Pannepot Grand Reserva - De Struise Brouwers

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Ratings: 535
Reviews: 222
rAvg: 4.3
pDev: 10.23%
Wants: 170
Gots: 176 | FT: 16
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.00% ABV

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Beer added by: SacoDeToro on 03-20-2008

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Photo of Arbitrator
2.72/5  rDev -36.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Re-review of a 2005 vintage bottle traded to me by baggio. Thanks, Rob!

A: Pours an opaque mahogany in the center with ruby translucence at the edges. It's capped by a thin, short-lived trace of tan foam that leaves a milky swirl of bubbles atop the brew.

S: Green apples, oak, caramel, and a mildly tart sour cherry presence. Brown sugar, vanilla, cola-like spices.

T: This beer is tart -- no sourness, but it's a flavor contribution that I find off-putting and clashing with the otherwise sweet body. Caramel, brown sugar, vanilla, and oak open up the palate, segueing into sweet dark fruits (figs, plums). The finish is mildly tannic, with a noticeably tart aftertaste that evokes cherries, grapes, and cola spices. I am truly confused. It's not infected, that much I believe -- but it's so jarring that I can't get past it.

M: This beer is still on the sweet and 'wet' side up front, but the finish is watery at times. It would be excellent otherwise.

O: This beer isn't quite as delicious as I remember it being. I noticed this vintage was distributed to my local beer store, and I passed up on the opportunity to buy it. Either my palate has evolved, or the vintages are different, but I've lost my excitement for this beer.

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Previous review: 4.5 / 4.5 / 4.5 / 5.0 / 5.0

Bottle purchased and consumed at Delirium Cafe in Brussels. 2006 vintage.

A: Poured a nearly black, but ultimately opaque mahogany, body with the slightest hints of ruby around the edges where light peeked through. The bartender's expert pour produced a fluffy tan head that filled the top 2 fingers of the glass, retained well, and deposited a few trails of lace down the sides. Beautiful.

S: This really opened up once it warmed to the right temperature. It presented a bouquet of apple, tannins, caramel, spices, vanilla, brown sugar, and dark fruits such as plums and berries. Wonderful to sniff.

T: Bread, crackers, caramel, brown sugar at first. The middle is more fruity, with tart apple -- the result of aging in Calvados casks -- as well as juicy plums, white raisins, orange peel, and possibly berries. I seem to remember the original having some tamarind, which isn't found here. The finish carries elements of coriander and clove. The Calvados contribution is mellow and subtle; whether it was strong before and has simply faded, I can't say. But it's found in good balance in this beer.

M: Medium-full bodied. Moderate carbonation. VERY smooth, and carries not even a trace of alcohol. I'm surprised to find that this delicious sipper is 10%.

D: I requested another and was dismayed to find that I had ordered the last one. I'd have grabbed another in a heartbeat, and now I'm on the trading warpath for it.

Photo of cpetrone84
2.8/5  rDev -34.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Vintage '05 on the bottle. Pour is deep brown with a tight tan head. Nose has a ton of rich dark malt, figs, brown sugar, red grapes, a bit oxidized, nutty, cardboard, and boozy notes in back. Taste is also a good bit oxidized. The cardboard is strong with the rich malt being faded. Brown sugar and fig with booze in back. The cardboard lingers through the finish. Medium to full body, fairly good carbonation.

Photo of Chico1985
2.99/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2.5

Nothing like kicking off a new year with a Pannepot variation. Thanks to Cam for picking this up for me since I didn't see any around here. 2005 vintage.

Pours very dark brown with slight highlights, tiny bit of sediment settled at the bottom. Big frothy beige head retains well as a thick cap leaving a bit of lacing, certainly doesn't look 6-7 years old.

Smell is extremely muted, but definite fig/dark fruit in there, oak and alcohol.

Taste also seems very muted, especially compared to the original Pannepot. Chocolate, yeast, spice, dark fruit, oak, maybe some fruity hops (?) all noticeable but very faint. Maybe the age and/or the long oak barrel aging is to blame.

Like other Pannepi, very smooth full mouthfeel, lowish carbonation, not much alcohol present. Sadly, it's the highlight of the beer.

Wow, quite disappointing. The regular Pannepot is one of my favorite beers and the Reserva is great as well, this really didn't do much for me. Flavor is way too faint.

Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.15/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2005 Reserve. Got this as an extra in a trade a little while ago. Thanks alpineclimber!

Poured in to Duvel tulip.

A - Poured a very dark amber colour - completely opaque - with one finger of light brown head that slowly disappeared. Some good lacing on the glass.

S - Intense sweetness up front with notes of dark caramel, brown sugar and toffee. Dark fruit notes compliment the sweetness.

T - Extremely sweet. Lots of brown sugar, toffee and dark caramel. Some spice and yeast notes come through as well. I don't pick up the oak at all.

M - Medium body; light carbonation.

O - This was extremely sweet - to the point that I could not finish it. It was enjoyable for about a third of the glass and then became too much for me to drink.

Photo of rarbring
3.15/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A brown clouded brew, an off-white very small head, little lacing but good curtains.

A smelling mixture of yeast, old concrete and coke.

Tasting of candid, or burned, sugar, some anisette, finishing with some old cherry seeds, rather wooden sour.

Little carbonation, a bit flat and remarkably thin, a light dry finish.

This was vintage 2005, has most probably peeked a while ago.

Photo of IronDjinn
3.27/5  rDev -24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

From a capped 330 ml brown bottle, best before date on label states 30/11/2013. Also noted is the list of ingredients: water, barley malt, hops, yeast, spices and candy. Noted for the inclusion of the latter 2 on the list.

Pours out a deep murky opaque brown, small beige head that quickly dissipates.

Sweet malt and brown sugar on the nose, candied dates, raisins, faint nutmeg.

Flavour is almost vinuous, green grapes, white raisins, dates, nutmeg, a mild woody nut husk, some sweet candi sugar. Not overly cohesive, nor impressive.

Mouthfeel is fairly light and watery at times, although there's some fullness on the finish.

A rather anti-climactic quad when all is said and done, hopefully it ages well and things come together a bit more over the years.

Photo of ptykozoon
3.29/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Comment about 100th Review)
'06

Mahogony with a fizzly head that sizzles down slowly. Not really any lacing to mention.

Smell is nonexistent at first. I let it breathe, swirl it, warm it: nothing. Maybe some chocolate but it's a stretch.

Malt, chocolate, some belgian notes, floral stuff, raisin, a hint of cherries. Very subtle. Aged in Calvados bottles my ass. I love Calvados and got nothing. This beer has aged too long.

Lots of carbonation and moderate alcohol presence.

A pretty simple quad. Nothing really going on too much in this bottle..Looking forward to trying again sometime though, something must be off with some of these bottles.

Photo of Mike
3.34/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

2005. Tastes of rubber and oxidization.

Photo of bark
3.36/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Vintage 2005.

The colour is dark brown, the liquid is clear. The low head is brown. No lacing.

The smell is heavy. Alcohol, dried fruits, Coca Cola, cinnamon, vanilla. Hints of oranges. It is overall quiet sweet.

The taste is a bit tart. Sweet notes of dried fruits. Toffee. It feels a bit tired and flat. Dried apples in the heavy and alcoholic finish.

The carbonation is light, the liquid is dry.

A beer with an extraordinary smell. Sadly, the taste feels a bit tired and old.

Photo of badbeer
3.38/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Amber red color with a tan head that quickly dissipates to a ring around the glass. Smell is of green apple, spices, and some wood. Taste consists of caramel, toffee, spices, clove, but this is also very metallic; even moreso than the regular reserva. Light bodied with a rather high carbonation. I'd try this again, but I don't know that I'd seek it out. It seems like I'd just stick with regular Pannepot over any of the reservas. Thanks to pepsican for the sample.

Photo of JAXSON
3.4/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

2009 rate.

12 oz. bottle, thanks Brad! Deep mahogany pour with really nice creamy lacing. Initial blast of single malt scotch whiskey. Toffee comes in quite a bit as it warms. Creamy and rich. A booziness can easily be detected from the get-go. The biggest weakness here is a strange astringent bitterness around the edges, which comes off as almost sour and simply doesn't belong in this brew. It's really rich, creamy, has a lot of nice components, but certainly didn't all seem to come together right. Not as good as the normal Pannepot.

Photo of BARFLYB
3.41/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2005 Vintage into a small Chimay Chalice.

Pannepot Grand Reserva 2005 goes in the glass a medium hue of brown with some tree bark like colors. The cap is real thin with dark tannish film like appearance. Smell is old dark fruit with plum being the focus. Faint sour apple with some faded roasted malt scent. Some port like quality with grape and small fig. Cant really pick up the barrel, this is an old bottle here. Taste is way left field at this point, perhaps past the point of no return. Dark fruit and some tartness has taken on effect. It's different and pleasant but not what im looking for in a quad. Plum and some apple with grape, sour grapes, Port like flavors, calvados. This is far off from a normal quad. Feel is a big medium and the carb is tame, yet this leaves a tart zing when sipped. I vastly preferred the Pannepot Reserva to this 'grand' version. Perhaps I should try another bottle of it.

Photo of kingcrowing
3.49/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

33cl bottle poured into a St. Bernardus chalice. 2005 vintage.

Pours a very dark brown, it's murky and a bit red on the edges. There's no head to speak of, just some light bubbles around the edges, but there was a pop when I opened it. Nose is very rich and malty, it's sweet and boozy. There are dark fruits and raisins, Belgian candy sugar is there as well.

Taste is a bit oaky/woody. There's raisins, sweet caramel malt and some sharp carbonation. There's lots of rich malts, a bit of dark chocolate, it's quite creamy and smooth with a fairly good mouthfeel. You get a tingling on your tongue afterwards from the alcohol and the sweet malts. It is strong and complex, but fairly easy drinking.

Photo of DaveHS
3.5/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Vintage 2005

A-Pours deep burgundy with 3/4 inch of tan head. Leaves stringy, soapy lacing.

S-Stewed fruit, prunes, milk chocolate, French oak and vanilla extract. Very blunt and flat compared to the non barrel aged Pannepot.

T/M-Thin and mildly roasty, with flavors of milk chocolate and vanilla. Doesn't show its age like I thought it would. Less herbaceous than the regular Pannepot. The finish is dry and slightly boozy.

O-Not all I hoped it would be. You'd never know this was 6 years old. It seems the extensive barrel aging has stripped away Pannepot's nuances, leaving behind a perfectly average quadruppel.

Photo of AleWatcher
3.6/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

sampled at a tasting-- side by side with an 07 pannepot and an 08 pannepot reserva.
This is a 2005 vintage.
Shared by khazaduhm-- aka justin beeber's stunt double.

Ahhhh the nose is nice. Little boozy hints of whiskey with rich oak and leather-- like my condo: It smells of rich mahogany and leather bound books. Walter Kronkite is a friends of mine... he comes by from time to time.
Little bite of vanilla from the oak... mmmm.
Some spices come through too.
This is oaky and spiced, with boozy vanilla notes.
As far as it goes, I think I prefer the regular Old Fisherman's Ale. I just love that beer.

Flavor is nice-- good finish that holds some sweetness still. Unlike the Reserva, the oaking hasn't entirely dried this beer out-- which I find to be nice.

Anyway... it's good.
Feel is solid. Firm and full body good carbonation.
Drinkability is really high.... but for my money, I'll take the regular version every time. The oaking adds some interesting aspects, but takes away a lot of those dark fruit notes and much of the sweetness that I love in the regular version.

Photo of adkirkish
3.62/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Grand Reserva (2005)

A: Sour, green apple up front, tart, w/ a light citrus hop aroma, no diacetyl, and a strong apple aroma presence. Belgian yeast presence.

A: Pours Medium to dark brown w/ no head, no lacing, and little to no visible carbonation/

F: Flavors of sour and tart upfront, belgian malt makes up most of the mid body w/ alcohol, and smoky notes on the finish. No hop presence.

M: Little to no carbonation, medium bodied, and finishes dry.

O: A good example of a strong belgian ale. The apple aroma is a good touch. I couldn't really pull out the oak aroma out of this beer. Perhaps lost over the maturation of this beer. I would not age this beer for more than 2 years due to loss of key belgian flavors in this sample.

Photo of Derek
3.65/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2005 vintage.

A: Brown, almost black, with deep ruby highlights; tan head has a thin ring of retention that leaves some lace.

S: Sour cherries, raisins, prunes, figs, light spicing, brown sugar & hints of cider.

T: Sour cherry, candied pineapple, raisin, fig, christmas cake like spicing, brown sugar, roasted nut, hints of cocao & molasses, definite wood in the finish, modest bitterness, warming alcohol.

M: Slight residual sweetness, a little tart acidity and a drying alcohol finish.

D: Decent, but I'm not fond of the sourness in this one.

Apparently it was aged in French Calvados oak... I liked Biergotter's better.

Photo of brianmandell
3.67/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Vintage 2008

-Pours a dark reddish-brown with head reducing to fine lacing.

-Delicious aroma of sherry, plum / jammy dark fruit, sweet molasses, beef gravy and cardboard

-The taste is oxidized and one dimensional. Unfortunately that dimension is cardboard. There is a pleasant note of dark fruit finishing with with a hint of soy sauce and bitter malt. An unpleasant aftertaste develops.

-Mouthfeel is silky with very fine, creamy carbonation.

-I think this would have been a very fine beer in its prime. I recently had a 2010 Reserva that rocked my world. This is a shell of that beer. I am giving extra points to the overall score given that opening any beer at this age is a crapshoot and that Pannepot has not disappointed me in the past.

Photo of Reagan1984
3.67/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to Masterski for providing this gem. Alex is a great guy..

2005 Vintage on label.

Pours with a creamy tan 2 fingers of head that fades to a ¼ inch cap of foam. A deep brown shoe polish color with some orange tones at the edges. Not much in the lacing category.

The aroma reminds me of Coca-Cola. I keep smelling it and I keep coming back to that. There is certainly some dark fruit here, but Coke is where my brain keeps going.

Dark plum, rich deep malts start the show here. Then I get some figs mixed with a slight tartness. After the tartness fades I am left with a subtle molasses flavor and truly a little cola. (for the record, I haven't had a coke in a long time!)

Medium bodied, slick in your mouth and with tiny pin point carbonation.

This is pretty good, but I was hoping for a little more. The tart flavor held me back a bit to be honest. This is what happens sometimes when drinking an aged beer.

Photo of TMoney2591
3.7/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a Duvel tulip glass.

2005 Vintage. Had to finally try this one after thoroughly enjoying the standard and Reserva versions. It pours a dark cherrywood topped by finger of dusty khaki foam. The nose comprises fig, brown sugar, toasted caramel, light oak, very light vanilla, dates, walnuts, dark fruit, very light cocoa, and a small touch of green apple. The taste holds notes of dark fruits, pear, oak, brown sugar, toffee, clove, light vanilla, and light white wine grapes. The fruitiness is a bit off-putting, particularly the sour-leaning pear and spicy grapes. The body is a straight medium, with a very light moderate carbonation and a lightly grainy feel. Overall, it's a solid beer, but I think the barrel-aging detracts significantly from the great base by introducing a number of new flavors that clash with the pre-existing ones. Still pretty good, though, interestingly...

Photo of CuriousMonk
3.7/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 750ml bottle (Vintage 2005) into a tulip glass. Pours cloudy dark/ruby-brown with a small, rocky, light brown head, somewhat lasting with fair lacing. Aroma is heavy malt (cookie, caramel, toffee), average hops (flowers, herbs), average yeast (horse blanket, earth, leaves) with notes of dates, vanilla, and cinnamon. Picked up alcohol smells as well. Taste of Beligan candy, bittwer sweet, oak, and champagne flavor. Full bodied, sticky texture, average carbonation, and a bitter finish. Average duration, light sweetness, moderate acidity and bitterness. Too much of a barley wine / champagne beer for me. I gave it a name, "The Dark Champagne of Beers".

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.71/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

2005 vintage.

Pours a clear dark brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of toasted malt, caramel, candied fruit, and slight cardboard aromas. Taste is much the same with candied fruit, caramel, and slight cardboard flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of earth bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that seems a bit old and oxidized at this point, but it's still fairly tasty as is.

Photo of OlieIPA
3.74/5  rDev -13%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

Poured from an 11.2 oz. bottle into a Stone IRS glass at approximately 50 degrees Fahrenheit

A: Pours highly carbonated and a translucent brown into the glassware, where it then forms a cream colored momentarily. A few rigorous swirls invite the head back, but again, this aspect sinks quickly back into the body of the beer.

S: This beer entices the nose with blueberry, blackberry and oak off at first, but then follows through with some brown sugar, spice and apple-like characteristics.

T: Not as deep and rich in flavor as other Quad's I've run into, but the flavor profile very balance and pleasant to drink. A lot dark fig and spice character that is rounded out by a sugary consistency and flavor that I can't quite figure out. The oak character is robust and easy to detect as well, but compliments the other components within the flavor profile.

M: Probably the thing I disliked the most; very thin and overly carbonated. I think more body would have enhanced and brought forth more flavors that this beer obviously has, but is mask by this fact.

D: Again, not as rich and bountiful as others within the style, but I found it quite easy to drink. Especially for a 10% ABV beer!

Overall: A good beer, but if I were to introduce someone to this style, I would probably go with something else. A try it beer. Cheers!

Photo of Sarlacc83
3.77/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

350mL bottle from the De Struise bottleshop. 2005 vintage. Drunk 10-10-12, reviewed from notes.

A: Coffee black. Thin creme lacing. No legs.

N: Plastic, biscuit, rose, alcohol. Raisins, plums, and prunes. Cola. Vanilla and tannins. Very complex and sweet.

T: Lots and lots of oak. Very biscuity with a touch of prune and raisin. Lots of bitter herb/cola. Rather surprised this isn't more sweet.

M: Not as quite as round and full as Pannepeut. Lots of alcohol here.

O: A solid beer, if not as good as it's brother. Worth a shot, but I'm not sure if this is better fresh.

Photo of eric5bellies
3.8/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Drank from my Westvleteren chalice, 2008 Vintage

A - Pours a dark cola colour with a one fingered head that reduces quickly to a film.

S - Plenty of malts with oak and a dark fruit aroma

T - Plenty of dark fruit, molasses, brown sugar but not much oak.

M - Medium body with low carbonation.

O - A little disappointed with this beer. Not enough oaky flavours and considering its so hard to get I wouldn't bother.

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Pannepot Grand Reserva from De Struise Brouwers
95 out of 100 based on 535 ratings.