. A slight coffee in the background.

Taste is kind of a let down after that great smell. Light chocolate, light coffee and that blueberry background is there again too.

I'm going to check some other reviews after i do mine to see if anyone else thought this was super watery. Very light bodied for a stout. It's in your mouth and then gone like it was never there. One of the lighter stout i have ever had. Especially at 8%.

Drinkability is good do to the fact its very light. Almost reminds me of a guinness draft. I would call this an above average stout but nothing i would seek out again. On a 100 point scale i'd go 83/100

Photo of BeerImmediately
4.27/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle into shaker at 50 degrees.

Pours with 3F grey/brown head on top of 90% opaque black body. Head fades to ring, and no lacing to speak of.

Aromas of dark milk chocolate, roasted coffee beans, and a hint of woodsy/bark-like finish.

I'm often disappointed by milk stouts, but this flavor was really nice. Heavier on the rich coffee character, touch of cream, and plenty of sweet malty goodness.

Nice mouthfeel - not thick, but does leave a bit of film on the tongue afterward. Carbonation is light, and this is as the name suggests - creamy.

Really high drinkability in my book - the first couple sips take some acclimating to, but once the train leaves the station, you are rollin'.

Photo of objectivemonkey
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Into a pint glass, pours a pretty opaque black with a nice tan head to start off with. Not much lacing, and the head evaporates into nothing. The aroma leaves a little to be desired, a little bit of roasty malts, chocolates, maybe some coffee or something. Pretty tame. The taste is a bit better, and mouth is superb. Fairly stock, it has nice roasties, chocolates, coffees, with the bit of lactose to boot, maybe a bit of berry, but perhaps only because I was trying to look for it. The mouth, as stated, is lovely, very thick, smooth, nicely carbonated. in all, a pretty good beer.

Photo of drpimento
4.14/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Nummy. Poured with a small fine tan head and a tiny bit of lace. Color is an opaque oily black. Aroma is very malty, roasty, toffee/burnt sugar sweet and a hint of vanilla. Ditto the taste. Extremely drinkable. Body is luscious and carbonation is good. Finish is super easy, a bit long. Solid beer. Session if you're in this kind of mood.

Photo of Beerzebub
4.45/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Thanks mikey711!

12 oz bottle poured into an imperial pint glass at 53F.

Black, with a very small dark tan head.

Sweet, roasty aroma. Coffee, molasses, cocoa, and caramel.

Tastes like medium-sweet cafe au lait up front, rich and delicious, with cocoa and caramel undertones. Then it becomes darker, roasty and dry in the finish. Long finish, dry roasty cocoa.

The carbonation is superfine, soft and cushy. Exceptional smoothness and the dry finish make this ridiculously drinkable.

Great beer, I enjoyed this.

Photo of mgbickel
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a standard pint glass. Formed a two finger chocolate milk colored head. The tightly packed foam receded down to tiny wispy swirls on the body. Speaking of which, you cannot get a darker, blacker body. It is a light eating glass of liquid onyx.

The nose has fresh ground coffee up front...along with a malted milkshake aroma lingering behind. The backbone is a sweet roasted malt aroma.

The first flavors you taste are cream and coffee...very smooth transition into the roasted malt character. The aftertaste is a little more bitter, like black coffee...maybe a french vanilla flavored bean.

The mouth feel is medium, creamy and oily. Mild carbonation...just the right amount.

Very drinkable. A great example of the style. Will do my best to keep this one stocked!

Photo of WYVYRN527
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Split a four pack two by two witht the Too and the Tres. The Too pours a dark brown, with little light shining through. Tan head settles slowly, and lacing is very decent. The smell is once again typical of this brewery. Sweet malty character, with caramel, chocolate and coffee. Hops are only slightly present. Taste is more intense than the aroma. Coffee, dried fruit, toast, and earth are present. Drying hops finish off this brew with floral character. Flavors develop more as the beer warms. This stout is medium-bodied, and the flavors, while there, are somewhat faint. Overall, Too is a good beer and worth picking up if it is available. It's easy to drink, and nicely represents what Darke Horse has to offer.

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Dark Horse Too Cream Stout from Dark Horse Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 1,047 ratings.