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Black Flag Imperial Stout (Hop Harvest Edition) - Beer Valley Brewing Co.

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Black Flag Imperial Stout (Hop Harvest Edition)Black Flag Imperial Stout (Hop Harvest Edition)

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BA SCORE
88
very good

38 Ratings
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Ratings: 38
Reviews: 32
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 9.48%
Wants: 13
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Beer Valley Brewing Co. visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 10-26-2008)
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bkilpatr

Oregon

4.3/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a tulip glass. 03/17/09. 2008 Hop Harvest edition with a yellow cap.

Pours nearly pitch black with hints of brown around the edges. About an inch of dense tan foam slowly receded leaving gobs of sticky lace all over the glass, pretty good head retention. Aroma is intense with heavily roasted malt, bittersweet chocolate, and floral hops.

Taste starts with a powerful punch of heavily roasted malt and semi-sweet milk chocolate. That is accompanied by smooth caramel and subtle vanilla flavors. That is followed by bitter dark chocolate and a hint of roasted coffee. The finish is a delightful kick of piny and citric hops. The hops add a slight dark-fruity tinge to the finish. I don't know how this tasted when fresh, the hop presence is quite nice right now. A healthy dose of alcohol is in the taste.

Feel is thick and full-bodied with a good amount of carbonation. Slightly resiny but still smooth. Coats the mouth nicely. Moderate warming from the alcohol. Drinkability is very good for such a big beer, though it is a bit heavy. I wouldn't want more than one bottle, especially at 11%.

Overall, this is a very good imperial stout. The only downside is the cost - $9.50 for 22 oz. Great flavor and the fresh hops really add to the experience. I'd love to see a barrel-aged version of this.

Serving type: bottle

03-18-2009 05:05:18 | More by bkilpatr
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California

3.38/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Even five years later, my friend still swears by this beer. However, when we came across the Hop Harvest Edition at the Pizza Port Bottle Shop, I knew I couldn't resist the temptation. This one is for you Richie. Coming out of a 22 ounce bottle, on to the beer:

A good start in the glass. The foam is two fingers thick and showing good retention. Below that is the black as ink body. Chunks of creamy lace stick around the glass, whcih further makes this beer a looker. It's tough to not like the aroma of this beer. Chocolate fudge aromas take the nose, and the "hop harvest" monikor comes through, providing pine, touch of orange, and grassy aromas to compliment the massive malt.

It's all about the hops. While that aspect doesn't dissapoint, those malts aren't worked as much as one would hope. There is some toasted cocoa and roast upfront, but that quickly dissolves and makes way for the barrage of hops. With the hops come bitter tea, pine, orange, and lots of lingering bitterness. If only the malt backbone were properly excecuted, this would be a fun drink. On the contrary, this one is rather bitter and dominated of hops, and this drink more like a bitter, strong Double India Dark Ale than a stout. The alcohol is hidden quite well. The body is full and silky, with the chink being a very bitter aftertaste.

I was glad to get the hop experience, but I was not glad to come across a dissapointing malt bill. I'm not going to finish the bomber on my own (not that I would anyway), so it looks that the second half of the bottle will be used for cooking in the future.

Serving type: bottle

04-12-2012 05:12:22 | More by DoubleJ
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LiquidAmber

Washington

4.1/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a very dark brown, appearing pitch black. Half finger fine light brown head, dissipates quickly, leaving lots of lacing. Nice aroma of roasted and sweet malt and chocolate. Taste is dominated by roasted malt, chocolate and coffee, finishing with bitter espresso and a hint of smoke. Lingering bitterness from the hops. Nice medium to heavy body. This was fun to drink, but I liked my last 2 year old bottle so much that I think the fresh hopping is wasted for me. The hops kick in too late to be well integrated, but still a nice hopped stout.

Serving type: bottle

02-04-2012 04:36:27 | More by LiquidAmber
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suncrust

Washington

4.43/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Naked City Taphouse, served in a schooner.

A: Poured a dark black hue from which no light escapes. Midnight black. Virtually no head, with some toasted marshmallow swirling bubbles near the top. Sticky lacing.

S: Aromas of light smoke and sugary sweetness hit the nose, jam-packed with leafy, piney hops. The smoke/sugar combo packs a punch reminiscent of hickory BBQ sauce. Fresh, intriguing, and complex. Undertones of earthy bark, molasses, and more rich, dark chocolate. Hops are really pleasant and sticky smelling!

T: Earthy, leafy hops hit the tongue immediately followed by a swarm of rich, rich chocolate. Complex chocolate characteristics comparable to dark chocolate truffles, with a smooth, creamy finish and a bitterness similar to powdered cocoa nibs. Not as sweet as the nose would suggest.

Detectable flavors of roasted cashews, molasses, and bark amid the explosion of syrupy chocolate, light smoke and char. Not an overly roasted beer, adding to its appreciable balance. Finish is smooth. Super tasty….

MF: The mouthfeel is killer. Rich, full-body with insane drinkability. Smooth, creamy, complex and big, but not filling, allowing you to drink a few of these without getting a gut ache. A bit chewy with lingering hops. Medium carbonation.

O: The fresh, piney, earthy hops match superbly with the dry chocolate bitterness. Unbelievable balance and character to this beer. For a whopping 11% ABV, you can't even tell.

This beer blew me away. The fresh hop addition took the original Black Flag to a whole different dimension. If you haven't had this beer, like imperial stouts, chocolate, and hops- you are missing out. Track it down.

Serving type: on-tap

12-25-2011 16:20:24 | More by suncrust
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Washington

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

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colts9016

Idaho

3.98/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a nonic at 47 degrees.

Appearance: A one finger head that has poor retention. The head is a medium tan color and is creamy with a touch of foam. The color the beer is dark brown nearer to black (used motor oil). The clarity of the beer is opaque. A few carbonation bubble are on the side of glass in the beer.

Nose: A deep roasted malt that gives off chocolate, molasses, espresso, and solvents. Other notes are toasted bread, yeast, floral esters, oak, and phenols.

Taste: A very dark roasted malt that is chocolate, espresso, toasted malt, and burnt. Other flavors. are toasted bread, yeast, floral esters, resin, oak, phenols. solvent, and grainy.

The mouth feel of the beer is chewy, coating slightly astringent, and carbonated.

Overall: The body of the beer is thick and the finish is full. This double is just okay, the same run of mill flavors with nothing really standing out. The flavors are a typical to a double stout, nothing in the beer stands out that say yes drink me. The flavor profile need to be more defined.

Serving type: bottle

08-02-2011 03:32:20 | More by colts9016
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harrymel

Washington

2.78/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Vintage 2010

A: Pours a black beer of ultimate opaqueness, and a single to two finger, thick and whipped tan head. Falls slowly and leave a quilt of the same. The beer also leaves halos of lacing.

S: Oaty. Toasted oats, tea like hops, graham. Cocoa, toffee. Nice. Very nice. I figured it's about six months out for this beer, and the hops should have balanced out nicely in this. I think another couple months will only help.

T: Alcohol comes thru a bit strong. Beyond that, we've got charcoal, cocoa, nuts, soil, tea like hops. Bitter and creamy. A near chalky finish. Still plenty of sweet cinnaon and graham flavors. The alcohol is too high and the hops are too aggressive. The beer tastes a bit burnt as well.

M: Thick, warm and sticky with low carbonation. Excellent mouthfeel.

O: Primary compaint is that on the flavor, the beer is a bit too bitter. I would like a little less hop power on this beer. Fresh hops can be appreciated without a severe increase in the hop approach - it can be done tastefully. Otherwise, the beer is crafted with likely decent shelf/cellar life, and the beer has a nice nose.

Serving type: bottle

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grittybrews

Washington

4.33/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured a deep black into a pint glass with a finger of long-lasting eggshell head. Nice roasty dark chocolate aroma with hints of coffee and spicy hops.

Moderate carbonation and a thick, creamy mouthfeel. Nice balance between slightly sweet coffee and chocolate notes with a very nice hop presence on the lingering finish. Very balanced, flavorful, and easy-drinking (had no idea the ABV was 11% until later).

Serving type: on-tap

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uturn

Florida

4.15/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz capped bomber poured into a Piraat tulip.

A: This beer poured a dark brown with a tan 2 finger head which left a minimal lacing on the glass.

S: The nose had hints of chocolate, roasted coffee and a mild hop aroma.

T: The taste was like the smell; it started off with mild chocolate and coffee notes, some mild sweetness from the malts then finished dry and mildly hoppy.

M: The mouthfeel was a medium body with a nice texture.

D: The drinkability was very good, as this was a well balanced imperial stout with the 11.0%abv not easily detected.

I last had this beer in May 2010 and since it was fresher the hops had much more of a presence, however I like it much better today, with the hops slightly muted, as it lets the full imperial stout flavor come through.

Serving type: bottle

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Lazerlobe

Washington

3.85/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Solid cap of foam, taking its time to recede. Dense pillows on top. Pours a deep brown but this is not as dark as old engine oil.

S: For being last year's harvest, this still has a huge amount of hop character. Intermingled with the stout body, I pick up some more citrus hops, chocolate baking powder, unground coffee. Pleasant but not overpowering.

T: Big hoppy bitterness mixes with char, over-baked brownie, and coffee liqueur.

M: A little light on the mouthfeel but enough viscosity that it holds this together. Some of the hoppiness would likely be covered and increase the palatability were the body thickened.

D: As my palate adjusts, it tastes like I have been chewing on dangerous and possible deadly plants. The bitterness is a bit off putting.

Serving type: bottle

10-06-2010 01:07:29 | More by Lazerlobe
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GRG1313

California

4.53/5  rDev +13%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2009 Fresh Hop Edition.

Super dark brown with thick and very firm tan head and the nicest full lacing I've ever seen.

Nose is hershey's chocolate syrup, light whisky-cherries and assertive sweet dried fruit. "Cherry filled chocolates" comes most to mind in the nose.

Mouth is rich and full, bold and creamy. Need more than one taste to fully get this one but it's a great mouth-creamy and rich.

Flavors are complex in the extreme. Flavors are an initial hit of sweet milk chocolate that quikly goes to huge bitter black chocolate; bitter dark espresso and simply very rich, thick and layered roasted grain. This is like a perfect stout mixed with a big hopped brew, but it marries really well.

Finish is bitter grapefruit oil that goes to a very long "chewed espresso bean" bitter.

All around much better than the regular edition; a real winner.

Serving type: bottle

01-07-2010 05:22:53 | More by GRG1313
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dqderrick

California

4.35/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I didn't know the 2008 Hop Harvest Edition was any different until I searched here and found this unique listing. On the right side of the label I see a faint stamp looking impression that states 2008 Hop Harvest Edition. Huh!

A - 4.5
Black, black with a nice creamy brown 1/4" head. Soapy bubbles appeared where I poured. Swirling leaves nice lacing along the sides of my New Belgium goblet. I'm going to say this looks pretty good.

S - 4.5
Very fresh smelling. I know I bought this bottle over 4 months ago... maybe 6. I cellared it at 50°F and chilled it to 35° before serving. I know.... too cold... but I like to start it off nice and cold and then do a slow review while it warms up.

I'm loving the complex smell... dark grains, some wood scent, chocolate malt, smells a bit of some high end chocolate milk. Mmmm, some coffee. Last whiff picked up a unique malt scent... slightly separate from the previous chocolate malt. Just a hint of hops. I wish I had this fresh to experience the full assault of hops.

T - 4.5
Alright! Dark grain and oak flavor hit me. Coffee! Chocolate! But not a lot. Very smooth and balanced. Not harsh at all. I was expecting some harshness... maybe the label made me think that...? This is a VERY good tasting Imperial Stout. It stands out to me by lacking a prominent sweet characteristic. I'm glad I wasn't expecting much... it would not have stood a chance of getting 4 to 6 months aging on it if I had.

Thank you for the hops! I detect them in the bitter finish.

Very little alcohol burn. By this time, I'm at 53°F (measured with my CDN digital thermometer.
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MF - 4.0
Overall good with nothing super notable on either spectrum. It feels about right with a nice carbonation and a pleasant aftertaste that is both hop bitter and sweet. A good balance indeed.

D - 4.0
Drinkability is good for 11%. I am really enjoying this 22oz bottle. However, I'd move onto something else next if I was still thirsty. However, tis expected. A 4.0 seems right considering the style and my other scores.

If you didn't get one of these... you are missing out. I am wondering how different this 2008 Hop Harvest Edition is compared to the standard Black Flag...

Arrr matey.

Serving type: bottle

06-25-2009 05:26:14 | More by dqderrick
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meatyard

Pennsylvania

3.78/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Green Cap

A-Is a deep, dark brown with a large, fluffy, beige head that slowly falls to a thick cover and leaves a lot of lacing behind.
S-Is toasted/burnt coffee & malt with some fig and a little alcohol in the end. Seems too far past bottling for the hop aromas to have survived.
T- Is intense at first with alcohol predominating. Otherwise, taste follows the nose with burnt coffee, toasted malt, a little dark fruit and hints of dark chocolate plus a dose of bitterness. What intrigues me most is the long, slow aftertastes that also include a hint of smoke.
M-Is pretty thick with light carbonation.
D-Has too high of an ABV to drink more than 1 22oz bottle and it's more of a sipper anyway.

It's an interesting IS but I would prefer less noticeable alcohol and there is a peculiar taste and bitterness to prevent me from rateing it higher.

Serving type: bottle

05-23-2009 01:22:18 | More by meatyard
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brdc

Wisconsin

4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to another kind BA, quite a large sample poured at DLD.

Pitch black, with a nice brownish head, bigger and longer lasting than I expected for the high ABV.
The nose is roasted malts, but despite a few months on it, it still shows signs of fresh hops, different than your usual RIS, grassy, fruity.
Taste is an interesting, if not spectacular combination of roasted malt bitterness, grassy/fruity hoppy bitterness, some malted sweetness and a roasty bitterness.
Medium bodied, could use a bit more punch here; still nicely drinkable, and an interesting take on the style. Wish I could have it fresh.

Serving type: bottle

05-05-2009 01:20:21 | More by brdc
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rhoadsrage

Illinois

4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a snifter)

A- This beer pours a jet black body with a coco colored creamy head that last for the full beer. This beer is to dense to see any signs of carbonation.

S- The soft smell of pine hops during the pour give way to aromas of cream and dark roasted malt with some notes of black coal. As the beer warms there are dark chocolate malt notes that really grow.

T- The taste of dark roasted black malt is rich but fades a bit as the beer warms. The finish is a big green pine flavor with mint qualities and a char black bitterness that lingers just a bit after the finish. As the beer warms the big black bitterness turns inky with anise notes to it and starts to dominate other flavors.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat noted.

D- As the beer warms the malt flavors fade and the hops become overtaken by the big roasted black malt bitterness in the finish. This covers up some of the nice complexities. This is a big beer with some bigger black bitterness. This would be a great sipping beer for the winter months.

Serving type: bottle

04-22-2009 14:24:34 | More by rhoadsrage
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MusicaleMike

Pennsylvania

4.08/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

I found this information on RateBeer's profile of this beer: "Black Flag Imperial Stout - 2008 Hop Harvest Edition was brewed in September of 2008 using 200 lbs of fresh, Treasure Valley high alpha CTZ hop flowers from the John Wilmunster hop farm in Greenleaf, ID," a mere 30 or so miles south of the brewery. I poured the 22 oz. bomber (green cap) into a big Michelob Amber Bock tulip glass.

A: The head was enormous. A solid three fingers of soft, tan head that left amazing lacework on the sides of the glass. The body is almost completely black, showing off just a little bit of brown light at the edges. The head drops to a thin lace at the edge of the glass and leaves a small island of foam floating around.

S: It smells massive! Pretty similar air to the Dark Lord, from what I remember from a year ago. Heavy on the burnt grain essence...backed up by a 200 lb. posse of freshness. Hops are floral in character. Alcohol leaves a sweet fruit aroma in the nose, similar to pineapple.

T: The first thing your mouth communicates to the brain is the acrid roasted flavor up front. It's echoed by a soft and subtle burnt quality in the swallow. Charcoal and tobacco notes appear on the exhale. Hops are used to their full effect, balancing the roasted grains of the beer with an intense hop bitterness that coats the tongue and leaves it bruised with hop resins. The burps show the floral hop character off even more. Alcohol is very nicely submerged.

M: Soft, mild carbonation. Full bodied beer. Bitter astringency left in the mouth courtesy of the Treasure Valley hops. I'm curious if the name "Black Flag" was inspired by the fact that they get their hops from Treasure Valley...The alcohol makes almost no impact on the palate.

D: For a Russian imperial stout, Black Flag is in the top of its class for drinkability. The alcohol is hidden so well, and the flavors are so well balanced (not to mention delicious) that I wish I had a damn case of this beer. I'm curious how different the 2008 hop harvest edition is from their standard year-round release?

Serving type: bottle

04-20-2009 06:49:18 | More by MusicaleMike
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RblWthACoz

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark brown that barely any light shows through. Brownish/tan head. Nose is wet hops and some coffee tones. Not a whole lot showing right now. Flavor is excellent. Really nice hoppy tone with what seems like a touch of a blue cheese edge. Some coffee is there as well. Real interesting combo of flavors. I don't know what's up with this beer, but it does seem like it was wet hopped. Kind of a spicy edge on the side of it. Feel is biting on the carbonation and the liquid is thicker on the body, but not too much so. Really diggin' this stout. There are some things that could be better (smell & carbonation), but the flavor really isn't one of them.

Serving type: bottle

04-17-2009 00:21:16 | More by RblWthACoz
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hopdog

Pennsylvania

4.18/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle.

Poured a dark brown color with a huge sized (5 finger) off white head. Aromas of chocolate, floral hoppiness, pine, roast, and some coffee. Definitely still a bunch of hops in the aromas. Tastes of chocolate, coffee, floral hoppiness, roast, and citrus. I found the tastes to be a little bit of a let down compared to the aromas (couldn't quite put my finger on it, but it was just different). Alcohol content well hidden.

Serving type: bottle

03-23-2009 00:50:51 | More by hopdog
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Floydster

California

3.55/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle with a yellow cap purchased from Cooke's Market for $10.89 last night, second of the two Beer Valley brews my dad and I drank last night, poured into my Dogfish Head snifter, pours black and sludgy, big 1 1/2 inch light tan and creamy head, decent retention, good lacing, aroma is complex with malts and I expected that after reading eight different types of malt were used along with a fresh hop flower from Indiana, lots of burned malt, dark chocolate, charcoal, and dried fruits, I was not really impressed with how the scent from the hoppiness came off, flavor was bitter, starts off with bittersweet chocolate and burned malts through the middle, lots of dry bitter hops in the finish and aftertaste, espresso comes out later on and I could definitely smell it then too, much drier than the standard version of this and a little too bitter for an imperial stout for me, mouthfeel is dry, bitter, burned, and roasted, full bodied, light carbonation, taste lingers a long time, alcohol is hidden fantastically for eleven percent but this is one thick heavy beast, no way I could drink a bomber by myself, this stuff will make you feel like you just had a big meal, more of a sipper and dessert beer than anything, I did not enjoy this as much as non frsh-hop version but it is still a good beer, too expensive though, will skip in the future mainly because of the price alone

Serving type: bottle

03-08-2009 20:17:46 | More by Floydster
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PatronWizard

California

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Grabbed this at Hollingshead's after taking down a big fat ass tanker of Ten Fidy in the company of OlieIPA and Aimstatus. Good kids. I hoped this brew would follow the fidy nicely. I do believe it did.

Fat pour from Olie, huge frothy head of mushmellow. Looks black in Olie's backyard (not that backyard sicko). Super lacing.

Smells awesome. I believe there is a hop presence. We didn't know when we opened the bottle that we had the hop harvest edition, but I'm glad we did. I smell mint? Pleasantly surprised by the aroma.

Taste is unique. Not awesome, not bad. Some coffee that finishes too bitter. To be honest, the smell is much better than the flavor.

Very smooth, alcohol is completely invisible. Really diggin the hops. If it tasted just a little better...

Overall: good stuff, I would drink more

Serving type: bottle

02-28-2009 04:30:45 | More by PatronWizard
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Black Flag Imperial Stout (Hop Harvest Edition) from Beer Valley Brewing Co.
88 out of 100 based on 38 ratings.