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Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels) - Moa Brewing Company

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Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)

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BA SCORE
82
good

370 Ratings
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Ratings: 370
Reviews: 98
rAvg: 3.64
pDev: 16.76%
Wants: 5
Gots: 34 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Moa Brewing Company visit their website
New Zealand (Aotearoa)

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: KickbacksSteve on 01-14-2012)
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Photo of Johnnyramirez
1.24/5  rDev -65.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

The appearance was the only appealing thing about the beer. I'm hoping it was infected because it smelled of antiseptic. When I drank it all I got was band aids, must have been dry hopped with plastic. As did everyone else at the tasting. Instant drain pour. Probably the worst beer I've ever had

Johnnyramirez, Apr 14, 2013
Photo of themind
1.24/5  rDev -65.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Instant drain pour! in theory this brew could have been amazing, unfortunately is doesnt just fall short...it drops off the map! This crap was nasty, what a let down. I really thought I would like this being a fan of Supplication but Moa is flat out toilet water.

Bottom Line: Drain Pour~

themind, Mar 25, 2013
Photo of harrymel
1.3/5  rDev -64.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Bottled: unk

Pours dark black with some tan foam. Nose comes forward with apple skins, ink, some hops, oak, and soil. Flavor is charred oak, tannins, bitter, generally reminds me of burnt meat from a grill. Medium bodied with really hi carb and a difficult finish as the flavor continues to linger. This is not a good beer.

harrymel, Jun 12, 2012
Photo of corby112
1.41/5  rDev -61.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Pours a dark chestnut brown color that appears pitch black in the glass with a massive three finger head that takes forever to dissipate. Looks to be over carbonated with large chunks of soapy lacing left behind when the head finally settles into a lasting collar.

Deeply roasted dark malt aroma with a strong oak presence but not much wine or vinous fruit character. Charred oak, burnt sugar, stale coffee, toast and ash. Desperately in need of some sweetness to prevent it from being so acrid in the nose. Not sure how long it was in the barrel but all I'm getting is oak and the Pinot noir character is completely obliterated.

Medium bodied, extremely dry and way over carbonated. I could see how some would think there's an infection but its just insanely acrid and dry and the carbonation level is off the charts. Burnt wood, ash, cigarette butt, smoke, rotten coffee bean, burnt malt and toast dominate the palate. Just like the aroma, it's in disparate need of some sweetness and the Pinot noir flavor is not detectable. The high ABV is well masked but this beer is an unprintable mess. Drain pour.

corby112, Mar 05, 2013
Photo of Prospero
1.45/5  rDev -60.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Terrible, agreed with others, tastes and smells like band aids. No coffee roast like one would expect in a RIS and while the pinot is apparent, it lacks the fruit character. It must be infected I can't imagine this being intended to taste like this. Like the rating suggests, the appearance is the best attribute and not that great as the head retention is next to none (somewhat expected with barrel-aging). Back to the drawing board on this one.

Prospero, May 04, 2013
Photo of MisterClean
1.95/5  rDev -46.4%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Purchased from total wine roseville, hope it's good. Shared with Abecall and others.

A - After unleashing the cage, I nearly lost an eye. As soon as the cage came undone, the cork did not pop, but fired out. The beer started gushing and oozing out of the bottle. Not a good sign and could be infected. The color was dark brown to light black with some garnet highlights. Head would not drop out, which is a little unusual for an imp stout.

S/T - Smokiness, which could have been phenolics or a suggestion that the brewer was a little too generous with black patent (easy does it big man). Some huskiness and graininess and some sourness with a rich tannic quality, which could have been from the barrel the beer aged in. Bittering hops were present, and there may have been some aroma/flavor hops included, but was masked from the smoke, husk, and slightly sour taste imparted from the barrel.

M - Malt dominated and medium-full bodied. The beer was a bit hotter than warming, and could have stood to age further to reduce heat. Moderate levels of huskiness and astringency. Additional levels may have been imparted from the use of black patent malt as well.

O - A bit disappointed to say the least. An imperial stout typically doesn't have many flaws, but found a few here. Would recommend for the brewer to age longer, use much less black patent (Carafa III is my darkening malt of choice), make sure there are no "bugs" crawling around the barrel, and lowering the original gravity.

MisterClean, Aug 11, 2012
Photo of mulder1010
1.98/5  rDev -45.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

375 ML bottle, corked and caged. Good presentation. Good to see Moa back in Australia again after a bit of an absence. Been looking for this for a while.

A-- Poured a dark cola color, settled midnight black with just touches of ruby here and there. One finger mocha colored brown head that faded to a nice film, then collar. leaving a few streaks of lacing. Half finger of head when swirled. No more, no less.

S-- Got oak and wine when popped the cork but when in the glass not a whole bunch really. Some roasted notes and some oatmeal character. Maybe some faint chocolate. More lacking for nose than anything else.

T-- Thin, quite thin. Watery soy sauce, watery mocha, watery roasted and scorched malts and oats. Flashes of wine and oak.

M-- Oatmeal stout like in the front and mid and sweet char and ash in the back and finish. Candied ash tray. ICK. Smooth but very thin body. Medium and slightly perky carbonation with a thin, weak body. Does pick up once warmed and get a lot of acidic coffee to hide the thiness in the feel so giving a few points more.

O-- Bad Imperial stout, bad imperial stout. At least the ABV is hidden well and drinks more like a 6% stout. Too thin and too weak.

mulder1010, Mar 20, 2012
Photo of hiphopj5
2/5  rDev -45.1%

hiphopj5, Aug 06, 2012
Photo of Chugs13
2/5  rDev -45.1%

Chugs13, Jun 03, 2013
Photo of ATXRyan
2/5  rDev -45.1%

ATXRyan, Feb 20, 2013
Photo of zeledonia
2.05/5  rDev -43.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Tasted 24 March 2014.

Pours dark brown, clear about halfway from the edges. One finger of medium brownish tan head. Okay retention, not much lacing.

Smell is... weird. Turns out pinot noir and stout maybe don't mix so well. The pinot brings this airy red grape sense, the for me clashes with what I can detect of the stout. That's mostly a little bit of roast, not as much richness or depth as I'd like.

Taste is even weirder. It's kinda like it's soured, but I think that's just the oddity of the stout and the pinot noir train wreck. Sharp on all the edges, tannic, mildly charry bitter. Not good.

Feel is okay, but pretty darn light for an imperial stout. It's also slick, and lacking carbonation that might give some life to those stagnant flavors.

Sounded interesting, but I should have passed this one by. Nothing good comes out of it, IMO.

zeledonia, Mar 25, 2014
Photo of DoubleJ
2.18/5  rDev -40.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

I like Moa, and their attempt to make an imperial stout aged in pinot noir barrels attracts me. Bottled in a small 375 ml corked and caged container, on to the beer:

Gusher! Once that cage is untied, the cork pushes right up and pops, bringing the force of the beer behind it. Reset. Still pours very foamy. Soapy looking suds sticking around on topand leaving a lot of lace. The body below is obsidian colored and looking pretty. The nose is two worlds, offering a good roasty and smokey stout on one hand and a sourness in the other. The melding of the two isn't perfect, so I'm a haveta deduct from the score.

Extremely carbonated and bubbly, and even this level might be too much for a Belgian. If you can get past the carbonation, you find the taste, which is a bland sourness (possible infection) and some stout character (smokey, roasty, and some molasses). Just the stout base that I can sense would make it a good beer, the rough sourness (whether it's infection or the aging in pinot noir barrels) and hyper-carbonation make this tough to drink.

That's a bust. I still like the Mao brand, but this is not the reason why.

DoubleJ, Nov 20, 2012
Photo of seanthornton152
2.25/5  rDev -38.2%

seanthornton152, Jun 16, 2014
Photo of atrocity
2.25/5  rDev -38.2%

atrocity, Apr 25, 2014
Photo of mxchap
2.25/5  rDev -38.2%

mxchap, May 21, 2013
Photo of Phelps
2.4/5  rDev -34.1%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A stout aged in pinot noir barrels. Poured from a green bottle (why still use these?) into a snifter.

One twist of the cork cage: everything’s fine. Two twists: fine and dandy. Three twists: BOOM! The bottle begins spewing foam like molten lava and the cork is lodged somewhere in the ceiling. This bottle could be used in warfare. What I manage to salvage sits in the snifter at about an 80-20 head-to-beer ratio — the head taking up the majority of the space. This is what overcarbonation looks like. The liquid is inky black; the expansive head a cavernous graham cracker-brown.

Acrid aroma. Bread burnt to char, licorice, tangy soy sauce, oak barrels, a touch of plum. Fairly wine-heavy.

The flavor isn’t much better. Dark chocolate and plum are sadly hidden behind blackened, overly bitter wood and soy sauce tang. The fruit imparted by the wine barrels is the only redeeming quality of this brew. Better as it warms, becoming fruitier and less bitter.

As expected, the liquid explodes the second it touches the tongue. A thin, whipped body quickly fizzes like aerated soap, filling the mouth with foam. Tang and burnt bitterness settle into the back of the tongue.

Moa's imperial stout isn't pricy, but it’s not even really worth the low price. I’m off to fix the ceiling.

Phelps, Aug 27, 2012
Photo of ArrogantB
2.4/5  rDev -34.1%
look: 1 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

I picked this up mostly due to teh $5 price tag. You don't see many barrel aged imperial stouts that cheap. Unfortunately there is a reason for that... First off this thing had the worst pour. No matter how slow and carefully I poured the glass was completely filled with foam. It had been chilled for at least a week. The smell was a little off too, like maybe it had some brett or maybe it was just the wine but I didn't care for it. The taste was not bad, little roast, little stout but almost no barrel character whatsoever. Overall this was pretty disappointing and it just goes to show that you really do get what you pay for.

ArrogantB, Jul 22, 2012
Photo of J2L
2.5/5  rDev -31.3%

J2L, Oct 26, 2012
Photo of ThickNStout
2.5/5  rDev -31.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Corked and caged 12.7oz bottle from Hop City (Atlanta, GA). 6.79. Best by 7/6/15, I assume bottled 7/6/13. Served in a Sweetwater snifter.

Pours a datk tea brown with an eighth finger pale tan head. Persistent thin halo and very little lace.

Smells strongly of wine with other notes of oak, dark roast coffee and an almost sour apple.

Right off the bat the strongest flavor is that red wine. Burnt coffee, oak, cocoa, vanilla, apple, caramel and a hearty alcohol burn. Not all bad but astringent and disjointed.

Fairly creamy, medium thin body with sharp carbonation. Bitter coffee, wine and apple skins in the aftertaste.

While it does improve as it warms, this just doesn't suit my tastes. The pinot noir aging adds an interestingly different element but it's neither complimentary nor does the base beer seem hearty enough for a barrel treatment to begin with. All-around unimpressive.

ThickNStout, Dec 20, 2013
Photo of MaineMike
2.5/5  rDev -31.3%

MaineMike, Jul 22, 2012
Photo of johnnyboy76
2.5/5  rDev -31.3%

johnnyboy76, Oct 28, 2012
Photo of MattXT
2.5/5  rDev -31.3%

MattXT, Jun 22, 2014
Photo of marshmeli
2.5/5  rDev -31.3%

marshmeli, Jun 16, 2013
Photo of kojevergas
2.59/5  rDev -28.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

My second beer from this brewery. I didn't much care for the first. Expectations are above average; it sounds good and I'm in the mood for the style, but I'm suspicious of its current low (by beeradvocate standards) ratings. Self-identifies as an Imperial Stout; it doesn't specify that it's a Russian Imperial Stout. Cost was $5.99 at a nearby Whole Foods; I guess that alone should have set off warning bells - a barrel aged import from halfway across the Earth oughtn't to be so inexpensive. Imported by Moa USA - another red flag, as a quaint local kiwi craft brewery wouldn't have its own importing company stateside.

"Flavored ale." Aged in Pinot Noir Barrels. Bottle fermented and conditioned. 10.2% ABV confirmed.

12.7 fl oz dark green (ugh...) bottle with attractive text and symbols on the actual glass and a hood and wire cap (i.e. cage) over a cork served into a Mitchells of Lancaster flared stem-tulip in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.

Cork pops out with unnatural ease; that is the easiest cork to pop out I've ever come across and I've encountered one or two corked beers.

A: Pours a two finger dark khaki colour head of nice cream and thickness, and pretty good (~4+ minute) retention. Soft complexion. Light lacing as the head slowly recedes.

Body colour is an opaque (nontransparent and nontranslucent) solid dark black; not quite a jet black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Spot-on for the style, but not unique or special. Still, it's looking good. I'm starting to get a bit more confidence.

Sm: Chocolate, chocolate malt, white grapeskin, some generic woody notes but I wouldn't say oak, wine must, dark malts, a hint of vague lychee. The darker more conventional stout notes are up front whilst the wine-redolent notes are on the climax and finish - leaving me with the impression this is going to be structurally imbalanced and divisive. The notes don't feel cohesive and seamless, but rather opposing. Some cream. No coffee or roast. Some overly present hop character, including primarily floral hops. The out-of-place wine notes are unwelcome and supplant the imperial stout character. The barrel aging seems to overwhelm the base beer; this isn't seeming ideal at all. A mild strength aroma with a troublesome blatant lack of balance and subtlety. Nothing about the execution screams careful deliberate barrel aging. I'm skeptical of this.

T: Oh boy. She's imbalanced as hell. It's a warzone: overwhelmed traditional imperial stout notes - including chocolate malt, a bit of cream, and dark malts - struggle to fend off the pesky overbearing wine notes to no avail. By the start of the second act, the imperial stout notes have been defeated and only the wine notes remain, accompanied by an unwelcome untamed sweetness punctuated inappropriately by strangely artifical lychee notes. Nothing in terms of barrel or wood here; if you wanted refined oak you'll be disappointed. The wine notes grow a bit musty by the climax, evoking a raisiney caramel-ly vibe as the climax hands the baton to the lackluster finish. Aftertaste is all unwelcome sweetness that just plain doesn't belong in any beer of the style. Zero coffee, zero actual chocolate, zero roast. Some artificial grape juice. Syrupy.

I think I might be able to safely say this is a spectacular failure at an imperial stout; American Imperial Stout or Russian Imperial Stout style status notwithstanding.

Grows more and more raisin-y and a bit vinous as it warms. Whatever pinot noir the barrels previously contained was a poor wine.

Flavour duration is average. Flavour intensity is well below average for the style, but average overall.

Mf: Dries unnecessarily on the finish. Overcarbonated. Rugged. Smooth up front, but it coarsens as it goes, evoking a shriveled raisin-y character rather than whatever intricate smooth wine notes they unsuccessfully went for. Poor presence on the palate. Fails to facilitate the better flavours from the profile. Syrupy and thick - overly so for the lack of flavour diversity and depth.

Dr: Fails to hit the key elements of the style on a fundamental level. Frankly, I'm unsure what to give it. Partly because in spite of all its flaws, it's still damn drinkable for 10.2% ABV. I don't hate it, though I could certainly see where such a response would be justified. It requires an alteration of one's expectations; if you're expecting and in the mood for a good imperial stout, this will massively disappoint. Wouldn't recommend it to friends and I wouldn't get it again. I'll concede that it's a failure at what it's attempting to do, but if we consider it aside from its purported style, it's not a bad beer per se. I can see this beer being a love/hate brew for many. But at its current price point, I'd say it's worth the roll of the dice.

It may be the biggest waste of barrel aging I've ever come across.

C-

kojevergas, Jun 19, 2013
Photo of Lare453
2.68/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 1 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Bottle Into a riedel Shiraz glass

First of all, fuck this beer. After barely loosening the cage, the cork, cage attached, blew out of the bottle grazing my forehead. Then started foaming like an asshole all over my new floor.

A unbelievable amount of foam... I'm talking about foam like I've never seen before. Soapy foam sits on top, thick dish soap foam like what you get from sanitizing when you brew. Black in color...

S very sweet, musty, like a used barrel...

T musty, sweet beginning, ou definitely get a lot of the Pinot noir/red wine in the middle and ntp the end, the end also has a slight malt and roast. The aftertaste is dry red wine.

M thin and way over carbonated. Not great...

O the only thing this beer has going for it is that it is one of the few beers aged in red wine barrels that you actually get red wine in the flavor. Other than that I would not get it again...

Lare453, Nov 19, 2012
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Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels) from Moa Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 370 ratings.