Kronenbourg 1664 Blanc (DUPLICATE) - Brasseries Kronenbourg

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Kronenbourg 1664 Blanc (DUPLICATE)Kronenbourg 1664 Blanc (DUPLICATE)

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BA SCORE
79
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191 Ratings
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Ratings: 191
Reviews: 60
rAvg: 3.44
pDev: 19.19%
Wants: 9
Gots: 17 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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France

Style | ABV
Witbier |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

1664 Blanc est une bière blanche fraîche et fruitée. De par sa saveur et son design, elle incarne l'élégance et le goût à la française dans l'univers des bières blanches.

Authentique, elle est accessible et légèrement fruitée, révélant des arômes subtils d'agrumes, de citron et de coriandre.

(Beer added by: wl0307 on 09-03-2005)
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Photo of mintjellie
2.7/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Yellow and opaque with protein haze. Good, tight head formation, only somewhat well-retained, with very little lace. Strong aroma of oranges and apricots. Tastes peachy and citrusy with a slight tang from the wheat malt and a hint of cantaloupe. It's a little bit on the sweet side without being cloying, perhaps from the glucose adjunct listed on the label? The fruit has a slightly artificial character to it, like the fuzzy peach candies Maynards manufacture. That doesn't put me off of it, I like those candies, but I prefer the natural citrus flavours of a more traditional witbier. Light-bodied with lots of fine carbonation and a soft, fluffy mouthfeel. A decent witbier that could be better if a little more attenuated and less artificial tasting.

Photo of peensteen
3.2/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Hazy pale light golden colour, 1.5 fingers of white head, sticky and fluffy with some lace. Smell is full of orange, sweet and fruity candy scents, some spice, floral with some yeasty wheat scents deep down. Taste is fruity with lots of orange, citrus flavours, some malt present, spice is subtle with a citrus and orange aftertaste. High carbonation, light-medium feel, medium body, pretty refreshing though. This is way to sweet and fruity to be considered an authentic wit, I can see the appeal of this stuff but this is certainly not something I will be coming back to.

Photo of hotsudge
3/5  rDev -12.8%

Photo of mdevonshire
4.5/5  rDev +30.8%

Photo of hockeybarbie
5/5  rDev +45.3%

Photo of Conrad
3.75/5  rDev +9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This one took me by surprise. I was not expecting a girly fruit beer. It has the traditional hallmarks of a wit: cloudy, citrus aroma, nice hops backbone, gentle effervesence. The fruit in the aroma is startling. Banana, melon, grapefruit, and some underlying gentle spices. I like the unusual blue bottle (not coated in plastic or paper as the BA sample shows). Body and mouthfeel is a bit thin and watery, but it goes down easy. Long finish, with the fruit taste hanging around for a while. It is still a refreshing brew, and I enjoyed it. I would probably enjoy it more at a hot summer BBQ instead of a cold January in Ontario.

Photo of papawu76
3/5  rDev -12.8%

Photo of Intrinsic
4.1/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I am thoroughly surprised by this beer. It looks absolutely amazing, a very light, cloudy green tea colour with a very healthy head and great retention. The smell hints of banana (like those popsicles you used to get at the corner store) and citrus. Its incredibly light and tasty, with fruit flavours that go perfectly in a witbier. In fact, this takes second place in the witbier category for me, after Hoegaarden. This beer is very underrated.

Photo of LoveBeerNo7
3.25/5  rDev -5.5%

Photo of djcreepshow
4/5  rDev +16.3%

Photo of thehyperduck
3.36/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Standard-sized bottle from the LCBO. The words 'best before' are on the neck label, but there is no date underneath or anywhere near them. The logical assumption to make here is that this bottle will remain fresh indefinitely, or at least until the universe undergoes some sort of heat death. Also, 'flavour' as an ingredient? Vague.

An aggressive pour produces a very cloudy, pale straw-coloured brew, topped with a generous three-finger head that settles down to a thin cap over a period of minutes. Copious quantities of stringy lacing coat the sides of the glass, and little bits of stuff are visible freely floating through the liquid. The aroma is pleasing - a familiar floral smell that I noticed in this brewery's flagship lager, but also some prominent peach and orange peel, with the usual wheat/yeast/coriander notes providing a bit of backbone. The spice is pretty faint.

The taste follows the nose very closely - lots of fruit, not a lot of spice. Peaches, apricots and tropical citrus provide some fruity zest, with wheat malt underlying this. Faint coriander spiciness combines with a bit of bitterness in the finish, with peach and wheat lingering briefly on the palate in the aftertaste. Thin-bodied and pretty watery. Carbonation is fairly high, but compared to other wits maybe a bit lower. Crisp and refreshing; definitely more suited to a patio in the summer than October in Canada.

[Updated Aug 31 2014]

I picked up another six-pack (on sale, so why not). This one really straddles the boundary between witbier and fruitbier. I can see this being popular with women, in that it has a lot in common with malternatives. In general I like this stuff, but if I had bought it expecting a spicy, more orthodox wit I would be pretty disappointed. I'm bumping the score a bit, because even if this isn't brewed to style, it's still a refreshing summer beverage either way.

Final Grade: 3.36, a B-.

Photo of biboergosum
3.5/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

330ml, weird dark sea blue bottle, at the Ship & Anchor in Calgary.

This beer pours a very cloudy pale golden yellow colour, with two fingers of broad foamy white lace, which leaves a few specked swaths of lace around the glass as it steadily settles.

It smells of edgy semi-sweet wheat, sugary orange citrus, mild yeast, and airy menthol. The taste is sweet wheat grain, cantaloupe, musty, juicy orange, savoury coriander, a bit of white pepper, and mild earthy, floral hops.

The carbonation is on the low side, the body a belt-tightened medium weight and quite fruity in it's mostly natural smoothness. It finishes off-dry, the melon character really persisting.

It bills itself as a flavoured witbier, and that's what you get - fruity, moderately spicy, with a subtly forlorn grain essence in the mix. Refreshing enough, I suppose, on a hot summer day.

Photo of TheBrewo
2.75/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

We pour a hazy, pale sunny colored brew. It holds a massive three finger head of chunky white bubbles, leaving a thick blanket of lacing as it goes. Head retention is nice. There is no outright sediment noted, but thick cloudiness exists, severely reducing translucency. Carbonation appears quite high. The aroma is lofty, with wheat, adjuncty grain, and steely, bitter yeast making up the floor of it. Sitting high on top of this is a sugary sweet grapefruit and synthetic orange character, which is very Snapple-like. As we sip, the taste, oddly, is an exact reflection of the nose. It is hard to pinpoint why this is so strange, but generally there is a disconnect, or some hidden flavor components not detectable elsewhere. Either way, the taste begins with bright orange extract and dirty wheat. The grain here feels wet and unwashed, giving an unfiltered feel to it. Moving through the middle shows an enhanced sweetness riding high on the remainder of the initial grain. The finish is with more bitterness, white sugar sweetness, and souring hints of faint clovey phenols. The aftertaste breathes of that orangey flavoring, standard wheaty malts, and a mildly spicy coolness. The body is medium and the carbonation hits the tongue hard, and is overall highly active. The mouth is left cooled, with the thinnest coating, ultimately to obtain a moderate level of dryness. There is decent slurp and froth. The abv is within limits, and the beer drinks easily enough.

Overall, what we found most enjoyable about this brew was the look. It produced a monstrous head which had great retention and lacing. Even the packaging was unique, with an unusually shaped label and a bright blue glass bottle. The flavoring, however, did not come through. It was clearly a wit, but it tasted as though someone had dropped an airborne vitamin C tab into it, giving a bizarre orange flavoring that was admittedly off-putting.

Photo of Shadman
3/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Very cool azure blue bottle. Pours very pale bleached straw yellow. Cloudy. Fizzy. Very little head formation or lacing.

Aroma is slight, sweet lemon zest with only a hint of corriander

Tastes pretty much the same as it smells. Slight lemon tartness, slight corriander spice. Quite weak and watery overall.

Watery with a bit too much fizz.

Cool bottle, somewhat refreshing. Better Wit's out there for sure.

Photo of JohnnyBarman
3.35/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

On draught at Failte's pub in uptown Waterloo.

Poured into a Hoegaarden clunker. An extremely pale golden, looked pretty washed out, with a thin white head and some retention. Looked like someone tried to print a picture of Hoegaarden but ran out of toner.

Nose is wheat malt, orange and peach juice. All great things, but incredibly simplistic.

Tastes like a mass market wheat beer, but with the fruit emphasis on peach, rather than lemon or orange. There's not a whole lot to this, other than that faint "wheatiness" that these sorts of brews possess.

High carbonation, drinks like a soda.

Here's the deal with this beer. It's peachy, it's fizzy, it's a far cry from the great witbiers of the world in terms of complexity and depth. But damned if it isn't a tasty way to beat the summer heat. Everyone at our table enjoyed it for what it is, and found it far more enjoyable on the patio than the usual lager/pils fare.

Photo of oldp0rt
2.05/5  rDev -40.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Bottle looks inviting and i usually rather like this style of beer but this one won't be bought again.

When you pour it, it smells good and looks nice. The first few sips are alright nothing special here. When you get halfway through, you start to hate it. It tastes way too artificial, and then you decide to read the ingredients and notice that this isn't much of a beer.

Final thoughts - You will see this beer and might be tempted but try and refrain from buying this, you will just be another disappointed customer.

Photo of spinrsx
3.15/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330ml Bottle

Appearance - Hazy light gold colour with a large size fizzy white coloured head. I can't make out much carbonation due to the haziness and there is a fair amount of lacing. The head lasted for 5 minutes.

Smell – Breads/grains, lemon, lime, peaches

Taste & Mouth - The beer comes across as slightly thin and there is an average amount of carbonation. I can taste lots of lemon and lime mixed with oranges and breads/grains. There is also quite a bit of peach flavour. The beer finishes with a peachy slightly bitter aftertaste.

Overall – I can see how this beer will to appeal to some for the patio/warmer weather. At first I didn’t mind the taste but after a while it just got worse and worse. The flavour is way too artificial tasting.

Photo of biegaman
3.58/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at Real Sports Bar and Grill, in Toronto.

I was ready to remark on the impeccable degree of trademark witbier haze until I realized that the pint glass itself was frosted. What a cheap trick! To be fair, however, the beer is nonetheless a striking aesthetic specimen: its milky orange colour is in fact legitimately clouded and, despite the obstruction of a giant orange peel, persists in tacking long drapes of lace to the glass' sides.

This is top 40 material. Purists of the style - and those with more enlightened tastes - will certainly, rightfully attack its integrity but it'll be undoubtedly popular with the masses and, even for the aforementioned with higher standards, is likely still to be regarded as an approachable enough quaff. It's unoffensive, but to be clear, is teenybopper.

And relative to the style's all-time greats, such as the wonderful St. Bernardus Witbier for example, there's no contest. It's like comparing Bach to Backstreet Boys. But given the option between Kronenbourg Blanc and other mass-produced brands, I could easily be (and was) persuaded into a round or two of this.

In both aroma and taste there is an exaggerated, magnified note of candied citrus. It is zestful, very tropical, surprisingly sweet and quite toothsome, most closely resembling candied orange peel. There's no coriander (or any spiciness or savoriness) to note what so ever. The only tarnish in the taste is a frail, stale maltiness that smacks of corn.

It wouldn't be such a bad idea for bars pouring Kronenbourg Blanc to serve it with a shot of insulin. The beer has a 'pop-rocks' sweetness that nearly tingles on the tongue much in the same way as the candy. Speaking of pop-rocks, this carbonation exacts the soda and pop-rocks combo, but the hyper-amplified bubbles do work in a beer like this.

Kronenbourg Blanc is a relic of a time when this brewery offered more than just pale, conventional lagers and had at least a shred of the gastronomic integrity the French are renown for. While its current form is evidently re-tinkered for mass-market appeal - and focuses solely on tropical, candy-sweet elements at the exclusion of all yeasty, malty, distinct ones - it still makes a pleasant beer and fair alternative to the standard 1664.

Photo of knowledge
3.95/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Really impressed with the advertising bottle, the brew itself makes you want to drink it. The beer is a french treat, and you know the french, they always hold quality high. No head on this beer and pours pale goldish white. Very intriguing smell of fresh hops. This beer is a definite try. Well worth the effort to find..

cheers!

Photo of basica
4.08/5  rDev +18.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours a hazy golden with a thin and quickly receding head that leaves a thin layer with good lacing. (3.5)

S - Light but fruity and perfumy nose of fresh peaches or apricots. (4)

T - Upfront fruity tastes with peaches or apricots and some citrus; pleasant perfumy or floral notes deck the background with a tad of spices. After taste is fairly lasting and pleasantly fruity and perfumy. (4)

M - Light on the mouthfeel with slightly higher than average carbonation and slight creamy smoothness. (4)

D - Very drinkable and sessionable due to the really pleasant tastes for a witbier style brew. I first had it on tap at Helipad (@ Clarke Quay, Singapore) and found it pretty good and ended up picking up two 4-packs. The bottled version seems to taste more fruity and perfumy than on tap. I highly recommend this as a very sessionable witbier. (4.5)

Picked up 8 x 25cl bottles at Cold Storage in Singapore

Photo of kwjd
2.88/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in branded glass. Thick white head, cloudy yellow colour. Some small lacing around the glass. Smell is lemon and orange, maybe a hint of wheat. Flavour is just a burst of lemon. This really could be a fruit beer instead of a witbier, as it falls short of the latter. Ok carbonation. Easy to drink and I can see wanting this on a hot day.

Photo of MillRat
3.2/5  rDev -7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An odd beer found in Tainan, Taiwan. It doesn't seem this brew makes it into the states. Odd intense blue bottle like spatelase wine. Label boasts "Biere blanche, fraiche & fruitee." My stout loving taste buds just left the building.

Pours a very hazy straw yellow with a decently thick white head that quickly fades to a persistent ring that leaves some lacing behind.

Intensely citrus for both the nose and the tongue, with the taste supported by a helles-like malt flavor as the citrus fades. Hopping is playing a bit of quiet rhythm guitar at best.

A medium light and thrist-quenching beer, which is why it's probably successful here. It has enoiugh going on to make you want to drink more, if only just to try to figure out what all is going on. Certainly worth getting one bottle just for the experience, not sure if I'd buy a sixer if I wasn't going to be sharing it, though.

Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.23/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This beer comes in a 33 cl slim long-necked blue (!) bottle with. The white label is placed on the neck. Pretty cool-looking (usually not a good sign).

A: Murky strawcolored, with an enormous white creamy head. Lots of lace after the slow dissipation.

S: Citric! Pineapple, lemon and faint wheat. Smells kind of sweet. Some spices as well.

T: Wheat and some faint malt, citric - both lemon and oranges (almost like hard candy). A bit sweet.

M: Aftertaste is short-lived with a small bitterness. Body is thin and the carbonation is moderate.

D: Very refreshing.

Photo of nokes
3.3/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

This was brought to me with a couple orange slices on the rim of the pint glass...forgot to request it without. That's not the main issue, though...just that it looked a lot like carbonated lemonade. Cloudy, fine, but the unnatural yellow-ness of it just seemed weird. Virtually no head, but I have to admit that it did lace somewhat throughout, out-performing the Rickards White the rest were drinking.

Smells okay, if heavy on the citrus. Lemons and grapefruits, and maybe there's some spice in there, but the citrus really dominates.

Taste-wise...it's so hard to say. I had just come from playing hockey...so it tasted refreshing and actually quite pleasant. It tasted like a Radler, actually...certainly tasty, but you have to like lemonade, which I do. Citrus out the wazoo, here, and some kind of banana-peach-something that reminds me of Jolly Ranchers. Like I said, yummy, but weird.

As a witbier, this really isn't much to speak of, but it feels good in the mouth and it's refreshing. I could easily have downed another, but I think it would have become cloying somewhere partway through.

I really liked it a lot more than the Rickards White, but it was substantially more expensive. Worth the difference? Hard to say, really. Certainly worth doing once, but will I go back? Not for the price, at very least.

Photo of notdan
3.78/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Had on tap tonight at Pub Italia in Ottawa.

Was served with very little head, though that might have been the fault of the waitress, but had a nice golden hazy body. Scent was quite fruity, nice lemon citrus. Taste followed, but added in quite a bit of berry-like sweetness and a bit of yeasty spice. Just enough carbonation to tickle your tongue a bit and a pleasant aftertaste. This was surprisingly good for a Kronenbourg beer, though the sweetness kept me from wanting another one.

Kronenbourg 1664 Blanc (DUPLICATE) from Brasseries Kronenbourg
79 out of 100 based on 191 ratings.