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Aces & Ates - Big Boss Brewing

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BA SCORE
89
very good

168 Ratings
THE BROS
94
outstanding

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Ratings: 168
Reviews: 77
rAvg: 3.95
pDev: 13.67%
Wants: 21
Gots: 10 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Big Boss Brewing visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Stout |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BitterLover on 01-31-2009)
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Photo of ryrust5301
3.3/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Looks very much like a porter. Light black color with a thin tan head. A whirlpool like swirl sat on top for awhile before it headed for the hills. Smell is dark roasted malt, but on the other hand is very sweet. Definitely has more of a porter taste and feel to it. Pretty light feel for a stout, as there isn't enough chew to it. Similar to a sweet stout in taste. Very sweet milk chocolate taste with a little bit of coffee notes that try to offset the sugar. Don't really know about this one. Nothing really makes it standout, and isn't one that i'd grab over several other choices.

Photo of ShrLSU
3.98/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one pured a deep black color with no light shining through at all. A slight head receding quickly to some nice lacing cascading down the glass. The nose is roasted coffee and and malts with a slight tinge of vanilla. The taste is nice and roasty with a small amount of sweetness from a vanilla essence and some very nice coffee bitterness. It's not disturbingly thick, but it has body to it. Overall a solid coffee stout. Worth a shot.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.43/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bottle 1971/5000. Black coffee black with miniscule margins of coppery burnt orange. The pale caramel colored crown has a tight texture, takes several minutes to lose half its initial height and does an acceptable job of decorating the pint glass. A & A looks the part...

... and smells the part. There's a beautiful, complementary balance between roasted java beans and bittersweet chocolate-like roasted malt, which bodes well for the flavor profile. Let's see if Big Boss can pull off a praiseworthy version of this increasingly popular style of stout.

Whoa! What the hell happened to all the malt? A limited release stout with an ABV of 8.0% should not feel like a 4.5% porter. The beer's lack of size has the usual negative effect on strength and depth of flavor. What's appreciated is decent, it just needs a whole lot more in the way of malty guts.

Like the nose, the taste is appropriately simple... roasted malt and black coffee in roughly equal measure. There's a light char and a small splash of vanilla as well. Malt sweetness is on the low end... and hop bitterness isn't much more prominent. There's no hook here. Nothing to keep the craft beer aficionado coming back for another sip.

The mouthfeel is thin, thinner, thinnest. It's been a while since I've seen a beer of this ABV be this light. The bubbles have a lackluster feel and drag down enjoyability another peg or two.

If Big Boss Aces & Ates was a low-ABV coffee porter, it would have earned higher scores all around. The moral of the story is that if a brewery sets the bar high, they better make every effort to clear it. Unfortunately, this (not very) limited release isn't in any danger of doing that.

Photo of jjayjaye
3.85/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Many thanks to drunkmonk for the opportunity to try this one!
Bottle #120/5,000, Bottled 11/08
Pours an opaque darkness with a full finger foamy dark tan head that fades quickly to spotty patterns of Belgian lacing. The smell is timid; tons of black malt, roasted grains and black coffee. Lightly carbonated, the mouth feel is light-medium bodied and slightly acidic. The big black malt and coffee flavors are complemented with a hint of dark chocolate. The 8% ABV is well integrated. Would like to try this one draught.

Photo of wcudwight
4.13/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Black in color with a nice thick milk chocolate colored head. Head fades to a tight ring of lace crowning the beer.
Smells of cocoa, roasted grains, and coffee. The coffee doesn't stand out as much as other coffee stouts but rather blends nicely with the other two.
Kind of a roasted sweet malt flavor. Touch of chocolate, but not as much as in the nose. Nice coffee flavor with a bitter finish. Finish is kind of acidic in a way but imo it just adds a bit of bite to the beer.
Good smooth creamy mouthfeel with the bitter finish adding excitement.
Good beer. I LOVE coffee stouts and this one doesn't disappoint. Will go pick up a few more bombers before this one is history.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.95/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I have learned a few lessons about coffee stouts over the years. Don't let them be the last beer of the night-- There's usually a lot of coffee in these. That's why I'm hitting this one at noon.

The beer is a wonderfully American Stout with a lot of roasted and toasted grain aroma and flavors. Never astringent or ashy, but with a great coffee, nutty, toast taste even without the added coffee. Not much in the way of fruitiness or peppery phenols, this beer is pretty clean with the charred grains and cocoa powder. The added coffee gives a clean Columbian coffee that compliments the nuttiness but never gets into the French Roast or espresso flavors that would otherwise dominate the beer.

The body is quite modest and sessionable despite such bit flavors. The finish is none other than the long linger of coffee. Alcohols are light throughout. The beer was very tasty and bold flavored but not overbearing with chewiness or aggression.

Photo of mikesgroove
4.5/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Many thanks have to be given to a wonderful trade who sent this one my way. A local brewer to which I was not able to get a hold of, needless to say I was thrilled to finally be trying this one. Served chilled and poured into a pint glass, this one was consumed on 04/30/2009.



The pour was very, very nice. Rich dark black in color with no light shining through whatsoever. A very large head of tan came up over the top, sticking around for a few minutes before settling back down to earth. The whole while dropping some nice side glass lacing and never really leaving a bare top at all. The aroma was rich coffee as one might imagine, but interlaced with nice notes of roasted malts and hints of light vanilla. All ABV was well hidden as the subtle and sweet roasted coffee notes were all that I was really picking up. Smooth, even carbonation was a hallmark and a highlight here. Really wonderfully put together as the coffee was brilliantly placed, not being over the top or over shining the hallmark of a very nice stout which lie beneath it. Quick, clean and effective finish here as the molasses like notes mingle with a light bitterness that thoroughly coats the tongue and leaves you looking for more.



Overall a very, very solid coffee stout here and up there with some of the better ones that I have had. I would have no issue at all with looking for this one again some day soon.

Photo of aerozeppl
4.58/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

AKA Coffee Stout.

A: Black with no light getting through. Minimal white head with some lacing.

S: Massive coffee nose right up front and in your business. Not that much else going on but who cares. A touch of roast and milk chocolate for those into that as well.

T: A really nice coffee stout. Not as much coffee as was in the nose.

M: Very creamy. Just a really nice and full mouthfeel.

D: Damn I really love this beer. Reminds me of Southern Tier Jahva without the beating from the booze fairy.

Photo of joe1510
3.53/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz Bomber

Bottle #432/5,000
Bottled 11/08

A big thank you goes out to Kegatron for coming through with yet another stellar box of beer today, this included, thanks buddy! Aces & Ates pours what else but black as night? The body seems to actually look glossy in a strange sort of way as the mocha head sits up top with good retention. The head grew easily to three fingers and faded to one becoming quite silky on its way down. A decent amount of patchy lacing gets left here and there as the beer recedes in the glass.

I was expecting a full on coffee bomb but the nose is a little weaker than I expected. A lightly roasted coffee starts things off and is noticeable throughout. Roasty grains, black licorice, and dusty cocoa all have their own little niche in this brew. The anise actually comes across pretty noticeably on the backend. The dusty cocoa and dark chocolate seem to be interchangeable and add some nice depth. This is a nicely balanced stout but I would have preferred a coffee bomb in this situation.

The flavor basically follows the aroma with mild coffee that's actually a little tough to pull out at times. Anise and roasty grains play the major roles in this brew, the soft roastiness leading the way. A mild nuttiness comes through mid-palate while the dusty cocoa shows up on the finish. Slight underripe berriness finishes things off. This is a well made stout, and tasty, but for having an abv at 8% and coffee added it misses the mark.

The mouthfeel hits nicely right up front with a slickness and moderate heavy body on the tip of the tongue. The carbonation picks up shortly and becomes slightly fast moving, propelling this beer through the back of the mouth a little too quickly and creating a lighter feel.

This beer is easily drinkable with the lighter feel and all around muted flavors. A glass or two is enough for me since this one doesn't quite push my buttons.

I expected a lot more coffee and robust flavors out of this beer and it was a bit of a let down in that department. I enjoyed the stout overall but it just doesn't fit into what's advertised. Thanks for knocking this long want of my list Heath!

Photo of drseamus
4.53/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Dark black with almost no head.

S: Rich coffee and chocolate explode from the glass.

T: Good clear coffee flavor but not as good as the growler. No roast or chocolate but damn the coffee is good.

M: Creamy but a touch lighter than I would expect.

D: I still love this beer.

Photo of LauraAlberts
4.55/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Since when does a stout have to be the beer that pins you to the ground like a bear and make you a "man" if you can drink it all in one sitting.

Why can't a stout be a beer you can just enjoy whenever?

Well it CAN - this is that Stout.

For the stout drinker looking to impress his man friends - this isn't the stout to brag that you drank last night while watching cage wrestling on Spike. As a stout drinker I'd drink this if I wanted to have several beers/stouts in one sitting.

Appearance: Solid brown/black with tan head.

Smell: Coffee beans, hint of vanilla extract, hint of bourbon

Taste: Sedated Coffee with an open, bourbon aftertaste that turns into dark chocolate with underlying vanilla notes.

Mouthfeel: Thin, this one's not carbonated, or even has the motor oil consistancy of the classic Founders Breakfast or KBS.

Drinkability: I could pound them back all afternoon. For a true stout lover, this is your session stout. Drink this and be merry! I feel like the beer god is answering the prayers of stout lover looking for a stout to enjoy like the Germans enjoy pilsener. If this brew comes your way - check it out. Great entry-level stout for the up and coming craft beer connoisseur.

Photo of JDV
2.1/5  rDev -46.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Big thanks to ROBORB for this bottle!
Was really looking forward to this one, but I'm afraid either I had too high of hopes or their bottling line isn't that great.

Pours dark black with a short lived light tan head. Smell is less of coffee than I expected with a huge unwelcomed sour presence. Ugh...

Taste is pretty dull with light roasted malt and coffee flavor, a touch of tartness, and this is actually pretty watery and underwhelming. Thin flavor, and while not as sour in the taste as the smell, the smell was unpleasant and really kills this beer. Smell is sour, taste is watery, body is thin, carbonation is low, and there really is no shining aspect of this beer, unfortunately.

Photo of cbros
3.9/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Serving type- 22 ounce bomber poured into a snifter. #610/5000, bottled in November 2008

A- Pours a jet black with a nice tan head that disipates rather quickly with a small head that goes away after a few minutes. Decent cling to the glass.

S- Strong presence of coffee flavor coupled with a sweet malt finish, also some hoppy flavor at the end but nothing major.

T- Medium bodied flavor that reminds me of a black coffee, has a tiny malt finish near the end. Also has a cough syrup type mouthfeel, not that encouraging.

Bought this at Sam's Bluelight in Durham and am satisfied but not overwhelmed. This is my first offering from Big Boss out of Raleigh and I plan on getting some of their other stuff. HOwever this was not a great representative of the American Stout. Somewhat strong but not imposing, a decent offering from Big Boss but I probably would not get this again. Somewhat of a let down in the flavor category, pours nice and looks good but something is lost from glass to your mouth. Even though I would not buy this agian I would suggest trying this if given the opportunity.

Photo of gford217
3.28/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22oz bottle courtesy of OldStyleCubFan poured into a snifter.

Pours almost completely black in the glass underneath a one inch rocky tan head that dissipates to a small swirl and collar fairly quickly. Lacing is minimal.

The aroma is very good with lots of dark roasted chocolate malts with enough coffee to make me notice it, but not enough to overpower everything else.

The taste just didn't live up to the nose for me. It was dominated by a dry tangy bitterness (presumably from espresso) that was fairly offputting. There is some dark roasted malts and hints of coffee and chocolate, but the astringent bitterness is tough to get through.

The mouthfeel is velvety smooth with good carbonation and very soft on the palate.

I was expecting good things from this one and the smell was nice, however I wasn't all that impressed with the taste. It seemed fairly one dimensional and that one dimension, coffee, was a little too bitter in its presentation. Anyway, not a bad beer but not one I would go back to.

Photo of ATLbeerDog
3.25/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours pitch black with beautiful red highlights outlining the inside of the glass. Not much carbonation visible. Smells only of coffee with some alcohol notes present in the nose. First sip is strong coffee but not much else. Sure there is some chocolate, and tobacco present but for a coffee stout, there is so much better out there.

Photo of glid02
3.93/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a bottle at Bruisin' Ales in Asheville, NC.

Pours black with a half-finger dark tan head. The head recedes fairly quickly into a wispy layer on top leaving light lacing.

Smells of roasted coffee with roasted malt aromas lurking in the background. As it warms the coffee aromas fade, though not much.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Roasted coffee flavors up front, with a good deal of roasted malt flavors giving it more body. The ending is pretty bitter. I would prefer a bit more complexity, but as it is it tastes above average.

Mouthfeel is good. It's a bit on the thin side, but solid carbonation still makes it go down smoothly.

Drinkability is good. I finished one glass and then another. I could drink a few of these.

Overall this is a solid coffee stout, though it has a way to go before it can be considered great. Still, worth a shot, especially if you're a big fan of coffee stouts.

Photo of RblWthACoz
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours completely black with a thin tan head. Nose is coffee yes, but some dark chocolate in there as well. Better after warming up a bit. Flavor is thickly malted with a consistent and very present coffee tone. Again. Better as it warms. It seems to mature a bit. Even and consistent delivery. Feel is a bit thick on liquid and the carbonation is slightly lower which helps keeps things going. It's very drinkable. Not really blowing me away or anything. But maybe that is because I had the Brooklyn Intensified Coffee Stout yesterday which was only a few days old at that point and über fresh.

Photo of discovolante65
2.6/5  rDev -34.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Got this one on my recent travels through Raleigh/Durham. Went to a lot of stores, might have been PSM in Raleigh.

22oz serving. Poured into an over-sized wine glass (all my father in law had to use) pours an oil black with no visible carbonation, nice big fat espresso colored head about 1 inch thick that retreated into some pretty lacing that lasted throughout.

Smell is fresh ground coffee, little bit of roasted malt, and some hops presence at the end.

Taste is bitter black coffee with some...figs? cherries? and some anise on the very end, more in the "smaste" than the taste.
Not a lot of alcohol in this, but it's not well hidden. Not at all as complex as I expected.

Mouthfeel is sticky and almost unlikable. I say this because it is entirely too full bodied for the lack of big, complex flavor.

Drinkability, well, I opened it, so I gotta finish it. I'm not sure if they hit the mark on this one. I don't hate it, but I wouldn't seek it out again. I bought a lot of local stuff while visiting the in-laws, this was one of them, maybe the hells belle will be closer to style and more enjoyable.

Wow, I had no idea I was only the third reviewer!

Photo of beachbum1975
3.8/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Wow, I can't believe I'm the 2nd one to ever review this beer. I feel like a celebrity! Is this my 15 minutes of fame???? Ha ha ha

First and foremost - thanks go out to pwoods... See, he forgot to take this home last night (don't worry, Patrick - I still have a bottle in the basement).

Pwoods purchased this one from Bruisin' Ales in Asheville, NC (I know because I was with him!). Presented in a 22 ounce brown bottle with a very attractive and unique label. In fact, it states bottle # 2662 / 5000 printed on it! Just looking at this label makes me want to hop on a Harley or run to a machine shop and cut some gears or something... Big & bold silver label with white text - like something from the Air Force or Harley Davidson.

Poured into my Foothills Brewing mini-pilsner glass with a 1" dark tan head . Body, as expected is a super dark brown to black with a clear brown to red edge. Head recedes quickly leaving no lacing.

Smells of fresh, heavily roasted coffee abound... In addition, I am picking up a solid, floral hops presence. Sweet malts also appear for a minute. Overall, the nose is a little lighter than I was expecting, but nonetheless, I bet it will taste solid.

Mouthfeel is big and oily combined with ample carbonation (though hidden from the quick head retention). Medium to full bodied and full flavored. Coffee, dark malts, light smoke and hops all play along in a nice blend. Frankly, I'm surprised this was classified as an American Stout and not a Double or Imperial Stout (At least, it's an American Stout on BA at the time I type...) As I drink, the big stout presence is seen with a light brown oily hazing on the side of my glass.

As BIG as this beer looks and feels, I was a little underwhelmed in the flavor category. Sure, it's big, but by the eyes alone, I thought this beer would explode with flavor and personally, I craved more big coffee flavors. This particular beer almost tasted watery at times, or didn't stay big and solid as I drank... All in all, this is the first Big Boss beer I've had and I look forward to trying more now...

Photo of andrewm190
4.15/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A very strong entry from Big Boss Brewing. Super coffee intensity. Maybe a bit too much. Almost more like coffee than coffee. Also very heavy, although not quite as heavy as the Avery Imperial Stout, another beer I had recently. Strong aftertaste. This is basically a one and done beer. Any more and you'll strongly consider doing anything your friends suggest.

Photo of BitterLover
4.38/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I've had this one on tap at Tyler's Taproom in Durham, NC three times now (finally took some notes last night). The menu there mistakenly lists it at 9.9% ABV (which is why I tried it), but it's actually a more modest 8%. This is a stout that is brewed with coffee roasted by a local coffee roaster. The label on the bottle calls it a "coffee stout", but that style was not available in the Ba listing.

Appearance: Inky black with a very modest light brown head that quickly dissipated, but left very thin, branch-like lacing all the way to the bottom of the glass. It was so black that I couldn't see through it, so couldn't detect any carbonation.

Smell: Not surprisingly, the nose was of dark roasted coffee with dark chocolate.

Taste: Black coffee mixed with a hint of dark chocolate covered cherries. At first I thought it was almost too sweet, but then the bitterness stepped up and lasted into the finish. When I aerated the beer in my mouth, I got a subtle black licorice flavor. This is a complex beer.

Mouthfeel: Thick, syrupy.

Drinkability: This beer is so rich that I would not want to hurry through it. You need to savor it and appreciate its layers as it warms. And at 8%, it's not meant to be pounded.

I haven't seen this beer in any of my favorite beer stores, but I'm going to keep looking for it. Outstanding stuff.

Photo of NCBeernut
4.33/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served from a bomber on a day off due to a nice blanket of snow.

Pours black with brown highlights around the edges, just like a heavy french-pressed coffee. Topped with a thin, frothy, khaki head.

Smells of chocolaty robust dark-roast coffee with a bit of cream and sugar. A stronger version of that coffee-shop smell. A coffee lover's wet dream.

A blast of cocoa and coffee. No citric notes that I often get in coffee stouts. This one is a chocolaty desert beer. Hints of oaky vanilla. No acrid edge...more on the sweet side, but a little bit of bitterness from the coffee helps keep it in check. No sign of alcohol, even at 8%. Mouthfeel is smooth with just slightly more carbonation than I was expecting for the style, but it works.

Photo of MasterSki
4.18/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to jefferson for sending me a couple of these bad boys. Served in my trusty Surly pint glass.

A - Pours a super dark brown, almost impervious to light, with a big mocha foam that recedes at a leisurely pace and leaves a dime-sized head that doesn't really go away. Nice lacing on the sides of the glass. A tiny bit more retention and this would have been perfect.

S - Surprise! A Coffee stout that isn't a coffee bomb! Good balance between malt sweetness and coffee with a hefty amount of cream & sugar, as well as some vanilla extract. The smell is more evocative of a café mocha - a mix of hot chocolate and French roast.

T - This is where the more bitter roast coffee flavor kicks in. I think a little bit of excitement is lost from the smell. There's still a nice balance of roast malt sweetness and coffee, but the vanilla and chocolate notes recede into the background.

M - Umm...why is this called a stout? This has the mouthfeel of a porter. If it'd been called a porter on the bottle I would have given it an extra .5, due to differing expectations. A little to thin and watery, with a surprising amount of carbonation. The tingle is a nice complement to the coffee bitterness, but I don't find the body big enough to support the flavor. One positive is the lack of that persistent bitter coffee aftertaste.

D - You can't taste the 8% at all, and the low viscosity actually makes it kind of chuggable. My wife and I split a bomber no problem, and could have downed another afterward.

It's definitely a more distinct coffee stout, but as much for the surprising texture as it is for the excellent balance of sweet and bitter. I don't think it's quite in the league of Founder's Breakfast, but it's an excellent brew nonetheless.

Photo of dirtylou
3.88/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bomber, delivered to me by Blackie

#32/5000

"aces and ates" - the marketing director of big boss should probably be terminated

appearance: poured into a hopleaf tulip, big bold mahogany body with a thick chocolate foam and foamy lacing retention

smell: im not getting "huge" coffee aromas as many others have described...dry malt, milk chocolate, light coffee roast

taste: I like this stout quite a bit but am totally underwhelmed by the coffee presence. This doesnt really even come close to lining up with some competitors (tyranena, central waters, bells) in the coffee component...I get more creamy chocolate than anything, with light tones of coffee roast, burnt espresso, dark chocolate

mouthfeel: foamy and actually rather light

drinkability: just dandy

Photo of Riverwarrior
4.03/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

S = Huge coffee aroma with cocoa in the background.

T = Big blast of coffee upfront with a dry cocoa flavor rounding out the flavor. The finish is all expresso coffee with a hint of roasted chocolate. Alcohol completely hidden.

MF = Body and carbonation just below medium. I would have liked the body to be a little thicker. Smooth and very easy to drink.

Overall, if you like a coffee styled beer, this one will certainly not disappoint. I thoroughly enjoyed this beer and will continue to pick it up when I'm in NC.

Aces & Ates from Big Boss Brewing
89 out of 100 based on 168 ratings.