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Dark Horse Too Cream Stout - Dark Horse Brewing Company

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Dark Horse Too Cream StoutDark Horse Too Cream Stout

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412 Reviews
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Reviews: 412
Hads: 1,083
Avg: 3.89
pDev: 16.2%
Wants: 73
Gots: 121 | FT: 3
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Winter

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Beer added by: Mitchster on 02-05-2003

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Reviews: 412 | Hads: 1,083
Photo of SerialTicker
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottled October 3rd 2013 and poured March 18th 2014. Into a shaker pint, unfortunately. $2.19 for a single bottle.

Appearance: Black with a head that fizzes away quickly and loudly -- sounds like pop. All that remains is what looks like black water with only a few carbonation bubbles rising from the bottom.

Smell: Hm. Nice. Roasty for sure, but sweetness that creates a bit of a caramel, milk chocolate, and vanilla character. A sweet smelling roast is the primary smell, with the other notes being a bit underlied.

Taste/feel: Definitely a solid beer. Doesn't strike me as being too much different than One Oatmeal stout, just that this one has a bit more "oomph", and a less mouthfeel.. they really are both quite similar beers. The carbonation is pretty mild, but prickly, on this beer, and the texture is a bit thin. The flavor is unlike the smell, as it's just a lot of coffee flavored roastiness, with a subtle vanilla sweetness. As it warms, more sweetness comes through along with... dark fruits? It seems out of place in a cream stout. I do like that it adds another dimension, but it's not what I look for in the style.

A very good cream stout, but not the best I've had. It looks ugly in the glass, but it has a pleasing aroma, and a pretty good flavor. The mouthfeel is a bit of a bummer, but Too remains enjoyable regardless. I prefer One to Too just because it is a bit more drinkable, with a nicer feel on it.

Quick Edit: I recommend getting the sediment in the bottle, as it thickens up the brew considerably and really pushes it over the top. After doing that, it turned a very good beer into a great one. You gotta get that all in the bottle.

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Photo of Brenden
4.22/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

This is a good-looking stout, decently thick without appearing to be overbearing, a moderate viscosity to it. It has a touch of a red sheen in a very dark brown body. The head, medium brown, forms a sturdy crown roughly a finger tall that sits stubbornly for the duration and leaves a mix of ringing, patching, netting and spotting.
A rich malts backbone provides plenty of roast with a bit of creamy sweetness, some coffee and cocoa particular to a big stout of the dark and dark roast varieties. A whiff of dark fruits eases into the end.
Lots of roast and char manages to avoid astringency. The only thing I'd ask for is a touch more sweetness (there's a little) and a less subtle lactose addition. As such, it's a great stout.
It's thick and rich with a moderate viscosity that gives great body and smoothness without sitting like a brick. There's just the slightest crispness, enough to keep it lively and interesting, and the smoothness pulls even into the roasty finish.

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Photo of BradC
4.39/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours jet black with a tan head

Smells of roasted grain, dark toasted coffee and burnt chocolate.

Tastes of burnt coffee, roasted grains and a hint of chocolate, firm hop bitterest finish. Don't get much sweetness as in other sweet stouts. Sweetness emerges a little as it warms, but not much.

A good amount of carbonation gives your tongue a tingle when it hits your mouth nag brings out more so the bitterness.

Overall, a great stout, I like them dark and roasty and this one delivers.

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Photo of papat444
3.93/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle, bottled 297-13 (Oct. 24, 2013).

One of the blackest pours i've seen, viscous and thick. Bubbly dark brown body with average retention. Wisps of creamy coffee fill the air as well as dark chocolate and some bitter-sweet variety as well. Strong oatmeal taste, chocolate upfront transforms into smooth, creamy coffee. Medium bodied and overall a nice stout.

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Photo of KFBR392
3.31/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours dark brown with a medium to thick body. A rich head of about a finger on the pour with a solid brown color. Average to above average active carbonation in the glass while drinking.

Smell: Big front of sweet dairy and silky, milky chocolate. The malt presence is also very smooth with just mild hints of roasted malt. Well balanced, the creaminess is very strong and potent but is kept in check.

Taste: The front is a funky, oddly bitter chocolate. Some creamy tones of vanilla and toffee pop up during the body but are quickly replaced by more chalky and grainy malt and chocolate. Finish is lingering bitterness and more dry malt.

Mouthfeel: Grainy, with a funky bitterness makes this brew less then desirable.

Overall: Really loved the look and aroma that this one brought, but was very disappointed once I began to drink it. Chocolate flavors are off, dairy tones are oddly sweet and bitter.

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Photo of motownfreak15
4.37/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

You can't go wrong with this beer. Perfect for smoking a pipe and reading Turgenev while feeling like a boss, dark, thick head when I poured it into a glass, and the taste was incredible. Chocolates but not overpowering. You could smell the creaminess quite liberally, if that makes sense. Heartily recommended.

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Photo of Brandegee
3.97/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pour into wide-mouthed tulip goblet...
A: Inky black pour with healthy dark-brown head that quickly fades away to a subtle ring. Very similar appearance to DH's One Oatmeal Stout (recipe tweak?).
S: Yum. Lots of toffee and candy notes on this one. It smells like goat's milk caramel tastes.
T: This is an aggressively sweetened stout, and it's delicious at first (almost a creme brulee style), but wears a little thin at the back of the palate. Finishes as a dry stout. This beer doesn't betray as many off notes as the Oatmeal, but it doesn't have a huge amount of depth either.
M: A little too much carbonation mars an otherwise silky, rich, thick texture.
O: A big improvement over One Oatmeal; a nice representative of the cream stout style. But's almost too sweet for my liking.

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Photo of krustster
4.62/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Uuaahh god man. Pure black, not even a little brown or red, totally opaque, and this is "only" a normal stout (not imperial)! Fairly dark tan, creamy head that sticks around for a good amount of time, lots of lacing, looks very oily and viscous. To be frank, this is one of the best looking stouts I've seen in any category.

Smell: Rich dark chocolate, coffee and "roast", and licorice. There's something unique that sticks out here and I believe it is in fact the licorice. Oddly enough, it smells.... well, creamy. Is that possible?

Taste is some more of that, but sweeter. Not highly sweet, but a definite semi-sweet chocolate chip type of thing, with some black coffee, some of the lactose type of sweetness, definite licorice coming through. Actually the more that I drink of this, the more it just tastes like a straight chocolate bar to me. Maybe a Hershey's Special Dark bar. Dark, but still sweet and incredible. I can see why some people aren't too crazy about this one, but it totally hits the spot for me. With each bottle I've consumed, I have grown to like the taste more. There's just something about it... the way the "roast" is so upfront, but without any real bitterness, and balanced out by the sweet taste, it draws me in.

The true power of this beer is the creamy, sticky, viscous mouth feel. It really is thicker than many imperial stouts I've had, and the "cream" aspect (sticky lactose feel, dunno if it even has lactose but it leaves that milky feeling in the back of my throat) adds even more thickness to the already pleasantly bloated body. And at "only" 7.5% that is really saying something. And the carbonation is just high enough that it doesn't die out by the end of your drink, but never surpasses the level of "creamy on the tongue".

Overall, the incredible mouthfeel, especially for a non-imperial stout, elevates this already delicious brew to a level beyond that of an ordinary stout. Bell's Double Cream was quite tasty but this one leaves it in the dust, and is much easier to find to boot. Awesome beer at a bargain price to boot!!

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Photo of cwguy5
4.26/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

poured completely black with no light coming through - darker than some imp stouts. super rich, dark cinnamon two-finger head that looked almost like nitro - faded slowly to a thin cap.

nose is of light brown sugar, bread, sweet malt, touch of smoke in background

taste is a little more complex than the nose. there are plenty of sweet and dark malts along with some creamy oatmeal/almond sweetness but there is a bit more char on the palate. the char and the light bitterness rounds out the flavors nicely along.

medium-bodied with a very smooth mouthfeel. carbonation is plentiful but extremely fine and foamy in a good way. mild bitter aftertaste with a sweet, malty linger.

really good beer if not the creamiest of the style.

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Photo of Stevedore
3.71/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, 303-13 Julian date. Poured into a Kuhnhenn goblet today, 12/29/2013. Second of the Dark Horse stouts.

Pours a very dark black body, oily but not particularly viscous, with a nice two finger dark mocha head. Similar to One Oatmeal. Not much lacing, and retention is not quite all that- leaves a thick collar and a thin film.

Smells phenomenal. Rich, intense and roasty. Lots of roast malts, coffee, espresso. Not complex, but very rich and roasty. No cream, not much in way of the dark fruits as in One Oatmeal.

Flavour profile is mostly a roast malts with some coffee and a bit of bitter dark chocolate. I don't get much cream, but on the back-end, there is a funny taste that makes me think I'm drinking room temperature milk.. which isn't exactly a tasty feeling. It's bittersweet, almost. There is a wateriness in the middle with a nice rich roastiness in the beginning and a bitter coffee and chocolate back end, but I cannot help but feel there is something missing in the middle. Not bad by any means, but this omission is pretty obvious to me.

A bit on the thinner side of medium, very good carbonation does help make up for this a bit. Watery, not particularly substantial though. Aftertaste is a bitter coffee mixed in with a little bit of sweet chocolates; it doesn't come together quite that well actually. Not the most well-executed stout.

Solid stout offering, I prefer One Oatmeal to this. It's missing something in the middle, perhaps some lactose sweetness of which I did not get, and its a bit watery. If the Cream aspect was talking about lactose, I did not get much of it. If it was referring to a Cream mouthfeel, it's halfway there but it is not anything like Bell's Double Cream Stout. An interesting stout to try, but I won't be getting this one again.

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Photo of mc4z
3.9/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle. Pours a pitch black color with a cinnamon colored head. The head dissipates quickly and there is minimal lacing. The nose is roasty with hints of chocolate, coffee, and cream. The taste is mostly roasted malt with chocolate and coffee flavors being the most dominant. There is a subdued sweetness and a lingering hop bitterness that I did not expect. The mouthfeel is smooth and this is quite drinkable for the style. Overall I like this beer but I expected it to be a good bit sweeter.

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Photo of CMUbrew
3.84/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: Black color and dark brown head that doesn't hang around long. Pretty typical.

S: Pretty big darkly roasted malt aroma. Slight coffee.

T: Roasted malt, very dark and bold. Sweet edge that is mostly pushed out by the strong roast.

M: Pretty smooth and full.

O: A solid stout from Dark Horse, definitely better than One from the stout line.

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Photo of Pencible
4.11/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured an opaque black with moderate dark tan head. (Same beautiful look as One.)
S: It smelled like bittersweet mocha and cream.
T: It tasted like rich dark chocolate and roasted coffee, with some cream. It had a clean bittersweet aftertaste.
M: It was fairly thick with moderate carbonation. Nice big body.
D: This was a better stout than One, with nice scent and taste and body. The finish was smoother too, so it was easy to drink. Still nothing special, but more enjoyable to try.

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Photo of alucardswordlol
4.09/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured this beer out a bottle into a glass.

Appearance - Dark brown with a caramel head that retains quite well.

Smell - Light chocolate and coffee aromas.

Taste - Solid amount of coffee up front, then

Mouthfeel - G

Overall - Great cream stout, up there with Bells double.

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Photo of hopsolutely
3.81/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle picked up recently in Michigan. Pours a silky, oily black with a coffee coloured head that disappears more quickly than I expected given its visual density. Beautiful aroma of both dark and milk chocolate plus roasted dark and chocolate malts. The whole chocolate spectrum, with vanilla and coffee tones lightly riding on the malts. The lactose and silky sweetness in more pronounced in the flavour, which is very suitable for the style but might be challenging to enjoy more than one in a sitting. Nice coffee and hop bitterness to the finish which has a pleasing bite and stops it from becoming cloying.

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Photo of falloutsnow
3.68/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

From: Binny's, Champaign, IL
Date: None on bottle, 2012 release
Glass: New Belgium globe glass

Dark Horse's "Too" is a very good cream stout, with a subtle sweetness resting atop a fairly rich display of roasted malt, chocolate, coffee, vanilla, and brownie-like flavors. While I enjoyed this, I felt "One" had a richness and slight harshness that the addition of the lactose seemed to diminish a bit. I would seek this out again if I was not able to find "One."

Pours a 1.5cm tall head of dark tan to brown-colored foam, made up of small to medium-sized bubbles, creating a fairly dense looking mass of foam. Retention length is less than average, lasting less than a minute in a quick decline to a thin film of residual foam resting atop the body of the beer. Body is a dark brown to black color, light showing a slight amber-brown hue. Beer is opaque, no carbonation perceived.

Aroma is a bit mild, particularly when compared to the oatmeal stout in this series. Primarily of diffuse roasted malts with a bit higher sweetness than the oatmeal stout, with very subtle hints of charred toast, biscuit, brownie, and caramel. Not unpleasant, but not a particular standout, either.

The overall flavor of the beer is one of roasted malt with slight sweetness resting atop the dark chocolate and roasted coffee flavors. Front of palate is of roasted malt, dark chocolate, and roasted coffee beans, but with a moderate sweetness that simultaneously adds a new flavor, but smooths and lessens the others somewhat. Similarly, the mid-palate features roasted malts, dark chocolate, brownies, roasted coffee beans, cream, hints of vanilla, and a mild sweetness glazing over the top of these flavors. Back of palate features rosated malt, dark chocolate brownies, a bit of burnt biscuits, slight vanilla, and a continued sweetness across these flavors. Aftertaste is fairly sweet, combined with acrid roasted malt character and very dark chocolate, lends to a flavorful, if not overly complex lingering flavor.

Beer is medium bodied with medium-low levels of carbonation, which results in a maintains a gentle foaminess, substantial smoothness, moderate heaviness, and velvety creaminess, providing an excellent mouthfeel. Generally close to, but a bit lighter than Dark Horse's oatmeal stout. Closes dry, with mild stickiness on the palate and mild astringency from the roasted malts.

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Photo of ChrisKayler
4.31/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Glass: Duvel Tulip.

Appearance: Pours like a dark motor oil. A somewhat aggressive pour produced barely a half finger of brown head, which quickly dissipated. No lacing.

Smell: Roasted semi-dark chocolate, a bit of coffee, bread, the slightest bit of caramel. That lactose / cream / metallic scent is always present in the background. This smells very good!

Taste: Chocolate initially for a brief portion of a second, transitioning to metallic lactose bitterness, changing again to mellow creamy goodness. The aftertaste is back again to roasted malts and chocolate.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with medium carbonation. A tiny bit of syrupy sweetness is left on the tongue and lips. Wet finish.

Overall: My favorite milk stout to date. A really excellent, smooth, chocolate taste combined with the sweetness and slight metallic puckering of the lactose. I was surprised that I liked this one so much ... would definitely drink it again!

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Photo of mvanaskie13
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a sam adams custom glass, color is deep black, head is dark tan and thin but clings some to the glass in a ring.

Smell is a wonderful blend of chocolate, espresso, roasted malts hints of bitterness and a light lingering sweetness.

Taste is again a great blend of roasted malt, chocolate and espresso flavors, some light bitterness and a lingering, somewhat thick sweetness.

Mouthfeel, as indicated by the taste is a lingering sweetness throughout, but not cloying, enough bitterness to back this somewhat dense stout.

Overall, a very solid sweet/milk stout, great mix of chocolate, espresso and roast to create a wonderful tasting and smelling brew.

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Photo of Doppelbockulus
3.77/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

This beer is so dark, it blocks out the sun. I held it up to the sun after pouring and couldn't see any light. The head is even dark brown, fantastic achievement. This beer is like a black hole, sucking the light out of everything, and only allowing a peek at it's existence.

The smell is pleasantly present. Imagine filling a leather shoe with something like tea leaves, then putting it in a hickory box, and burying it in a mound of really rich and dark dirt in the middle of a sun-beaten field....for a few months to bake all the fragrance in. Come back after a while, dig up and open the box, and sniff.

Flavor is full of earth and roasted malt. Put that tea filled shoe I was talking about into a kettle with all the regular ingredients you would expect to find and add hot water. Let that mixture ferment for a bit, pour a glass and drink.

This is where the tannin makes a slight appearance, you can feel its mild character. A creaminess is present, but challenged by a tingle that doesn't let your mouth get too relaxed while enjoying it.

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Photo of GoldHorde
4.89/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Dark Horse Too Cream Stout:

Now THIS is what I expect when a stout is served!

Blindfolded - you would never guess another style. Thick and creamy mouthfeel, with a strong espresso edge. Blindfold off, you find exactly what you are tasting - am opaque black serving topped with a mocha foam head.

Strong enough to stand up to a pairing with a maduro cigar or an Austrian-Hungarian game stew.

A = Beautifully black, absolutely opaque with the dense, forbidden blackness of a black hole from which not even light escapes.
S = espresso charges up the nostrils
T = deeply espresso with a bourbon edge
M = Thick and creamy - thoughts turn to adding this to my bathwater...
O = This is EASILY in my top five Stouts.

Beautiful job Dark Horse!

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Photo of Cylinsier
4.05/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

12 oz.

Pours jet black, thin nut brown film for a head dissipates to nothing.

Smells of oak, smoke, bourbon, caramel, cocoa and coffee.

Rich flavor of bourbon, cocoa, burnt oak, vanilla bean and coffee with a notable hint of cream.

Medium to full, creamy body with a light tingle of carbonation on the tip of the tongue.

Above average stout, good flavor and body at a not-too-high abv, definitely worth having. Hadn't had a good stout in a while, this hit the spot.

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Photo of sjones5045
3.38/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours dark as expected with a minimal bronze head. The smell is very bitter with a kind of tin nose as well. Much like the smell the taste is extremely bitter chocolate. This is not for me but if you are a bitter chocolate fan than you will definitely like this. The upfront taste is not bad but really the downfall of this beer is the aftertaste. Very bitter and leaves a faint harsh taste on the tongue. I don't find this creamy or a milk stout. if there was a bitter stout category this would be a prefect fit. Would not buy this again.

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Photo of DudMan
3.91/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours dark with a tan head. Smells of burnt chocolate. Tastes like bitter chocolate. The mouthfeel is creamy, silky smooth. Overall, a decent beer for the style. If you like your cream stout bitter this is for you. I like it and would drink it again.

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Photo of Mattyb79
4.09/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is my third in the Dark Horse Stout series. Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a Hardywood tulip.

Appearance: Pours a very dark brown with about a 1 1/2 finger head with a vigorous pour. Looks almost completely black in the glass with just a small touch of light coming through showing slight reddish brown hues.

Smell: I get a lot of cocoa/chocolate notes right off the bat. It's a little hard to get past that, but I can catch some roasted malts maybe and a slight vanilla. As the beer warmed, I got a little coffee as well.

Taste: Sweet, dark chocolate right off the bat. I expected this based on the nose, but what I did not expect was the solid amount of coffee/espresso notes that I got. Definitely a cream stout, but has a much more pronounced bitterness at the finish than most of the style.

Mouthfeel: Very thick and creamy mouthfeel, this one coats the tongue with all its wonderful goodness. This is my favorite of the 3 Dark Horse Stout series I have had so far.

Overall: I would have this higher than a 4, but the taste is way too close to a RIS to really rank it super high in this style. I really enjoyed the beer, just doesn't quite fit as a cream stout to me. That being said, I will purchase more of this and enjoy every drop!

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Photo of Vogie
4.65/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

First time trying a Dark Horse beer.

P: Served in a Samuel Smith stout glass. Pour is jet black with about a finger or so of mocha head that quickly disappears leaving a little lacing around the outside.

S: Roasted malts, dark chocolate, lactose

T: Getting a creamy dark chocolate taste. Cream first followed by dark chocolate and roasted malt bitterness on the back.

M: Creamy, bitter, light to medium body.

O: A good Sweet Stout, however I did like Samuel Smiths Organic Chocolate Stout a bit better. I was getting more bitter than sweet in this beer. A solid stout that I would have again but would seek out...

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Dark Horse Too Cream Stout from Dark Horse Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 412 ratings.