1811 Pre-Prohibition Lager - Fort George Brewery + Public House

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1811 Pre-Prohibition Lager1811 Pre-Prohibition Lager

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79 Ratings
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Ratings: 79
Reviews: 35
rAvg: 3.65
pDev: 16.99%
Wants: 17
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Fort George Brewery + Public House visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
American Adjunct Lager |  5.10% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
Ingredients (label):
"2 row malted barley, cracked maize, domestic Saaz, Centennial hops, and Astoria slow-sand filtered water. No filters, finings or clarifiers."

(Beer added by: chumba526 on 02-06-2011)
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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.7/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Can I brought to share at drewone's tasting.

Canned 4/2/13.

Pours a murky yellow with a foamy off-white head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, and grassy aromas. Taste is much the same with grassy and hay flavors on the finish. There is a medium amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is tasty and easy to drink.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.38/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a can at SAVOR 2011 and served in a SAVOR goblet.

THe pour brings forward a sparkling yellow brew with an average fizzy white head. Fair retention and an average amount of lacing. The nose brings some light grainy malt. The malt is accompanied by a light floral-hop character. The flavor balances between the two. There's a light grainy taste at the beginning followed by a slight amount of chewy bread. The floral hops finish things off and lead to a bitter and dry finish, that's unfortunately also a bit astringent. Light body with fizzy carbonation. Pretty decent stuff, especially considering the style.

Photo of Kegatron
3.88/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

16 oz can from the brewpub into a pint glass.

Pours a crystal clear copper, with a billowy head of white foam (that may have a touch of dirty look to it). This was a fairly foamy pour right off the bat but this does settle down pretty quickly, retaining with a frothy ¾ finger that leaves back a rich and sudsy looking cascade of lacing. The aroma smells fresh and leafy, with some spiciness to the nose that works itself in as well. This sits on top of a sweet combo of fruity flavors and lightly toasted malt character. That combo of fruit, spice, and malt is really making the nose work here.

The taste is a crisp feeling toasted sweetness, which is both firm and supportive feeling underneath a layer of spice and citric bitterness that does have a touch of aggressive to it. The overall profile is fairly smooth here on the palate, with clean and strong flavors here that finish this dry and spicy with a bit of lingering leafy bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a smooth crispness that is coming off as really easy feeling in the mouth. There is just enough sharpness to the carbonation to nicely help open up those hop flavors some.

I was a bit shocked at just how flavorful and easy drinking this ended up being for the style. This seemed like it was a bit more hopped than you would have thought but in this case, the extra fruit flavors and overall crisp oomph that they added to this really helped put this over the edge for me. This was a really pleasant surprise.

Photo of drabmuh
3.53/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer is fine for what it is but it's not special. Beer is yellow and clear wtih moderate head retention and carbonation, no lacing.

Aroma is grainy and sweet with a nice yeasty breadiness to it.

Beer is light in body and has some hoppiness / bitterness to the end, unfortunately it doesn't cover up the slight grain acidity and aftertaste this beer has, overall it is fine but not great.

Photo of mactrail
4.21/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Clear pale golden color. Rich and tangy flavor with an appealing hoppy burn. Light body plus a sudsy mouthfeel. Lovely grainy aromas with a flowery nose.

I would say this tastes more like a hoppy Pilsener than any typical lager, but that's a good thing. I don't know what kind of hops they use, but it's an appealing resiny sting with some piney aromas. The mellow corn flavor is a revelation; maybe it's just a matter of brewing with enough grain to end up with this much flavor.

A big surprise at how good this is. I rate it among the best lagers I've had. Another outstanding brew from Ft. George. From the 16 oz can purchased at Bottleworks in Seattle.

Photo of stakem
3.33/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Big thanks to Kegatron for giving me a pint of this after his recent trip out west. Much appreciated my friend!

Poured into a pint glass, this brew appears a very hazed golden color with 2 fingers worth of yellowish stained head. The cap recedes slowly leaving patches and finger patterns of lace all over the glass. The head maintains with nearly a finger's strength throughout the duration from the constantly rising bubbles of carbonation.

The smell of this brew initially is strikingly hoppy which really caught me off guard. It displays a scent of citrus, fruit, grass, rinds and pulp. Once you go beyond the hop character in the aroma there is a stinky aspect of something reminiscent of pilsner malt. There is a smell included almost like stinky feet and cheese mixed with sulfur.

The taste includes as much initial hop character as the aroma led on. A citrus hop bite hits the tongue first and gives way to a fruity and rind flavoring that increases with bitterness that is herbal. The bitterness brings on more of a focus on grass character that gets increasingly more vegetative as more sips are taken. There is some sulfur present as well as a light mineral feel throughout this. At times there is a mild sweetness but it gets quickly forgotten due to the overall bitter aspect of this. It displays a long lingering herbal grassy character inside the mouth long after each sip is taken.

This is a medium to light bodied brew with a modest level of carbonation. The first couple of sniffs and sips of this brew was a bit shocking but as the experience continued it got increasingly more familiar in an american adjunct kind of way. I wish I would have served this colder, perhaps that would have maintained the initial more pleasing aspects of this brew a little longer. However, when a brewery releases a beer that is their interpretation of a historical style, I am always a little awkward about reviewing it because it is so open to interpretation. For example, for a lager this brew really lacked the crispness to the finish and ease or cleanliness of drink-ability. It did display it's own unique character throughout though. I greatly enjoyed the opportunity to give this a try and would take it as a substitute any day for the typical american adjunct offering.

Photo of woodychandler
4.5/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Many thanks to msbulldog25 to sending this along in support of The CANQuest (TM)!

From the CAN: "Official Bicentennial Beer of Astoria"; "Two centuries ago, on the site of what is now the Fort George Brewery block, fur magnate John Jacob Astor's expedition boldly built a trading post they called Astoria - the first settlement west of the Rocky Mountains. Today, we're proud to craft the Official Bicentennial Beer of Astoria."; "Many West Coast brewers in the 19th century had no ice, so they improvised an effervescent beer by brewing lager yeasts at higher-than-normal temperatures. Described as a 'refreshing drink, much consumed by the laboring classes,' it's the inspiration for 1811 lager."; "More flavorful than most modern lagers, and fermented at warmer temperatures, 1811 is lovingly concocted from 2 row malted barley and cracked maize: corn was a popular beer ingredient in pre-Prohibition days. 1811's hop character gives it a distinctive Northwest style worthy of Astoria's 200-year history."; and "Lewis and Clark spend first winter at Fort Clatsop - 1805, John Jacob Astor's Pacific Fur Company founds Astoria and its Fort - 1811, Fort and fur trade sold to British, renamed after King George III - 1813, Fort is returned to US posession -1818, Oregon Trail populates Astoria - 1840s, Oregon Territory votes to prohibit alcoholic beverages - 1844, British end occupation of Oregon Territory - 1846, First US post office west of the Rockies starts service in Astoria - 1847, Oregon territorial legislature repeals state prohibition law - 1849, Town of Astoria officially incorporated in State of Oregon - 1856, Astoria Brewery opens for business - 1872, Columbia Brewery opens - 1875, St. Louis Brewery opens - 1870s, J. T. Borchers manufactures bottled beer, opens Caviar Saloon - 1881, Hanson Brewery & Henry P. Soda Works open - 1883, Downtown Astoria devastated by fire - 1883, John Kopp starts North Pacific Brewering company near 34th & Grand - 1884, Gambrinus Beer opens - 1893, Kopp builds new brewery (now Uppertown Fire Fighters Museum) - 1896, Crown Bottling Works in operation - 1896, Cannery business booms - 1910s, Clatsop remains Oregon's last 'wet' county by narrow vote - 1914, Alcohol prohibited statewide - 1916, Prohibition starts throughout USA - 1919, Another fire destroys downtown Astoria - 1922, Astoria column built to commemorate town's history - 1926, Astoria-Megler Bridge opens, completing Highway 101 along entire Pacific coast - 1966, First annual performance of the musical 'Shanghaied in Astoria' - 1982, 'The Goonies' filmed in Astoria - 1984, First Fisher Poets Gathering - 1996, Pacific Rim Brewing Company fouded in Wet Dog Cafe - 1997, Fort George Brewery & Public House is founded - 2007, Astoria Bicentennial - 2011".

The Crack & Glug produced a thick two-finger cap of eggshell-white head with good retention. Color was a cloudy orangish-yellow, like fresh-squeezed grapefruit juice. Nose had an interesting mustiness to accompany the bitter hoppiness that was prevalent. Mouthfeel was medium-to-full with an unexpected pine hoppiness on the tongue. Wow! If only all AALs were so hoppy, I would be a very happy CANQuester ... Finish was more like an AmeriCAN Pale Ale than a lager of any stripe. You CAN absolutely believe that I would not hesitate to put some of this in my cooler!

Photo of LXIXME
2.89/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A medium sized white to slightly off white head settles into a nice lacing above a cloudy thick well carbonated straw golden colored beer.

A very light aroma on this beer about all I can sense is some light sweet attributes, maybe from some lightly roasted grain malts.

A light taste, like washed out light grains that would seem to have been very lightly roasted, yet has a noticeable dry bitterness to the taste.

The dryness and bitterness from the taste are more pronounced in the aftertaste which is drying and without much taste on this lighter bodied beer.

Very light in taste, this would make the ideal beer pong beer, no bad tastes coming through like all the beers that come in 30 packs, yet its taste is very subdued so about anybody can drink it.

Photo of barleywinefiend
3.48/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a honey yellow color with good carbonation and a nice white cap, bubbles and some lacing

S: Some grains, grass and light bitterness on the nose

T: Some bittering hops, with grains, tad bit of grass and floral notes, hint of honey and light bread

M: Light to medium body, well carbonated

O: Not to shabby, tasty, easy to drink

Photo of rab53
4/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of beertunes
4.1/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured into 10oz pilsener glass. Poured a hazy yellow color with 1/4 inch of white head that had OK retention and light lacing.

The aroma was a neutrally balanced blend of gentle grains, a slight sweetness, and just a tickle of hops. The flavors were mostly the same, a good grain base, gentle hops on the front and middle of the tongue, some tangy hops at the back, and just a light bit of sweetness. Overall, a very nice blend of flavors.

The body was very good, full while being smooth, clean and light. Drinkability was excellent, this could easily be an all-day drinker or the perfect lawnmower beer. Overall, a very nice beer. A must try. a great take on the style, and the beer a lot of other try to be. For example, after I finished this beer, I had a bottle of Full sail session that was in the fridge. Poured it into the same glass. The 1811 is beer Session wants to be when it grows up. If your in the mood for this style, I can't see doing much better than this beer. Worth seeking out or trading for.

Photo of flagmantho
3.43/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 16oz can into a pint glass.

Appearance: nice golden hue with a hint of haze and a nice effervescence. Head pours two good fingers of pillowy ivory foam.

Smell: light malt aroma with a hint of corn and a hint of noble-character hops. Not bad, but the corn really doesn't do it for me.

Taste: light malt with a hint of that corn and a decent hop flavor. Nice noble character with a good level of bitterness, especially for the style. Actually not too bad at all.

Mouthfeel: medium-light body with a low level of carbonation. Decent, but not very interesting.

Overall: actually a pretty tasty beer for the style. I feel like a little less attenuation and a little less corn aroma would help this beer a lot.

Photo of tone77
3.53/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to the legendary woodychandler for providing this beer. Poured from a 16 oz. can. Has a cloudy golden color with a 1 inch head. Smell is of hops, some corn. Taste is very hoppy for a lager, some grains are present, as is bitterness at the finish. Feels medium bodied in the mouth and overall I was surprised to get this taste from an AAL, but I'll take it.

Photo of Cyberkedi
3.85/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a clear straw yellow - not inspiring, but at least the thick, fluffy white head is fairly persistent and leaves a little lacing. Aroma is malty, crisp and just a little fruity. Flavor is malty with a slightly sweet fruity underpinning and a little sharp and bitter tinniness; however, the flavor is mostly pleasant so I was able to get used to the less than pleasing component. Texture is thick, smooth and fairly fizzy. Finish is less bitter and more fruity. Maybe not the best I've had, but still worthy.

Photo of Kurmaraja
3.75/5  rDev +2.7%

Photo of twelveinches
4/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of Reidrover
3.98/5  rDev +9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

16 oz can from "Lifesource" ,Salem. $1.99 Bright hazy sunlight yellow beer with a small white head. Fine hay/biscuit aromas..touch nutty maybe. Taste is semi sweet malts, well balanced citus zest hops and a ale fruitiness. OK on the palate..quite thick for style. Overall a very tasty drinkable beer. I have one quibble with the "style" this is under. To me the brewers description makes this a "Steam Beer".

Photo of jera1350
3.5/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of msubulldog25
4.28/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Freshly released 16 oz. cans began hitting local shelves in mid-March 2011 - just in time to celebrate the bicentennial of Oregon's (and the West's) first established trading outpost, what has now become the town of Astoria. Poured to a pint glass.

In fact, the label notes 'This beer has been approved by the Astoria Bicentennial Committee' and as such is the 'Official' beer of the year-long celebration. The periwinkle blue and silver can is ringed by a timeline of notable dates in local history, everything from tragedies (fires, Prohibition, etc) and triumphs (brewery and cannery foundings) to the most important date of all (that being 1984, the year 'The Goonies' was filmed... no, really, it's a big deal!). All in all, I spent a good 10 minutes studying this textbook of a can. Cool.

A: Pours golden, but deeper and richer than most lagers - thanks to the 'Pre-Prohibition' roughness. No fining agents means, that a very light haze hangs suspended around a relatively scarce amount of wriggling bubbles. OK, look I guess, certainly nothing like your standard 'crystal clear' adjunct lager. Head is pretty awe-inspiring, a 2-finger+ pile of tight cream, driven-snow white and sticking in goopy webs. Lasting retention, dwindles over several minutes.

S: The can sat a while out of the fridge before opening, then the pint glass sat a few more while I pored over the label copy... therefore I expected the aroma to really open up and shine. Well it sorta did: Germanic hop aromas of spice and domestic ones of lemony citrus

T: Stunning flavor, don't expect boring 'macro' lager here. Saaz and Centennials sparkle with freshness, offering big-time spice and vibrant grassy herbalness, with softened honey, biscuit and flower notes in the finish. Dry, crackery malt, saltines then a dusting of lemon-pepper. Think Bohemian pilsner in feel; APA in flavor. Excellent depth.

M: Crisp yet smooth all at once, would be even more refreshing if only for a lighter body! Yes, I said I actually WANT a lighter body to make an adjunct lager more refreshing. Carbonation is a little subdued, but the bright, and somewhat oily, and a maltiness that offers some lip-smacking chewiness more than compensate. My mouth won't stop watering!

O: Having just appeared on shelves, this is about as fresh as it'll get, and is such flavor-filled and quite drinkable. Really, it's a pretty stunning example of what lagers of the style can be (and may have once frequently been). Big hops and a slight off-balance make this a little less drinkable for me (key word: little), but that reflects my palate rather than whatever consensus will be reached by the general public. Otherwise, completely enjoyable, start to finish. A touch over 5% abv, makes it 'sessionable', too.

A winner by Fort George, a fitting tribute to their historic hometown and a beer I hope will be accepted and will continue for years beyond the bicentennial.

Photo of harrymel
4/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Can date: unk

A: pours a yellow ale with a single finger of egg white foam, which dissipates to a solid sheet of the same. The lager has excellent clarity. lace rings.

S: Grain, sweet bread, light hops, grass, some soil and a good pils quality. Nice.

T: Grainy, smooth, lightly bitter with some nice sweet tones and a good czech like water profile. I like the flavor and would call this pilsner in a second. And a good one at that.

M: Light body, moderate carb and a smooth finish. Well done.

O: Previously really disappointed with this one, now really happy with it. Totally dig it actually. Happy this is now available in the area.

Photo of shelby415
3.5/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of CoryR
3.5/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of Kopfschuss
4/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of thufflife
3.25/5  rDev -11%

Photo of zeledonia
2.25/5  rDev -38.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Tasted 11 July 2012, reviewed from notes. Can dated 04/03, which I think means bottled 3 April 2012.

This is a stunning lager. Pours a medium golden yellow, pretty clear. Huge white head, dense, pillowy, and cratering. Great retention, and tons of lacing. Pretty.

Smell is dull - lager yeast and bland noble hops. Has that slightly corny smell that many lagers have.

This is bad. What went wrong? It's like the beers being mocked in those old Keystone Light "bitter beer face" ads. Bitter, but in a bad way. Doesn't feel like hop bitterness, instead it's astringent and unpleasant. I really do not like this.

Mouthfeel is fine. Medium-bodied, a little heavier than I expected. Lasting finish, which is carrying that foul taste throughout my mouth.

There aren't many beers that actually taste bad to me. But this is one of them. I might just have to try it again, to confirm this experience (I'm a glutton for punishment).

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1811 Pre-Prohibition Lager from Fort George Brewery + Public House
83 out of 100 based on 79 ratings.