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Pannepot Wild - De Struise Brouwers

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Pannepot WildPannepot Wild

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BA SCORE
91
outstanding

89 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 47
rAvg: 4.13
pDev: 11.14%
Wants: 121
Gots: 9 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
De Struise Brouwers visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: MasterSki on 03-14-2010)
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4.5/5  rDev +9%

JAHMUR, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of MasterSki
4.22/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge thanks to tpd975 for cracking this bottle at the RBWG at Redlight Redlight. Served in a tulip-shaped taster glass.

A - Looks a lot like regular Pannepot - dark, dark, brown color that verges on black. Big off-white foam that eventually dissipates to a thin cap and leaves a little lacing. Maybe not quite as attractive as the normal version, but still quite nice.

S - You can definitely pick out the funk - I actually find regular Pannepot a little funky to begin with, but this is substantially more amped up. There's a lot of sweet fruitiness to the brett, with some light acetic acid and red wine in there as well. As expected, there is the regular backdrop of anise, dark fruits, and spices, but they've been pushed into the periphery. No trace of booze in the nose, which is an improvement over other Pannepots. Wonderful stuff.

T - The taste is a bit of a letdown compared to the aroma - it's a bit medicinal and slightly sour, and there is a large amount of earthy and tannic bitterness in the finish that I don't remember being present in any other variant of this beer. This is all in addition to the dark fruit and licorice malt backbone. Spices are less present here than in the nose. Again, it's less boozy - I was beginning to wonder if it was 100% wild fermentation (and thus a lower ABV), but after the description it starts out as regular 10% Pannepot before going into the barrels. I guess the added flavors and aging have tempered the heat of the young beer a bit. It's probably a 3.75 but I'll round up and be a little tougher elsewhere.

M - The carbonation is a little lower than I expected, particularly for a Struise beer. I actually thought it could use a little more sprtiz and effervescence to highlight the gueuze-like qualities. Soft, smooth, medium-full body, with a nice dry finish and minimal heat.

D - A very interesting experiment, but again I'm not sure it improves on the original beer. The aftertaste was pretty intense and would slow me down more than the ABV, although the entire 750ml bottle would slow down even the most intrepid drinkers by the end. I'd certainly have it again, but I doubt I'll ever have the chance - unless Urbain makes more (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).

MasterSki, Mar 14, 2010
Photo of jlindros
4.3/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had on tap @ Ebenezers.

A: Light creamy head fades semi quickly over the very dark murky color with a very slight brown stained light shining through on the edges.

N: Light wild Brett aromas that leads to some funk, with a little Barnyard, and little vinegar. Not too wild or funky, but definitely present. Some earthy malts to go with that, and the range of Pannepot fruits, figs, plums, nuts, spices, toffee, molasses and I even get a slight sour cherry note.

T: Again the very Panepot flavors, dark dried fruits, figs, plums, nuts, spices, toffee, molasses, some sweet syrups, etc. It has a creamy taste to it too, with a little Brett and wild fink again, some barnyard and some sour tart fruit too. Some light earthy malts too. It has some sour, but subtle, and definite spices. The wild flavors are subdued enough to not overpower, and pretty clean.

M: Medium body with lower but decent carbonation.

F: Light sweetness but mostly dry, with a slight sticky syrupy finish. SOme lingering spices, the typical Panepot spices as well as the same fruits and nuts. Again some creamy flavors lingering with a dry mouth smacking Brett wild funk hammering the dryness. A slight tart fruit wild yeast flavor too. A little warming booze on the finish as well that seems to come out more without the sweetness.

jlindros, Jul 07, 2010
Photo of oline73
4.18/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This was the 2007 version poured at the Copenhagen Beer Celebration. Poured into a tasting tulip glass.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy mahogany with a finger of tan head that fades to a ring around the edge of the glass.

Smell: Sweet with some dark fruit and caramel notes. I'm also getting some vanilla and mild alcohol warmth. Not getting too much from the wild yeast, maybe it cut the sweetness a tad.

Taste: This one retains the maltiness of the original with some caramel and vanilla notes. Getting some dark fruit and a very mild tartness. The finish is slightly bitter and sweet. I'm having a hard time describing the actual difference the wild yeast made, but they were there and I enjoyed them. I guess I need a more sophisticated palate.

Mouthfeel: The body is syrupy with medium carbonation and a super dry finish. I think the extra dryness comes from the wild yeast.

Overall: This is a very nice beer. The finish just sucks the moisture out of your mouth. The wild yeast seems to have lightened things up a bit and added a tart note, but this is not a sour beer by any means. Very good.

oline73, May 13, 2012
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5/5  rDev +21.1%

Rochefort10nh, Nov 26, 2011
Photo of Gueuzedude
4.08/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2008 Bottle; Sampled June 2010
Interesting, the beer has a light pellicle on it in the bottle, so is obviously still actively fermenting. Oh well, I am going to cut that short by opening this today. I decided to serve this just lightly chilled, perhaps in the mid 60s. A soft pour produces almost a finger of darkly browned, dark-tan colored froth. The beer is a concentrated, dark brown-plum color that shows a clearish, dark plum hue when held up to the light. Interesting, the aroma smells of overly ripe cheese that is not quite rancid, though a rich plum like fruitiness is perhaps a stronger influence on the nose. Some alcohol contributes to a warming sensation in my nose and this mixes with some fruity acetate type aromas. Richer notes of molasses, dates and prunes as well as some lightly toasted dark grain all remind me of a dark, rum soaked holiday cake or even fruit-cake. The ripe cheese note along with the acetate definitely is the most noticeable part of the aroma (it sort of reminds me of rotting fruit), but it is not so strong as to be objectionable and there is just enough other things going on here that the nose is fairly enjoyable.

Lightly sweet tasting up front, the beer has a richness to it through the middle and actually feels quite a bit lighter than one might expect from a beer of this strength. Still there is a lot of viscosity to this brew and the palate gets coated well enough that a rich, dark malt character lingers on after each sip. A healthy carbonation helps to make this beer more drinkable; though despite all this the beer is most definitely a sipping beer. The ripe cheese quality is more reduced than it is in the aroma, but the rotting, though really more fermenting, fruit character seems to be a bit more noticeable. Flavors of concentrated plum (though not quite prune), fig, some date like notes and fermenting raisin are each present and are accentuated by a light tartness. Malt / dark sugar flavors are also found here with notes of molasses, sweet rum, rich almost umami like concentrated malt flavors, light toasted grain flavors that have been soaked in brown sugar add to the general richness here. Some nail-polish like flavors as well as higher alcohols add a warming, almost heat to the finish.

This is actually quite vinous in character, though admittedly in a foxed sort of way; the aroma starts to pick up notes of Concord grapes as does the flavor. Really though there is a soft oak character here (that contributes a touch of oak-spiciness, hints of buttery richness, and a soft wood character) as well as a berry-like wine character, and flavors that I just can't quite put my finger on, but most definitely make me think of a complex red wine.

This manages to be quite rich and decadent, but without having a heavy body; the wild process has definitely dried out the base beer here. This ends up much more enjoyable than it started out as, but still falls short of that brilliantl 2006 batch of Pannepot that I finally polished-off my last bottle of recently. I really like the texture that this beer achieves, rich without being overly heavy, or anywhere near cloying actually. While the acetate, touch of acetone, and higher alcohol heat is always present, it isn't at such a level that I can't enjoy this beer; without it and with more sourness, this beer would be thoroughly brilliant. As it is I'll have to settle for the subtle oak, signature wine influence and rich Pannepot flavors, something I am perfectly happy to do.

Gueuzedude, Oct 06, 2010
Photo of mothman
3.25/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2008 bottle. Kind of a gusher.

Pours a beige head. Color is a ruby hued dark bronze.

Aroma: A ton of spice. Cinnamon shows the most. Soured pannepot. Roasted malts, caramel and wine flavors. Grape juice.

Taste: Boozy kind of. Raisins, grape juice, plums, chocolate, caramel. Wine-like flavors. Oaky and spiced. Some cherries. Big roast.

Mouthfeel: Dry and roasted. Full bodied with a medium to high amount of carbonation. Ends pretty clean.

Overall, not really for me. Decent, but nothing stellar. Somewhat enjoyable, but I couldn't drink very much of this.

mothman, Jan 26, 2011
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4.43/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at The Lion's Pride.
Came to the table a solid brown/black color with a thin tan head that slowly dissipates but never leaves. Smells of oak, vanilla, caramel, dark fruits, dark sugars, a little tart, and a little funk. The flavor follows the nose quite well but adds a heavy tart cherry, chocolate and raisin flavor. Medium body with a moderate level of carbonation and a sweet sugary tart mouthfeel. This is a damn fine beer, in fact my favorite from the night. The funk is restrained and mixed very well with the quad that is underneath!

johnnnniee, Jul 17, 2012
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3.55/5  rDev -14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

750mL bottle from baggio. I first tried this at DLD 2010 courtesy of Masterski (thanks Alex), and now I've got an entire 750 to myself.

The beer pours a dark russet brown color, nearly opaque, with a huge tan foam and sheets of lacing. The nose is less wild from this bottle than the one I tried at DLD. I remember significantly more bret character from that one. This current bottle smells more quad-like, smoke and dark fruits and a little medicinal aroma too. It tastes a lot like the standard Pannepot, and I'm wondering if Struise made more than one batch of this stuff. From DLD I remember mild wild flavors that were well balanced with the dark fruit. In this bottle the dark fruits are nearly everything I taste, plums, raisins, dates and such. The medicinal / cough syrup qualities come through a little too, reminiscent of Carolus beers.

I think this is a good beer but not quite great. If there were more bret involved that might have changed things for the better, but who knows? It's an interesting experiment.

TurdFurgison, Aug 22, 2010
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3.68/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Olga for this birthday present. 2008 batch, 75cl bottle into my Narke tulp...Pours like a regular pannepot, dark brown, lighter brown on the edges. A slight gusher when first opened, didn't explode but have a glass ready. The head only rises about two fingers, ok retention and lacing...The aroma is pretty light, expected a bit more. Oak, red wine, and vinegar on the front, missing a lot of the malty goodness that I really like in the original. Light spice in the middle...The taste again is not at all what was expected. Its more oak and woody vinegar than anything with alcohol. All quad characteristics are gone, I'm missing some of the sweet dark fruits or sugar. The finish is lots of alcohol and oak, a little sugar...The feel is full and viscous... A little tough to drink as I am just not feeling it totally.

A rare one that doesn't meet the hype. An interesting style but don't give up much to get this. This reminds me of an infected beer that is now sour, i.e. Rurik.

jrallen34, Oct 17, 2010
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3.58/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

WW5 bottle from Avalon68. Cheers!

A - Well, right out of the gate this thing just exploded, which was pretty surprising. Rusty brown colored beer with a foamy beige head from the explosion.

S - I'm not totally thrille with this. I've love the regular version of this beer, as something that is a very nice quad. This loses a bit of its quad nature to some of the funk an sourness. It smells good, but I prefer the regular.

T - Sweeter, with some grapes and vinous influence on a quad. There are some dark fruits, oak. Can pick up a little bit of roast on this one even.

M - Full bodied with some pretty active carbonation. Also, it exploded.

O - An interesting beer, I liked it, but I thought it actually takes away from the good quad nature that Pannepot usually has. Glad to have tried it.

AgentZero, Sep 28, 2011
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4.1/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thank you, Alex, for sharing this rarity,

Dark brown with a dense, tan head with good retention and moderate lacing, this isn't as good as the regular Pannepot. The nose is quite excellent. A blend of the regular Pannepot with a mild Brett influence, this is complex and nuanced with a little smoke, a little chocolate and a moderate spice character. Great balance on display here. Some dark fruit and alcohol appear. The Brett character is excellent. A little understated (and thankfully so), there's just a touch of funk to keep things interesting.
The palate is solid. Smoke, fruit, plums, and a light spice are all present, along with some toast, Brett funk and a light sourness. Just a touch flabby, I find the finish a little disjointed. The Brett character is light, with a mild funk and some tannins. Some brown sugar is also present. Medium in body with low carbonation, this beer has a great finish, long-lasting with toast, spice and chocolate. Excellent stuff.

DefenCorps, Aug 10, 2010
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3/5  rDev -27.4%

dgilks, Apr 30, 2012
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4/5  rDev -3.1%

whartontallboy, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of woosterbill
4.33/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Ebenezer's into a tulip.

A: Opaque dark brown body under a finger of fine light-brown foam. Nice.

S: Spicy, chocolatey, and grassy. Dark fruits, a bit of barnyard, and some light tartness. Very nice, hugely complex.

T: A wild explosion of flavors: brown sugar, prunes, grass, flowers, clove, pepper, grapes, Brett, and a rich maple sweetness on the lightly boozy finish. Intoxicating in every sense of the word.

M: Frothy, thick, and sticky. In a word, big.

O: I was a bit underwhelmed by this one at first (especially given its $14 price tag), but as it warmed the aroma and flavor both opened up magnificently. I'd really like to try it side-by-side with regular Pannepot someday to see exactly how big of a difference the Brett makes; I'm not entirely sure that the influx of grassiness and faint tartness is really an improvement over the spectacular base, but it was still one hell of a beer.

Cheers!

woosterbill, Aug 29, 2011
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3.88/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark chestnut with frothy cap of brown head. Scent is deep and complex with notes of fig, prune, raisin, fruit and port wine, solid notes of dry wood with a sourness is more akin to vatted cask aging than a full on brett onslaught. Taste begins with the big bold notes of dark fruit meshed with a hint of mulled wine, oak precedes a light sour funk that masks a little of the developing quad notes. Medium bodied, light carbonation. Overall, the original is cut an excellent beer that the light bits of brett really don't help too much, it actually masks the complexity.

rfgetz, Oct 09, 2011
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3.5/5  rDev -15.3%

tom10101, May 26, 2014
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3.61/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Opened at TN whales tasting 3/16/2013. Thanks to Andy for opening this.

Body is a dark woody brown with islands of coffee colored head.

Tangy funk on the nose, bananas, candied apple, brown sugar, hints of tartness and funk.

Taste is pretty odd, bananas and sugary malt as you'd expect, apple, but also mild funk and hints of vinegar and brett. A bit of cardboard flavor too.

Mouthfeel is a little thin, not terrible but it seems like the bug didn't operate entirely according to plan.

This is a good beer but odd, tastes like a great and complex quad with just a touch of sour and funk. Doesn't taste infected exactly, but there are two different things going on and they're not very well integrated. Still enjoyable but not what it was intended to be I would guess.

7.3/10

AlexFields, Mar 18, 2013
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4.38/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Ebenezer's Pub and Lion's Pride. Served in tulip, over and over. Had this one a lot...like maybe 7 times between the two spots.

A - Pours black brown, large frothy tan head, sticky lacing, large cap. This one was very frothy, sticky, and dark. Purty.

S - Nice bretty funk, brown sugar, dark fruit, burnt sugars. The brett adds another dimension onto an already stellar Quad. Really enjoyed the slight funk on this one mixed with the sugars and dark fruits.

T - More dark fruit forward then the nose, burnt sugars, molasses, chocolate, oak, brett funk, raisins. The brett is still there, but takes a back seat to the base beer on the palate, which is totally cool with me.

M - Body is medium, good carbonation, creamy finish.

O - I really really (really) enjoyed this one....at $14 a pop, it was expensive, but I was on vacation and I didn't give a shit. Chris even gave me a free one before we headed out. Glad the fiance drove back! Simply outstanding on-tap, you must try it at either establishment!

Edit: I had this from 3 different kegs and didn't experience any sour or tart notes, as others have noted.

Sean9689, Jul 12, 2011
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4/5  rDev -3.1%

cbutova, Nov 22, 2011
Photo of Overlord
2.98/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Huge thanks to Jerz for hosting an awesome tasting, and for so many generous beer connoisseurs who made the event possible.

I guess first, let me say that I don't get the idea of souring a quad. All that complex effort to get a bunch of ingredients to meld into a quad-whole, and then you wild it? Hmmm.... okay, let's see how it is.

Oddly dark pour. Light tan crust with nor real bubbling.

Smells like fetid, slightly gone-bad yeast and muted earth funk. Some breaded malt. Wish there was more breaded malt to the aroma and less swampy funk.

Taste is almost like a, I hate to say it, slightly infected quad. It's like, it didn't go completely sour, but it's also most definitely not quad-like anymore. Some weird sherried dirt with some earth funk, a bit of quad yeast and bread with sweet dappled brown sugar, but it just doesn't come together. On the aftertaste, dark fruit. Dark fruit that's struggling to live.

Overlord, Jan 11, 2011
Photo of nickd717
3.8/5  rDev -8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Ebenezer's.

Pours a very cloudy, muddy brown color with a small tan head that lasts.

Aroma is very vinegary. Besides that, all the notes you get in Pannepot are present: dark fruits, raisin and fig especially, caramel, toffee, molasses, and brown sugar.

Flavor is both sweet and slightly tart. Tastes a bit like a good fruitcake mixed with balsamic vinegar. The base beer also adds sweet caramel and toffee notes, oak, and spiciness.

Thick and syrupy on the palate; full-bodied with low carbonation.

Very interesting beer overall. I'm glad to have tried this one.

nickd717, Jun 21, 2010
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4.38/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Brown edged black without any retention or lace. Looks like flat root beer.

Dark and roasty with caramel and chocolate covered cherry. Makes me think of all sorts of nightime sexy words like alluring, seductive and indulgent.

Tastes as indulgent as it smells. I can pick out fig, caramel, and dark bread crust. The Brett is very light handed, adding only a little green grape peel hiccup in the middle. Better and better as it warms.

The Brett doesn't really do too much and I think I like plain ol' Pannepot better.

donkeyrunner, Aug 27, 2011
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4/5  rDev -3.1%

seeswo, Jan 21, 2012
Photo of Satchboogie
4.5/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Ebenezer's 2/13/11:

A: Dark brown, opaque, 1 inch off-white frothy head that slowly dissipates. Leaves decent lacing.

S: Plums, raisins, dates, grapes, sour, and funk.

T/M: Taste is much like the Reserva, but with much more port qualities and Brett. Lots of dark fruits, grapes, red wine, Belgian yeast, oak/vanilla. The Brett adds a touch of tartness and funk, but plays a complimentary role, not taking over the brew. The carbonation was fairly light and the body not quite as viscous as I remembered the Reserva. It was, however, velvety smooth, maybe the smoothest beer I've yet had. Alcohol presented some nice esters and wasn't overpowering. The level of complexity is pretty astounding and the flavors all lingered on through the dry, port finish. Fantastic.

This didn't seem as hot as the Reserva and went down way to easy.

Satchboogie, Feb 14, 2011
Pannepot Wild from De Struise Brouwers
91 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.