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Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels) - Moa Brewing Company

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Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)

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BA SCORE
83
good

407 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 407
Reviews: 103
rAvg: 3.66
pDev: 16.39%
Wants: 5
Gots: 37 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Moa Brewing Company visit their website
New Zealand (Aotearoa)

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: KickbacksSteve on 01-14-2012)
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3.75/5  rDev +2.5%

CesarLopes, Jul 11, 2013
Photo of alltakn
4.5/5  rDev +23%

alltakn, Jul 04, 2013
Photo of BAS
3.88/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served from a corked bottle into a 10oz Pilsner tasting glass at 50F. Perhaps not coincidentally, I had a similar experience with this bottle as other's have had. I was skeptical of the quality of this beer when I purchased it because it is an import and does come in a green-glass bottle, which I have definitely not had good luck with in the past. The cork released extremely easily with a slight pop, as if it were greased, leaving a pool of mist hovering in the neck of the bottle. I was pleasantly surprised to find that there was no skunk to the scent of the mist or the cork.

A - Poured with medium vigor, it produced a nice tan head that held its ground for a few minutes. This beer is very dark, but not totally opaque, and slightly on the thick side. A great looking stout.

S - The scent was fresh but felt a bit sharp. Coffees, chocolates, and alcohol vapors equally present on the nose.

T - First reaction: Creamy. Chocolate forward followed by coffee, but not too strong on the coffee. A nicely balanced mocha aftertaste. Extremely good.

M - The alcohol and carbonation is slightly on the sharp and sour side, but not out of balance with the flavors. It coats the mouth just right, not too thick, not too thin, just about right. The alcohol burn with the well balanced mocha flavor was enjoyable.

O - I really enjoyed this one and would recommend it. I want compare it to other Pinot Noir barrel aged beers. I haven't tried enough of these yet to make any intelligent comparisons.

BAS, Jul 04, 2013
Photo of hoptualBrew
4.45/5  rDev +21.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Reviewed for what it is, obviously deviates from style somewhat.

Jet black with khaki mocha froth head, thin layer maintains. Good lacing, no sediment.

Nose is complex; bright tannic dark fruits, blackcurrant, coffee roast, oak, leather, tobacco. Really nice bouquet of an aroma.

Palate starts dark juicy fruit, bakers chocolate, bright acidity, mild oak and lengthens to dark chocolates, touch of vanilla, and sharp roast. Really complex and digging what some wine barrels can do to an imperial stout.

Full body, finishes slightly dry and pulling on the palate. Carbonation is right on target moving the beer along well.

For what they were trying to achieve with the aging in Pinot Noir barrels, I think they nailed it! Brings really complex oak, vinous tannic fruits to the style and it works.

hoptualBrew, Jul 04, 2013
Photo of WallingBrew
4.5/5  rDev +23%

WallingBrew, Jul 03, 2013
Photo of LoveStout
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%

LoveStout, Jul 01, 2013
Photo of Thomas_Picton
3.75/5  rDev +2.5%

Thomas_Picton, Jun 30, 2013
Photo of Benny3000
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%

Benny3000, Jun 29, 2013
Photo of tubeyes
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%

tubeyes, Jun 28, 2013
Photo of bmwats
3.83/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from 375 ml bottle into a snifter.

A: Very dark brown or black. Pours a 1 finger, foamy, brown head. Settles quickly leaving a smattering of foamy carbonation on the surface. Strong spider web lacing. Head renews fully with each pour.

S: Roasted espresso, dark chocolate, earthy malt grains, with some raisin and molasses. The raisin is a little strong and almost overbearing.

T: Charred malt grains. Bitter dark chocolate. A little cardboard, and a hint of heady, pungent sweetness.

M: Thick, hearty, and heavy. Syrupy feel. The wine-y flavor comes through as the finish approaches. Pungent, peaty aftertaste. Dry finish.

D: Sip and enjoy.

Atmosphere is really nice. Dark hue, decent head, and some strong lacing. Nose is dark roasted malt and espresso, accentuated with chocolate and wine grapes. Charred malt flavor with some bitter dark chocolate, and some heady slightly sweet wine character. Overall, this is a really good quaff.

bmwats, Jun 27, 2013
Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%

acurtis, Jun 22, 2013
Photo of superspak
3.15/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

375 ml bottle into snifter, best before 10/4/2014. Pours pitch black color with a 2 finger dense and fluffy khaki head with incredible retention, that reduces to a thick cap that lasts. Dense soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a ton of streaming carbonation retaining the head. Extremely carbonated, signs are pointing toward infection. Aromas of dark chocolate, apple, pear, cocoa, roasted malt, char, coffee, toast, raisin, red wine, oak, floral, an roasted earthiness. Ok aromas that are pleasant and balanced with roasted, fruity, and barrel notes; but are quite muted. Taste of dark chocolate, roasted malt, cocoa, coffee, char, apple, raisin, oak, pepper, floral, red wine, and roasted earthiness. Lingering notes of dark chocolate, roasted malt, light char, cocoa, coffee, oak, red wine, floral, and roasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Solid balance and complexity of roasted flavors with moderate fruitiness and barrel presence; and no cloying flavors after the finish. Flavor robustness is muted due to the carbonation. High carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a fairly creamy, chalky, and prickly mouthfeel that is ok. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small warming noticed after the finish. Overall, for being infected, this was an alright wine barrel aged stout. Pleasant balance of flavors; and pretty smooth to sip on even with the carbonation. Nothing offensive; I would like to try this without infection sometime.

superspak, Jun 20, 2013
Photo of Hellmeh
4/5  rDev +9.3%

Hellmeh, Jun 20, 2013
Photo of kojevergas
2.59/5  rDev -29.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

My second beer from this brewery. I didn't much care for the first. Expectations are above average; it sounds good and I'm in the mood for the style, but I'm suspicious of its current low (by beeradvocate standards) ratings. Self-identifies as an Imperial Stout; it doesn't specify that it's a Russian Imperial Stout. Cost was $5.99 at a nearby Whole Foods; I guess that alone should have set off warning bells - a barrel aged import from halfway across the Earth oughtn't to be so inexpensive. Imported by Moa USA - another red flag, as a quaint local kiwi craft brewery wouldn't have its own importing company stateside.

"Flavored ale." Aged in Pinot Noir Barrels. Bottle fermented and conditioned. 10.2% ABV confirmed.

12.7 fl oz dark green (ugh...) bottle with attractive text and symbols on the actual glass and a hood and wire cap (i.e. cage) over a cork served into a Mitchells of Lancaster flared stem-tulip in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.

Cork pops out with unnatural ease; that is the easiest cork to pop out I've ever come across and I've encountered one or two corked beers.

A: Pours a two finger dark khaki colour head of nice cream and thickness, and pretty good (~4+ minute) retention. Soft complexion. Light lacing as the head slowly recedes.

Body colour is an opaque (nontransparent and nontranslucent) solid dark black; not quite a jet black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Spot-on for the style, but not unique or special. Still, it's looking good. I'm starting to get a bit more confidence.

Sm: Chocolate, chocolate malt, white grapeskin, some generic woody notes but I wouldn't say oak, wine must, dark malts, a hint of vague lychee. The darker more conventional stout notes are up front whilst the wine-redolent notes are on the climax and finish - leaving me with the impression this is going to be structurally imbalanced and divisive. The notes don't feel cohesive and seamless, but rather opposing. Some cream. No coffee or roast. Some overly present hop character, including primarily floral hops. The out-of-place wine notes are unwelcome and supplant the imperial stout character. The barrel aging seems to overwhelm the base beer; this isn't seeming ideal at all. A mild strength aroma with a troublesome blatant lack of balance and subtlety. Nothing about the execution screams careful deliberate barrel aging. I'm skeptical of this.

T: Oh boy. She's imbalanced as hell. It's a warzone: overwhelmed traditional imperial stout notes - including chocolate malt, a bit of cream, and dark malts - struggle to fend off the pesky overbearing wine notes to no avail. By the start of the second act, the imperial stout notes have been defeated and only the wine notes remain, accompanied by an unwelcome untamed sweetness punctuated inappropriately by strangely artifical lychee notes. Nothing in terms of barrel or wood here; if you wanted refined oak you'll be disappointed. The wine notes grow a bit musty by the climax, evoking a raisiney caramel-ly vibe as the climax hands the baton to the lackluster finish. Aftertaste is all unwelcome sweetness that just plain doesn't belong in any beer of the style. Zero coffee, zero actual chocolate, zero roast. Some artificial grape juice. Syrupy.

I think I might be able to safely say this is a spectacular failure at an imperial stout; American Imperial Stout or Russian Imperial Stout style status notwithstanding.

Grows more and more raisin-y and a bit vinous as it warms. Whatever pinot noir the barrels previously contained was a poor wine.

Flavour duration is average. Flavour intensity is well below average for the style, but average overall.

Mf: Dries unnecessarily on the finish. Overcarbonated. Rugged. Smooth up front, but it coarsens as it goes, evoking a shriveled raisin-y character rather than whatever intricate smooth wine notes they unsuccessfully went for. Poor presence on the palate. Fails to facilitate the better flavours from the profile. Syrupy and thick - overly so for the lack of flavour diversity and depth.

Dr: Fails to hit the key elements of the style on a fundamental level. Frankly, I'm unsure what to give it. Partly because in spite of all its flaws, it's still damn drinkable for 10.2% ABV. I don't hate it, though I could certainly see where such a response would be justified. It requires an alteration of one's expectations; if you're expecting and in the mood for a good imperial stout, this will massively disappoint. Wouldn't recommend it to friends and I wouldn't get it again. I'll concede that it's a failure at what it's attempting to do, but if we consider it aside from its purported style, it's not a bad beer per se. I can see this beer being a love/hate brew for many. But at its current price point, I'd say it's worth the roll of the dice.

It may be the biggest waste of barrel aging I've ever come across.

C-

kojevergas, Jun 19, 2013
Photo of vickersspitfire
3.26/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours out a nice dark brown color, almost black and is topped off with a nice dark tan head that’s very bubbly. The bubbles are thick and creamy and there seems to be plenty of carbonation I this one. Mild chocolate aromas come through; fig and raisin are also detectable, light floral smells are also present. This one is very crisp and is rather light bodied for an imperial stout, it’s also pretty bitter there are some berry flavors that come through. It looks and smells good but this is not what I expected from this beer, not bad overall just not what I expected from a RIS.

vickersspitfire, Jun 19, 2013
Photo of marshmeli
2.5/5  rDev -31.7%

marshmeli, Jun 16, 2013
Photo of Pencible
4.1/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

A: This poured a nearly opaque black, with lots of tan head. The cork shot of the bottle before I even finished loosing the cage.
S: It smelled like bitter dark chocolate, with some astringent dark fruit and earthy oak and smoky coffee.
T: It tasted like rich dark chocolate and tart raspberries, like a fine truffle, with some licorice and smoky coffee and oak. It had a clean and lasting aftertaste that was bitter, tart, and a little sweet.
M: It was very thick with fine natural carbonation. Fantastic body.
D: This was a great beer. Nice unique take on barrel aging a stout that added a lot of delicate complexities. It took forever to pour, but it was worth the wait, with great scent and taste and perfect body. The finish wasn't super smooth, but the alcohol was decently hidden. So it wasn't difficult to drink, but it was better to sip. Not sure how it would age, but I really enjoyed it fresh. Recommended.

Pencible, Jun 16, 2013
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3/5  rDev -18%

drgonzo2k2, Jun 08, 2013
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3/5  rDev -18%

jjd315, Jun 07, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +2.5%

ygtbsm94, Jun 07, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev +2.5%

JeffTheJuice, Jun 04, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +23%

GrindFatherBob, Jun 03, 2013
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2/5  rDev -45.4%

Chugs13, Jun 03, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -4.4%

craftbeerasian, May 30, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +23%

chickencoop, May 29, 2013
Moa Imperial Stout (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels) from Moa Brewing Company
83 out of 100 based on 407 ratings.